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CedarPointcp
08/31/22 5:27:10 PM
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in both, usa and worldwide. Maybe 1 of these 2 shows might be the most popular sitcom or comedy ever
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FrozenBananas
08/31/22 5:53:55 PM
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Seinfeld was bigger in its prime, near the end, but Simpsons mania was intense during the first couple years of Simpsons.

In Simpsons early days, they probably matched Seinfelds prime, but Seinfeld held its prime for much longer

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faramir77
08/31/22 6:35:07 PM
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Simpsons and it isn't even close lmao

I love Seinfeld but The Simpsons was an absolute cultural juggernaut. The amount of merchandise sold is astronomical. The very fact it's still airing new episodes after 30 years, where Seinfeld didn't last for 10, speaks for itself.

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FrozenBananas
08/31/22 6:56:53 PM
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faramir77 posted...

The very fact it's still airing new episodes after 30 years, where Seinfeld didn't last for 10, speaks for itself.

just saying, Seinfeld decided to end their show while they were as popular as theyd ever been. It was their own choice, and as they were airing their last 2+ seasons, they were pulling more average viewers than anything Simpsons ever did

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VampireCoyote
08/31/22 7:00:11 PM
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Simpson

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Nichtcrawler-X
08/31/22 7:15:26 PM
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Globally? Easily The Simpsons. More accessible.

Compare it to say Blackadder and Mr. Bean. 1 is insanely popular in the UK, but niche outside it, while the other is reasonably popular in the UK, but insanely popular outside.

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Metalsonic66
08/31/22 7:19:40 PM
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Crossing language barriers and cultural barriers

Like a Bean

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JixHedgehog
08/31/22 7:21:14 PM
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Simpsons more popular, Seinfeld definitely more consistent

Or Simpsons is pigging out at a buffet, Seinfeld is an enjoyable evening at a nice, pricey restaurant

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OhhhJa
08/31/22 7:25:52 PM
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JixHedgehog posted...
Simpsons more popular, Seinfeld definitely more consistent

Or Simpsons is pigging out at a buffet, Seinfeld is an enjoyable evening at a nice, pricey restaurant
Curb your enthusiasm is the nice, pricey restaurant. Seinfeld is the chain restaurant with a clean cut corporate interior with mediocre food
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Zareth
08/31/22 7:29:04 PM
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Seinfeld didn't go on for 30+ years

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NickMullen
08/31/22 7:30:48 PM
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Simpsons easily


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CedarPointcp
08/31/22 7:32:16 PM
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Zareth posted...
Seinfeld didn't go on for 30+ years
yeah, true. But simpsons was never #1 in the weekly nielsen most watched tv show ratings, seinfeld was for like at least a few seasons
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Dikitain
08/31/22 7:35:31 PM
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At the time, Seinfeld. Long term, Simpsons. I honestly never understood the humor of Seinfeld until years after it was canceled. Simpsons I liked the first two seasons then lost interest after.

I was more of a Married with Children guy myself. :)

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RagOnAStick
08/31/22 8:27:46 PM
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Seinfeld probably had higher ratings (in the US at least) but Simpsons obviously has a much bigger cultural hold. And I don't think that has anything to do with it having more seasons because most people think of the classic seasons anyway, which is about the same number as Seinfeld had
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OmegaM
08/31/22 9:16:33 PM
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I'm guessing The Simpsons because, while they were both funny, The Simpsons also made you care about the characters a lot more than Seinfeld did.
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Count_Drachma
08/31/22 9:42:45 PM
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Simpsons on the whole by a very wide margin.

In terms of life-action sitcoms, I'm not sure Seinfeld is even the undisputed best there, since The Office has a massive following (although I didn't find it nearly as funny)

FrozenBananas posted...
just saying, Seinfeld decided to end their show while they were as popular as theyd ever been. It was their own choice, and as they were airing their last 2+ seasons, they were pulling more average viewers than anything Simpsons ever did

iirc, wasn't the most-viewed Seinfeld stuff the finals and that was BECAUSE it was the finals?

Plus Simpsons is global. There are a lot of nations that haven't even heard of Seinfeld.

CedarPointcp posted...
yeah, true. But simpsons was never #1 in the weekly nielsen most watched tv show ratings, seinfeld was for like at least a few seasons

...you mean key demo nonsense? Simpsons was number one on multiple weeks in terms of overall viewership. Unless you're an advertiser, key demo ratings -- ie, Nielson show ratings -- don't mean dick.

For context, AEW constantly points out the fact it's #1 in the key demo... despite not even being in the top 20 for overall viewers.

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Muscles
08/31/22 9:43:53 PM
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The Simpson's easily, Seinfeld doesn't have the long lasting cultural effects that the Simpson's has

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jsb0714
08/31/22 9:46:31 PM
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Muscles posted...
The Simpson's easily, Seinfeld doesn't have the long lasting cultural effects that the Simpson's has
Simpsons has just been plodding along for 20+ years now. Not even close to what it was in its early years.
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Blightzkrieg
08/31/22 9:54:55 PM
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I can't buy Jerry Seinfeld underwear

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argonautweakend
08/31/22 10:09:32 PM
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I feel like overall it is The Simpsons. But back in the day I do feel like it was Seinfeld.
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Muscles
08/31/22 10:38:05 PM
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jsb0714 posted...
Simpsons has just been plodding along for 20+ years now. Not even close to what it was in its early years.
And still is more recognizable thanks to the ridiculous amount of merchandise out there

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Metalsonic66
08/31/22 10:48:12 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
I can't buy Jerry Seinfeld underwear
You're telling me you ain't heard about Jerry Seinfeld's line of underwear for men?

You're saying you haven't heard of JerryWear?

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JigsawTDCII
08/31/22 10:54:44 PM
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never seen a rapper get a Seinfeld face tat
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FrozenBananas
09/01/22 8:55:14 AM
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hmm Seinfeld never had movie that made 500+ mil worldwide

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KodyKeir
09/01/22 9:08:17 AM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Globally? Easily The Simpsons. More accessible.

Dikitain posted...
I honestly never understood the humor of Seinfeld until years after it was canceled.

OhhhJa posted...
Curb your enthusiasm is the nice, pricey restaurant.


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Blightzkrieg
09/01/22 12:04:34 PM
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This is for real like asking whether Sonic the Hedgehog or Punch Out is more popular

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IqarP15
09/01/22 12:28:19 PM
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Simpsons by far. Seinfeld is okay but it pertains to a particular crowd. It comes off as Jewish but that is because of Jerry himself. To me it is kinda dry humor like British comedy.

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hera
09/01/22 12:29:50 PM
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Count_Drachma posted...

iirc, wasn't the most-viewed Seinfeld stuff the finals and that was BECAUSE it was the finals?

yes

the show ended specifically because ratings and viewership was tanking

and yes, the finale did have a butt ton of watchers, but that's only because people like watching the end of something they have even a slight interest in

like I've watched the series finale of many shows despite not caring about a lot of them

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Straughan
09/01/22 1:51:41 PM
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I watched both equally if they were on, but Seinfeld was more intellectually stimulating obviously. It's the kinda show I can just watch and like every single episode.

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FrozenBananas
09/01/22 2:11:08 PM
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This is the average viewership by year of Seinfeld. Where exactly are the rating tanking

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/8/AAcYbGAADoHw.jpg

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NickMullen
09/01/22 2:35:48 PM
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yeah don't show us the whole screenshot or anything

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FrozenBananas
09/01/22 2:38:38 PM
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my phone couldnt grab it all lol heres a better one, I just took it from their Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Seinfeld_episodes

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/1/AAcYbGAADoH9.jpg

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ParanoidObsessive
09/01/22 3:19:36 PM
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faramir77 posted...
Simpsons and it isn't even close lmao

I love Seinfeld but The Simpsons was an absolute cultural juggernaut. The amount of merchandise sold is astronomical. The very fact it's still airing new episodes after 30 years, where Seinfeld didn't last for 10, speaks for itself.

I'd agree with all of this except for the very last part.

Even aside from the fact that it's waaay easier to keep an animated show chugging along in zombie form than it is to keep live-action going the same way (short of constantly replacing the entire cast the way soap operas do), there's kind of a difference between being kicked off the air because no one is watching your show anymore and deliberately walking away because you've already made a ton of money and are getting tired of doing it (and maybe don't want to get typecast for the entire rest of your career to be able to do literally nothing else - which is another way in which animated shows tend to have an edge over live-acting).

Simpsons probably should have been cancelled before it even hit 10 years, creatively speaking. At this point people watch it more out of nostalgic memory and cultural inertia than they do because it's actually worth watching (ie, the same niche Family Guy has managed to slip itself into, and arguably South Park as well). It's the television equivalent of comfort food. The vast majority of its actual socio-cultural impact happened within the first decade, and after that it's mostly been coasting on fumes.

In a lot of ways, it's not entirely dissimilar from how Seinfeld did extremely well in syndicated reruns for years after it went off the air, in spite of not making new episodes anymore. At a certain point the idea of a show becomes more important than the show itself.



FrozenBananas posted...
hmm Seinfeld never had movie that made 500+ mil worldwide

And even that was 15 years ago.

Which is kind of terrifying when you step back and think about it.

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BigOlePappy
09/01/22 3:46:20 PM
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Simpsons by a gigantic margin. Simpsons will go down as one of the biggest TV shows of all time. Seinfeld will be remembered as a popular 90s show.

You can go to any country in the world and they will know the Simpsons and be able to reference characters or episodes. Any language, continent, wealth status etc.

There are people in the states who have no idea what Seinfeld is.

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Nichtcrawler-X
09/01/22 4:28:20 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
And even that was 15 years ago.

Wait, what? It came out before I went to University?

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Metalsonic66
09/01/22 5:38:48 PM
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New Simpsons is still better than Family Guy

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FrozenBananas
09/01/22 5:49:15 PM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Wait, what? It came out before I went to University?

it came out in 2007, like 7+ years after the show started getting bad.

its still awesome though. Saw it just a couple days ago for only my 2nd time. Its great

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ParanoidObsessive
09/01/22 7:12:30 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
New Simpsons is still better than Family Guy

Yeah, but that's like saying stage 4 cancer is better than full blown AIDS.

And while Internet hipsters will deny this, during its first few seasons Family Guy was absolutely better than the Simpsons that was coming out at the same time. It wasn't until later that Family Guy started getting really terrible (just like the Simpsons did).

As a general rule of thumb, most live-action shows should never run more than 5-6 seasons, and even animated shows shouldn't run more than 10. After that point you've pretty much run out of ideas and are so burned out that you're mostly just going through the motions to cash the check, and your show is going to be more or less creatively bankrupt and soul-numbingly banal.

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Krazy_Kirby
09/02/22 2:46:55 AM
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Zareth posted...
Seinfeld didn't go on for 30+ years


Simpsons shouldn't have either

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Muscles
09/02/22 1:29:26 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
As a general rule of thumb, most live-action shows should never run more than 5-6 seasons, and even animated shows shouldn't run more than 10.
I was going to try and argue against this but really the only shows I could think of were South Park, Always Sunny, and maybe That 70's Show

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ParanoidObsessive
09/02/22 6:43:33 PM
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Muscles posted...
I was going to try and argue against this but really the only shows I could think of were South Park, Always Sunny, and maybe That 70's Show

Even South Park has gone through some very rough patches. It's gone from seasons where every episode was awesome, to seasons where most episodes were great but a couple were meh, to seasons where most episodes were meh but there was still one or two a season worth catching (maybe). But honestly, I lost interest in the show overall a looong time ago. Like before the seasons where they were making fun of Game of Thrones.

And even speaking as someone who pretty much hated That 70s Show as a whole, I think most people would agree it ran at least a few seasons longer than it ever should have.

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Muscles
09/02/22 9:10:08 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Even South Park has gone through some very rough patches. It's gone from seasons where every episode was awesome, to seasons where most episodes were great but a couple were meh, to seasons where most episodes were meh but there was still one or two a season worth catching (maybe). But honestly, I lost interest in the show overall a looong time ago. Like before the seasons where they were making fun of Game of Thrones.

And even speaking as someone who pretty much hated That 70s Show as a whole, I think most people would agree it ran at least a few seasons longer than it ever should have.
They were great for well over 10 seasons though, it didn't really start going downhill until like 16

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Metalsonic66
09/02/22 11:47:25 PM
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The newest South Park seasons have been a huge step-up, actually.

The Tegridy Farms thing definitely got worn thin though

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ReturnOfFa
09/02/22 11:51:43 PM
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I'd assume The Simpsons. Seinfeld was huge, but Simpsons was huger.

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Muscles
09/03/22 12:27:52 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
The newest South Park seasons have been a huge step-up, actually.

The Tegridy Farms thing definitely got worn thin though
I agree, but it's not as good as prime South Park either, 18-21 were by far their worst

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KodyKeir
09/03/22 10:35:23 AM
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Muscles posted...
18-21 were by far their worst

That was an interesting time as they were toying with the idea of ending the show and it led into their #cancelsouthpark period which was pretty good imo.

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