Board 8 > Star Wars and Pokemon Mafia Topic 8 - Ruby/Sapphire

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Fair enough
Mzero your comment?

didn't have to wait long!

I was just going to say, we just did this with changmas yesterday and Ben changing his claim

What is 'this' exactly?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im all for a Scare lynch tomorrow.

This is a weird post.... like why not today?

Also I still think you're scum

Anyone want to defend Ulti and tell me why he would be town?

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This made me litterally Lol

htaeD posted...

What is 'this' exactly?

picking up on something suspiciously quickly

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

This is a weird post.... like why not today?

Also I still think you're scum

Anyone want to defend Ulti and tell me why he would be town?

because he's convinced arti is scum and will not lynch anyone but him today

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

This made me litterally Lol

same tbh

UltimaterializerX posted...

Kirby is mortally confirmed town. Watcher is impossible to fake on night 2 in a game this large.

Sbell but Ulti says here Arti is probably town due to his watcher claim??

UltimaterializerX posted...

Also.

##Vote: Arti

My vote will not be moving for the entire day. He is confirmed scum. The common sense viewpoint is "lol two people claimed the same scanner and town went 3head on themselves".

Kirby, HB, and myself are all confirmed town. I had Plum in my 99% town pile and was going to more or less say so today.

I have town reads on Justin, Death, Stu, Sultan, Red, Isquen, and Abacus.

Scum -> PoE order list past Arti, because I am not signing off on anything else but an Arti lynch today: Scare, MZero, Chris, Lea.

Ahh okay im just confused maybe

arti duplicates hb results

then hb gets his results flat out stolen.

it's hard to argue it's not all related to arti and a scum power.

Checking the people who were online during the changmas shift.
Chris started it, I think his stance is/was clear to anyone.

Arti also helped start it, talking with Chris about possible suspects like Changmas (but also Abacus, Mzero and eventually JC). Chris just happened to pick Changmas out of those four. I dont like how Arti seemed to let Chris do all the talking afterwards.
He seemed to be in a pretty funny mood then after the Gladiate too. I can only assume he believed Kirby to be town.

Red bought Chang being scum but said little else and seemed uninterested in following the gladiation process. He really needs to start ramping up his game.

Ulti also agreed with Chris and voted Chang, despite calling chang town earlier I believe. But he went back to Arti once Changs defense came in. But he got easily talked out of that and flopped back down to changmas' lynch.
If it werent for the flavor scans, I would call Ulti scum for sure here. Though I suppose I should refrain on such judgments anyway until we know what Arti is.

Sultan hated the shift away from Arti it but agrees to pressure Chang. Then he remembered to vote to make more pressure. He did on the other hand suspect Kirby more than Chang, enough to vote Kirby.
But he relented after the full caim from Kirby (and by that time Chang was already doomed anyway). I dont mind Sultans behavior in all of this..

Kirby accepted the points Chris made but was not sure about not lynching Arti and made arguments for Changs sake. It all seems in character with the stuff leading up to the Gladiate at least.

Mzero thought Chang would have loved to meta more if he were town, but he mostly argued in favor of Chang being town and eventually decided to vote Scare instead. Original, but not sure if its good.

ViolentAbacus agreed with a lot of stuff mentioned by others and voted Chang. He stayed a bit on the sidelines after that. Nothing impressive either way.

HB was weirded out by the situation but thought chang could still be scum as well. Then he voted Chang, reasoning losing another flavorcop would be worse than losing a vanilla. Fair enough I suppose.

JC was okay with the pressure on chang, but wanted to kill the counterclaimed person more. Then after the gladiate he even started to reason how Kirby could be scum. At the time I considered it to be good that JC at least tried to think about stuff while a lot of other players were checked out already. But I do wonder, if Kirby is town too, that scum would obviously want him dead more.

Lea easily jumps on chang, but she already said she disliked the Arti lynch anyway. So I cannot say she was behaving out of the ordinary. But it still gives me a bad feeling that she basically started the move away from Arti.

Sbell and Isquen came in after the gladiate and both felt Changmas were town. I can say little about that.

I do wonder which darksider even gets a thieflike powe

...power

htaeD posted...

Sbell and Isquen came in after the gladiate and both felt Changmas were town. I can say little about that.

Between the three involved parties, I thought chang was scummier than Kirby despite a town unfriendly role, and arti scummier than both of them.

Going to work now.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Arti is 100%. Scare is like, 95%. Take the surest thing first. Im not sharing my info because claiming is unnecessary at this point, but Arti dies. The end.

With 4 people on him I don't think you even needed to say this much.

Ulti... if we lynch arti and he is town.. does that Make HB scum?

htaeD posted...

Red bought Chang being scum but said little else and seemed uninterested in following the gladiation process. He really needs to start ramping up his game.

What process are you even talking about. It became A or B and it looked like a probable town gladiate.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Arti is 100%. Scare is like, 95%. Take the surest thing first. Im not sharing my info because claiming is unnecessary at this point, but Arti dies. The end.

you don't have any info.

you aren't mortally confirmable.

if town you are just vanilla who will never eat a night kill because there is too much 50/50 on you and scum need more mislynch pastabilities.

also very funny to hear you say claiming is pointless when all you wanted was a mass at the start of the game.

Well its more that I wish you'd been more vocal during the parts before the Gladiator came in.

What are the claimed/confirmed actions on Chris?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Arti is 100%. Scare is like, 95%. Take the surest thing first. Im not sharing my info because claiming is unnecessary at this point, but Arti dies. The end.

Yeah but scum seems to be shooting wildly now. Who knows who is next?
Then again I dont know why anyone brought up the word 'info' to begin with.

Obellisk posted...

What are the claimed/confirmed actions on Chris?

I believe it was just Kirby watcher and another person who he saw go to me. Although Ben said that igcd likely guarded me n1. I kind of just believe him because it seems like the thing he would do but it is pointless to speculate.

So Kirby watched Chris and that was the night Ben neighbored Chris?

I remember that there were two actions on Chris when Ben neighbors him.

(with so many players and double roles (eff you han), it's been a lot for someone who hasn't taken any notes.)

No Kirby watched Chris night2
He was a Gladiator on Day3

Actually that makes me wonder if Kirby can Gladiate again

Ben was n1. Kirby watcher is pokemon so that is n2. Kirby claims someone else watched me and I see no reason to doubt that or to doubt that person had good intentions n2

Oh and I forget if we bothered to talk but Ben's action was indeed a day action.

so n1 Ben neighbors
n2 kirby watches as pokemon and says there was a second watcher or a second targeter?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Oh and I forget if we bothered to talk but Ben's action was indeed a day action.

Yeah that was mentioned by Ben too

Obellisk posted...

so n1 Ben neighbors
n2 kirby watches as pokemon and says there was a second watcher or a second targeter?

A second watcher would be a second targeter anyway, but I think he just meant someone else targeted Chris

htaeD posted...

A second watcher would be a second targeter anyway, but I think he just meant someone else targeted Chris

right, I just didn't remember if a watcher sees what roles target a person or just that they were targeted by another person

It would be kind of funny if ulti is scum and mewtwo and both sultan and isquen were right to suspect him for being mewtwo despite the host saying not to flavor meta.

But unfortunately count mewtwo would be far and away the worst name we have had so far so it's probably just r2mew2 or mew2d2

DoomTheGyarados posted...

But unfortunately count mewtwo would be far and away the worst name we have had so far so it's probably just r2mew2 or mew2d2

sure those are cute. but what about dootew of mewkoo?

so Ben's neighboring was a day action? can that be discussed a bit more

was that in his flip?

I feel as for count mewkoo breaks the naming so far.

Count dootew is cute but ehh. Given we know pokemon flavor doesn't matter and given game state I think ulti is just barely ok. I agree with a lot of your points but also ulti isn't a binary. A lot of things would have to be true for him to be scum and it's like... it's possible but he's not the guy.

Obellisk posted...

was that in his flip?

Yeah it was in his flip.

Obellisk posted...

because he's convinced arti is scum and will not lynch anyone but him today

pot, meet kettle

Hbthebattle posted...

pot, meet kettle

we've met.

but that hasn't got any bearing on my response ti Sultan.

it is a fact that ulti wants to lynch arti today and that explains why scare tomorrow makes sense and isn't necessarily a Scummy thing to come out of his mouth.

literally defending the guy I've been tunneling and I'm getting shit like I'm voting him right now...

come on hb.

Hb is as full of sass as he is scanning roles

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Ulti... if we lynch arti and he is town.. does that Make HB scum?

I have not read many topics but I would probably lynch Sultan if Arti flips town. Looks like a setup post

so why don't you just scan me hb, god...

teehee

Fastbreak posted...

I have not read many topics but I would probably lynch Sultan if Arti flips town. Looks like a setup post

Lol