Board 8 > Rank the Tracks Week 70: Guns N Roses' Appetite for Destruction (+White Stripes)

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CasanovaZelos
07/03/22 10:53:54 AM
#1:


What album should we cover for jcgamer107's week?



Previous results can be seen here:
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks

The rules:
1. Listen to the album in full
2. Rank every track on the album
3. For the results, there will be a curve at the top of each list; two additional points between #1 and #2, and one additional point for the next two ranks. This way, the songs that really stick out to someone get an edge that is not immediately negated by someone else putting it lower. In the case of Demon Days, someone's 15th track will get 1 point, 14th 2 points, 4th 12 points, 3rd 14 points, 2nd 16 points, and 1st 19 points. For albums with greater than 15 tracks, everything ranked below #15 will be given 0 points and the scale for the top 15 will be the same as a 15-track album. For albums with more than 20 tracks, you only have to list your top 15 (with 16-20, I still like having the average rank listed)
4. If you want to include comments for individual songs, I will compile them in the results
5. The results will be posted at the beginning of the next topic
6. The deadline to vote is Sunday, July 10 at 8:00 AM EST - though if you are for whatever reason listening to the album around that time, just say so in the topic and I can delay a bit
7. You can sign up to be added to the user cycle - the next person on the list will choose 3 albums which the other users will vote on for the next topic.
7a. To ensure people are being given an actual choice, the three nominated albums must be by different artists. You can otherwise stick to a similar sound or era.
7b. The tiebreaker for these polls will be whichever is listed first in the poll options - make sure to deliver the results in order of your own preference (which will hopefully have the added benefit of influencing people toward your first choice if they can't decide).

Guns n Roses - Appetite for Destruction track list:
1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr. Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12. Rocket Queen

User Cycle:
7/10: neonreaper (Faith No More - Angel Dust)
7/17: Great_Paul (Avenged Sevenfold - Avenged Sevenfold)
7/24: jcgamer107
7/31: ChichiriMuyo
8/7: BlueCrystalTear
8/14: MetalmindStats
8/21: HBJDubs
8/28: Raetsel_Lapin
9/4: TheArkOfTurus
9/11: Steiner
9/18: Snake5555555555
9/25: Jesse_Custer
10/2: ZaziGuado
10/9: firefdr
10/16: Johnbobb
10/23: VeryInsane
10/30: CasanovaZelos
11/6: Seanchan
11/13: Giggsalot
11/20: RyoCaliente
11/27: darkx

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CasanovaZelos
07/03/22 10:56:32 AM
#2:


The White Stripes - Elephant results

The participants sorted by deviation from final results:
neonreaper (22)
BlueCrystalTear (26)
VeryInsane (28)
CasanovaZelos (30)
Seanchan (30)
HBJDubs (36)
Johnbobb (38)
RyoCaliente (40)
jcgamer107 (42)
MetalmindStats (56)
Raetsel_Lapin (84)

General Album Comments

CasanovaZelos: Not usually the biggest fan of guitar rock, but Jack White is just that outstanding to have me regularly return to this album. "Seven Nation Army" is the obvious standout, but half of these could have been hit singles.

RyoCaliente: Maybe I do like Icky Thump better

Raetsel_Lapin: If an album has at least two songs that I would rank a 6/10, then I consider it to have been worth my time. That's the level where I'm willing to say I liked a song without additional caveats and if I geniunely liked at least two tracks, then I got something positive out of the experience. "Elephant" more than passes this test with three songs I think I'd say I liked, but it also has a lot of songs that I just do not care about While there are no songs I hated, I think I'm just not a fan of Jack White in general. I'm not going to take an aggressive "grr, argh, I never want to hear him again" stance (whenever I make a ludicrous claim like that, someone comes along and finds a song from an artist I allegedly hate which I absolutely love, so I've learned my lesson about completely dismissing people), but it's likely not a coincidence that my top two songs from the album include the one song performed by Meg & the one song done in a completely different style

While I dislike most of the album, it is notable that it does include at least some songs that are different enough experiences that I can say it's worth giving a listen even if you're not a fan in general, as it might offer a few surprises. It's also an oddly easy ranking; while I can't say it's an overwhelmingly diverse set of tracks, I find they all left a distinct enough impression that they were easy to score without falling into the "these songs are all so similar in quality that they're hard to rank" trap several other albums fall into.

VeryInsane: Personally prefer most of the other white stripes albums but this one isnt bad.

Seanchan: I came into this week expecting I'd really like this album, which kinda made no sense because I never dove into The White Stripes back during their peak. After 3 listens, it confirmed that I was right not to have gotten into them. I think the biggest thing is that I'm just not a big fan of Jack's vocals. That isn't to say this is a bad album, just that it's not really for me. This one is squarely not the realm of "I'd listen to my top few songs again but not the full album".

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CasanovaZelos
07/03/22 11:02:23 AM
#3:


Elephant track ranking

14. I Want to Be the Boy to Warm Your Mother's Heart (Track #6)
Score: 29 (Average Rank: 12.36/14)
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#10)
Biggest Detractor(s): Johnbobb, VeryInsane (#14)

jcgamer107: Decent piano

BlueCrystalTear: Forgot all but the title two songs later

13. You've Got Her in Your Pocket (Track #7)
Score: 48 (Average Rank: 10.73/14)
Biggest Fan(s): BlueCrystalTear (#3)
Biggest Detractor(s): RyoCaliente, neonreaper, MetalmindStats (#14)

jcgamer107: Watched Jack perform this and get kind of emotional - the lyrics hit for sure

BlueCrystalTear: I can feel what Jack's feeling through his voice.

12. Little Acorns (Track #10)
Score: 62 (Average Rank: 9.36/14)
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin, jcgamer107, Johnbobb (#5)
Biggest Detractor(s): BlueCrystalTear, Seanchan (#14)

jcgamer107: Love the piano that comes in under Mort Crim's reading. Classic weird Jack White vocals.

BlueCrystalTear: That sound clip makes me think I'm listening to an advertisement, not music. The addition doesn't work for me... and something had to be last on an album I enjoyed.

11. The Air Near My Fingers (Track #12)
Score: 65 (Average Rank: 9.09/14)
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#4)
Biggest Detractor(s): neonreaper (#13) jcgamer107: Cool synth riff

10. Well It's True That We Love One Another (Track #14)
Score: 69 (Average Rank: 9.18/14)
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): HBJDubs, jcgamer107 (#14)

Raetsel_Lapin: An homage to The Mama's and The Papa's 60's folk music. I don't know that I've mentioned it in this series, but I was raised on an oldies station that focused on the 50's and 60's, so I actually have a lot of nostalgia for songs that are done in this style. It's also wonderfully charming and I had a smile on my face the entire time. It's still not a song that I really love, but it's a jolly good time and a throwback to an era of music that doesn't see much play these days.

jcgamer107: I don't hate this, but it feels out of place and isn't really as charming as they probably thought it would be when making it. I also still don't really know who Holly Golightly is (aside from Audrey Hepburn's character in Breakfast at Tiffany's).

BlueCrystalTear: I found this wholesome the first time (ranked it #5 on first listen), alright the second, and a bit weird on the third. It's good when you don't expect it and then doesn't work on repeated listens. Especially realizing that Holly is an NPC.

MetalmindStats: Perhaps this shouldn't work at all, especially as the closer, yet it totally works for me, especially as the closer.

9. Hypnotize (Track #11)
Score: 78 (Average Rank: 8/14)
Biggest Fan(s): RyoCaliente (#3)
Biggest Detractor(s): CasanovaZelos (#14)

jcgamer107: A fun, catchy little jam. Very danceable.

8. I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself (Track #4)
Score: 84 (Average Rank: 7.36/14)
Biggest Fan(s): CasanovaZelos (#4)
Biggest Detractor(s): HBJDubs, BlueCrystalTear (#11)

jcgamer107: White Stripes covers of classic songs are pretty much always good

BlueCrystalTear: It's a breakup song, not being confused about life, so not feeling it right now. The guitar can be a little much for what the song is going for thematically.

7. There's No Home for You Here (Track #3)
Score: 97 (Average Rank: 6.64/14)
Biggest Fan(s): RyoCaliente, MetalmindStats (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): VeryInsane (#13)

Raetsel_Lapin: I think I like this song, but I'd like to listen to it a few more times on different weeks before committing to that statement. While it seems like something I should dislike on paper--the chorus is certainly the definition of the repetition I condemn at every possible opportunity--but I actually find this rather pleasing. The snarky bitterness of the lyrics is something I find incredibly appealing right now.

jcgamer107: Epic use of the octave pedal once again. You know sometimes I think the character singing may be in the wrong here....

6. In the Cold, Cold Night (Track #5)
Score: 98 (Average Rank: 6.64/14)
Biggest Fan(s): MetalmindStats (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): jcgamer107 (#13)

Raetsel_Lapin: This album could use more Meg White to be quite honest. ...Honestly, most albums would probably benefit from her appearance. Don't have a lot to say here; I like the way her voice sounds and I dig the general feel of this track. It's one of those "I like this and have no desire to elaborate any further" songs.

jcgamer107: It's cool that Meg gets to sing now and again. It's also cool that she doesn't sing *too* often >_>

Johnbobb: Meg needs to get more chances to vocalize

BlueCrystalTear: Meg's voice is a welcome a change of pace - her + the simple melody make this a standout.

MetalmindStats: I love that incessantly lurking organ, which paints a persistent picture in concert with Meg's limited yet effective vocals and the occasional guitar (I think) contribution.

5. Black Math (Track #2)
Score: 109 (Average Rank: 5.91/14)
Biggest Fan(s): jcgamer107 (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#11)

jcgamer107: The sick-nastiest chugging opening guitar riff, with a phat tempo change at the bridge and a solo that comes at you like a bat out of hell. I'm glad Jack is self-aware about which of his songs are the most bad-ass - he's played this almost every time I've seen him live.

BlueCrystalTear: Love the guitar, but I'm not sure what to make of this song. It grew on me with each listen despite feeling caught between the 60s and the 00s.

4. The Hardest Button to Button (Track #9)
Score: 111 (Average Rank: 5.55/14)
Biggest Fan(s): CasanovaZelos, HBJDubs, Seanchan (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#14)

jcgamer107: One of the coolest music videos ever. My old band covered this at a Detroit show ten years ago and it was the most fun.

BlueCrystalTear: I can get Raetsel's "This song's just six words long" complaint. But the beat is killer, and the repetition is only at the end. It's a banger with no meaningful purpose other than being a banger. And that's why it's fun for me.

3. Girl, You Have No Faith in Medicine (Track #13)
Score: 123 (Average Rank: 4.64/14)
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): neonreaper (#8)

jcgamer107: A hidden gem toward the end of the album - I swear I forget it's even on there half the time I listen to it through in order, but it's such a good jam. The bit near the end when Jack just leaves dead air where the last line of the verse should be cracks me up.

2. Ball and Biscuit (Track #8)
Score: 124 (Average Rank: 5.27/14)
Biggest Fan(s): RyoCaliente, VeryInsane, neonreaper (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#13)

jcgamer107: It's quite possible that this is my 3rd-favorite track, but it's a fact that (irl) Jack White is a 7th son

BlueCrystalTear: Epic. Just epic. I don't think it feels too long, but that's me after three listens.

1. Seven Nation Army (Track #1)
Score: 135 (Average Rank: 4.27/14)
Biggest Fan(s): CasanovaZelos, HBJDubs, BlueCrystalTear, Seanchan (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#12)

jcgamer107: A fine song that will be chanted at sporting events until the end of time

Johnbobb: Seven Nation Army is a great song. It is also by far White Stripes' most overrated song

BlueCrystalTear: I mean, it's iconic for a reason. The killer riff. The general unease.

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BlueCrystalTear
07/03/22 11:10:49 AM
#4:


I'm confused as to why JC would put up another Jack White album so quickly. Having just done one, as much as I enjoyed it, is the only reason I'm not voting for it.

Anyway, I'll need to do a quick listen or two to this awesome classic that I've heard in full several times before. Having an easy week will allow me to finalize my nominations since my poll will be run in two weeks (I have 2/3 finalized anyway).

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CasanovaZelos
07/03/22 11:17:15 AM
#5:


There was a question of outliers in the previous topic - I decided to check what would have happened if we removed Raetsel's list, because I think it's informative:

  1. Seven Nation Army (change: 0)
  2. Ball and Biscuit (0)
  3. Girl, You Have No Faith in Medicine (0)
  4. The Hardest Button to Button (0)
  5. Black Math (0)
  6. There's No Home for You Here (up 1)
  7. In the Cold, Cold Night (down 1)
  8. I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself (0)
  9. Hypnotize (0)
  10. The Air Near My Fingers (up 1)
  11. Little Acorns (up 1)
  12. Well It's True That We Love One Another (down 2)
  13. You've Got Her in Your Pocket (0)
  14. I Want to Be The Boy to Warm Your Mother's Heart (0)


As you can see, the changes are rather minimal, and all of them involve songs that Raetsel had in relatively close positions to each other - the only other notable element I noticed is Raetsel's vote almost but not quite pushing Girl You Have No Faith in Medicine over Ball and Biscuit. Essentially, the fact that Raetsel's overall list looks like an exact opposite of everyone else's means that she is largely ranking the same clusters of songs relative to one another. The overall averages end up closer together, but that doesn't mean much.

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Raetsel_Lapin
07/03/22 11:20:46 AM
#6:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
I'm confused as to why JC would put up another Jack White album so quickly.

I've obviously never heard the album before, but I can see the value in judging someone's solo work while the group's album is still fresh in everyone's minds.

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plasmabeam
07/03/22 11:24:54 AM
#7:


My favorite album of all-time. With an exception of "Anything Goes," every song is an absolute banger.

1. Welcome to the Jungle
Overplayed to hell and back, sure. But the first time I really heard this song during a commercial for GTA San Andreas, it ripped my 14-year-old brain apart and changed my life. Slash's intro, Axl's intensity, the sheer electricity this track carries...it's a miracle this thing exists.

2. Nightrain
Wild and endlessly fun. I don't drink, but this song helps me understand why so many people do.

3. My Michelle
The main riff might be my favorite from any GN'R song. Or from any song, period.

4. Rocket Queen
Absolutely sleazy bass intro. Love the way this song gets charged up before ending bittersweetly. Perfect way to close out the album.

5. Mr. Brownstone
Catchy as hell, and I love how this and "It's So Easy" balance out the album's energy.

6. It's So Easy
That bass intro! This song is raw and nasty, and the infamous "Why don't you just...fuck off!" lyric always gives me the urge to thrust my middle finger in the air.

7. Paradise City
An absolute stomper. From the moment the whistle blows, this one is outta control. Kinda wish they had trimmed it down a bit (the chorus repeats too much), but overall it's a classic.

8. Sweet Child O' Mine
I'm not big on love songs, but The Solo and the "Where do we go now?" outro are excellent.

9. Out Ta Get Me
Favorite lyric on the entire album: "Sometimes it's easy to forget where you're going / sometimes it's harder to leave."

10. Think About You
Grossly underrated. I'll never understand why this one never got more radio play. It's catchy with great guitar work. The outro is chilling and probably my favorite part.

11. You're Crazy
Overshadowed by the GN'R Lies version. Still a great high-energy song.

12. Anything Goes
The closest thing to filler on Appetite. They should've gone with the Hollywood Rose version, which has a little more meat to it. I never liked that the Appetite version had like two verses and a never-ending chorus to close out the song.

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BlueCrystalTear
07/03/22 11:24:58 AM
#8:


CasanovaZelos posted...
As you can see, the changes are rather minimal, and all of them involve songs that Raetsel had in relatively close positions to each other - the only other notable element I noticed is Raetsel's vote almost but not quite pushing Girl You Have No Faith in Medicine over Ball and Biscuit. Essentially, the fact that Raetsel's overall list looks like an exact opposite of everyone else's means that she is largely ranking the same clusters of songs relative to one another. The overall averages end up closer together, but that doesn't mean much.
This is fascinating. Data really is beautiful, isn't it? So we won't need to factor in outliers, really. It's good to know. My vote for "You've Got Her in Your Pocket" was kind of an outlier itself but it was really just that one.

Raetsel_Lapin posted...
I've obviously never heard the album before, but I can see the value in judging someone's solo work while the group's album is still fresh in everyone's minds.
White Stripes is 90% Jack White though. He wrote all the songs by himself (save for the cover) and sung most of them. He said Meg's apathy was why they drifted apart. I think that's just how she is.

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CasanovaZelos
07/03/22 11:34:19 AM
#9:


Of the several 80s hard rock albums I know, this feels like an obvious best - the problem being, I don't particularly like hard rock. I can't deny the talent on display, but it's also very much not my thing.

My ranking:
Sweet Child O' Mine (#2691 all-time)
Welcome to the Jungle
Mr. Brownstone
Paradise City
It's So Easy
Rocket Queen
Out Ta Get Me
Nightrain
My Michelle
You're Crazy
Think About You
Anything Goes

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MZero
07/03/22 11:39:56 AM
#10:


hey it's an album I've listen to all the way through probably 100 times!

I could probably rank them from memory but I'll give it another listen first

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Raetsel_Lapin
07/03/22 11:41:09 AM
#11:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
White Stripes is 90% Jack White though.

Fair enough. I can't speak to how similar or dissimilar his solo work may be to have a valid opinion on the matter. Merely saying I can at least imagine artists where quickly comparing and contrasting albums could be beneficial, even if this is not such a case.

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Johnbobb
07/03/22 12:19:54 PM
#12:


Man I was really hoping Seven Nation Army wouldn't take that one. I mean, I thought it would, and again it's a great song, but it just doesn't match some of the other underrated hits on that album

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CasanovaZelos
07/03/22 12:20:01 PM
#13:


Giggsalot originally had Portishead's debut as a nomination until I pointed out how close it would have been to Third - that one could have been fun to do back-to-back, just because it's an entirely different sound.

Just compare these to something like Machine Gun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ylDDs3mdJE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un8EW82GwKc

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LiquidOshawott
07/03/22 12:31:17 PM
#14:


Dummy is great

I have a feeling this next month isnt gonna be for me at all

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jcgamer107
07/03/22 3:26:10 PM
#15:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
I'm confused as to why JC would put up another Jack White album so quickly. Having just done one, as much as I enjoyed it, is the only reason I'm not voting for it.
The album just came out in April and I was pretty set on including it in my 3 about a month or two ago - then Elephant happened to win. Thought it'd be cool to include an album from this year.

Also, to me it's a pretty different style from White Stripes - way more going on - but I get if someone doesn't like/is sick of Jack's style generally

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MetalmindStats
07/03/22 9:32:35 PM
#16:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Like Metalmind did for two songs above.
Old topic, but to be fair, I didn't actually explain my two biggest outliers, even knowing beforehand that Ball and Biscuit would top that list. I personally find it noticeably harder and a lot less fun to write about songs that I dislike relative to others than songs that I like disproportionately. That's partly because it's really difficult for me to outright dislike a song I've heard three times on different days, but I also worry that an exception (none of which were on Elephant, to be clear) would make for a thin line between song critique and implied opinion criticism. All this is to say that I'll personally (with no bearing on anyone else) try to proffer a few song write-ups a week from next week on - not this week because as I mentioned last topic, I'll be busy for most of it.

I am not currently busy, though, so here's the answer to a question I found in our archives while preparing my posts last week and got curious about myself:

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Rank the Tracks Albums by Original Nominator, So Far
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Note: Albums before the bars (|) are those nominated and sufficiently supported in the first six weeks, while albums after the bars are those chosen via user-select polls.

Seanchan (5 | 2): Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix; The Beatles - Abbey Road; Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell; The Killers - Hot Fuss; Billy Joel - The Stranger | Dua Lipa - Future Nostalgia; blink-182 - Enema of the State

CasanovaZelos (4 | 2): Nirvana - Nevermind; LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver; Fiona Apple - Fetch the Bolt Cutters; The Knife - Silent Shout | Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes; Portishead - Third

ZaziGuado (3 | 2): Weezer - Weezer (The Blue Album); Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy; Air - Moon Safari | Lorde - Melodrama; Taylor Swift - Folklore

Johnbobb (3 | 2): Pink Floyd - The Wall; Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers); The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced | Soundgarden - Superunknown; Mos Def - Black on Both Sides

VeryInsane (3 | 2): Mastodon - Crack the Skye; Fleetwood Mac - Rumours; Pixies - Doolittle | The Velvet Underground and Nico - The Velvet Underground and Nico; Japanese Breakfast - Jubilee

Jesse_Custer (3* | 2): Gorillaz - Demon Days*; U2 - Achtung Baby; Radiohead - OK Computer | Coeur de pirate - Roses; Eagles - Hotel California

SpikeSetsFire (3 | 1): Spice Girls - Spice; The Avalanches - Since I Left You; Moby - Play | Supertramp - Breakfast in America

TheArkOfTurus (2 | 2): Janelle Monae - The ArchAndroid; Iron Maiden - Powerslave | Rush - Moving Pictures; Metallica - Master of Puppets

Snake5555555555 (2 | 2): Rancid - And Out Come the Wolves; Taylor Swift - Speak Now | Brand New - The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me; Black Marble - It's Immaterial

Giggsalot (2 | 2): Massive Attack - Mezzanine; OutKast - Aquemini | Tom Waits - Rain Dogs; Love - Forever Changes

jcgamer107 (1 | 1): Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five | Miracle Musical - Hawaii: Part II

MetalmindStats (0 | 2): none | Tears for Fears - The Hurting; Peter Gabriel - So

RyoCaliente (0 | 2): none | Bloc Party - Silent Alarm; The White Stripes - Elephant

darkx (0 | 2): none | The Beatles - Rubber Soul; Guns N Roses - Appetite for Destruction

neonreaper (0 | 2): none | Opeth - Damnation; Faith No More - Angel Dust

Great_Paul (0 | 2): none | System of a Down - Toxicity; Avenged Sevenfold - Avenged Sevenfold

ZeroSignal620 (1 | 0): Alice in Chains - Dirt | none

StartTheMachine (1 | 0): Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d. city | none

TomNook (1 | 0): Hamilton | none

MoogleKupo141 (1 | 0): The Strokes - Is This It | none

Steiner (1 | 0): Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine | none

Seginustemple (1 | 0): Steely Dan - Can't Buy a Thrill | none

ChichiriMuyo (0 | 1): none | VAST - Visual Audio Sensory Theater

BlueCrystalTear (0 | 1): none | Phil Collins - Face Value

HBJDubs (0 | 1): none | Dream Theater - Images and Words

firefdr (0 | 1): none | Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory

Endnotes: *Jesse_Custer was the first user to nominate Gorillaz in the original iteration of this series; as this wasn't a proper nomination, I disfavored them for tiebreaking purposes. I broke all other ties via the week we covered each user's last album, favoring older weeks. Also, all artist/album names are as listed on our B8 wiki page, except for correcting the Bloc Party error.

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CasanovaZelos
07/04/22 1:02:38 PM
#17:


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BlueCrystalTear
07/04/22 2:00:03 PM
#18:


Upon relisten, there are definitely a few songs on here that reek of redundancy; it may have been better if they'd cut one of them out. Still, Slash and Izzy still rock the SHIT out of this, and their guitar work is what carries it the most.

  1. Sweet Child O' Mine
  2. Welcome to the Jungle
  3. It's So Easy
  4. Paradise City
  5. Mr. Brownstone
  6. Anything Goes - I happen to find this one a high-energy singalong. Haven't heard that other version though.
  7. Rocket Queen
  8. Nightrain
  9. My Michelle
  10. Out Ta Get Me
  11. You're Crazy
  12. Think About You


jcgamer107 posted...
Also, to me it's a pretty different style from White Stripes - way more going on - but I get if someone doesn't like/is sick of Jack's style generally
I simply like having a variety of artists; having two different albums by the same guy not even a month apart kinda goes against what I participate in this for, regardless of the differences in style over 19 years removed. I feel that, if you had nominated this your next cycle (or someone else had in two months), it'd be far enough removed from Elephant for me to sit down and listen to more times.

Most of the time I do 2-3 listens. Depends on how much time I have, how long the album is, and if I like it. Sometimes a 37 minute album will get four listens. If it's over an hour, it practically never gets more than two. This is why, for my nominations, I'm considering length. I still expect to take some heat for what I'm doing though >_>

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MetalmindStats
07/04/22 5:14:01 PM
#19:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Like Metalmind did for two songs above.
Old topic, but to be fair, I didn't actually explain my two biggest outliers, even knowing beforehand that Ball and Biscuit would top that list. I personally find it noticeably harder and a lot less fun to write about songs that I dislike relative to others than songs that I like disproportionately. That's partly because it's really difficult for me to outright dislike a song I've heard three times on different days, but I also worry that an exception (none of which were on Elephant, to be clear) would make for a thin line between song critique and implied opinion criticism. All this is to say that I'll personally (with no bearing on anyone else) try to proffer a few song write-ups a week from next week on - not this week because as I mentioned last topic, I'll be busy for most of it.

I am not currently busy, though, so here's the answer to a question I found in our archives while preparing my posts last week and got curious about myself (deleted and reposted because I missed My Head is an Animal before due to the switcheroo):

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Rank the Tracks Albums by Original Nominator, So Far
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Note: Albums before the bars (|) are those nominated and sufficiently supported in the first six weeks, while albums after the bars are those chosen via user-select polls.

Seanchan (5 | 2): Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix; The Beatles - Abbey Road; Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell; The Killers - Hot Fuss; Billy Joel - The Stranger | Dua Lipa - Future Nostalgia; blink-182 - Enema of the State

CasanovaZelos (4 | 2): Nirvana - Nevermind; LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver; Fiona Apple - Fetch the Bolt Cutters; The Knife - Silent Shout | Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes; Portishead - Third

Jesse_Custer (4* | 2): Gorillaz - Demon Days*; U2 - Achtung Baby; Radiohead - OK Computer; Of Monsters and Men - My Head is an Animal | Coeur de pirate - Roses; Eagles - Hotel California

ZaziGuado (3 | 2): Weezer - Weezer (The Blue Album); Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy; Air - Moon Safari | Lorde - Melodrama; Taylor Swift - Folklore

Johnbobb (3 | 2): Pink Floyd - The Wall; Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers); The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced | Soundgarden - Superunknown; Mos Def - Black on Both Sides

VeryInsane (3 | 2): Mastodon - Crack the Skye; Fleetwood Mac - Rumours; Pixies - Doolittle | The Velvet Underground and Nico - The Velvet Underground and Nico; Japanese Breakfast - Jubilee

SpikeSetsFire (3 | 1): Spice Girls - Spice; The Avalanches - Since I Left You; Moby - Play | Supertramp - Breakfast in America

TheArkOfTurus (2 | 2): Janelle Monae - The ArchAndroid; Iron Maiden - Powerslave | Rush - Moving Pictures; Metallica - Master of Puppets

Snake5555555555 (2 | 2): Rancid - And Out Come the Wolves; Taylor Swift - Speak Now | Brand New - The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me; Black Marble - It's Immaterial

Giggsalot (2 | 2): Massive Attack - Mezzanine; OutKast - Aquemini | Tom Waits - Rain Dogs; Love - Forever Changes

jcgamer107 (1 | 1): Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five | Miracle Musical - Hawaii: Part II

MetalmindStats (0 | 2): none | Tears for Fears - The Hurting; Peter Gabriel - So

RyoCaliente (0 | 2): none | Bloc Party - Silent Alarm; The White Stripes - Elephant

darkx (0 | 2): none | The Beatles - Rubber Soul; Guns N Roses - Appetite for Destruction

neonreaper (0 | 2): none | Opeth - Damnation; Faith No More - Angel Dust

Great_Paul (0 | 2): none | System of a Down - Toxicity; Avenged Sevenfold - Avenged Sevenfold

ZeroSignal620 (1 | 0): Alice in Chains - Dirt | none

StartTheMachine (1 | 0): Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d. city | none

TomNook (1 | 0): Hamilton | none

MoogleKupo141 (1 | 0): The Strokes - Is This It | none

Steiner (1 | 0): Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine | none

Seginustemple (1 | 0): Steely Dan - Can't Buy a Thrill | none

ChichiriMuyo (0 | 1): none | VAST - Visual Audio Sensory Theater

BlueCrystalTear (0 | 1): none | Phil Collins - Face Value

HBJDubs (0 | 1): none | Dream Theater - Images and Words

firefdr (0 | 1): none | Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory

Endnotes: *Jesse_Custer was the first user to nominate Gorillaz in the original iteration of this series; as this wasn't a proper nomination, I disfavored them for tiebreaking purposes. I broke all other ties via the week we covered each user's last album, favoring older weeks. Also, all artist/album names are as listed on our B8 wiki page, except for correcting the Bloc Party error.

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neonreaper
07/04/22 6:24:54 PM
#20:


Rocket Queen - I love this song. I love the textures of the guitars in the verses, the grooves, and the ending just breaks into a sappy ballad that just works. This is what an honest love song sounds like.

My Michelle - Always loved the riff. Love the intro. f'ing classic lyrics imo.

Welcome to the Jungle - Maybe the best side one song one from that era. It's a great song, a popular song, a perfect intro to an album.

Sweet Child O' Mine - Another 10/10 classic.

Mr. Brownstone
Paradise City
Nightrain

It's So Easy
Think About You
Out Ta Get Me

Anything Goes
You're Crazy

I listened to this album so much back in the day. Nothing really weak here - even the album fillers get stuck in your head and have plenty of brilliant little elements imo.

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igordebraga
07/04/22 10:08:42 PM
#21:


Great album, I usually only skip Sweet Child because it's overplayed and I'm less sentimental each day. Let's try...

1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. Paradise City
3. It's So Easy
4. Rocket Queen
5. Nightrain
6. Think About You
7. Sweet Child O' Mine
8. Mr. Brownstone
9. Out Ta Get Me
10. My Michelle
11. You're Crazy
12. Anything Goes

(and just because I can't let it go: The White Stripes border a trigger for me, specially that goddamned "song" - I consider calling whatever Jack White does as 'music' offensive - that whenever chanted in sports events, makes me go for the mute button)

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Axl_Rose_85
07/05/22 1:15:58 AM
#22:


1. Rocket Queen - Infact this song is just behind November Rain and Estranged in my favorite songs of all time list
2. Sweet Child O' Mine
3. Paradise City
4. Welcome to the Jungle
5. Mr. Brownstone
6. My Michelle
7. Nightrain
8. Out Ta Get Me
9. It's Eo Easy
10. Think About You
11. Anything Goes
12. You're Crazy
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CasanovaZelos
07/06/22 9:55:21 AM
#23:


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Raetsel_Lapin
07/06/22 4:32:07 PM
#24:


1: Rocket Queen
2: Anything Goes
3: Welcome to the Jungle
4: Nightrain
5: Out Ta Get Me
6: Sweet Child O' Mine
7: Paradise City
8: Mr. Brownstone
9: Think About You
10: It's So Easy
11: My Michelle
12: You're Crazy

Comments on two or three songs soon.

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Raetsel_Lapin
07/06/22 5:21:55 PM
#25:


Anything Goes: I really quite like the instrumental portion of this song. It's brief and I can't point to a reason that I enjoy it so much, but I find it to be the definitive highlight of the album--if not one of the highlights of the entire series. I definitely get the arguments about the lyrics being too repetitive, but I think they're catchy and fun enough to avoid becoming actively annoying & I'm really just here for the solo anyway.

Welcome to the Jungle: I wasn't looking forward to ranking this song. It's ludicrously overplayed and not a style of hard rock that I find appealing, so I'll often change the station the second it begins playing. I actually had it in next-to-last place in the initial draft of my rankings because my starting opinion was pretty close to actively hating the song. But upon further reflection, you know, I actually rather enjoy the third verse and the bridge/solo/segue that follow it... enough so that I started actively looking forward to hearing the song on subsequent relistens of the album. Probably the song that's had the largest increase from how I felt about it initially to where it eventually placed.

Paradise City: A song that I wish ended after the third verse, instead of going with another chorus & pointlessly extended outro. I like the song up until that point... once it speeds up and decides to go as hard as it can, I lose all interest. This made the song rather impossible to rank properly... I could argue the high points are strong enough to move the song into fourth place & just as easily argue that having parts I hate should drag it down towards the bottom of the list. Ultimately, the song just kinda wound up near the middle of the list which is simultaneously "very appropriate for a song with both very high and low points" and "a completely unsatisfying response".


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CasanovaZelos
07/07/22 10:26:18 AM
#26:


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firefdr
07/07/22 3:53:47 PM
#27:


It's So Easy
Nightrain
Sweet Child O' Mine
Paradise City
Rocket Queen
Mr. Brownstone
Welcome to the Jungle
My Michelle
Out Ta Get Me
Anything Goes
You're Crazy
Think About You
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MZero
07/08/22 11:59:36 AM
#28:


Rocket Queen
Think About You
Sweet Child O' Mine
Mr. Brownstone
Nightrain
Welcome to the Jungle
My Michelle
You're Crazy
It's So Easy
Paradise City
Out to Get Me
Anything Goes

They all rock though. Not a single dud

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LiquidOshawott
07/08/22 2:15:44 PM
#29:


Paradise City
Sweet Child O Mine
Nightrain
Rocket Queen
Welcome to the Jungle
Mr Brownstone
Its So Easy
Out Ta Get Me
Think About You
My Michelle
Youre Crazy
Anything Goes

no real comment

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CasanovaZelos
07/09/22 5:22:02 PM
#30:


Last day

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ZeroSignal
07/09/22 8:50:00 PM
#31:


1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. Rocket Queen
3. Mr. Brownstone
4. Nightrain
5. It's So Easy
6. Sweet Child O' Mine
7. Paradise City
8. Out Ta Get Me
9. My Michelle
10. Think About You
11. You're Crazy
12. Anything Goes

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HBJDubs
07/09/22 10:26:37 PM
#32:


Sweet Child O' Mine
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Paradise City
Out Ta Get Me
Mr. Brownstone
Rocket Queen
My Michelle
Nightrain
Think About You
You're Crazy
Anything Goes

Very solid and consistent album, every song is either a 7 or 8/10, and they each have at least one part that makes it stick out so nothing feels lost in the shuffle.

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Seanchan
07/09/22 11:23:20 PM
#33:


  1. Sweet Child O' Mine
  2. Welcome to the Jungle
  3. Paradise City
  4. Nightrain
  5. Mr. Brownstone
  6. My Michelle
  7. Rocket Queen
  8. You're Crazy
  9. Think About You
  10. Out Ta Get Me
  11. It's So Easy
  12. Anything Goes
Just an absolute banger of an album. Yes, the classic rock station staples are a little overplayed but the reason is that they're really fucking good! Whenever I hear that intro to Sweet Child O' Mine I know I'm going to find a reason to sit there until it's done. You don't change the station past Welcome to the Jungle. Paradise City makes me want to smash through billboards and "race west to the Wind Farm". Then you've got a whole next tier of songs that could be (were?) hit singles that get overshadowed like Nightrain, Mr. Brownstone, My Michelle, and Rocket Queen. And then the "bottom" tier which are all still pretty solid.

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ChichiriMuyo
07/10/22 5:32:25 AM
#34:


Why listen to Appetite For Destruction, Thor Love and Thunder is out now. Seriously, there are at least four GNR songs in it, including my top three from this album. Maybe it's because I'm not a big fan of the band, but Thor L+T alone gives me basically everything I'd want to hear from GNR.

Welcome to the Jungle
Sweet Child O' Mine
Paradise City
Mr. Brownstone
Rocket Queen
Think About You
It's So Easy
My Michelle
You're Crazy
Anything Goes
Nightrain
Out Ta Get Me

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Underleveled
07/10/22 9:52:19 AM
#35:


Sweet Child O' Mine
Welcome to the Jungle
Paradise City
Think About You
Nightrain
Mr. Brownstone
It's So Easy
Rocket Queen
Out Ta Get Me
My Michelle
Anything Goes
You're Crazy

Not even a little bit easy. Every track on here is a fucking banger.

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