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neonreaper
07/11/22 8:39:10 PM
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Season 6 returns tonight!

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SeabassDebeste
07/11/22 8:45:23 PM
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i'm prepared for three crazy slow episodes, one insane episode, one weirdly uninteresting episode, and a solid finale that neither underwhelms nor overwhelms

hyyype

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Mr_Crispy
07/11/22 8:56:04 PM
#3:


didn't realize it was back until I was flipping through the channels and saw the breaking bad marathon.

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XIII_rocks
07/11/22 9:00:19 PM
#4:


Let's goooo

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_stingers_
07/11/22 9:04:22 PM
#5:


What was the intro I missed it

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_stingers_
07/11/22 9:21:27 PM
#6:


holy shit im literally shaking

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_stingers_
07/11/22 9:21:39 PM
#7:


this is the most stressful episode of tv ever made and its not even close

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XIII_rocks
07/11/22 9:22:20 PM
#8:


_stingers_ posted...
What was the intro I missed it

Shoes in the ocean, Howard's car parked on the beach

further episode spoilers

Lalo must have a bigger plan here. He must know this has no chance of working? It's insane to expect random lawyer to just off Gus Fring

Let's see I guess

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XIII_rocks
07/11/22 9:23:33 PM
#9:


but yes weird plan or not it's insanely stressful

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Ok yeah that's more like it

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_stingers_
07/11/22 9:31:21 PM
#10:


we know Gus doesn't die but literally everything else is up in the air. Gus dying to Kim would be terrible writing anyway even if we didn't know he lived so that basically doesn't matter. This is just a masterclass in creating the most stressful situation possible lol

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_stingers_
07/11/22 9:32:12 PM
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kim telling Gus that Jimmy talked Lalo out of something made him so damn suspicious lol. I really hope Kim doesn't die here :(

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XIII_rocks
07/11/22 9:50:34 PM
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fuck me

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neonreaper
07/11/22 9:52:16 PM
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And theres still like 15 minutes left or something. Jesus.

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_stingers_
07/11/22 10:08:20 PM
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I can't believe they're gonna end it like that man I'm going to cry

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XIII_rocks
07/11/22 10:09:34 PM
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Howard getting buried in there is devastating

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_stingers_
07/11/22 10:15:36 PM
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It's incredibly devastating. Man deserves none of that

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SeabassDebeste
07/12/22 11:15:59 AM
#17:


happy lalo finally has bit the dust. super-enjoyable character but there was nothing left for him

i'm even more excited now because this means we have a clean slate for the final few episodes before we get into post-BB territory. next episode is almost certainly going to feature a time-jump and we'll finally see BB-era saul.

that was a really fun chess match between lalo and gus. it wasn't paced perfectly and went a little predictably, but the final episode's climax was still very enjoyable

optimistic about how the rest of this season goes!

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XIII_rocks
07/12/22 1:03:25 PM
#18:


Rhea Seehorn finally got her emmy nom.

4 or 5 years late but whatever.

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SeabassDebeste
07/12/22 3:46:43 PM
#19:


lmao tony dalton interview

You mentioned that a villain has to die, but is there some honor in knowing you were killed by another legendary villain in Gus Fring?

I wouldnt have it any other way. If it wouldve been a henchman, I wouldve been like, You motherfuckers, you killed me with a henchman?! But it was Gus Fring, man. Also, Giancarlo is one of the greatest guys, and I love him. So when we did that scene and Im dying and covered in blood, Vince kept saying, More blood, more blood, and I remember turning around like, Vince Gilligan, you are a sick man. This is way too much blood. And Giancarlo went, This is so cool and its such an honor to do this with you. I was like, Are you kidding me, man? Its an honor to do this with you!


link to article: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/07/better-call-saul-tony-dalton-lalo-dies-interview

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HaRRicH
07/14/22 1:27:48 AM
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Kim pointing to Gus's body double was hilarious in an otherwise-deeply grim episode.

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MartinFF7
07/14/22 1:55:09 AM
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XIII_rocks posted...
Rhea Seehorn finally got her emmy nom.

4 or 5 years late but whatever.

Also in the Supporting Actress rather than Lead Actress category?

I understand that's to give her a better shot at being nominated (and ideally winning), but frankly...
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_stingers_
07/14/22 7:16:21 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
How? Prequel quality is always capped, because you already know who lives and who dies. Or at least who is a threat to be killed.

Kim dying is the only way they can end this now.
This was written 20 min into the episode. Literally anything could've happened in those first 20 minutes. I guess besides Saul dying, but who cares. It was phenomenal. there was no consideration of Gus getting shot even if you hadn't seen breaking bad because of how extensive his security detail was. We knew that he would never answer the door personally so I don't think having seen breaking bad would take away from that at all.

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XIII_rocks
07/14/22 7:22:36 AM
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Yeah like I said at the time it would have been crazy dumb if that had been Lalo's plan.

MartinFF7 posted...
Also in the Supporting Actress rather than Lead Actress category?

I understand that's to give her a better shot at being nominated (and ideally winning), but frankly...

Supporting

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MartinFF7
07/14/22 9:22:58 AM
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yeah but I mean, she's clearly the Lead Actress on the show so that's the category she should be in
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XIII_rocks
07/14/22 9:36:09 AM
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Oh yeah I'd have been happy with either, but whatever

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SeabassDebeste
07/14/22 11:04:22 AM
#27:


i actually wasn't crazy about rhea's performance this episode. she's played bottled-up, subtle pain and nervous energy so well, but something about the explicit panic and blustering... didn't land quite as well. i tend to think the same about odenkirk in general too.

that said she's very obviously a lead actress.

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HaRRicH
07/15/22 7:30:22 PM
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A thought: this is the most blackmailable position Kim has been in before. She and Jimmy are married, Schweikart only had suspicions...but Gus and Mike now have Kim on-camera with her intent to kill at Gus's door. It's not that we expect them to go through the courts on her, but does Kim know that? Maybe with Mike, but with Gus? She also has the most to lose with such a video being released from their security footage.

I don't know where that thread of thought leads entirely -- does Gus coerce her away or coerce her to work for him, does she live there knowing that exists or does she get herself disappeared because of it, etc. -- but it now seems like an avenue for power over Kim.

I'm also not sure that Kim's reason for going there ready to kill him will be considered...acceptable.

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_stingers_
07/15/22 10:25:04 PM
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I kind of doubt that Gus and Kim will interact at all past this. Gus was really only concerned with Lalo, Kim was a small fry. She might be mildly important in the legal world, but Gus is involved with much bigger players. To him, Kim isn't worth thinking about.

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foolm0r0n
07/17/22 12:05:06 AM
#30:


oh shit

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SeabassDebeste
07/17/22 12:25:27 AM
#31:


also threatening to take things to the cops doesn't really seem up gus's alley but i guess i could be wrong

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XIII_rocks
07/18/22 11:51:15 PM
#32:


Oh my god that fucking hurt

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Menji
07/19/22 3:44:49 AM
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Kim was ruthless to Howard's wife, basically putting the blame on her for being an absentee wife and not noticing.

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SeabassDebeste
07/19/22 9:03:39 AM
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man, that episode was fucking amazing.

i do want to know if this is the relationship between mike and gus when BB begins. mike very clearly has had a lot of issues with gus recently. but then, mike's comments to nacho's dad may imply that he's fully buying into gus as his man, because the salamancas are the real evil?

probably could have done without gus's weird flirting scene

was beginning to think that the timeskip wasn't going to happen this episode, but goddamn.

saul parking in the handicap spot might have been legitimately my favorite moment of the episode

probably my favorite episode of the season so far

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ChichiriMuyo
07/19/22 9:05:41 AM
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Oh yeah, she was savage. But it was the last threat to her scheme, and she followed through with eliminating any suspicion on her.

Also for years now I've watched so many people assume she must die and always asked myself "why?" Nothing in BB made anyone think Saul was a widower... no, it just makes sense that she just stopped having fun and peaced out. Spin off of a spin off anyone?

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_stingers_
07/19/22 9:23:33 AM
#36:


Jesus my heart can't handle this

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_stingers_
07/19/22 9:24:00 AM
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At least Rhea is a shoehorn for her Emmy right? They stuck her in supporting actress to guarantee it for her I figure

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SeabassDebeste
07/19/22 9:29:16 AM
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_stingers_ posted...
At least Rhea is a shoehorn for her Emmy right? They stuck her in supporting actress to guarantee it for her I figure

niiiiiice

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ChichiriMuyo
07/19/22 9:29:22 AM
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She should be, but who knows. I think she should have had one two seasons ago.

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XIII_rocks
07/19/22 12:10:16 PM
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She could and should have won it every year apart from season 1

That said I'm a huge fan of Julia Garner so I don't begrudge her winning that at all

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HaRRicH
07/19/22 7:07:27 PM
#41:


This episode hurts a whole lot.

"What's done can be undone" was said as Saul stood over where Howard died. Geez.

Despite that, "I'm sorry, my Spanish...ju-judecia...justice" is one of the funniest lines of the season.

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ChichiriMuyo
07/20/22 4:36:29 AM
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XIII_rocks posted...
She could and should have won it every year apart from season 1

That said I'm a huge fan of Julia Garner so I don't begrudge her winning that at all
I dunno... Season 2 she still wasn't that strong of a character and would have had to go up against Dame Maggie Smith's dowager countess from Downton Abbey and I'm not buying her winning that soon. Season 3 is also questionable due to its air date. The show started its third season before the cut off but finished after so either she's up against Ann Dowd (Aunt Lydia from Handmaid's Tale) which she could win or she's up against Thandiwe Newtown (Maeve, season 2 of Westworld) which she should not win. Hell, to even win for seasons 4 or 5 she would need to beat Julia Garner (Ruth, Ozark) and while I could see her taking it from Julia once, I don't think she could manage it twice. Even though the show ended up going off the rails in the last two seasons she was never not outstanding as Ruth.

She's good. Very Good. But to take it all of those years? I don't believe she deserved it all of them. But she should have earned at least one by now!

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Mega_Mana
07/20/22 12:38:13 PM
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Reading the Mistborn books right now, and now hearing one of the character's voices (||Clubs||) as Mike Ehrmantraut has made it twenty times better.

I don't know if applying Mike far and wide for everyone would work out, but here, being blunt and matter-of-fact and crabby seeming at all times? Yes.

To the episode itself, ||it's amazing all around. One of the things that really popped out is just... how much things changed. We saw the Goodman & Associates sign being lifted up only to be a completely different sign cutting back. The new decal on the door was different. Just so much effort and bit-by-bit coming together of everything only for Jimmy's world to be completely shattered and fall into the void, a black hole where everything is sucked away and we wake up years later with Saul as he exists in Breaking Bad. Jimmy's life has no more meaning, and therefore everything from Kim leaving on has no meaning.||

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SeabassDebeste
07/20/22 1:08:58 PM
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just FYI @Mega_Mana, spoiler tag is done with HTML here, not bars like in discord

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Mega_Mana
07/21/22 8:20:19 AM
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It's been a while since I've posted and not lurked, and I was on two hours of sleep yesterday =P

Reading the Mistborn books right now, and now hearing one of the character's voices (Clubs) as Mike Ehrmantraut has made it twenty times better.

I don't know if applying Mike far and wide for everyone would work out, but here, being blunt and matter-of-fact and crabby seeming at all times? Yes.

To the episode itself, it's amazing all around. One of the things that really popped out is just... how much things changed. We saw the Goodman & Associates sign being lifted up only to be a completely different sign cutting back. The new decal on the door was different. Just so much effort and bit-by-bit coming together of everything only for Jimmy's world to be completely s***tered and fall into the void, a black hole where everything is sucked away and we wake up years later with Saul as he exists in Breaking Bad. Jimmy's life has no more meaning, and therefore everything from Kim leaving on has no meaning.

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_stingers_
07/21/22 10:25:32 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I dont get the wine culture at all.
Basically confirming Gus is gay as well as just giving us insight as to how he won't let his guard down for a second because him getting revenge against the Salamanca's is more important to him than anything else

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Seanchan
07/21/22 2:07:54 PM
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Sorry are you talking about wine or whiskey?

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foolm0r0n
07/23/22 2:01:41 AM
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SeabassDebeste posted...
probably could have done without gus's weird flirting scene
No way. It showed how he chose the game over the rest of his life. Or rather how he doesn't have a choice but to play the game. Saul couldn't choose either, but Kim could. Super relevant to that episode.

Also I read something about him planning the Salud assassination there. Since he was given an open drink, which has a blood iron flavor, and just recently saw Eladio drinking from an open container (sangue por sangue). So it was essentially Gus' garden state style call to action.


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