Poll of the Day > Will Trump ever be charged?

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You mean for withholding aid money from Ukraine until they fire the prosecuter investigating the energy company his son worked for?

Maybe if he doesnt show up to the subpoena (conveniently ordered for around time of the Mid Terms) from the circus which has been the Jan 6th committee

The Dems will drag everything else on for as long as possible (how long does it take to decided whether anything incriminating was found during the raid?) as a constant reminder that Trump is a bad bad man.. probably all the way to 2024

JixHedgehog posted...

Maybe if he doesnt show up to the subpoena (conveniently ordered for around time of the Mid Terms) from the circus which has been the Jan 6th committee

The Dems will drag everything else on for as long as possible (how long does it take to decided whether anything incriminating was found during the raid?) as a constant reminder that Trump is a bad bad man.. probably all the way to 2024

Oh hey look a traitor trying to defend a fascist.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Oh hey look a traitor trying to defend a fascist.

I wonder if his signature is sarcasm?

Idk, with the 5 lawsuits going on it's hard to say. He's a slippery bastard

You can't just stage a violent coop and expect to run for president again like nothing ever happened... unless the government is totally ineffective

Bold of you to assume the rich and famous would face consequences for their actions

Certainly seems like it, with the 1/6 hearings. They straight up said they have enough, now, to pursue criminal chargers.

In all reality, there's like 10 different things at least you could charge Trump with at this point, and it's been directly said if he were an "average" citizen, he'd probably be behind bars now for his crimes. But for a country founded on the idea of throwing off kings and monarchies, the US ironically seems to like to treat the office of the Executive as almost holy.

Throw it on the piles of the endless reason the US is fucked.

He's a rich white man in America. Of course he'll never be charged.

fettster777 posted...

He's a rich white man in America. Of course he'll never be charged.

Charged? Sure.

Convicted and sentenced? That's what you're trying to say.

I legitimately wouldn't be surprised if he's convicted and sentenced to 5 hours of community service.

fettster777 posted...

He's a rich white man in America. Of course he'll never be charged.

Better than that, he's an elite. For him to face any jail time would give every news anchor a panic attack realizing it's possible to be an elite and go to jail.

We only really care what the news anchors think around here.

adjl posted...

I legitimately wouldn't be surprised if he's convicted and sentenced to 5 hours of community service.

He wouldn't even need a safety vest because he's already neon colored

Of course not.

Yellow posted...

You can't just stage a violent coop and expect to run for president again like nothing ever happened... unless the government is totally ineffective

Sadly, I think the commission is going to charge him...and subsequently prove that the government is totally ineffective by failing to convict or otherwise enacting no real penalty. Or maybe they'll know that they would only be proving their own ineffectiveness and not charge him.

He certainly SHOULD be barred from office via one of several mechanisms.

Yellow posted...

Better than that, he's an elite.

Or, even more to the point, if someone is rich, is willing to play dirty, and has a significant following they are untouchable. To use Trump's phrase, yes, he could shoot someone in the street and probably get away with it so long as his base doesn't desert him. Truly. He would make up some justification and you'd get a hung jury at best.

I believe he'll get charged but receive no meaningful punishment that would be a deterrent to others.

lolno

Current and former Presidents are above the law.

Yellow posted...

unless the government is totally ineffective

Ding ding ding!

No. Nothing ever happens to bad people.

Merrick Garland and Alvin Bragg are feckless cowards

Considering it's all a partisan stunt, anything *can* happen. The number of attempted charges so far have demonstrated a lot of imagination.

Lil_Mello posted...

I wonder if his signature is sarcasm?

I wonder if BS0's signature has any self-awareness.

Yellow posted...

You can't just stage a violent coop and expect to run for president again like nothing ever happened... unless the government is totally ineffective

...he says peddling misinformation and lies on every front, while even misspelling "coup"

There's only one word for that post: idiocy.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Certainly seems like it, with the 1/6 hearings. They straight up said they have enough, now, to pursue criminal chargers.

They also said they had enough to remove him from office before he took office. At a certain point, even the die-hard Trump critics have to acknowledge the whole thing is a sham.

fettster777 posted...

He's a rich white man in America. Of course he'll never be charged.

...he says overlooking how many rich white men WHO ACTUALLY DID STUFF have been convicted. The problem is Trump hasn't done much of anything.

Judgmenl posted...

lolno

Current and former Presidents are above the law.

Considering every president since Carter broke international law with impunity, pretty much. Obama, for instance, had the charisma of JFK and integrity of Nixon, with the bad judgment of LBJ.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Oh hey look a traitor trying to defend a fascist.

Didn't he say he's Australian?

Count_Drachma posted...

all a partisan stunt

Yeah like how Covid was all a liberal hoax rite

Count_Drachma posted...

I wonder if BS0's signature has any self-awareness.

What signature?

Honestly everything you said needs a rebuttal but your clown show is getting old to be honest.
Revelation34 posted...

Didn't he say he's Australian?

I would not know

Count_Drachma posted...

...he says peddling misinformation and lies on every front, while even misspelling "coup"

There's only one word for that post: idiocy.

Classic

The great Jan 6 misinformation, when *misinformation* had *misinformation* storm the *misinformation* and waited *misinformation* hours before telling anyone to stop trying to *misinformation*

Thanks, Obama

Lil_Mello posted...

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He's been charged several times... just needs a conviction

Count_Drachma posted...

There's only one word for everything I post: idiocy.

Wow, he's becoming self aware

Count_Drachma posted...

The problem is Trump hasn't done much of anything.

Do you believe Manson did anything wrong?

BlackScythe0 posted...

What signature?

Honestly everything you said needs a rebuttal but your clown show is getting old to be honest.

I would not know

Not your signature. I was talking about the guy defending the fascist. Their sig said something about "hoping for a peaceful transition of power."

Lil_Mello posted...

Not your signature. I was talking about the guy defending the fascist. Their sig said something about "hoping for a peaceful transition of power."

In the middle of zeus telling a bunch of lies and one opinion he accused me of having a sig and to my memory I have never had a signature on this website.

Charged? Likely.

The Mar-a-Lago raid was the crossing of the Rubicon. You do not want to become the first Attorney General in history to request a raid on a former president's home, nor the first judge to sign off on it, unless you have a *damn* good reason to do so. Garland would not have gone down this road if he didn't expect charges to come out of it.

That's without touching on his various financial misdeeds that the New York AG's office is looking into right now.

Count_Drachma posted...

Obama, for instance, had the charisma of JFK and integrity of Nixon

Odd, then, how literally zero members of his administration were ever indicted for criminal activity, which is a modern-day benchmark.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/0/0/AABDhhAAD0dU.jpg

Looks pretty squeaky-clean to me.

(Extra lulz: that chart was published before the halfway point of Trump's admin and he had already outstripped every single admin since Nixon in the number of indictments in his executive by that point).

Count_Drachma posted...

The problem is Trump hasn't done much of anything.

Shook down a foreign country by illegally withholding congressionally-appointed military aid (something that looks particularly bad given current events in Ukraine) is "nothing"? Refusing to concede an election loss, fermenting insurrection, and refusing to participate in the peaceful transition of power between administrations is "nothing"? Stealing and improperly storing classified documents, then refusing to return them and trying to hide them from investigators is "nothing"?

And that's without getting into the dozens (hundreds?) of "lesser" crimes Trump and his admin committed, from Logan Act violations to financial crimes to sexual crimes to violations of the Presidential Records Act to good old-fashioned graft. Trump was the most crooked president in the country's history and it's not even particularly close.

hungrymike posted...

You mean for withholding aid money from Ukraine until they fire the prosecuter investigating the energy company his son worked for?

I'd say you got Trump confused with Biden, but that doesn't make sense either considering...

-Biden wasn't withholding aid money from Ukraine; the US was withholding loan guarantees and Biden was merely the point man the US embassy requested (they were the ones who initially came up with the plan).
-The allegations against Burisma had nothing to do with Hunter Biden and had to do with activities that occurred before he even joined the company.
-The prosecutor Biden requested be fired, Viktor Shokin, had allowed the investigation into Burisma to go dormant and was not actively pursuing it. He was also legendarily corrupt, with several prosecutors leaving his office over allegations of shady dealings and others being caught with bribes in their possession. If you're trying to save your son and/or his company from legal peril, pushing out a corrupt prosecutor who isn't looking into the alleged crimes is probably not a winning move.
-Biden and the US were not alone in demanding Shokin's termination; the EU and Ukraine's own citizenry were similarly demanding he be given the boot, and I'm pretty sure they didn't have sons working for Burisma at the time.
-The new prosecutor who replaced Shokin immediately re-opened the investigation into Burisma, with the US's blessing. The replacement found insufficient evidence for charges. Lest you think this is evidence of more corruption, an independent probe by the EU, who were concerned that Shokin was letting the investigation go stale, came to the same conclusions.

In other words, you're full of shit.

But what about dropping off a laptop full of compromising files at a repair shop several states over and abandoning it? Surely that's a completely plausible thing that somebody would actually do and not at all the kind of conspiracy theory that would be conceived by somebody who understands nothing about computers and thinks the cop dramas they spend way too much time watching are an accurate reflection of the real world.

is any politician ever charged?

Count_Drachma posted...

They also said they had enough to remove him from office before he took office. At a certain point, even the die-hard Trump critics have to acknowledge the whole thing is a sham.

1. The 1/6 Committee didn't exist before Trump was elected, so no, "they" didn't.
2. Technically, this is true, as there really is no minimum requirement for impeachment, and any one of Trump numerous scandals would have been more enough to act on. But then we learn about the fun political culture surrounding impeachments, and why they aren't common.

Also, post on your alt, you coward.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Technically, this is true, as there really is no minimum requirement for impeachment, and any one of Trump numerous scandals would have been more enough to act on. But then we learn about the fun political culture surrounding impeachments, and why they aren't common.

See: almost the entire GOP accepting that Trump was guilty of inciting 1/6, acknowledging that it was an impeachable offence, but choosing to vote against removing him from office under the pretense of various forms of "we think he's learned his lesson" that did nothing to hide that they just voted along party lines with no regard for the truth of the matter.

If only people held this same sentiment for all the democratic leaders egging on the BLM riots. The ones that actually damaged America.

Oh cool, another Jan. 6th apologist.

Fuck off, SirPikachu.

SirPikachu posted...

If only people held this same sentiment for all the democratic leaders egging on the BLM riots. The ones that actually damaged America.

Stuff it terrorist

LMAO you nerds are so brainwashed it isn't even funny. January 6th was an actually mostly peaceful protest unlike the MULTIPLE literal fiery riots from BLM

I bet ya'll think Biden is a good president too huh? And part of the "vote blue no matter who" crowd?

adjl posted...

See: almost the entire GOP accepting that Trump was guilty of inciting 1/6, acknowledging that it was an impeachable offence, but choosing to vote against removing him from office under the pretense of various forms of "we think he's learned his lesson" that did nothing to hide that they just voted along party lines with no regard for the truth of the matter.

Of course, the underlining reasoning is simply: "We'll never do something that harms the party, perceived or otherwise." That's exactly all that American Right-wing politics is anymore, along with "If it hurts the Democratic Party, we like it."

That's it. Everything else is just so much fluff.

biden is a mediocre president and January 6th was terrible

SirPikachu posted...

January 6th was an actually mostly peaceful protest

Over 100 officers injured

SirPikachu posted...

LMAO you nerds are so brainwashed it isn't even funny. January 6th was an actually mostly peaceful protest unlike the MULTIPLE literal fiery riots from BLM

I bet ya'll think Biden is a good president too huh? And part of the "vote blue no matter who" crowd?

Trump is objectively the worst most corrupt president in US history who dedicated his entire administration to attacking the constitution. Delusional traitor, I'll fight before I let you people destroy the constitution.

Please stop feeding the obvious troll.

SirPikachu posted...

January 6th was an actually mostly peaceful protest unlike the MULTIPLE literal fiery riots from BLM

Can you even IMAGINE what the Republican reaction would have been if BLM protesters pushed into the Capitol, smashed stuff up, caused Congress to flee, and caused that much injury?. Can you imagine?? I kind of doubt you can. The right would have exploded a million times worse than Democrats did for Jan 6.

Biden is a mediocre President. He is not an inspiring leader who provides good direction for the country. I kind of doubt he could have accomplished a lot more than he has policy-wise in this environment, but the job is to provide meaning/direction to the country in addition to policy. BUT he believes in democracy. His opponent did not. That should be a 100%, no-questions-asked obvious choice. Unfortunately it's not, so we are slowly sliding towards authoritarianism and we are eventually going to have to learn the lessons of WW2 (it's really important not to allow authoritarians who divide people and praise military action to steal power) the hard way all over again. History repeats...because idiots don't remember it.

SirPikachu posted...

LMAO you nerds are so brainwashed it isn't even funny.

Then whyd you add that LMAO?

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Please stop feeding the obvious troll.

I dont think its an act, unfortunately.

wpot posted...

Can you even IMAGINE what the Republican reaction would have been if BLM protesters pushed into the Capitol, smashed stuff up, caused Congress to flee, and caused that much injury?. Can you imagine?? I kind of doubt you can. The right would have exploded a million times worse than Democrats did for Jan 6.

I imagine Pelosi and the others wouldn't have had to be calling around to various governors and military officials trying to get help because the national guard would have been called in prior to the protests even happening, you know like they did for the blm protests.