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Darkprince21
06/02/22 4:41:25 AM
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https://twitter.com/RealLyndaCarter/status/1532065828447080449?s=20&t=jD_LCfAC95hJe59XpqTLGA
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pegusus123456
06/02/22 4:48:42 AM
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Good on her, but I'm not familiar with anything about WW that'd make her a trans icon. Even queer is a bit of a stretch since it's mostly just inferred that the Amazons would have same-sex relationships.

I will say my favorite reply is the idiot who said the Matrix being a trans allegory was only made up later when it was made by the fuckin' Wachowski sisters.

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008Zulu
06/02/22 4:52:57 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Even queer is a bit of a stretch
She is confirmed to be bisexual.

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NeonOctopus
06/02/22 4:53:00 AM
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Truth bomb: Lynda Carter is a hotter Wonder Woman than Gal Gadot.

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party_animal07
06/02/22 4:58:39 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...


I will say my favorite reply is the idiot who said the Matrix being a trans allegory was only made up later when it was made by the fuckin' Wachowski sisters.
Two things can be true simultaneously

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gunplagirl
06/02/22 5:00:49 AM
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You do know trans icon doesn't necessitate someone being trans, right? It's like how Cher and Madonna are drag icons.

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FunkyCat
06/02/22 5:02:27 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
You do know trans icon doesn't necessitate someone being trans, right? It's like how Cher and Madonna are drag icons.
Next you will tell me kylie minogue isnt gay!

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pegusus123456
06/02/22 5:06:40 AM
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008Zulu posted...
She is confirmed to be bisexual.
That would have happened relatively recently though. Either way, her being a queer icon makes sense, I just don't see the trans thing.

gunplagirl posted...
You do know trans icon doesn't necessitate someone being trans, right? It's like how Cher and Madonna are drag icons.
Yes. I'm just not aware of anything that would make her a trans icon.

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HagenEx
06/02/22 5:24:37 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Truth bomb: Lynda Carter is a hotter Wonder Woman than Gal Gadot.

Was*.

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NeonOctopus
06/02/22 5:26:22 AM
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HagenEx posted...
Was*.
Did I stutter!?

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Punished_Blinx
06/02/22 5:53:34 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Yes. I'm just not aware of anything that would make her a trans icon.

I can't speak for trans people but maybe there's some escapism with how she spins and transforms into Wonder Woman?

https://youtu.be/YVLJcBsD__E

I could see that being a power fantasy for people who want to transition.

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pegusus123456
06/02/22 5:54:42 AM
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Oh, yeah, I could see that one.

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Lordgold666
06/02/22 8:08:36 AM
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She such a gilf

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McMarbles
06/02/22 8:09:25 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Truth bomb: Lynda Carter is a hotter Wonder Woman than Gal Gadot.
Facts

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haloiscoolisbak
06/02/22 8:13:05 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
I can't speak for trans people but maybe there's some escapism with how she spins and transforms into Wonder Woman?

https://youtu.be/YVLJcBsD__E

I could see that being a power fantasy for people who want to transition.

I wonder if Sailor Moon is also a trans icon

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viewmaster_pi
06/02/22 8:14:41 AM
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she's also an icon for people made of clay

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MrMallard
06/02/22 8:14:47 AM
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Nobody decides if Wonder Woman is a trans icon except for the trans people who see her as that. To which I would say - it does genuinely seem like the trans community are quite taken with WW, and has been for a long, long time.

I've seen a lot of trans adoration for Wonder Woman, and I get if she was the closet key for a lot of trans women who saw a strong, principled, protective woman and saw an ideal of what they wish they could be. And apparently, the actress who portrays arguably the most iconic version of the character in the cultural zeitgeist has seen exactly that with transgender people telling her that.

This is going to be some culture war bullshit about "Lynda Carter going woke", probably some dumbfuck boomers comparing her to Jane Fonda or something. But shit man, when you're right, you're right. Don't shit on Lynda Carter for talking about what she's experienced as the defining portrayal of Wonder Woman: acceptance and love for an audience who saw themselves in the character.

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UnfairRepresent
06/02/22 8:16:45 AM
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I mean she's right

Being a trans icon doesn't mean you're trans

Xena is a lesbian icon even though she's canonically straight for the entire show. Fans didn't care.

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Turbam
06/02/22 8:17:45 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Truth bomb: Lynda Carter is a hotter Wonder Woman than Gal Gadot.
I'm gonna argue that Gal Gadot ain't even hot

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MrMallard
06/02/22 8:18:24 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
I wonder if Sailor Moon is also a trans icon


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GiftedACIII
06/02/22 8:18:27 AM
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I always find it kind of funny how people seem to forget that WW kind of originated as a bondage fetish.

haloiscoolisbak posted...
I wonder if Sailor Moon is also a trans icon


Any Magical Girl. Or this trope.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BishonenLine

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haloiscoolisbak
06/02/22 8:24:21 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
I always find it kind of funny how people seem to forget that WW kind of originated as a bondage fetish.

Any Magical Girl. Or this trope.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BishonenLine

The final form trope? So, the mighty morphin power rangers theoretically could be too? Or is that pushing it

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Punished_Blinx
06/02/22 8:33:01 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
I wonder if Sailor Moon is also a trans icon

From a brief Google I think she is lol. Especially the uncensored original.

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Ivynn
06/02/22 8:36:15 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Truth bomb: Lynda Carter is a hotter Wonder Woman than Gal Gadot.

Facts!

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Southernfatman
06/02/22 8:37:15 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Truth bomb: Lynda Carter is a hotter Wonder Woman than Gal Gadot.

This X 1000.

gunplagirl posted...
You do know trans icon doesn't necessitate someone being trans, right? It's like how Cher and Madonna are drag icons.

And this too.

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Tyranthraxus
06/02/22 9:10:32 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
That would have happened relatively recently though. Either way, her being a queer icon makes sense, I just don't see the trans thing.

WW Earth One was published 6 years ago. There's been a lot of subtext prior to that.

gunplagirl posted...
You do know trans icon doesn't necessitate someone being trans, right? It's like how Cher and Madonna are drag icons.

While true I always think it's a little weird people still consider "I will survive" a gay anthem after what Gloria Gaynor said about AIDS.

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Ruvan22
06/02/22 9:46:25 AM
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MrMallard posted...
Nobody decides if Wonder Woman is a trans icon except for the trans people who see her as that. To which I would say - it does genuinely seem like the trans community are quite taken with WW, and has been for a long, long time.

I've seen a lot of trans adoration for Wonder Woman, and I get if she was the closet key for a lot of trans women who saw a strong, principled, protective woman and saw an ideal of what they wish they could be. And apparently, the actress who portrays arguably the most iconic version of the character in the cultural zeitgeist has seen exactly that with transgender people telling her that.

This is going to be some culture war bullshit about "Lynda Carter going woke", probably some dumbfuck boomers comparing her to Jane Fonda or something. But shit man, when you're right, you're right. Don't shit on Lynda Carter for talking about what she's experienced as the defining portrayal of Wonder Woman: acceptance and love for an audience who saw themselves in the character.

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Ruvan22
06/02/22 9:46:43 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...


While true I always think it's a little weird people still consider "I will survive" a gay anthem after what Gloria Gaynor said about AIDS.

What did she say?
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Tyranthraxus
06/02/22 9:47:15 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
What did she say?

Usual "punishment from God because gay people" stuff

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Zurich
06/02/22 9:48:18 AM
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This is a gaming websight. WW, to most of us, means Wind Waker!

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DeadBankerDream
06/02/22 9:51:22 AM
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Zurich posted...
This is a gaming websight. WW, to most of us, means Wind Waker!
I thought we were shortening WWI to WW when I read the topic title.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/02/22 10:02:24 AM
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I would think she being bisexual represents the LGBTQ community as a whole not only trans people.

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EricDraven59
06/02/22 10:03:21 AM
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-_-
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averagejoel
06/02/22 10:08:41 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I thought we were shortening WWI to WW when I read the topic title.
my first thought was "white woman." my second was "weight watchers." I mostly clicked on this topic to see what it actually stood for

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ClockworkHare
06/02/22 10:14:43 AM
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Twitter users in battle after Lynda Carter says WW is a trans icon
Definitely as a drag icon.

A bunch of the critics probably misunderstood the context and thought Carter was saying Wonder Woman as a character is transgender, a presumption that would be canonically false.

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nicklebro
06/02/22 10:19:39 AM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
I would think she being bisexual represents the LGBTQ community as a whole not only trans people.
You're missing the point. A straight cisgendered woman can be a trans icon just as well as a pansexual non-binary one can. Being an icon of a group just means you've been a major influence on that group and that you resonate with them for whatever reason, the Madonna/ drag queen post was a perfect example.

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WaterLink
06/02/22 10:22:16 AM
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I came in here wondering how Walter White was a trans icon lmao

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Buu_88
06/02/22 10:31:52 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
I wonder if Sailor Moon is also a trans icon

Yeah the Sailor Starlights definitely are

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Questionmarktarius
06/02/22 10:35:26 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
I wonder if Sailor Moon is also a trans icon
obligatory Sailor Starlights

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Collat
06/02/22 10:42:22 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Yes. I'm just not aware of anything that would make her a trans icon.
Could be as simple as a trans kid aspiring to be her before coming out.
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_Rinku_
06/02/22 10:55:30 AM
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Lots of characters can be trans icons without being trans themselves. I know plenty of transgender people (men and women) who see themselves in characters disguised as the opposite gender (think Disney's Mulan) because something about the idea of passing clicks in their brain.
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DeadBankerDream
06/02/22 11:02:06 AM
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Why are we debating the semantics of being an "icon"?

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Robot2600
06/02/22 11:03:10 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/8/AABHfBAADSzO.jpg

if you aren't trans then stop stressing out about who is or isn't a trans icon. List of trans icons:

Lady Gaga
Wonder Woman
Poison from Street Fighter
Drag Queens
Joan of Arc
Lili Elbe
Beyonc

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_Rinku_
06/02/22 11:04:17 AM
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You're being obtuse, dude. It doesn't take a genius to see how a character whose whole arc is "hiding who they really are and then being celebrated for being true to themselves" appeals to someone who's transgender.
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DrizztLink
06/02/22 11:04:59 AM
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Here's an idea: let them decide that.

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