Board 8 > Star Wars and Pokemon Mafia Topic 8 - Ruby/Sapphire

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf3lxiVOjOo

Plum has died! He was...

(Bug sounds).

You are Surskit, LIGHT SIDE Vanilla. You are a water skater bug. Pretty cute! Google it if you want more information.

As a Vanilla, you have no additional powers.

Welcome home, general. Im afraid I must request your surrender.

You are Kit Fisto, LIGHT SIDE Vanilla. You are one of the Jedi Masters of the Jedi Council. As a Nautolan, you are amphibious, making you the default choice for interventions on aquatic worlds. You are also known for your very friendly smile.

As a Vanilla, you have no additional powers.

Living Playerlist

1. Chaeix (JC)
2. Death
3. Hbthebattle
4. Isquen
5. Kirby
6. Lea
7. Arti
8. MZero
9. Red13n
10. SBell
11. Scare
12. Sir Chris
13. Sultan
14. Ulti
15. ViolentAbacus

Its just a bug its probably easy to squish
LD1 - Sheep - Venomoff Gideon, DARK SIDE Tracker/Poisoner
KN1 - IGCD - Charmandalorian, LIGHT SIDE Bodyguard/Vanilla
LD2 - Ben - Professor Snoke, DARK SIDE Neighborizer/Redirector
KN2 - Corrik - Padm Amidalakazam, LIGHT SIDE Vanilla/Psychic
LD3 - Chang - Ki-Adi Munna, LIGHT SIDE Vanilla/Vanilla
KN3 - Masterplum - Surskit Fisto, LIGHT SIDE Vanilla/Vanilla

NOTE
Everyone is now their Pokmon role.
NOTE

With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to reach majority. Day ends Friday at 7 eastern.

GO

Haha
wow
Guess scum is trying to blindly shoot the best candidates for doctor/protection now

Almost makes up for what happened to Changmas... almost

On reread I kind of liked chang's fight to open the morning so the gladiator is kind of disheartening.

scum's got a thief it seems, my "result was stolen".

Well you being late to these epiphanies is at least in character for you, red.

....Thats not how thief works
But I guess thats their version of roleblocker?

Well, shit re: chang. Does it make sense for scum Kirby to throw chang under the bus to save Arti? My head is still grappling with last eod.

Also I was slept with last night. Hi Sultan <3

htaeD posted...

Well you being late to these epiphanies is at least in character for you, red.

By the time I was here gladiator was already in effect.

Sultans gonna have to explain why he slept with JC honestly. Then again JC's status depends on Kirby's own status. But I liked JC's input last night.

Hey HB, who did you target?

It's Ok, changmas is one with the force now and I apparently am not quite God.

Ulti, yesterday you unvoted chang and said you liked his defense. Was there more to it than sympathy?

Kirby is fine now I think. Chang was ahead and I think he just legitimately has no idea what to do with the role.

I would like to have a robust discussion about jc because a lot of people really seem to have the wrong impression of his content this game

RIP Chang & Plum :( Though I guess two vanillas/vanillas are the best option if we have to have people die.

Chaeix posted...

Well, shit re: chang. Does it make sense for scum Kirby to throw chang under the bus to save Arti? My head is still grappling with last eod.

I don't think so? Someone mentioned it, but Chang was already on the chopping block & had more votes and wasn't really trying to help his case. I think that they would rather have that mislynch go through and then keep Kirby for another day.

But of course, other people know the game better so ya know, take what you will from that statement.

Basically brings unwanted/needed attention towards Kirby, who (from what I saw) most people already kind of leaned town on.

Kirby claimed part watcher, scum will have to deal with that eventually anyway

Yeah it was only paranoia making me look side ways at Kirby and given how everything unfolded yesterday he is fine. I feel like the play there is arti for scum Kirby with the knowledge that chang is truthful. Either you bus and look great or you get rid of the flavor cop and it is chill.

htaeD posted...

Hey HB, who did you target?

Hmmm, I'm not sure if I should say.

I literally cannot imagine a downside.

That's mafia sometimes. He seemed not to take it too hard at the end. He is new so I didn't know that type of swing was in his town range. Kind of sucks but he took is as a learning opportunity and I meant what I said that I am glad he is in our community now.

changmas posted...

Town (in no order)
Changmas
HB - no reason to distrust his claims
Isquen - looks like standard isquen
Plum - far cry from the plum of last game, feel good about him
Mzero - good luck brother
Chris - unlucky you got caught up in the perfect game, still think it's too unlikely that he threw sheep and ben under the bus just to clear himself to eventually get rule 1'd anyway
Ulti - this hits town ulti for me, bad logic, earnestly solving, etc.
Abacus - idk man i think he's just

Town lean
Lea - logic is sound, didn't take issue with the random things other people seemed to (being against lists? wtf)
Kirby - doesn't look like a different kirby to me from last game, albeit with less information to go off of.
Death - look man i can't read this guy ever but he seems good for the spectrum of scum leaning to scum that I usually have him at so i'm working on adjusting to that
Sultan - prostitute claim is really the only thing i have going for him

???
Scare - hasn't said anything except to push me
Red - mostly same

Scum
JC - also has been quite inactive but has been pushing me over and over to call me out for my lack of content when he's been arguably just as bad. Perhaps projecting very hard.
Arti - for reasons i have already outlined and that many of you likely share

BUT

the main thing I want to say is that this is the group of 6 people who has pushed for me most heavily:

there are two scum in this list guaranteed. as you may refer to my initial posting of the MS Paint diagram I will never be mislynched solely by town alone. (for reference - pushed by MZero (Scum) in FE:A mafia, Ulti (scum)/Corrik (neutral) in Elden Ring mafia, Han (scum) in Discusses Mafia)

JC
Scare
Isquen
Red
Arti
Chris

Please please honor my last request and focus on this group moving forward. Good luck.

His list for easy viewing. Although he seemed to recant his jc suspicion later on.

Well, does it say the person when you target? Or does it just say "Your target did/did not move"?

Hbthebattle posted...

Hmmm, I'm not sure if I should say.

Why aren't you sure? Sincerely want to hear

Spooky tag

ViolentAbacus posted...

Well, does it say the person when you target? Or does it just say "Your target did/did not move"?

He said his result was stolen, but that sounds like a new role to me.

Also wanting to say this early scare had to do more today. I have no interest in chasing down someone and it is day 4 now. His level of participation just isn't acceptable and I hope he doesn't need to be forced to actually do things. It seems insane to me that sheep would say scare Is obv then to a buddy but giving me anything to back up that wifom read would be appreciated.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Why aren't you sure? Sincerely want to hear

Mmmmm. My reasoning was that "don't give any more information to scum than is necessary" but I guess I'm just being paranoid. My target was Sbell.

The more people die the more I just want everyone to flip so we can see what everyones names are.

Hbthebattle posted...

Mmmmm. My reasoning was that "don't give any more information to scum than is necessary" but I guess I'm just being paranoid. My target was Sbell.

They probably know what sbell did since it was stolen.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

They probably know what sbell did since it was stolen.

So you are certain Sbell is town then eh?

I'm just relieved I didn't make it obvious who it was that I saw visiting Chris. I was seriously worried that person was gonna end up dead today, given how badly I screwed up yesterday to the point I had to claim everything. It goes without saying that I'm not gonna reveal who that person was today under any circumstances, and I don't think anything will change my mind on that.

Shout-out to Chris for leading the charge on two scum early in the game and still staying alive in spite of it. That's honestly incredible lol
(I don't mean that sarcastically. Given his interactions with Ben, who was actually a Scum Neighborizer, I doubt it was a bus. Too many chances for inconsistencies to pop up in that exchange without insane amounts of coordination. But I don't think anyone has actually questioned Chris's alignment besides Corrik)

Regarding the scans, is it safe for Sultan to reveal whether JC moved or not? JC is completely unclaimed.

I mean our unknown protector has got scum on the ropes it seems, so I dont feel like a massclaim

I will note I have been asking for contributions from everyone. This has been a team game the entire time I just post a lot.

Honestly, I feel really awful about yesterday's lynch. I didn't listen to my gut, and my gut told me to gladiate Arti. I'm with Ulti here; I think Arti should be lynched today, especially out of respect for changmas's list.

Speaking of that list, Scare is the next player I don't feel good about.

Chris is obvtown
Red scans as suspicious to me, so given that's exactly what I thought last game until my scans proved me otherwise, I'm labeling him off as town since it seems he's playing similarly to that game
Isquen feels like a wildcard to me. Could be eccentric scum, could be strange townie. I'm keeping my eye on him, but I'm leaning slightly more toward strange townie.
And JC I feel lukewarm about compared to his Day 1 behavior, especially after the quotes Chris provided yesterday

Honestly my defense of arti stands as is. Someone show me the scummy posts?

My impression of Arti being unimpressive outside of 1 or 2 posts also still stands.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I mean HB is confirmed town regardless but this mega confirms it. Liking Stu more over this too.

I agree with HB being town. I don't necessarily agree with Sbell looking better or worse for it just because he was the target. Could you explain your reasoning for that?

I do find it odd that this ability wasn't used N1 on HB considering that he claimed tracker before D1 even ended... Like, if you can steal results, and there's a confirmed tracker, why not use it on the tracker? Something seems off about that.

Its possible town had a redirector or jailkeeper to stop that the first time.
Though I am not sure why they would target someone else on night3 in that case.

Or they tried to kill HB and got BGed, but that seems a bit reckless for scum.

I don't see how I'm more town because I was a nightly target that got stolen results.

there's no logic in that. stealing hbs target has nothing to do with who he targeted.

also Chris. told you it was defeated town by the way you described it.

I am still weirded out that Chris seems to already assume you have to be town.
I mean he's probably right but still..
Not sure people are saying its because of the stolen results tho. And yes those are clearly a result of HB being targeted with something, not you.

I'm not sure if I like MZero more or less because his defense of chang ultimately ended up being correct. However I'm curious about a line of reasoning - MZero, can you give me the cliff's notes on the relationship between chang and Isquen? You mentioned that one of the two is scum but from Topic 7 I couldn't really get a full understanding of why they were interlinked (I saw your independent Isquen reasoning in post 170). It may have been mentioned elsewhere but I have to head out soon and don't have the time to look into every topic.

Obellisk posted...

also Chris. told you it was defeated town by the way you described it.

Now if you could explain why he was defeated I might take a mafia lesson from you

htaeD posted...

I am still weirded out that Chris seems to already assume you have to be town.
I mean he's probably right but still..
Not sure people are saying its because of the stolen results tho. And yes those are clearly a result of HB being targeted with something, not you.

Huh?

I think Death meant to say Ulti

DoomTheGyarados posted...

They probably know what sbell did since it was stolen.

This reads like you know Sbell is town, because scum wouldnt need any special power to know what Sbell did.
I dont see this as a gotcha or anything. I just dont recall what your stance on Sbell was before now.

*what scum Sbell did