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Thorn 01/04/23 3:19:30 PM #151:	Still waiting for the gavel (Fake Edit: Okay gavel right as I was finishing up hence my results post) so I guess I'll follow a sacred Board 8 tradition and make a list. Specifically, a "longest Speaker elections in history" list. This is the 15th Speaker election to go beyond the first ballot, we can rank them two ways - by number of ballots or by length of time it took to reach a successful election: By Number of Ballots: 1. 133rd Ballot - 1855-1856 (Decided by Plurality) 2. 63rd Ballot - 1849 (Decided by Plurality) 3. 44th Ballot - 1859-1860 4. 22nd Ballot - 1820 Special Election 5. 12th Ballot - 1821 6. 11th Ballot - 1839 7. 10th Ballot - 1834 Special Election 8. 9th Ballot - 1923 9. 6+ Ballots - 2023 T10. 3rd Ballot - 1793 T10. 3rd Ballot - 1805 T10. 3rd Ballot - 1847 T13. 2nd Ballot - 1799 T13. 2nd Ballot - 1809 T13. 2nd Ballot - 1825 By Time: 1. 61 Days - 1855-1856 (Decided by Plurality) 2. 58 Days - 1859-1860 3. 20 Days - 1849 (Decided by Plurality) T4. 3 Days - 1820 Special Election T4. 3 Days - 1839 T4. 3 Days - 1923 T7. 2 Days - 1821 *T7. 2+ Days - 2023* T9. Same Day - 1793 T9. Same Day - 1799 T9. Same Day - 1805 T9. Same Day - 1809 T9. Same Day - 1825 T9. Same Day - 1834 Special Election T9. Same Day - 1847 --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970616675] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Still waiting for the gavel (Fake Edit: Okay gavel right as I was finishing up hence my results post) so I guess I'll follow a sacred Board 8 tradition and make a list. Specifically, a "longest Speaker elections in history" list.This is the 15th Speaker election to go beyond the first ballot, we can rank them two ways - by number of ballots or by length of time it took to reach a successful election:By Number of Ballots:1. 133rd Ballot - 1855-1856 (Decided by Plurality)2. 63rd Ballot - 1849 (Decided by Plurality) 3. 44th Ballot - 1859-18604. 22nd Ballot - 1820 Special Election5. 12th Ballot - 18216. 11th Ballot - 18397. 10th Ballot - 1834 Special Election8. 9th Ballot - 19239. 6+ Ballots - 2023T10. 3rd Ballot - 1793T10. 3rd Ballot - 1805T10. 3rd Ballot - 1847T13. 2nd Ballot - 1799T13. 2nd Ballot - 1809T13. 2nd Ballot - 1825By Time:1. 61 Days - 1855-1856 (Decided by Plurality)2. 58 Days - 1859-18603. 20 Days - 1849 (Decided by Plurality)T4. 3 Days - 1820 Special ElectionT4. 3 Days - 1839T4. 3 Days - 1923T7. 2 Days - 1821T7. 2+ Days - 2023T9. Same Day - 1793T9. Same Day - 1799T9. Same Day - 1805T9. Same Day - 1809T9. Same Day - 1825T9. Same Day - 1834 Special ElectionT9. Same Day - 1847</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 01/04/23 3:20:46 PM #152:	KamikazePotato posted... My first viewpoint was that, in lieu of actual progress, the best thing the Dems could do would be to keep putting forward helpful motions that get denied. It does make the GOP look bad to voters, if only a little bit. In a more reasonable world, sure. But the gop has the benefit of being able to be the ones who torch the house with a flamethrower, and then complain about the house being on fire, and take credit for putting the fire out after the house is a pile of ashes. All with a straight face and no defections from their base. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:970616707] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>My first viewpoint was that, in lieu of actual progress, the best thing the Dems could do would be to keep putting forward helpful motions that get denied. It does make the GOP look bad to voters, if only a little bit.</quote>In a more reasonable world, sure. But the gop has the benefit of being able to be the ones who torch the house with a flamethrower, and then complain about the house being on fire, and take credit for putting the fire out after the house is a pile of ashes. All with a straight face and no defections from their base. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/04/23 4:08:23 PM #153:	https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1610734126184661005 God, it's a clown show up there. As a side note, Cammack's speech where she said that (as part of her nominating McCarthy for Ballot 6) was by far the most obnoxious speech I've heard so far in this and I've heard most of them. When the Dems understandably reacted to that accusation she had the smuggest look on her face and basically requested that they be gavelled down into silence by the clerk. Not even the HFC speeches have been that bad and they'd had some whoppers of their own. --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970617773] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1610734126184661005God, it's a clown show up there.As a side note, Cammack's speech where she said that (as part of her nominating McCarthy for Ballot 6) was by far the most obnoxious speech I've heard so far in this and I've heard most of them. When the Dems understandably reacted to that accusation she had the smuggest look on her face and basically requested that they be gavelled down into silence by the clerk.Not even the HFC speeches have been that bad and they'd had some whoppers of their own.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 01/04/23 4:10:57 PM #154:	That speech was awful, but Perrys afterwards was also insane --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:970617832] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>That speech was awful, but Perrys afterwards was also insane</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/04/23 4:13:07 PM #155:	Like I said in Discord as I was live reacting, he definitely took a run at it but IMO he fell short. --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970617879] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Like I said in Discord as I was live reacting, he definitely took a run at it but IMO he fell short.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoBlazer 01/04/23 4:16:17 PM #156:	The Republican speeches have varied from obnoxious to batshit. Each one has served as a brilliant reminder as to why I can never support these people. --- Burnin, Blazin http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif <cite>YoBlazer posted [p:970617962] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>The Republican speeches have varied from obnoxious to batshit. Each one has served as a brilliant reminder as to why I can never support these people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/04/23 4:33:25 PM #157:	Speaker Vote (Ballot 6) Results: Jeffries (D) - 212 (48.96%) McCarthy (R) - 201 (46.42%) Donalds (R) - 20 (4.62%) Present - 1 Votes Cast: 433 (+ 1 Present) Number Needed for Majority: 217 Same as Ballots 4 and 5. Motion to adjourn until 8 PM adopted by voice vote. --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970618318] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Speaker Vote (Ballot 6) Results:Jeffries (D) - 212 (48.96%)McCarthy (R) - 201 (46.42%)Donalds (R) - 20 (4.62%)Present - 1 Votes Cast: 433 (+ 1 Present)Number Needed for Majority: 217Same as Ballots 4 and 5. Motion to adjourn until 8 PM adopted by voice vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 01/04/23 9:45:18 PM #158:	Kevin can still win if Mike Pence has the courage! --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:970624688] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Kevin can still win if Mike Pence has the courage!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/04/23 11:09:00 PM #159:	Oh, right. House came back at 8 but immediately voted to adjourn to tomorrow. Dems almost managed to stop them from doing so but enough Republicans switched over to adjourn to let it squeak by. Afterwards, reports are that McCarthy has made even more concessions to the HFC. Including putting more of them on the rules committee and allowing a motion to vacate the chair by only one member. https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1610843306312753152 --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970626250] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Oh, right. House came back at 8 but immediately voted to adjourn to tomorrow. Dems almost managed to stop them from doing so but enough Republicans switched over to adjourn to let it squeak by.Afterwards, reports are that McCarthy has made even more concessions to the HFC. Including putting more of them on the rules committee and allowing a motion to vacate the chair by only one member.https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1610843306312753152</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 01/04/23 11:29:41 PM #160:	mccarthy is just teaching the HFC that they can keep doing this longer and he'll keep folding --- Kneel... or you will be knelt <cite>NFUN posted [p:970626603] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>mccarthy is just teaching the HFC that they can keep doing this longer and he'll keep folding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/05/23 12:41:40 PM #161:	Ballot 7 in progress but so far is proceeding just like Ballots 4-6. I was curious to see if McCarthy would peel any of the defectors away after caving even more there but doesn't seem like it at least. Should be going to Ballot 8. Update: Okay, not exactly like Ballots 4-6. Gaetz voted for Trump lmfao. (Vote still ongoing) --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970635953] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Ballot 7 in progress but so far is proceeding just like Ballots 4-6. I was curious to see if McCarthy would peel any of the defectors away after caving even more there but doesn't seem like it at least. Should be going to Ballot 8.Update: Okay, not exactly like Ballots 4-6. Gaetz voted for Trump lmfao. (Vote still ongoing)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 01/05/23 1:00:43 PM #162:	at what point do you just accept that this isnt going anywhere and make a change --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:970636397] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>at what point do you just accept that this isnt going anywhere and make a change </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 01/05/23 1:04:18 PM #163:	MoogleKupo141 posted... at what point do you just accept that this isnt going anywhere and make a change Who is making the change? The 200 people all voting the same way? Can't imagine they would be happy to cave to a fringe. The funny thing is there is just no win here. There is no way they will collaborate with democrats. They would be labeled RINOS no matter how absurd it would be, and they can't cave to the 10% without looking weak. This is just a hilariously bad situation for the Republicans --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:970636483] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite><quote>at what point do you just accept that this isnt going anywhere and make a change</quote>Who is making the change? The 200 people all voting the same way? Can't imagine they would be happy to cave to a fringe.The funny thing is there is just no win here. There is no way they will collaborate with democrats. They would be labeled RINOS no matter how absurd it would be, and they can't cave to the 10% without looking weak.This is just a hilariously bad situation for the Republicans </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/05/23 1:07:41 PM #165:	MoogleKupo141 posted... at what point do you just accept that this isnt going anywhere and make a change The fundamental problem they (GOP) has is that quite literally unless they have the votes to adjourn they're stuck in an endless loop of voting for Speaker. So if the Dems and HFC refuse to give them the votes to adjourn it just keeps going. And when they adjourn they have to set the time they come back so they can't just go "adjourn until we figure this out amongst ourselves behind closed doors." Ballot 7 winding down. All the defectors stayed where they are... though 2 missed their name when first called, including comically Donalds himself, I assume they'll vote when we hit the end of the list and the only difference from Ballots 4-6 is Gaetz voting Trump. --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970636559] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite><quote>at what point do you just accept that this isnt going anywhere and make a change</quote>The fundamental problem they (GOP) has is that quite literally unless they have the votes to adjourn they're stuck in an endless loop of voting for Speaker. So if the Dems and HFC refuse to give them the votes to adjourn it just keeps going. And when they adjourn they have to set the time they come back so they can't just go "adjourn until we figure this out amongst ourselves behind closed doors."Ballot 7 winding down. All the defectors stayed where they are... though 2 missed their name when first called, including comically Donalds himself, I assume they'll vote when we hit the end of the list and the only difference from Ballots 4-6 is Gaetz voting Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/05/23 1:41:34 PM #166:	Speaker Vote (Ballot 7) Results: Jeffries (D) - 212 (48.96%) McCarthy (R) - 201 (46.42%) Donalds (R) - 19 (4.38%) Trump (R) - 1 (0.23%) Present - 1 Votes Cast: 433 (+ 1 Present) Number Needed for Majority: 217 So, yeah, aside from Gaetz deciding to vote for Trump same as Ballots 4-6. We're on to Cincinnatti-I mean Ballot 8. --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970637332] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Speaker Vote (Ballot 7) Results:Jeffries (D) - 212 (48.96%)McCarthy (R) - 201 (46.42%)Donalds (R) - 19 (4.38%)Trump (R) - 1 (0.23%)Present - 1 Votes Cast: 433 (+ 1 Present)Number Needed for Majority: 217So, yeah, aside from Gaetz deciding to vote for Trump same as Ballots 4-6. We're on to Cincinnatti-I mean Ballot 8.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 01/05/23 1:56:20 PM #167:	Debbie Stabenow said that shes not running for reelection in 2024 not ideal --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:970637660] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Debbie Stabenow said that shes not running for reelection in 2024 not ideal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 01/05/23 2:09:06 PM #168:	Very ideal. Normalize having fewer (ideally zero) 70+ year olds in politics. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:970637923] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Very ideal. Normalize having fewer (ideally zero) 70+ year olds in politics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/05/23 2:11:26 PM #169:	Boebert, apparently not pleased with being out-maneuvered by Gaetz, just decided to showboat and troll by making a big show of standing up and going, "I vote for Kevin... [a 30 second tangent here] ...Hern of Oklahoma." She got another vote for him from another Never Kevin voter but we're still early here. Donalds is still the one who got the actual nomination. --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970637972] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Boebert, apparently not pleased with being out-maneuvered by Gaetz, just decided to showboat and troll by making a big show of standing up and going, "I vote for Kevin... [a 30 second tangent here] ...Hern of Oklahoma."She got another vote for him from another Never Kevin voter but we're still early here. Donalds is still the one who got the actual nomination. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheManaSword 01/05/23 2:16:16 PM #170:	how can you be never kevin if you vote for kevin smh --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>TheManaSword posted [p:970638085] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>how can you be never kevin if you vote for kevin smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pokewars 01/05/23 2:21:11 PM #171:	TheManaSword posted... how can you be never kevin if you vote for kevin smh "It says no KevinS. We're allowed to have one." --- "To be underestimated is an incredible gift." - Jack Rackham, Black Sails <cite>Pokewars posted [p:970638197] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>TheManaSword posted... </cite><quote>how can you be never kevin if you vote for kevin smh</quote>"It says no KevinS. We're allowed to have one."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 01/05/23 2:21:52 PM #172:	Thorn posted... Boebert, apparently not pleased with being out-maneuvered by Gaetz, just decided to showboat and troll by making a big show of standing up and going, "I vote for Kevin... [a 30 second tangent here] ...Hern of Oklahoma." How long until someone votes for Kevin McCarthy of Aurora CO? Or Charlotte North Carolina?Or Midland Texas? --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:970638211] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Thorn posted... </cite><quote>Boebert, apparently not pleased with being out-maneuvered by Gaetz, just decided to showboat and troll by making a big show of standing up and going, "I vote for Kevin... [a 30 second tangent here] ...Hern of Oklahoma."</quote>How long until someone votes for Kevin McCarthy of Aurora CO? Or Charlotte North Carolina?Or Midland Texas?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 01/05/23 2:26:06 PM #173:	McCarthy comma Melissa --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:970638290] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>McCarthy comma Melissa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pokewars 01/05/23 2:27:01 PM #174:	Kevin Mc....Callister. He knows how to defend his home and abroad. --- "To be underestimated is an incredible gift." - Jack Rackham, Black Sails <cite>Pokewars posted [p:970638306] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Kevin Mc....Callister. He knows how to defend his home and abroad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 01/05/23 2:48:44 PM #175:	https://twitter.com/rightwingwatch/status/1611025349030318082?s=46&t=5JY5Y2zjEJbZgJndyuCLwA --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:970638749] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/rightwingwatch/status/1611025349030318082?s=46&t=5JY5Y2zjEJbZgJndyuCLwA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 01/05/23 2:57:40 PM #176:	Hes a bigtime stop the steal guy, so I assume whatever evidence he has will actually not be evidence and nothing will come of this. --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:970638967] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Hes a bigtime stop the steal guy, so I assume whatever evidence he has will actually not be evidence and nothing will come of this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 01/05/23 2:59:25 PM #177:	MoogleKupo141 posted... Hes a bigtime stop the steal guy, so I assume whatever evidence he has will actually not be evidence and nothing will come of this. I mean would it change if he did have evidence? Unless he's got evidence she voted in favor of Gun Control at some point, or to codify Roe v. Wade, like all Republicans she's untouchable. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:970639005] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite><quote>Hes a bigtime stop the steal guy, so I assume whatever evidence he has will actually not be evidence and nothing will come of this.</quote>I mean would it change if he did have evidence? Unless he's got evidence she voted in favor of Gun Control at some point, or to codify Roe v. Wade, like all Republicans she's untouchable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 01/05/23 3:04:22 PM #178:	I mean...did we have hard evidence that she actually hired people to threaten Ausdal's family and make him drop out in 2018 and flee the state? That could certainly be a big one! --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:970639111] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>I mean...did we have hard evidence that she actually hired people to threaten Ausdal's family and make him drop out in 2018 and flee the state? That could certainly be a big one! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 01/05/23 3:05:16 PM #179:	What if she really is the January 5th pipe Bomber --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:970639137] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>What if she really is the January 5th pipe Bomber </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 01/05/23 3:11:38 PM #180:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... What if she really is the January 5th pipe Bomber he said hes giving his evidence to Georgias AG, so it cant be about that --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:970639283] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite><quote>What if she really is the January 5th pipe Bomber </quote>he said hes giving his evidence to Georgias AG, so it cant be about that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/05/23 3:16:30 PM #181:	Speaker Vote (Ballot 8) Results: Jeffries (D) - 212 (48.96%) McCarthy (R) - 201 (46.42%) Donalds (R) - 17 (3.93%) Hern (R) - 2 (0.46%) Trump (R) - 1 (0.23%) Present - 1 Votes Cast: 433 (+ 1 Present) Number Needed for Majority: 217 We've entered an endless recursion of time. So, as mentioned earlier Hern was Boebert's vote and she got a taker. He's a representative from Oklahoma who first took office in 2019. Gaetz still voting for Trump. We proceed to a 9th Ballot. --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970639382] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Speaker Vote (Ballot 8) Results:Jeffries (D) - 212 (48.96%)McCarthy (R) - 201 (46.42%)Donalds (R) - 17 (3.93%)Hern (R) - 2 (0.46%)Trump (R) - 1 (0.23%)Present - 1 Votes Cast: 433 (+ 1 Present)Number Needed for Majority: 217We've entered an endless recursion of time.So, as mentioned earlier Hern was Boebert's vote and she got a taker. He's a representative from Oklahoma who first took office in 2019. Gaetz still voting for Trump. We proceed to a 9th Ballot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 01/05/23 3:35:22 PM #182:	The freedom friend doing this Donalds nomination this time is very angry! --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:970639813] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>The freedom friend doing this Donalds nomination this time is very angry!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 01/05/23 3:40:28 PM #183:	Lmao now Boebert is giving a speech to nominate Kevin Kern (very obviously purely based on his first name being Kevin) --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:970639920] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Lmao now Boebert is giving a speech to nominate Kevin Kern (very obviously purely based on his first name being Kevin)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TotallyNotMI 01/05/23 3:44:52 PM #184:	These people are such jokes --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. <cite>TotallyNotMI posted [p:970640013] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>These people are such jokes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 01/05/23 3:46:28 PM #185:	I mean I'm pretty sure they only glomped onto the other guy because his name was Donalds so it checks --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:970640049] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>I mean I'm pretty sure they only glomped onto the other guy because his name was Donalds so it checks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/05/23 3:48:59 PM #186:	LordoftheMorons posted... Lmao now Boebert is giving a speech to nominate Kevin Kern (very obviously purely based on his first name being Kevin) She's overplaying the joke. She already did that when she voted for him on Ballot 8 by very dramatically standing and going "I rise to vote for Kevin... [talking about other stuff to draw it out for a good 30 seconds] ...Hern of Oklahoma" Think she just wanted to get speech time since placing an official nomination before the round of voting lets you make a speech and is the only time you can as things currently stand. You can vote for people not nominated - as she did when she voted for Hern in Ballot 8, or Gaetz's Trump votes - the only real benefit of officially nominating someone is getting to make that speech. Ostensibly it's to try and convince people to vote your pick but the clerk can't really enforce topicality soooo... --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970640100] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite><quote>Lmao now Boebert is giving a speech to nominate Kevin Kern (very obviously purely based on his first name being Kevin)</quote>She's overplaying the joke. She already did that when she voted for him on Ballot 8 by very dramatically standing and going "I rise to vote for Kevin... [talking about other stuff to draw it out for a good 30 seconds] ...Hern of Oklahoma"Think she just wanted to get speech time since placing an official nomination before the round of voting lets you make a speech and is the only time you can as things currently stand. You can vote for people not nominated - as she did when she voted for Hern in Ballot 8, or Gaetz's Trump votes - the only real benefit of officially nominating someone is getting to make that speech.Ostensibly it's to try and convince people to vote your pick but the clerk can't really enforce topicality soooo...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn 01/05/23 3:57:56 PM #187:	LordoftheMorons posted... Lmao now Boebert is giving a speech to nominate Kevin Kern (very obviously purely based on his first name being Kevin) I wonder how long it'll be before the Freedom Caucus goes and finds a different Kevin McCarthy to nominate as a joke. --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! <cite>Xeybozn posted [p:970640311] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite><quote>Lmao now Boebert is giving a speech to nominate Kevin Kern (very obviously purely based on his first name being Kevin)</quote>I wonder how long it'll be before the Freedom Caucus goes and finds a different Kevin McCarthy to nominate as a joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thorn 01/05/23 4:49:04 PM #188:	Speaker Vote (Ballot 9) Results: Jeffries (D) - 212 (49.07%) McCarthy (R) - 200 (46.30%) Donalds (R) - 17 (3.94%) Hern (R) - 3 (0.69%) Present - 1 Votes Cast: 432 (+ 1 Present) Number Needed for Majority: 217 Gaetz switches from Trump to Hern. Sad! Also, a GOP member missed this vote (CSPAN saying he left for some medical appointment), hence the drop in McCarthy's total (and the overall total.) Also means Jeffries breaks the 49% barrier =o Looks like they're proceeding to Ballot 10 now but I will probably miss it. Not that these results posts really differ much from one to another. --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:970641635] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Speaker Vote (Ballot 9) Results:Jeffries (D) - 212 (49.07%)McCarthy (R) - 200 (46.30%)Donalds (R) - 17 (3.94%)Hern (R) - 3 (0.69%)Present - 1 Votes Cast: 432 (+ 1 Present)Number Needed for Majority: 217Gaetz switches from Trump to Hern. Sad! Also, a GOP member missed this vote (CSPAN saying he left for some medical appointment), hence the drop in McCarthy's total (and the overall total.) Also means Jeffries breaks the 49% barrier =oLooks like they're proceeding to Ballot 10 now but I will probably miss it. Not that these results posts really differ much from one to another.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 01/05/23 5:02:04 PM #189:	Thank you for putting them together like this. May be pointless but it's good --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:970642018] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Thank you for putting them together like this. May be pointless but it's good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 01/05/23 5:14:59 PM #190:	Peace___Frog posted... Thank you for putting them together like this. May be pointless but it's good --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:970642362] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted... </cite><quote>Thank you for putting them together like this. May be pointless but it's good</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 01/05/23 5:23:59 PM #191:	Peace___Frog posted... Thank you for putting them together like this. May be pointless but it's good --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:970642583] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted... </cite><quote>Thank you for putting them together like this. May be pointless but it's good</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 01/05/23 6:59:36 PM #192:	If concessions don't work, at some point they just need to go plurality and play chicken with these people. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:970644910] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>If concessions don't work, at some point they just need to go plurality and play chicken with these people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 01/05/23 8:05:17 PM #193:	My prediction is that theyll ultimately have to come crawling to the Dems for help. Im pretty sure there are several Rs who truly are Never Kevin. --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:970646529] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>My prediction is that theyll ultimately have to come crawling to the Dems for help. Im pretty sure there are several Rs who truly are Never Kevin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn 01/05/23 8:21:47 PM #194:	Will they offer any concessions to the Dems, or are they just going to wait several months for the debt ceiling vote to come due and say that not blowing up the global economy should be enough of a concession? --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! <cite>Xeybozn posted [p:970646857] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Will they offer any concessions to the Dems, or are they just going to wait several months for the debt ceiling vote to come due and say that not blowing up the global economy should be enough of a concession?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 01/05/23 8:26:38 PM #195:	kevwaffles posted... If concessions don't work, at some point they just need to go plurality and play chicken with these people. I think this will happen honestly --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:970646967] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>kevwaffles posted... </cite><quote>If concessions don't work, at some point they just need to go plurality and play chicken with these people.</quote>I think this will happen honestly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 01/05/23 8:28:49 PM #196:	So just to make sure I've got it right, if they decide to go chicken and the Mever Kevin's just don't hit the breaks, that's a clean Jeffries win? --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:970647024] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>So just to make sure I've got it right, if they decide to go chicken and the Mever Kevin's just don't hit the breaks, that's a clean Jeffries win? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 01/05/23 9:06:16 PM #197:	LordoftheMorons posted... My prediction is that theyll ultimately have to come crawling to the Dems for help. I can't see this happening. Any Republican who dares to give even the appearance of compromising with the Ds will immediately be branded a RINO traitor by Fox News and the base, and they will become politically ineffective until they're primaried in 2024. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:970647735] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite><quote>My prediction is that theyll ultimately have to come crawling to the Dems for help.</quote>I can't see this happening. Any Republican who dares to give even the appearance of compromising with the Ds will immediately be branded a RINO traitor by Fox News and the base, and they will become politically ineffective until they're primaried in 2024. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 01/05/23 9:35:21 PM #198:	Gaetz has said he'd rather have Jeffries than McCarthy, but who knows how much of that is true and how much he's bluffing to fuck with McCarthy. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:970648282] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Gaetz has said he'd rather have Jeffries than McCarthy, but who knows how much of that is true and how much he's bluffing to fuck with McCarthy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
swordz9 01/05/23 9:41:52 PM #199:	Youd think there would be some kinda rule where after so many failures it just defaults to whoever gets the most votes even if its not the full amount <cite>swordz9 posted [p:970648407] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Youd think there would be some kinda rule where after so many failures it just defaults to whoever gets the most votes even if its not the full amount </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/05/23 9:42:39 PM #200:	Not_an_Owl posted... I can't see this happening. Any Republican who dares to give even the appearance of compromising with the Ds will immediately be branded a RINO traitor by Fox News and the base, and they will become politically ineffective until they're primaried in 2024. Don't know about that. Fox News is slamming the 20 defectors pretty hard. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:970648416] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>Not_an_Owl posted... </cite><quote>I can't see this happening. Any Republican who dares to give even the appearance of compromising with the Ds will immediately be branded a RINO traitor by Fox News and the base, and they will become politically ineffective until they're primaried in 2024.</quote>Don't know about that. Fox News is slamming the 20 defectors pretty hard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 01/05/23 9:44:11 PM #201:	swordz9 posted... Youd think there would be some kinda rule where after so many failures it just defaults to whoever gets the most votes even if its not the full amount I was in disbelief when I heard that yes, they really do just keep re-voting until something changes Absolutely absurd way to do things --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:970648448] in Politics C... [t:80290729]...</cite> <quote>swordz9 posted... </cite><quote>Youd think there would be some kinda rule where after so many failures it just defaults to whoever gets the most votes even if its not the full amount</quote>I was in disbelief when I heard that yes, they really do just keep re-voting until something changesAbsolutely absurd way to do things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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