Board 8 > What is the best not-Smash game?

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Johnbobb
07/27/22 9:20:38 AM
#1:


Pollio










I've heard a bunch of names for the game subgenre: party fighter, mascot fighter, etc

In to the poll I know there's a terrible Kung Fu Panda one (that I have, of course) and an old Shonen Jump one for DS. Also probably a bunch more indie ones (Bounty Battle attempted it but apparently wasn't very good)

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KommunistKoala
07/27/22 9:24:13 AM
#2:


multiversus has been the only one that ive played out of 4 or 5 that didn't immediately make me want to go back to smash

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SHINE_GET_64
07/27/22 9:28:31 AM
#3:


Anything but Playstation All-Stars

if you voted for that please re-evaluate everything in your life

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Johnbobb
07/27/22 9:29:34 AM
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Bounty Battle was particularly disappointing because the trailer was so good
https://youtu.be/m2DEtVcSr20

There's also ANOTHER indie crossover one in the works, due for alpha release soon
https://twitter.com/FraymakersGame?t=GWEr2E6ac4i0j9HdmesqTQ&s=09

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Johnbobb
07/27/22 9:31:13 AM
#5:


SHINE_GET_64 posted...
Anything but Playstation All-Stars

if you voted for that please re-evaluate everything in your life
PlayStation All-Stars is a 10/10 get outta here

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Arti
07/27/22 9:32:52 AM
#6:


SHINE_GET_64 posted...
Anything but Playstation All-Stars

if you voted for that please re-evaluate everything in your life


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CassandraCain
07/27/22 9:32:53 AM
#7:


Jump Ultimate Stars

The only game I ever imported, sadly have no idea what happened to my copy of it.

Also haven't played any other Smash-lites.

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KommunistKoala
07/27/22 9:38:24 AM
#8:


oh right i forgot about jump ultimate stars

that was probably the best

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_stingers_
07/27/22 10:21:43 AM
#9:


It's definitely rivals but most ppl probably haven't played it

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Whiskey_Nick
07/27/22 10:26:45 AM
#10:


brawlhalla is pretty good

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paperwarior
07/27/22 10:37:33 AM
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Even while playing Multiversus I'm pretty sure it's Rivals of Aether.

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UF8
07/27/22 10:44:43 AM
#12:


Umihara Kawase BaZooKa ok not really i just wanted to say it it's rivals

speaking of side shoutout to super smash land which it was kind of an offshoot of

slap city fun too

... wait actually does stuff like Stick Fight count? i assume it's like borderline since others like Duck Game don't but still
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swirIdude
07/27/22 12:04:16 PM
#13:


Jump Ultimate Stars

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FL81
07/27/22 12:11:56 PM
#14:


Brawlhalla is the one I have the most hours in, but Rivals of Aether is the best one

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GuessMyUserName
07/27/22 12:24:00 PM
#15:


JUS easily JUS, absolutely great game

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banananor
07/27/22 2:54:14 PM
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I think it depends on what sort of pacing you like in terms of reflexes and punishability

Brawlhalla is the most fun "fast" one, and multiversus is the most fun "slow" one

But it also just came out- dunno how I'll feel in a couple months

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Johnbobb
07/27/22 3:18:40 PM
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_stingers_ posted...
It's definitely rivals but most ppl probably haven't played it
It's been on my list to check out for ages tbh

Kinda fell victim to me just not playing switch much since it never released for PlayStation

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Johnbobb
07/27/22 3:20:00 PM
#18:


Brawlout wins most improved though. It was pretty awful at first (mostly due to a useless leveling and unlock system) but it's a surprisingly solid game now

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hylianknight3
07/27/22 6:17:51 PM
#19:


Digimon Rumble Arena 2

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Bartzyx
07/27/22 8:29:46 PM
#20:


That Nickelodeon game is really bad

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KCF0107
07/27/22 8:40:05 PM
#21:


Pleasantly surprised to see so many people have played Rivals of Aether.

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HaRRicH
07/27/22 11:16:33 PM
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Having not played any of these games, what could Smash learn to do better from them?

It used to be the only game like it for like...what felt like a decade or longer. Now though, there are a lot of new takes on the genre.

Are there game elements Smash could now do better since other similar games exist and are finding their own takes on the genre?

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KommunistKoala
07/27/22 11:17:01 PM
#23:


online netcode

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Johnbobb
07/28/22 12:14:21 AM
#24:


KommunistKoala posted...
online netcode


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DeepsPraw
07/28/22 12:16:11 AM
#25:


SHINE_GET_64 posted...
Anything but Playstation All-Stars

if you voted for that please re-evaluate everything in your life
it has parappa in it, though

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Johnbobb
07/28/22 12:19:48 AM
#26:


DeepsPraw posted...
it has parappa in it, though
that's the other thing Smash could do better


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paperwarior
07/28/22 12:21:44 AM
#27:


Johnbobb posted...
that's the other thing Smash could do better
And the protagonists from Ape Escape and MediEvil. No Crash or Spyro, though.

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DeepsPraw
07/28/22 12:27:25 AM
#28:


Johnbobb posted...
that's the other thing Smash could do better
oh god, don't get me started on the terrible state of smash newcomers. There's such a deep well of fun, unique characters even if you stick entirely to first-party Nintendo.

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HaRRicH
07/28/22 12:29:49 AM
#29:


Yes, agreed, and I'm glad you're onboard to get Epona into the next Smash game.

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FL81
07/28/22 2:42:20 AM
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which is to say, I'm down to play any of you guys at some SSBU/RoA/Brawlhalla whenever ^_^

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Big_Bob
07/28/22 7:21:44 AM
#31:


Also gonna say Jump Ultimate Stars.

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Leonhart4
07/28/22 7:50:18 AM
#32:


That poor Ninja Turtles Smash clone

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Aecioo
07/28/22 8:13:45 AM
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I wish this genre would embrace better gameplay instead of relying on its characters

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_stingers_
07/28/22 8:16:38 AM
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FL81 posted...
which is to say, I'm down to play any of you guys at some SSBU/RoA/Brawlhalla whenever ^_^
We used to do biweekly smash tournaments for a couple of months. Extha ran them but I haven't seen him in awhile

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Johnbobb
07/28/22 12:30:19 PM
#35:


Part of me would love to run a tournament or something exclusively of the bad smash clones. Stuff like Kung Fu Panda: Showdown of Legendary Legends and Punchtime Explosion


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GavsEvans123
07/28/22 1:46:01 PM
#36:


I've put the most hours into PSASBR (That title is such a mouthful) so I voted for that. I haven't played Multiversus yet, but I'll give it a go at the weekend.

Given the choice, would you rather PSASBR 2 or a Sony character in Smash 6?
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Johnbobb
07/28/22 2:28:19 PM
#37:


GavsEvans123 posted...
PSASBR 2
Literally a million times this

I put all my hope into every single State of Play only to get let down


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Johnbobb
07/28/22 3:33:10 PM
#38:


Also (gonna shamelessly self promote for a second) worked on a project over the course of the last two years, initially drawing the characters from PSASBR and once that was done drawing more characters I'd anticipate for a sequel if it ever happened

https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40VIvillarose%20%23PlaystationAllStarsRound2&t=DhBVdQI7pOVOaUrSkq7CxA&s=09

Some day


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Mythiot
07/28/22 3:35:06 PM
#39:


Shrek Super Slam
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Johnbobb
07/28/22 4:06:48 PM
#40:


Mythiot posted...
Shrek Super Slam
Ok but that game was super good

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NFUN
07/28/22 7:05:25 PM
#41:


Ys vs Sora no Kiseki

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ctesjbuvf
07/28/22 7:13:57 PM
#42:


hylianknight3 posted...
Digimon Rumble Arena 2

Excellent taste.

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Johnbobb
07/29/22 4:47:09 PM
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https://www.ign.com/playlist/igneditorial/lists/platform-fighters-and-smash-likes-the-complete-playlist

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FL81
07/30/22 2:15:07 AM
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Mythiot posted...
Shrek Super Slam
I just wanted to remind you all
that this game has an actual competitive tier list
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/8/AAOGRhAADgfo.png

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MZero
07/30/22 5:13:34 AM
#45:


SHINE_GET_64 posted...
Anything but Playstation All-Stars

if you voted for that please re-evaluate everything in your life

I vote for it as it's the only one I've played and it was fun enough

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GavsEvans123
07/30/22 12:39:09 PM
#46:


It's quite sad to see Shrek and Donkey so low on the Shrek Super Slam tier list.
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Johnbobb
07/30/22 3:53:38 PM
#47:


FL81 posted...
I just wanted to remind you all
that this game has an actual competitive tier list
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/8/AAOGRhAADgfo.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/6/6/AAS3NhAADgme.png

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masterplum
07/30/22 4:33:22 PM
#48:


Aecioo posted...
I wish this genre would embrace better gameplay instead of relying on its characters

Definitely this, while I have enjoyed multiversus the little I have played it, it really feels identical to if you put those characters in smash

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Johnbobb
07/30/22 5:35:11 PM
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masterplum posted...
Definitely this, while I have enjoyed multiversus the little I have played it, it really feels identical to if you put those characters in smash
Eh, I agree to an extent, but at least this one is doing something different. The 2v2 focus with every character having things to user their allies to their advantage is really unique in the genre

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Johnbobb
07/30/22 5:37:19 PM
#50:


Part of the problem is that whenever a game in the genre comes out that does anything different from Smash (*cough cough PSASBR*) everyone just complains about it not being Smash

Watching people complain that it was both a shameless knockoff of Smash and then, in the same breath, complain that playing it exactly like Smash didn't work, was both frustrating and confounding

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