Board 8 > Could Donkey Kong defeat Knuckles the Echidna in a fight?

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rwlh
06/11/22 11:01:15 AM
#1:


as nominated by @LeonhartFour

Arguments for Knuckles:
  • he has physical strength but also great speed
  • he has a lot more upward mobility than DK
  • he is also affiliated with rap, which negates any advantage the DK Rap might have
Arguments for DK:
  • Knuckles is one of the only opponents he might be smarter than
  • he has greater strength feats? Or at least more cartoony ones
  • if DK shoots Knuckles, it's gonna hurt


Last topic Sabin eked out a narrow win, jumping over barrels and suplexing DK off a mountain. On paper Knuckles is a similar opponent to DK, so who comes out on top in gorilla vs. echidna?
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most_games_r_ok
06/11/22 11:02:41 AM
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Knuckles smashes him I think

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swirIdude
06/11/22 11:04:19 AM
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Knuckles is too fast too furious and DK doesn't have the mental fortitude to come up with a plan to trick Knuckles

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Tom Bombadil
06/11/22 11:16:10 AM
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I might give DK the strength advantage but I think I give Knuckles agility and intelligence. Tough one but my gut says Knuckles.

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Pirateking2000
06/11/22 1:06:38 PM
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Do we count Archie Knuckles? Then DK gets swatted

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andylt
06/11/22 1:07:35 PM
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Knuckles does not have intelligence, he is easily and frequently fooled.

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Leonhart4
06/11/22 1:08:34 PM
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andylt posted...
Knuckles does not have intelligence, he is easily and frequently fooled.

Only when it comes to the Master Emerald. Knuckles could also fool DK about his bananas.

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MegaWentEvil
06/11/22 2:33:39 PM
#8:


Donkey Kong already beat him in Death Battle, so Donkey Kong.

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Pirateking2000
06/11/22 2:42:27 PM
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MegaWentEvil posted...
Donkey Kong already beat him in Death Battle, so Donkey Kong.
They also think Toph beats Garra and that Dio Brando is millions upon millions of times the speed of light

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Crescent-Moon
06/11/22 2:45:47 PM
#10:


I said this in the other topic:

Knuckles one real advantage is his speed. Knuckles will not use this, and instead run in punching like a madman and get curbstomped.

This is a win for DK.

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NFUN
06/11/22 2:50:49 PM
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Grand Kirby
06/11/22 2:58:18 PM
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Donkey Kong once punched the moon out of orbit

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Kamekguy
06/11/22 3:02:54 PM
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I cannot name a single cool thing Knuckles actually does in a Sonic game that shows off his strength.

Oh wow he can punch through walls so can Rambi I am glad he is equal to DK's dog (Rambi is a good boy for reference).

DK until I see, like, an actual Knuckles feat.

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Pirateking2000
06/11/22 3:04:53 PM
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Kamekguy posted...
I cannot name a single cool thing Knuckles actually does in a Sonic game that shows off his strength.

Oh wow he can punch through walls so can Rambi I am glad he is equal to DK's dog (Rambi is a good boy for reference).

DK until I see, like, an actual Knuckles feat.

Punch out Super Sonic? Also causes explosions with his punch via air friction

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masterplum
06/11/22 3:08:29 PM
#15:


First match I'm picking DK

This feels like an exceptionally poor matchup for Knuckles where Knuckles could win but I assume he would vastly underestimate DK and get stomped

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Kamekguy
06/11/22 3:11:22 PM
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Is the Super Sonic feat purely strength? Always thought that was due to the force of the Master Emerald neutralizing the power of the chaos emeralds (hence why all of them fall out of Sonic and Knuckles snatches them up and laughs) as that was Sonic's first visit to Angel Island.

Air friction feat is ffffine but I'm less likely to respect particle effects than actual damage, especially when DK matches that feat in Jungle Beat.

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Pirateking2000
06/11/22 3:23:22 PM
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Not sure about the ME cancelling since I don't think he had it on him at the time? He does do some other stuff like shatter a giant gold statue with a punch, send people flying, stops a moving train head on (if you count Shuffle), gets shot out of a giant cannon into a base completely destroying it unscathed, and stuff like that. Would him being able to break the Master Emerald also be worth noting? This isn't going into powerups like super and hyper as I am guessing those are off the table.

Also assume this is strictly games only because comic Knuckles is a monster going around punching out universes and stuff

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Kenri
06/11/22 3:40:40 PM
#18:


rwlh posted...
Arguments for DK:

Knuckles is one of the only opponents he might be smarter than
I actually laughed out loud

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06/11/22 4:35:59 PM
#19:


rwlh posted...
he has a lot more upward mobility than DK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCfJzrQlTIk

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greengravy294
06/11/22 4:48:16 PM
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Knuckles makes sense here

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masterplum
06/11/22 6:44:11 PM
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Pirateking2000 posted...
Not sure about the ME cancelling since I don't think he had it on him at the time? He does do some other stuff like shatter a giant gold statue with a punch, send people flying, stops a moving train head on (if you count Shuffle), gets shot out of a giant cannon into a base completely destroying it unscathed, and stuff like that. Would him being able to break the Master Emerald also be worth noting? This isn't going into powerups like super and hyper as I am guessing those are off the table.

Also assume this is strictly games only because comic Knuckles is a monster going around punching out universes and stuff

I think we can ignore comic shenanigans the same way we can ignore dk punching the moon shenanigans

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Leonhart4
06/11/22 7:09:39 PM
#22:


Nominate Johnny Cage

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Lopen
06/11/22 7:09:59 PM
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I mean on pure capabilities Knux probably wins but DK outsmarting him just seems too right here. I'll go with DK

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masterplum
06/11/22 7:35:31 PM
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Nominate Commander Shepard (Female obviously)

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Leonhart4
06/11/22 7:44:35 PM
#25:


Kamekguy posted...
I cannot name a single cool thing Knuckles actually does in a Sonic game that shows off his strength.

Oh wow he can punch through walls so can Rambi I am glad he is equal to DK's dog (Rambi is a good boy for reference).

DK until I see, like, an actual Knuckles feat.

I think being strong enough to punch through walls is strong enough to beat DK. He doesn't have to be stronger than him straight up since he has a massive speed advantage.

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rwlh
06/11/22 9:49:06 PM
#26:


Leonhart4 posted...
Nominate Johnny Cage

I thought this said "Nominate Johnny Cash."
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Leonhart4
06/11/22 11:07:46 PM
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You can go with him too

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MoogleKupo141
06/11/22 11:10:36 PM
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Donkey Kong is a gorillla, Knuckles is some kind of rodent

so yeah

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Crescent-Moon
06/11/22 11:11:45 PM
#29:


Leonhart4 posted...
I think being strong enough to punch through walls is strong enough to beat DK. He doesn't have to be stronger than him straight up since he has a massive speed advantage.
But if he actually smart enough to utilize that speed advantage in any meaningful way?

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Leonhart4
06/11/22 11:15:14 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
But if he actually smart enough to utilize that speed advantage in any meaningful way?

Assuming DK isn't some master tactician, it doesn't require a lot of brains to dodge his attacks

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StartTheMachine
06/11/22 11:39:50 PM
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You forgot the most important argument for Knuckles:
- Unlike Sonic, he doesn't chuckle. He'd rather flex his muscles.

at which point DK socks him in the face real good. DK

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Tom Bombadil
06/11/22 11:54:07 PM
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Isn't Knuckles, like, a general in Forces or something? I'm under the impression they kinda phased out the gullibility

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LeonhartFour
06/12/22 12:07:28 AM
#33:


Tom Bombadil posted...
Isn't Knuckles, like, a general in Forces or something? I'm under the impression they kinda phased out the gullibility

it depends on the media, his meathead persona is played up to eleven in Sonic Boom, for instance

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Pirateking2000
06/12/22 12:15:13 AM
#34:


Tom Bombadil posted...
Isn't Knuckles, like, a general in Forces or something? I'm under the impression they kinda phased out the gullibility

Wasn't there a comment in the game about most of the resistance getting wiped out?

Though generally speaking, I thought Knuckles was more socially naive as he got roped into plots, but fine in terms of practical stuff. Well outside of Boom anyway. I think the movie gets it right funny enough.

I don't see DK tricking him or anything like that

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LeonhartFour
06/12/22 12:18:12 AM
#35:


Yeah, Knuckles is gullible when it comes to the Master Emerald because he's just utterly obsessed with protecting it, but it doesn't mean he's incapable of strategy or anything. He seemed to be capable of staying one step ahead of Sonic throughout most of S3&K.

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WazzupGenius00
06/12/22 1:32:47 AM
#36:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
Donkey Kong is a gorillla, Knuckles is some kind of rodent

so yeah
he's a monotreme ffs

actually have the comics ever shown an echidna egg

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Kamekguy
06/12/22 1:42:22 AM
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I think the issue for me via speed is that DK's reflexes are fantastic. Multiple games of rapid-fire punches, multiple games of Punch-Out dodging and returning fire, Jungle Beat is just a showcase of DK reacting to everything in front of him and beating the crap out of it without losing his rhythm. Knuckles has the speed advantage, clearly, but he doesn't really have an effective ranged option - he has to come TO DK. And I don't think either of them is smart enough to try and bait the other versus going "hey you're pretty strong, wanna fight?"

At which point I just like DK's close combat feats a lot more. Breaking an obsidian egg of pure evil energy using only his skull like a woodpecker's pretty good and a ridiculous high bar for 'amount of attacks he can throw out in a second'. (via the Rocs in Jungle Beat).

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trizob
06/12/22 5:45:25 AM
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See, the thing about Knuckles is... unlike Sonic, he doesn't chuckle. He'd rather flex his muscles.

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Raetsel_Lapin
06/12/22 7:54:44 AM
#39:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
he's a monotreme ffs

actually have the comics ever shown an echidna egg

Archie Comics Knuckles got his powers when his father bombarded his egg with Chaos Emerald Radiation (I think), so yes.

https://amomentofarchiesonic-blog.tumblr.com/post/16584509973/i-had-a-bad-dream-better-microwave-the-baby

EDIT:

Due to retcons, changed plans, and writers leaving, the vision that led Knuckles dad to irradiate him with Chaos energy never happened (not even 20 Years Later in the future) so I have to assume he REALLY DID just have a bad dream and thus microwaved a baby

I forgot the vision didn't even mean anything making this scene somehow even more ridiculous.

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Neocrimson
06/12/22 10:57:49 AM
#40:


MegaWentEvil posted...
Donkey Kong already beat him in Death Battle, so Donkey Kong.

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X_Dante_X
06/12/22 11:06:43 AM
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donkey kong solos

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rwlh
06/12/22 12:40:21 PM
#42:


Unofficial tally has Kong in the lead, 11-7.
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rwlh
06/12/22 4:05:13 PM
#43:


Any other gripping (knuckling) arguments?
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NFUN
06/12/22 4:10:27 PM
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Knuckles is tougher than leather, but DK is bigger, stronger, and faster too

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