Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 400: Pad Taiwan's Defense Budget

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thats a really cruel punishment, cuz he seems like a guy who lives for New Years Eve

what

https://twitter.com/ConspiracyBull1/status/1609182448235028484

what in the

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what

"Women need to have twice as many babies."

Another twitter thread I should not have looked at

Pretty sure shes a tankie from what Ive seen of her before, but wow

https://twitter.com/RobertMaguire_/status/1609203024676667392

we all knew we would arrive here

https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1609678528588529668?s=21

Pretty pathetic!

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1609931837429927936

Something something leopards and faces

https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/local-state/2022-12-21/hillsborough-judge-who-lost-re-election-is-appointed-to-court-of-appeal-by-gov-desantis

Judge ousted after denying teen the right to an abortion because she wasn't 'responsible enough', appointed to appeals court by DeSantis because of course he was.

Wow.

"Elections have consequences". Unless we don't like the result.

Elections have consequences. In this case, the consequence of electing DeSantis is that he is dumb as shit and makes bad decisions.

GOP and the pharmaceutical companies having a normal one over Medicare getting the ability to negotiate drug prices under the Inflation Reduction Act.

https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1609801724642103303

"It'll save people money on getting the healthcare they need. Once they see that they'll want the policy to be expanded. We've gotta stop it before it's too late!"

Thorn posted...

GOP and the pharmaceutical companies having a normal one over Medicare getting the ability to negotiate drug prices under the Inflation Reduction Act.

GOP: THE EVIL PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES WANT YOU TO TAKE THIS VACCINE! THEY ARE BAD!

Pharmaceutical Companies: "Here, have some money. Just stop people from saving money on our drugs."

GOP: "BUT THE DEMOCRATS ARE WORSE! SO WE MUST STOP THEM FROM GOING AFTER BIG PHARMA."

GOP Voters: "Yeah! All of what he said! We hate Big Pharma, so we should absolutely make sure we're letting them control the price of drugs. As long as we don't have to take a vaccine or anything."

https://twitter.com/LipBrenna/status/1609705212398260226

Oh so this is what sephy has been up to

Speaker vote Round 1 going on right now.

McCarthy can only afford 4 defections to reach 218. (Quorum call is at 434 so 218 is indeed the number)

He's got (at least) 4 already and we're only 25% into the roll call. We haven't had a Speaker be failed to be selected on the first ballot in a 100 years (Literally. 1923.)

Edit: CSPAN already saying no one has the votes for 218. Guess some in their "Other" column are GOP votes to go along with 4 for Biggs. lmao. Jeffries gonna end up with the most votes this ballot lmfao

This is going to be really interesting

We know radical republicans are known for their nuance and pragmatism so Im sure they will eventually cave (Cant wait for it to be February before we have a House of Representatives)

Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/LipBrenna/status/1609705212398260226

Oh so this is what sephy has been up to

The TimJab hookup

So, I guess it's time for Speaker vote trivia time!

The Speaker vote requires a majority of votes cast (Presents and no-shows lower the count required so it's not always 218. Most recently, Pelosi was elected Speaker in the previous Congress with 216 votes but only 427 votes were cast so 214 was the magic number.)

If no one gets that majority on the first ballot, they just keep voting until someone does - which has only happened 14 times. As mention, the last time a Speaker failed to be elected on the first ballot was 1923. On the first ballot the Republican Speaker only got 197 when the needed number was 208. He finally received a majority and retained his speakership on the 9th ballot.

The most recent time where the highest vote getter on the first ballot did not end up with it eventually was 1859 where a Democrat got 86 (37.5%) when a majority was 116. It went 44 ballots (and two months) before a Republican got 117 which was the exact number needed for the votes cast in that round.

However, while the vote requires a majority by default, on two occasions the House just went "fuck it" and changed to plurality voting. The first occasion was in 1849 where after ballot 59 they adopted a rule saying if they failed 3 more times it'd go to plurality. And so on Ballot 63 a speaker was elected with 46.16% of the votes cast.

The other occasion was also the longest Speaker election on record when in 1855 there was another 2 month marathon. Once again, they eventually adopted a "3 more tries" rule... on ballot 129. And so on Ballot 133 a Speaker was elected with 48.13% of votes cast.

19 Rs voted against McCarthy on the first ballot

Also man, I didnt see a single mask in the room, even on the Dem side.

19 is enough I bet we get a plurality vote again

I'm waiting for the results to be gavelled in but yeah. Looks like 19 defections. 10 for Biggs. The other 9 are split across Jim Jordan, Jim Banks, Byron Donald, and Lee Zeldin (who is no longer a member). Not sure if that's all of them but WaPo lists them.

Speaker Vote (Ballot 1) Results:

Jeffries (D) - 212 (48.85%)
McCarthy (R) - 203 (46.77%)
Biggs (R) - 10 (2.30%)
Jordan (R) - 6 (1.38%)
Jim Banks (R) - 1 (0.23%)
Byron Donald (R) - 1 (0.23%)
Lee Zeldin (R) - 1 (0.23%)

Votes Cast: 434
Number Needed for Majority: 218

Okay, that took them forever to gavel in, I guess as everyone decided what was going to the next step. Sounds like they're gearing up for a second ballot but have to do a roll call first. But Jordan just spoke up and is now giving a speech now to beg the defectors to vote McCarthy. And whining about how the previous Congress funded the government two weeks ago and now deep state shit.

lol what doofus voted for Zeldin

The neat part is that even if all the Jordan votes fall in line, they still don't have enough

McCarthy looks feckless. Jeffries, by contrast, looks like he's ready to crack skulls. We need at least a few like him on the left.

That's why we elected Fetterman.

masterplum posted...

19 is enough I bet we get a plurality vote again

It could be dangerous for them to do that given how many votes Jeffries has!

LMFAO Gaetz just stood up and nominated Jim Jordan for Speaker after Jordan's speech begging for McCarthy.

Second ballot in progress. "Officially" nominated candidates are Jeffries, McCarthy, and Jordan. Though as always they can vote for whoever.

33 votes in and Jordan already at 3, so McCarthy can only lose 2 more from here. We're totally going another round only question is what the defection count stands at after this round.

Edit: Now at 4 with 40 votes cast lmaoooooooooooooo

TheManaSword posted...

lol what doofus voted for Zeldin

not sure yet. didn't hear it when it happened and can't (quickly) find a who voted for who thing

https://twitter.com/jacksonboaz_/status/1610165318281826306?s=21

And a 5th vote for Jordan now while the roll call is still in the C names (it's alphabetical). So barring a bunch of present votes to knock the threshold down we're already clinched a third ballot.

Up: Still in the middle of the D names and Jordan at 7 votes so I think we can all but confirm a third ballot.
Up2: CSPAN has essentially called it too lol

And they cant really vote present because that would lower the threshold enough to possibly allow Jeffries to take it. God what a fucking clown show! And these idiots will (still probably) be running the House for 2 years

TheManaSword posted...

lol what doofus voted for Zeldin

https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1610338447696297987?s=21

Jim Jordan: vote for kev plz

*proceeds to get more votes than the first ballot*

I wasn't sure how seriously to take it but I did hear a reporter saying the Never Kevin faction was thinking of making the second ballot even worse for McCarthy than the first to further humiliate him.

Jordan is at 11 votes with us in the H names so there might be something to it.

https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1610351550181826560?s=46&t=pfBB7e7yMxigqyUF_UByDg

Don't tease us with a good time

Seanchan posted...

And they cant really vote present because that would lower the threshold enough to possibly allow Jeffries to take it. God what a fucking clown show! And these idiots will (still probably) be running the House for 2 years

If only a couple more Dems had eked out their races, this would actually look dangerous for Republicans (right now, it still mainly just looks embarrassing af).

YoBlazer posted...

If only a couple more Dems had eked out their races, this would actually look dangerous for Republicans (right now, it still mainly just looks embarrassing af).

i again apologize on behalf of the state of new york. we failed this country. again.

FFDragon posted...

https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1610351550181826560?s=46&t=pfBB7e7yMxigqyUF_UByDg

Don't tease us with a good time

Oh please please please

That would be amazing

LordoftheMorons posted...

It could be dangerous for them to do that given how many votes Jeffries has!

Yeah I didnt think about this.

Republicans might be completely screwed here. If the Republican crazies never back down, and lets be honest they got into power by being crazy enough to never back down so backing down is possibly going to get them primaried, this probably ends with a democrat speaker.

Unbelievable

I dont actually know if a democrat speaker matters at all, but its still crazy

Well, this would be a lame resolution:

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1610363730050572288

LordoftheMorons posted...

Well, this would be a lame resolution:

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1610363730050572288

They better not let them off the hook like this. Do their job and actually be present for votes ffs.

LordoftheMorons posted...

Well, this would be a lame resolution:

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1610363730050572288

If I was a member of Dem leadership, my god I would skewer any Democrat who just "got bored and left." Your only job is to stay seated, say "Jeffries" every hour, and prolong the Republican's misery. Force THEIR hand, don't just give it to them. If you can't even do that, you're not doing a damn thing to earn your 180k salary (or whatever the hell it is).

Are democrats going to remind me why I dont like them again

Has the minority party ever had the Speaker before?

I imagine it would be good for Dems in terms of running committees and bringing things up for vote but wouldnt mean a damn thing for actually getting legislation passed.

Jordan at 19 votes. In S-names now. Time to see if McCarthy gets even worse in the second ballot or if it stays at 19 defections.

Seanchan posted...

Has the minority party ever had the Speaker before?

Happened in 1839 at the very least. Democrats held a majority of the house but a Whig was elected Speaker on the 11th ballot.

Waiting for the gavel again, but looks like still 19 defectors - all for Jordan. CSPAN has definitely made a mistake in their tally but it looks like the same results as the first just all the defectors consolidated this time.

I'll never understand how mccarthy of all people got to the point of potentially being speaker anyway

dude is such a limp noodle

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1610329600764026881?s=46&t=sQBswrG9PBqdxHQOGYOdIw

lmao

False claims

They're called LIES! He LIED about just about everything about himself. Enough with the euphemisms. This fucker gets a $180k salary and represents the interests of, what, 800k people? Ridiculous!

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1610374645173084164

They better. like it's literally the minimum for the job