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plasmabeam
03/12/23 12:04:02 PM
#202:


fortybelowsummer posted...
I'll join you on that guess since I want to shoot for a 2500 and it seems possible

Yeah, I wavered between adding that and Life of Brian to the oddsboard. Good luck, friends.

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Inviso
03/12/23 12:09:13 PM
#203:


I'll switch over to National Lampoon as well.

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BetrayedTangy
03/12/23 3:22:15 PM
#204:


19. Modern Times (1936)
Directed by Charlie Chaplin
Score: 171

Mythiot: 1
John: 5
Poke: 14
Suprak: 14
Plasma: 17
Tangy: 20
Karo: 22
Forty: 23
Gavs: 25
Vis: 30

1. Mythiot
Charlie Chaplains swan song as his signature character of the Tramp and really for silent film as whole isnt just his best work, its one of the best films ever made, flawlessly combining perfect physical comedy with a bittersweet story and scathing social critique. The first half of film portrays work in the modern world as miserable and dehumanizing, forcing humans to practically become machines, the Tramp unable to stop his programmed repetitive motions even after the work stops, the higher ups even try to automate the simple human act of eating. The Tramp even prefers the security of prison after being thrown in there after being mistaken for a revolutionary leader. But soon enough, he befriends a poor young woman and they try to find employment again only for the police to thwart any successes they have because of their pasts as vagrants. You cant help but root for the Tramp as he stumbles from one predicament to the next, completely befuddled along the way. Also, he accidently gets high on cocaine at one point, never thought youd see that in a (mostly) silent film, did you?

5. John
I will forever love the way Chaplin can go full on anti-capitalism and do so via goofy slapstick.

17. Plasma
Mr. Mime and Barefoot Babe star in this pseudo-silent comedy about embracing and avoiding jail time during the Depression era. Though Modern Times is undoubtedly amusing, its not the Yeah, Id love to watch 86 minutes of this! type of amusing. I found myself checking the clock before I was even ten minutes in, and although this is a great example of visual storytelling, the comedy never hit the mark for me.

That said, I will admit it does an incredible job of making me care about characters without any proper dialogue. I love the films dream-like quality, and Mr. Mime and Barefoot Babe nail the emotional beats no matter what home or workplace setting theyre in (not surprising, considering they were married in real life). C-

20. Tangy
I like Chaplin well enough and the satirization of the work-centric society is incredibly clever, but my main issue with Modern Times is that all the best bits happen in the first part of the movie and it just kinda goes downhill from there. The toy store sequence goes on for way too long and while I do like that the restaurant scene satirizes talkies as a whole, I was just so exhausted with the slapstick, I just didnt care enough to find it fun. Chaplin has certainly earned his place in history, but I find it difficult to consider his films to be some of my favorites.

Biggest Laugh: The food machine for sure.

22. Karo
So this is the misadventures of Adolf Hitler and his struggles to find work in America during the great depression. Basically he goes to some new place, is an incompetent idiot so he gets fired almost immediately, then sulks about his lot in life.
It was more funny than I expected it to be but man this is... vintage. The kind of physical comedy the film engages in may be timeless, but I was left wanting something a little more.
Oddly enough it seems to have an identity crisis that sticks it halfway between a silent movie and a talkie. I mean I can understand the artistic decision in making a silent movie far past the heyday of silent cinema, but then why do you put in random talking everywhere? Doesnt that defeat the whole point?
Anyway, it is old. Old and unfortunately quite forgettable.

23. Forty
Buck up never say die. Well get along. I had only seen clips of Charlie Chaplin before, never a full film. It was mostly a joy watching him bumble from one slapstick scene to the next, although the zany music with no dialogue and all the schtick wore a little thin by the end. That isnt to say this isnt overall brilliant comedy though. There were some genuinely hilarious moments, like the malfunctioning feeding machine and the accidental smuggled jail cocaine ingestion. Chaplin is pretty incredible, a unique comedic force whose physical performances are second to none. Ive never seen finer drunken roller skating. Amongst all the wackiness theres a nice message about keeping your head up and not letting the man keep you down in a world where we can sometimes feel like just cogs in a machine.

25. Gavs
Way to not future-proof your title Charlie! Did you not consider that the modern times depicted would move further and further away from modern as time went on? Probably not. To be fair, films were a lot less permanent back then, partly because the medium wasnt yet old enough for the thought of viewers wanting to go back to old films and watch them again years later to have become commonplace. Storage of film reels was expensive and took up lots of space, so it wasnt uncommon for reels of old films to be overwritten for a new film. The reels were also fragile and prone to degradation or spontaneous combustion depending on the conditions they were kept in.

I digress, so I guess I should end the history lesson and talk about the film. Of the two 1930s films, I preferred Duck Soup to this one, because I thought the story was too thin, serving more as a throughline for the comedy skits. I thought the themes bounced around a bit too. At first, the suggestion is that the factory workers are portrayed like cattle or mindless drones, while the elite are lazy, greedy and easily distracted by their shiny new toys, meddling with things for the sake of it despite the machines being impractical and inferior to just leaving things as they are. Skynet is a while off yet! This angle is dropped for the most part once Charlie leaves the factory and goes to prison, growing increasingly desperate to stay there. You could interpret this as either Charlie being institutionalised, or him wanting to stay in prison because the security of a roof over his head and guaranteed meals is preferable to the uncertainty of trying to find work during the Great Depression. From there, the film switches gears again to Charlie and his new girlfriend trying to hold down jobs and a home, though this theme isnt dwelled upon as much as the earlier ones.

The slapstick here didnt work for me as well as in Duck Soup, because here most of the comedy was in that vein. As a result, it didnt feel as fresh, and it couldnt vary things as much as Duck Soup due to this film being mostly silent, thus preventing any spoken jokes or wordplay. I did like Charlies song and dance at the end though. He do be shmoving there! The song was the first time Charlie Chaplins Tramp character spoke, so its a fitting finale for a character who hailed from the silent film era. Had I known that context before watching the film, it would have likely been more impactful for me than it was already.

30. Vis
Spoiler alert, but I feel bad for these first few movies on the list, because theyre very slapstick heavy, and thats just naturally harder for my modern (hey, a reference to the title) sensibilities to appreciate. And unfortunately, unlike Metropolis (which I enjoyed because I had English subtitles), I think comedy is harder to process in a silent format. For me, it just vacuumed up all of the energy that the movie was trying to showcase. I will say though, the theme of the film is still relevant to this day: were living in this workplace culture that makes us miserable, and people fail upward despite being fuck-upsbut at the end of the day, whats best for us is following our dreams and just doing what were best at, instead of being cogs in a machine.

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Johnbobb
03/12/23 3:24:47 PM
#205:


Oh what the hell

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fortybelowsummer
03/12/23 3:26:53 PM
#206:


A 30 and a 1 woooow. Has that ever happened before?

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BetrayedTangy
03/12/23 3:27:37 PM
#207:


Outlier Ranking

Mythiot: 111
Suprak: 100
GavsEvans: 84
Plasma: 79
Vis: 76
John: 65
Karo: 64
forty: 62
Poke: 61
Tangy: 41

Suprak and Mythiot trade yet again and John takes a huge leap forward. I'm still comfortably sitting at the the bottom, but I'm not expecting that too last too terribly long...

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v_charon
03/12/23 3:32:35 PM
#208:


fortybelowsummer posted...
A 30 and a 1 woooow. Has that ever happened before?


Classic Inviso stuff.

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Natalie
03/12/23 4:30:28 PM
#209:


Kind of shocked you guys are so harsh on Modern Times. Yeah, there's slapstick stuff in there, but Chaplin was a master of turning that into a physical art rather than simply an act of violence; I think Jackie Chan is one of the best comparisons. The vision he employs in the conception of the machinery, the full body movements the Tramp throws himself into with equal parts grace and oafishness, it all contributes to and offsets a surprisingly sharp backdrop of labour protests and the costs of capitalism in a post-Industrial Revolution age. I say this as someone who's not real big on silent film and found The Cameraman a little limp, I feel like Chaplin's silent work plays to the format's absurd strengths rather than feeling limited by its shortcomings.
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GavsEvans123
03/12/23 4:40:55 PM
#210:


Enchanted has been on the board for a while and nobody's guessed it yet, so I'll go for that.

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Pokewars
03/12/23 4:52:14 PM
#211:


Guess sticking with Popstar.

Modern Times was a treat. Chaplin is a master of physical comedy. The story still resonates with..... gasp...modern times! Sometimes older stuff can miss for me but not when it comes to Chaplin.

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plasmabeam
03/12/23 5:06:26 PM
#212:


fortybelowsummer posted...
A 30 and a 1 woooow. Has that ever happened before?

Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels. I gave it a 30. Somebody else gave it a 1.

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plasmabeam
03/12/23 5:10:28 PM
#213:


HOUSE WINS BABY!!! Everybody hopped on the Christmas Vacation bandwagon and missed out on Modern Times.

VEGAS ODDS ON #18:

+600 Zoolander
+600 Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping
+800 Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
+1000 Enchanted
+1000 Black Dynamite
+1250 This is Spinal Tap
+1250 National Lampoons Christmas Vacation
+1250 Borat
+1500 Monty Pythons The Life of Brian

+200 Any other movie (+2500 if guessed correctly)

Leaderboard:
1) Poke $2850 (+500 Mystery Men, +500 The Freshman, +1250 The Interview, +600 Duck Soup)
2) Mega $1750 (+500 The Freshman, +1250 The Interview)
3) Inviso $850 (+850 Not Another Teen Movie)
3) Johnbobb $850 (+850 Spaceballs)
4) Forty $600 (+600 Duck Soup)
5) Suprak $500 (+500 Mystery Men)
5) Gavs $500 (+500 Mystery Men)

The House Won On:
  • Stripes (+1000 odds)
  • Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein (+500 odds)
  • Beverly Hills Cop (+1000 odds)
  • Return of the Living Dead (Unlisted; +2500 odds)
  • Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (Unlisted; +2500 odds)
  • Modern Times (+700 odds)



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Pokewars
03/12/23 5:17:00 PM
#214:


plasmabeam posted...
Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels. I gave it a 30. Somebody else gave it a 1.

Me! >:|

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fortybelowsummer
03/12/23 5:57:25 PM
#215:


plasmabeam posted...
Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels. I gave it a 30. Somebody else gave it a 1.

Interesting. That makes sense

I'll go back to Popstar

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Johnbobb
03/12/23 6:42:33 PM
#216:


keeping it on christmas

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Blaziken
03/12/23 10:04:34 PM
#217:


Sticking with National Lampoon (Inviso, btw)

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Mythiot
03/12/23 10:14:59 PM
#218:


Well that stinks, I knew Modern Times wasn't going to win, but I was hoping it'd get in the top half at least.

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BetrayedTangy
03/13/23 6:25:38 PM
#219:


18. This is Spinal Tap (1984)
Directed by Rob Reiner
Score: 164 (Tie)

Forty: 2
Suprak: 4
Mythiot: 7
John: 16
Tangy: 17
Poke: 19
GavsEvans: 22
Vis: 22
Karo: 26
Plasma: 29

2. Forty
Weve got armadillos in our trousers. Its really quite frightening. When I was younger I saw bits and pieces of Spinal Tap and thought they were a real band. I might have just been dumb, but I think thats just how good of a mockumentary this is. They look like rockstars, act like rockstars, and the music is pretty darn good. Even when I was a bit older and sat down and watched it for the first time, it was almost indistinguishable from the real thing. I love classic rock bands and British humor so its one of my favorite movies ever. God, whats my favorite scene? I would say Nigel with the mini bread but of course theres the amp that goes to 11, the Stonehenge debacle, walking around lost backstage
There are some good funny movies out there about the music business (Almost Famous, Blues Brothers, Airheads etc.) but Spinal Tap stands alone for me and comes in at numero dos.

7. Mythiot
Theres a fine line between stupid and clever, and inventing the mockumentary is well into the clever side of the fence. Michael McKean, Christopher Guest, Harry Shearer, and a number of ill-fated drummers are Spinal Tap, a formerly popular rock band known for hendecamally loud and anatomically minded music on tour attempting to promote their newest album. You could listen to these lovably stupid musicians talk to the camera for hours and the songs could actually pass for the big bottomiest of butt-rock that was popular during the 80s. Some of the funniest bits come from the drama around the album cover as well as anytime theres a mishap on stage.

16. John
Gonna mark this one down as most improved of anything on this list, because the first time I watched This is Spinal Tap back in high school, I didn't care for it all. It was particularly disappointing at the time because everyone seemed to hype this up as like the funniest movie of all time, and it just didn't even slightly live up to that hype. Now, years later, I still think it gets overhyped at times, but I something about the humor clicks with me much more than it did way back when. It's a weird area where it's so dryly unfunny that it somehow becomes funny again.

17. Tangy
If it wasnt for Christopher Guests performance of Nigel Tufnel, this movie would be an easy bottom 5 for me. The concept is cool and I have a ton of respect for the attention to detail when it comes to the lore of the band, but dear god does it move at a dreadful pace. Thankfully theres plenty of Nigel scenes to break up the monotony and I cant get enough of him. Everything from the iconic amps labeled up to 11 to him slowly understanding why the album cover could be considered sexist is absolutely hilarious and Im so grateful for all of his appearances outside of the film as well.

https://youtu.be/B1n_WF-76dU

Biggest Laugh: Nigels catering catastrophe

22. Gavs
The most famous mockumentary ever made, This is Spinal Tap charts the rise, fall and rebirth of the eponymous band for a retrospective documentary. Highlights of their career include the controversy over the Black Album cover art, an underwhelming Stonehenge stage prop, and the high turnover rate of the bands seemingly cursed drummers.

What I most admire about this film is its total commitment to the bit. At no point is there any indication that Spinal Tap is not a real band, which enhances the satire. This even continued after the films release, with the bands appearance on The Simpsons treating them like any of the other celebrities to appear on the show over the years. Admire is a good word here, as I feel like I respected this film more than I enjoyed it. I did have a few chuckles but no big laughs. I dont regret watching this film, but it might not be one I will go back to. That said, I did briefly consider ranking this number 11 anyway for the joke.

Fun fact: JK Rowling said that Spinal Taps drummers were her inspiration for the Defence Against the Dark Arts teachers at Hogwarts being replaced every year. I wonder if there was one who choked on someone elses vomit. Ill go check on Pottermore and report back.

22. Vis
This isnt the funniest, or the most exciting movie Ive watch (especially on a comedy list), but theres something about just how seriously it takes itself, and how seriously it takes the subject matter. There ARE jokes, but theyre played completely straight by these absurd rock star caricatures who you can BELIEVE legitimately would act this way in real life. Nothing in this movie, aside from maybe the racier lyrics (and playing them at a U.S. Military base), comes across as unbelievable, and I think thats what makes the movie work. Its able to pick up some rock cliches and amp them up to eleven without taking the audience out of the documentary narrative structure. The running gags of drummers constantly dying (to the point where new drummers take notice and are relatively unconcerned), and the band randomly going through EVERY style of rock and roll from the 60s onward, are funny. This just ultimately wasnt a laugh out loud movie, so I cant rank it higher than this.

26. Karo
So this is a fake behind the scenes documentary of a fake band on a fake tour in many fake musical venues.
Unfortunately unlike a similar movie on the list this one is an incredibly boring affair that is light on the humor and very heavy on the british dudes mumbling.
It follows the band around as they travel from city to city, stopping every now and then to sing a really bad rock song at a concert because that is supposed to be funny or something. Then all these unlikeable and unexpressive guys with bad haircuts bluh out some points about band management which I guess is also supposed to be funny.
It's (assumedly) not as bad as having a real spinal tap, but its is still not a pleasant experience.

29. Plasma
I cant believe how bored I was while watching Spinal Tap. Though I love classic rock/metal, I absolutely hated this movie.

My biggest problem is that the band is this weird amalgamation of every British rock group from 1960-1980. I get that the writers are satirizing a variety of different acts, but the band itself feels painfully uninspired and every character is a walking sleep-aid. Heres the thing: if I want to hear hilarious, outrageous anecdotes about a rock group, all I have to do is look up real-life interviews. F

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BetrayedTangy
03/13/23 6:30:00 PM
#220:


Outlier Ranking

Mythiot: 122
Suprak: 114
Plasma: 90
GavsEvans: 88
Vis: 80
forty: 78
Karo: 72
John: 67
Poke: 63
Tangy: 42

Mythiot manages to hold off Suprak from 1st, we also get some jumps for Plasma and forty.

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Inviso
03/13/23 6:37:17 PM
#221:


I didn't mention this in my write-up, but having seen Waiting for Guffman and Best in Show...Spinal Tap just isn't as funny.

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plasmabeam
03/13/23 7:20:24 PM
#222:


HOUSE WINS AGAIN!! Everyone bet Popstar, only to lose on the other band-focused satire.

VEGAS ODDS ON #17:

+600 Zoolander
+600 Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping
+800 Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
+1000 Enchanted
+1000 Black Dynamite
+1250 National Lampoons Christmas Vacation
+1250 Borat
+1500 Monty Pythons The Life of Brian
+1500 Team America: World Police

+200 Any other movie (+2500 if guessed correctly)

Leaderboard:
1) Poke $2850 (+500 Mystery Men, +500 The Freshman, +1250 The Interview, +600 Duck Soup)
2) Mega $1750 (+500 The Freshman, +1250 The Interview)
3) Inviso $850 (+850 Not Another Teen Movie)
3) Johnbobb $850 (+850 Spaceballs)
4) Forty $600 (+600 Duck Soup)
5) Suprak $500 (+500 Mystery Men)
5) Gavs $500 (+500 Mystery Men)

The House Won On:
  • Stripes (+1000 odds)
  • Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein (+500 odds)
  • Beverly Hills Cop (+1000 odds)
  • Return of the Living Dead (Unlisted; +2500 odds)
  • Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (Unlisted; +2500 odds)
  • Modern Times (+700 odds)
  • This is Spinal Tap (+1250 odds)



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plasmabeam
03/13/23 7:21:02 PM
#223:


BetrayedTangy posted...
18. This is Spinal Tap (1984)

Suprak: 4
Plasma: 29

Counter-punch.

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jcgamer107
03/13/23 9:20:32 PM
#224:


Spinal Tap is fantastic and basically created a genre, too low

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Pokewars
03/13/23 9:26:53 PM
#225:


Spinal Tap is something that I really want to enjoy, and by all available metrics I should, but it's not quite there. It's not bad, but I didn't have a strong love for it.

Keep guessing Popstar.

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Johnbobb
03/13/23 9:45:51 PM
#226:


if anything this makes me think National Lampoon even more

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GavsEvans123
03/14/23 3:47:45 PM
#227:


This was one I wasn't expecting to go out quite yet, and ahead of Popstar too!

Speaking of which, Black Dynamite next

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Espeon
03/14/23 3:50:09 PM
#228:


Still guessing Christmas Vacation.

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Mythiot
03/14/23 4:00:02 PM
#229:


The mockumentary would evolve past Spinal Tap, but it's still a crime for it to be this low.

Sticking with Popstar, and boy is my write-up for it going to be awkward now.
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BetrayedTangy
03/14/23 10:21:44 PM
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17. Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping (2016)
Directed by Akiva Schaffer and Jorma Taccone
Score: 164 (Tie)

Tangy: 3
John: 4
Karo: 8
Plasma: 11
Forty: 15
Vis: 16
Poke: 23
Mythiot: 25
GavsEvans: 29
Suprak: 30

3. Tangy
I absolutely adore this movie. Not only does it serve as a perfect satire of the entertainment industry, but its also a parody of Lonely Island, while still being a beautiful tribute.

In my write up for Spinal Tap, I mentioned how much I appreciated the attention to detail. Popstar does this as well, but its done to a much higher degree. Every character has an absurd backstory and every single one contributes to this wacky mirror of our reality. While side characters like Harry, the Tony! Toni Tone! Reject and Chris Redd as the maniacal Hunter the Hungry are the obvious standouts, I really love the bit parts too. Tilly, Deborah and Tyrus come to mind immediately, but I think my favorite has to be Zippy the flatlining Guitar Tech.

Oh yeah and then theres the celebrity cameos. Normally they dont do much for me, but here they absolutely work in the films favor. I think its because they actually use them to add even more variety to the comedy. One second youve got Adam Levines hologram grinding on himself and the next youve got Obama calling Conner a real dumb fuck. Hell some of them are actually involved in the plot and songs too. Usher literally has his own character arc about dancing with the Style Boyz. What's not to love?

I could honestly write an essay about how much I love this movie, but Im super behind on these write ups so, Ill just have to leave it at that.

Biggest Laugh: I cant think of just one, so heres my own Catchphrase Verse

He wasnt smoking a blunt, he was just eating it.

Conner! Did you just take a shit in the Anne Frank house!?

We'd like to get to the point where Connor is everywhere, like oxygen or gravity or clinical depression.

Conner4Real fighting with Martin Sheen, gets knocked the F out!

4. John
Legitimately Popstar might have the best soundtrack of any musical comedy movie that exists. This movie in many ways feels like the culmination of Andy Samberg's career up to that point. It's the best of the Lonely Island and the best of what he contributed to SNL. Chris Redd is a great comedic rapper in his own right, and after his Tyler the Creator-esque performance here I was so hyped to see him appear as an SNL cast member years later.

8. Karo
This hilarious satire of the stupidity of the music industry follows the life of a conceited music star as he attempts to strike out alone as a solo artist.
Conner is just a completely narcissistic little shit throughout, much like real life music stars, and therein lies the humor.
Where Spinal Tap falls apart this movie hits all it marks. The ridiculous songs are great and everything just has a wonderful craziness that works very well (the whole appliance bit was especially inspired).

11. Plasma
Better than Spinal Tap in every way. The characters are over-the-top, the songs are hilarious, and the pacing is smooth. Sadly, though, Popstar falls apart toward the end when it delivers a hackneyed moral about forgiveness, selflessness, and all that other happy crap. Wouldve preferred to see this one end tragically. C+

15. Forty
#doinkdedoink Usually like one catchphrase in a hit. He dropped like 30 on us in one night. Shit was crazy! The pop music world is ripe for satire, with the lyrical content, over the top excesses, and relentless self-promotion. Who better to pull it off than Andy Samberg and the Lonely Island boyz who have made a career out of creating hilarious yet genuinely quality music. I love everything about Lonely Island so theres nothing better for me than a whole movie showcasing their songs and videos. I also love a movie with a lot of cameos and this one has a ton of good ones. I dont know that it does enough to create a lasting impression and find its place among all-time great comedies, though. I didnt really find any flaws with it, but I feel like it wont be overly memorable in the long run.

16. Vis
There are two movies on this list that I feel weird ranking this one above (one because this feels far more lowbrow, and the other because it also has a questionable tone and sense of humor), but I just found myself laughing a lot at this movie. I love Andy Samburgs Lonely Island stuff from back in the day on SNL, and taking a bunch of digital short music videos and compiling them into a single character as he tries to show how awesome of a popstar he isit was funny. The actual musical element of this movie nails the comedy. Plus, it nails a lot of the pop music experience, complete with dead-on parodies of TMZ, a ton of celebrity cameos saying some outrageous shit, and that final joke of three different people getting confused by their cameramen, because there are multiple people trying to shoot a documentary at the same timespectacular. It still had some juvenile humor that didnt quite land for me (I didnt need to see a turtle vomiting, for example), but I think it told its story well, and it was fun for the most part.

25. Mythiot
This one really suffered from being watched too close to This Is Spinal Tap, because it really felt like a less funny Spinal Tap. Less memorable characters, very similar plot, and the songs not juggling being both ridiculous and plausible the way Spinal Tap did. That said, there were a lot of good laughs to be had. The songs are quite fun (Dinky Nuts!), the Party Wolves segment was a standout, and by the end I was just as happy at the Style Boyz as all the musicians were in-universe. As a side note, I do appreciate the satisfying mockery of the old put dog shit in baked goods to make a point story you might have heard if you grew up in a conservative household.

29. GavsEvans
Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping charts the rise, fall and rebirth of fictitious popstar Conner 4 Real, from his start as a member of the Style Boys to his solo career wait a minute, this sounds a lot like This is Spinal Tap, doesnt it? Popstar is essentially a contemporary spiritual successor to that film, albeit one on a sugar rush.

Popstar is a movie from comedy band The Lonely Island, and their highly successful song parodies are proof that they can be funny, but unfortunately, I didnt enjoy this movie very much. The reason behind that is, for me, The Lonely Island are funny in small doses. A three-minute song is just the right length for me to enjoy it and find it funny, but a 90-minute film full of their style of humour absurdity, profanity, sex jokes and celebrity cameos mean this one long overstays its welcome. The celebrity cameos in particular prevent this film from having the same immersion that This is Spinal Tap did. As a consequence of this youre not going to mistake Conner 4 Real for a real popstar, for real.

I found this to be inferior to This is Spinal Tap, and I didnt rate that too highly on this list either, so Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping goes down as one of the big disappointments of this list for me. Mockumentaries about fictional musicians really mustnt be my thing, huh? This is getting to be a trend.


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03/14/23 10:32:01 PM
#231:


Outlier Ranking

Mythiot: 130
Suprak: 127
GavsEvans: 100 +
Plasma: 96 -
Vis: 81
Karo: 81 +
forty: 80 -
John: 80
Poke: 69
Tangy: 56

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plasmabeam
03/14/23 10:46:10 PM
#232:


As if Popstar beating Spinal Tap wasn't crazy enough, they had to tie on top of it. Also, PAYOUTS! Poke and Mythiot get $600 each.

VEGAS ODDS ON #16:

+700 Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
+700 Zoolander
+850 National Lampoons Christmas Vacation
+900 Borat
+900 Enchanted
+900 Black Dynamite
+1500 Young Frankenstein
+1500 Monty Pythons The Life of Brian
+1500 Team America: World Police

+200 Any other movie (+2500 if guessed correctly)

Leaderboard:
1) Poke $3450 (+500 Mystery Men, +500 The Freshman, +1250 The Interview, +600 Duck Soup, +600 Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping)
2) Mega $1750 (+500 The Freshman, +1250 The Interview)
3) Inviso $850 (+850 Not Another Teen Movie)
3) Johnbobb $850 (+850 Spaceballs)
4) Forty $600 (+600 Duck Soup)
4) Mythiot $600 (+600 Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping)
5) Suprak $500 (+500 Mystery Men)
5) Gavs $500 (+500 Mystery Men)

The House Won On:
  • Stripes (+1000 odds)
  • Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein (+500 odds)
  • Beverly Hills Cop (+1000 odds)
  • Return of the Living Dead (Unlisted; +2500 odds)
  • Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (Unlisted; +2500 odds)
  • Modern Times (+700 odds)
  • This is Spinal Tap (+1250 odds)



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03/14/23 11:01:08 PM
#233:


So Black Dynamite is the highest ranked movie I haven't seen yet - I'll watch it soon then

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03/14/23 11:50:10 PM
#234:


I'm glad I didn't send in my rankings that I had completed, because looking through these some of them are mean mostly because I didn't anticipate anyone possibly liking them.

Oh man did I hate Popstar so much more than literally any other movie in this ranking. It was in like in a tier by itself, with another tier of nothing in between my 29 and it to help quarantine it from Popstar. Below is my edited, more friendly write-up. I was busy to I actually have a couple of old write-ups I might post to, but at least I made it back in time to see the death of Popstar.

30) Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping N/A (not deserving of a letter grade)

I feel like part of me is just spiteful this got included over Walk Hard when Walk Hard is 1000x the movie this is trying to be. But this was such a bad movie that I left it genuinely in a bad mood. Like I was just stewing that this existed. I love Lonely Island so I should have been exactly the target audience for this but somehow every single thing about it was wrong. It is this humorless, witless, joyless exercise that actually makes me feel dumb for liking the The Lonely Island. Like seeing this makes me feel like maybe I've been stumbling the past decade or so around with an untreated head injury and that is the only reason I liked The Lonely Island. Because if they made this, then I cannot possibly believe that anything else they made was good.

Honestly my biggest problem is that the music in this movie is awful. How is there not a single fun song in this entire movie? I think the issue likely is that they aren't The Lonely Island, right? The whole central conceit of this movie is that the main character is a douchebag, so the are writing songs for this fictional douchebag and it hampers what they can do creatively. That's what I'm blaming it on at least. I can't imagine their talent evaporated overnight unless maybe they hit a gypsy woman with their car right before filming started and that was the curse she inflicted on them. The highlight for me is the Macklemore parody where they just repeatedly shout not gay but thats such a dated reference of a song everyone forgot about that I feel like no one is even going to know what the hell thats referring to in ten years. And, even with that song, the joke that Macklemore's song was awful and he felt the need to proclaim how straight he was in a "gay anthem" was made by dozens of other people. Their one good idea was obvious and lazy and had been made before, so I felt like I couldn't even enjoy that.

Something that bothered me way more than it should've was all those famous cameos that add literally zero to the movie. How many times can they do the haha this famous musician says what an icon the main guy is and how he inspired their music joke? Turns out, all of the times. Thats like half of the jokes in this movie I feel like. It is all lazy, low effort humor and it feels like it was made by someone who had once vaguely heard of the concept of comedy second hand and then was tasked with making a comedy movie.

Also, I might not like Andy Sandberg at all anymore. It was like the end of The Usual Suspects where I get the fax and slowly have the horrible realization that the unfunny comedian I was looking for this entire time was Andy Sandberg all along. I've complained about both Will Ferrell and Seth Rogan at this point, but Andy Sandberg is yet another guy who doesn't seem capable of having any range. I liked Brooklyn 99 but I've been putting off rewatching it for some reason I couldn't really articulate, but after watching this maybe it is because I just don't like Andy Sandberg and he was subconsciously a drain on that entire show. The other two Lonely Island guys cant act and I feel like everyone other than Tim Meadows is actively trying to suck the enjoyment out of this movie. The one time I actually laughed out loud was the Tonee? Joke. I wanted to rank this higher just because Tim Meadows is actually very solid here, but I just cant because I hate everything else about this.

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Pokewars
03/15/23 12:13:12 AM
#235:


Popstar was fun. I love Lonely Island and it had some good laughs.

Guess Enchanted

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Suprak_the_Stud
03/15/23 12:30:16 AM
#236:


plasmabeam posted...
Counter-punch.

Plasma: 11
Suprak: 30

You spin me right round, baby, right round

Guess Team America

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fortybelowsummer
03/15/23 12:33:12 AM
#237:


Guess Christmas Vacation

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Mega_Mana
03/15/23 8:57:43 AM
#238:


Dang, missed two days of betting.

I'll bet on... Young Frankenstein.

As for Popstar & This is Spinal Tap, I need to watch them both again because I remember next-to-nothing about each of them.

Spinal Tap
- "It goes to 11."
- Stonehenge
- The pod getting stuck
- "Old Joe's Place" except that was SNL/A Mighty Wind/The Folksmen

Popstar
- "Humble" and the The Marcels' sample (Yep Werp Hum Bull)
- Tim Meadows
- A turtle?
- It returning to mind Justin Bieber's "Never Say Never" and just no


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plasmabeam
03/15/23 11:04:18 AM
#239:


Suprak_the_Stud posted...
Oh man did I hate Popstar so much more than literally any other movie in this ranking. It was in like in a tier by itself, with another tier of nothing in between my 29 and it to help quarantine it from Popstar. Below is my edited, more friendly write-up. I was busy to I actually have a couple of old write-ups I might post to, but at least I made it back in time to see the death of Popstar.

The viewers at home are dying to know... Popstar or Terrifier?

Also, I might not like Andy Sandberg at all anymore. It was like the end of The Usual Suspects where I get the fax and slowly have the horrible realization that the unfunny comedian I was looking for this entire time was Andy Sandberg all along.

Gold.


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Espeon
03/15/23 1:08:26 PM
#240:


Sticking with guessing Christmas vacation.

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03/15/23 1:30:41 PM
#241:


fortybelowsummer posted...
Guess Christmas Vacation


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Suprak_the_Stud
03/15/23 2:17:20 PM
#242:


plasmabeam posted...
The viewers at home are dying to know... Popstar or Terrifier?

Gold.

Wow tough question.

I think I'd actually go with Terrifier. I've at least talked to people about that since seeing it. I doubt I'll have any memories of Popstar at all within a week.

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GavsEvans123
03/15/23 4:37:06 PM
#243:


Zoolander next

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BetrayedTangy
03/15/23 5:37:44 PM
#244:


16. Monty Pythons Life of Brian (1979)
Directed by Terry Jones
Score: 150

Tangy: 4
Forty: 6
Mythiot: 8
John: 9
GavsEvans: 13
Vis: 18
Poke: 18
Suprak: 22
Plasma: 25
Karo: 27

4. Tangy
I first watched Life of Brian back in HS shortly after seeing Holy Grail and I find it super interesting that my preference between the two has switched. I think what does it for me, is the presence of an actual plot. I also think religion offers more variety in terms of jokes. Scenes like Blessed are the cheese-makers and the "Stoning are great examples, because its not coming after religion its coming after the people that misinterpret religion and act like idiots because of it. In that way I think it stays super relevant and probably will for a very long time to come. Also the fact that this movie was controversial at the time is hysterical, if anything it just proved the movie right, further cementing its place in history.

Biggest Laugh: Im only joking, Im not really Brian.

6. Forty
Hes not the Messiah! Hes a very naughty boy! When I was in high school I took Latin, and one year the class convinced the (female) teacher to watch Life of Brian because, yknow, theres some Latin in it and Romans and stuff. Needless to say, when the penis scene came on it was really awkward and Im pretty sure that was the point when she turned it off. Anyway, while I think it has a funnier premise than Holy Grail, it doesnt reach that level of greatness and overall hilarity. Still, its Monty Python so to me its funnier than about 85% of all movies ever. Considered by some to be highly blasphemous when it came out, it relies somewhat on controversy to fuel the humor and I always appreciate that. And never forget: Always look on the bright side of life.

8. Mythiot
Monty Pythons send-up of biblical epics and blind faith is more organized than Holy Grail and almost as funny. Graham Chapman is a Judean everyman whose failed attempts at rebelling against the Roman Empire (the scene where a centurion deliberately corrects Brians poor Latin grafitti is fantastic) leads him to be mistaken for the Messiah. Everything to do with the Peoples Front of Judea, apart from one cringy transphobic scene, is pure gold. I have thought about the This calls for immediate discussion, countless times over the past few years. And of course, everyone loves the hilariously macabre ending with all the crucified singing Always Look on the Bright Side of Life while dying, except for the religious conservatives who protested the film without even knowing what it was about.

9. John
Watched this back to back with Holy Grail, and while the humor was similar enough between the two, Life of Brian just clicked a lot more. Frankly I'm not sure why this movie isn't as widely parodied as Holy Grail, because there are plenty of scenes that are funny on their own. Brian's terrible preaching in the square, the centurion guard harassing him for his bad grammar in his grafitti. After one watch I already know "it's the meek who are the problem" is going to stick with me long after viewing. And because this movie hasn't been spoiled as much as Holy Grail has, scenes like the spaceship ex machina were startling enough to have me rolling.

13. Gavs
Now this is more like it. After my disappointment with The Holy Grail, I was worried that Life of Brian, which I have seen before, would no longer hold up for me. Luckily, I didnt have to worry about that for the most part.

The main reason this film worked better for me than The Holy Grail was that it felt more focused. There is more of a plot here, rather than a framework for individual sketches, and as a result, the jokes are more closely tied to the narrative. Theres less wackiness, with the one major exception being the scene where Brian is abducted by aliens, which I didnt care for because it lasted too long and Brian was right back where he started once it was over. (Theres a TV Tropes page for that Big Lipped Alligator Moment)

This film offers a satirical take on the life of Jesus Christ, but theres a key difference between Jesus and Brian. Both men are recognised as messiahs, but Brian is far more reluctant about it. He would much prefer to be left alone, and grows continually more frustrated as events spiral out of control. Ironically, Brian is highly influential when he doesnt want to be, but he is totally ignored when he does want others to listen to him, as with the numerous false hopes to save him from the cross. Then again, maybe its for the best that he wasnt saved. Brian died so that we could have one of the all-time classic funeral songs!

18. Vis
The first half of this movie is funny, but largely standard comedy. Theres a plot involving anti-Roman sentiment among the Jewish population of Jerusalem, but overall, it doesnt really resonate THAT much. Its not the portion of the movie thats especially memorable, is what I mean. There are SOME fun moments, namely the parodies revolving around Jesus and the nativity, or the Sermon on the Mount, but the plot is very average, and lacks some of the Monty Python troupes stronger sense of zany comedy. HOWEVER, the back half of the film, starting with Brian attempting to fake sermons to avoid getting arrested (which leads to him sparking a following and being touted as the Messiah), genuinely made me laugh harder than I ever expected. THIS is what I consider satire: just taking the inherent craziness of unfounded religious zealotry (and the multiple interpretations people can have of scripture), and having the Messiah character react to the stupidity of his own followers. It makes the film stronger overall, and I think if that plot carried through the entire film, Id rank it even higher.

25. Plasma
British humor isnt my jam, but theres some worthwhile social commentary here that explores how we build culture and attach meaning to people, events, etc. Its a brainier movie than Holy Grail, yet it feels less inspired. D

27. Karo
The misadventures of Jesus Christ's next door neighbor, Brian of Nazareth, and his struggles to just be left the fuck alone. Despite his protests that he isn't the actual messiah, people follow him to the point where he ends up randomly murdered in the most jolly crucifixion ever.
It certainly is more coherent as a narrative than the first one, but it is sorely lacking in humor. So many of the 'jokes' in this movie compel me to search out the nearest wall and start banging my head repeatedly against it.
The film is a cartoonish and dull affair that seems to try for an R rating just for the fuck of it. None of the jokes are especially dirty, but rather it is just random F-bombs and dicks flopping out that screams out a sad attempt to be 'edgy'.
Unlike Holy Grail there are no memorable scenes in the entire film, and it feels way too long despite only having a runtime of an hour and a half. I don't know what the hell happened here, but Monty Python should be ashamed to have their name on this piece of shit.

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03/15/23 5:44:02 PM
#245:


Outlier Ranking

Mythiot: 138
Suprak: 133
Plasma: 105 +
GavsEvans: 103 -
Karo: 92 +
forty: 90 +
John: 87 +
Vis: 83 -
Poke: 71
Tangy: 68

Mythiot continues to stave off Suprak. Plasma retakes third and Karo, forty and John all take some big jumps up.

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plasmabeam
03/15/23 6:03:04 PM
#246:


HOUSE WINS AND EVERYONE ELSE LOSES!!! Buy, hey, always look on the bright side of life.

VEGAS ODDS ON #15:

+700 Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
+700 Zoolander
+850 National Lampoons Christmas Vacation
+850 Borat
+900 Enchanted
+900 Black Dynamite
+1200 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
+1200 Team America: World Police
+1500 Young Frankenstein

+200 Any other movie (+2500 if guessed correctly)

Leaderboard:
1) Poke $3450 (+500 Mystery Men, +500 The Freshman, +1250 The Interview, +600 Duck Soup, +600 Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping)
2) Mega $1750 (+500 The Freshman, +1250 The Interview)
3) Inviso $850 (+850 Not Another Teen Movie)
3) Johnbobb $850 (+850 Spaceballs)
4) Forty $600 (+600 Duck Soup)
4) Mythiot $600 (+600 Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping)
5) Suprak $500 (+500 Mystery Men)
5) Gavs $500 (+500 Mystery Men)

The House Won On:
  • Stripes (+1000 odds)
  • Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein (+500 odds)
  • Beverly Hills Cop (+1000 odds)
  • Return of the Living Dead (Unlisted; +2500 odds)
  • Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (Unlisted; +2500 odds)
  • Modern Times (+700 odds)
  • This is Spinal Tap (+1250 odds)
  • Monty Pythons The Life of Brian (+1500)



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Suprak_the_Stud
03/15/23 6:07:32 PM
#247:


There were several movies on the list that I thought were dumb, but this is the only one that made me think maybe I was dumb. Or at least dumber that I used to be. This used to be one of my favorite movies. Or, at least, high school Suprak claimed it was. I had it on my Facebook and everything! That's how official it was. I didn't remember any specifics, at all, which should've been my first red flag during my rewatch. I could still recite scenes from Holy Grail basically line for line but I remembered absolutely nothing about Life of Brain (other than the ending song - which is an absolute banger and better than anything in that FRAUD Popstar). But I remember thinking it was super clever and was like the "smart" Monty Python movie.

And uh...

Er...

I'm not sure what happened. I looked up some stuff after watching it and I was finding it on lists EVERYWHERE for best comedies of all time. So it has to just be a me problem, I guess. What is wrong with my brain now? Was I a pretentious little twerp in high school or am I just dumb now? Probably both, but still, I just did not find this all that funny. It wasn't completely unwatchable and I had I good number of those "nose snort almost laughs" going on but that was about it. There was a lot of stuff where I'd be like "oh that's clever" but not actually laugh.

Also, there's beating a dead horse and then there's what this movie does which is beat the horse, beat it until it's dead, summon the world's best horse doc to bring it back to life, nurse it back to health, and get it back into racing form over the course of a long grueling yearlong process, and then subsequently beating it to death again. Man does this movie love telling you the same joke eighteen times until your brain starts to reassess what comedy is. That biggus dickus scene went on for, and I'm not exaggerating, an entire month. I just checked and it is still going on right now with no indication that it will ever stop.

I started this project thinking this will be in my top five, and leave it having an identity crisis. THANKS A LOT, TANGY

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Natalie
03/15/23 7:20:21 PM
#248:


I once heard someone describe their feelings about Life of Brian by saying that Monty Python as anarchists are a lot more compelling than Monty Python as hard truth-telling satirists. That just about sums up where I land on LoB. Holy Grail leans into the troupe's absurdity, the heavy juxtaposition and running-too-long gags and all that, but Life of Brian sacrifices most of it in pursuit of a topical message. It's not without its moments, like the wonderful ending routine, but a lot of the biblical stuff is so on the nose, so overdone.
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Johnbobb
03/15/23 8:41:45 PM
#249:


whoof

staying on christmas I think

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03/15/23 8:53:13 PM
#250:


Suprak_the_Stud posted...
I started this project thinking this will be in my top five, and leave it having an identity crisis. THANKS A LOT, TANGY

Lmao, I've been nostalgia shocked by quite a few as well. It's kind of bizarre seeing movies you loved as a kid and wound up hating now.

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Pokewars
03/15/23 9:52:33 PM
#251:


Life of Brian didn't hold up as well for me. Just very average. Not Monty Python's best.

Guessing Enchanted

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