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andylt 04/18/22 1:48:25 PM #1: |
Will we ever see megas again?
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Following on from yesterday, in this topic we are looking at the megas themselves. These 8 pokemon may never get true evolutions so this is all we have to work with! How many (if any) of these are better than their base form? Previous results Basic early rodent: Zigzagoon > Bidoof >> Sentret Evolved rodent: Furret >> Raticate > Linoone Basic early bird: Starly > Pidgey > Hoothoot Middle bird: Pidgeotto > Fletchinder > Corvisquire Fully evolved bird: Corviknight > Staraptor > Talonflame Larval bug: Caterpie > Venipede > Sewaddle Middle bug: Swadloon > Charjabug > Whirlipede Fully evolved 3-stage bug: Scolipede > Butterfree > Beedrill Basic early 2-stage bug: Cutiefly > Spinarak > Combee Evolved 2-stage bug: Shedinja > Ribombee > Centiskorch Pikaclone: Mimikyu >> Emolga > Pachirisu Basic 2-stage primary ghost: Misdreavus > Drifloon > Pumpkaboo Evolved 2-stage primary ghost: Mismagius > Trevenant > Cofagrigus Basic 2-stage pure grass: Skiddo > Tangela >> Petilil Evolved 2-stage pure grass: Lilligant > Gogoat > Lurantis Basic 2-stage primary fire: Vulpix > Growlithe >>> Slugma Evolved 2-stage primary fire: Arcanine > Ninetales >> Alolan Marowak Basic crustacean: Dwebble > Krabby > Clauncher Evolved crustacean: Clawitzer > Golisopod > Kingler Basic 2-stage pure ground: Cubone > Sandshrew > Phanpy Evolved 2-stage pure ground: Sandslash > Marowak > Mudsdale 2-stage baby: Riolu > Mantyke > Munchlax 3-stage baby: Elekid > Pichu > Togepi Basic fossil: Tyrunt > Omanyte > Archen Evolved fossil: Kabutops > Tyrantrum > Archeops Chimeric fossil: Dracovish > Arctozolt > Dracozolt Basic human-like: Abra > Ralts > Machop Middle human-like: Kadabra > Electabuzz > Machoke Fully evolved human-like: Gardevoir > Alakazam > Gallade Basic 2-stage primary ice: Alolan Vulpix > Snom > Cubchoo Evolved 2-stage primary ice: Froslass > Alolan Ninetales > Glalie Basic mollusc: Shellos > Shellder > Inkay Evolved mollusc: Cloyster > Gastrodon > Octillery Basic 2-stage primary fighting: Pancham > Galarian Farfetch'd > Mienfoo Evolved 2-stage primary fighting: Lucario > Pangoro > Mienshao/Sirfetch'd Basic pseudo-legendary: Goomy > Dratini > Larvitar Middle pseudo-legendary: Dragonair >>>> Drakloak > Gabite Fully evolved pseudo-legendary: Tyranitar > Metagross > Garchomp Basic pure poison: Koffing > Ekans > Trubbish Evolved pure poison: Arbok > Garbodor > Muk Basic 2-stage primary electric: Blitzle > Yamper > Voltorb Evolved 2-stage primary electric: Toxtricity > Zebstrika > Electrode Single stage rock: Shuckle > Corsola > Relicanth Single stage flying: Hawlucha > Skarmory > Aerodactyl Basic primary fairy: Flabb > Snubbull > Spritzee Middle fairy: Jigglypuff >> Clefairy > Togetic Fully evolved fairy: Togekiss > Alcremie > Clefable Basic 2-stage pure normal: Meowth > Wooloo > Teddiursa Evolved 2-stage pure normal: Snorlax >> Ursaring/Cinccino Basic 2-stage primary dark: Houndour > Sneasel > Zorua Evolved 2-stage primary dark: Houndoom > Weavile > Bisharp Ultra Beast: Buzzwole > Guzzlord > Nihilego/Kartana Basic 2-stage land-based water: Wooper > Slowpoke > Buizel Evolved 2-stage land-based water: Araquanid > Quagsire > Dewgong Basic primary steel: Aron > Honedge > Magnemite Middle steel: Lairon > Magneton >> Doublade Fully evolved steel: Aegislash > Aggron > Steelix Basic 3-stage primary grass: Bellsprout > Oddish >> Hoppip Middle primary grass: Roselia > Weepinbell > Steenee Fully evolved 3-stage primary grass: Bellossom > Roserade > Shiftry Version A cover legendary: Ho-Oh > Groud ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-hotdogturtle-- 04/18/22 1:53:31 PM #2: |
Kangaskhan was the only good Mega, period. And I'd much rather nuke the whole system than bring it back just for 1 Pokemon. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KommunistKoala 04/18/22 1:55:36 PM #3: |
Mega Kangaskhan > Sableye > Mawile > Pinsir > Heracross > Aerodactyl > Absol >>> Audino --- does anyone even read this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 04/18/22 1:56:59 PM #4: |
Would love to vote Kangaskhan because just takin' out the baby is the best thing but Mega Mawile is perfect --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 04/18/22 2:02:04 PM #5: |
Mega Kang is inspired but I went with Aero I also enjoy Pinsir --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Not Dave 04/18/22 2:08:59 PM #6: |
Mawile because it turned a mediocre Pokmon into an absolute force but Kang did the same thing --- ND ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CassandraCain 04/18/22 2:29:57 PM #7: |
I actually like all of these, even Audino. Went with Heracross again since the hercules beetle horn is badass. And this time I know he won't stomp. I can see why people don't like them though, they are very busy designs and none of them are truly better than their base forms. Maybe Sableye, really diggin the huge gem. --- I don't kill... but I don't lose either. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 04/18/22 2:31:12 PM #8: |
Hot take on megas: fun mechanic, much better than Z-moves and dynamax, but the designs normally suck. It's possible to make a design too simple, but that's much better than some of these overdesigned monstrosities with bits of Duplo stuck onto them. The Gen 3 ones are okay, Kangaskhan is okay, the rest are big downgrades. Especially Aerodactyl. Mawile > Absol > Sableye > Kangaskhan > Pinsir > Heracross > Audio > Aerodactyl --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 04/18/22 2:31:42 PM #9: |
Mega Mawile. I miss Mega Gardevoir too. Should just replace the final evolution with Mega Gardevoir and do the same for others/give them an evolution if they arent bringing Megas back tbh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 04/18/22 2:34:52 PM #10: |
dynamaxes the worst --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RyoCaliente 04/18/22 2:47:34 PM #11: |
Mega Kanga, Mega Sableye and Mega Audino are my favourites, the rest have a bit too much going on. --- How paralyzingly dull, boring and tedious! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GTM 04/18/22 3:02:56 PM #12: |
swordz9 posted... Mega Mawile. I miss Mega Gardevoir too. Should just replace the final evolution with Mega Gardevoir and do the same for others/give them an evolution if they arent bringing Megas back tbh I agree that they should take the time (but I don't see it in their plans at all) for a giant open-ended retcon. Theyve already done some like removing excess moves. Turn some megas into evolutions. Change some of the evolution levels, Braviary is like level 55 cause of BW? Lower it to make it make sense. Fucked up not giving ice a resistance, give them one. Raise the stats of some gen 1-3 pokemon to make them more viable. Stuff like that. --- GTM - Boko United survivor and dillos and nintendo and you are awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 04/18/22 3:10:23 PM #13: |
Mawile > Sableye > Kangaskhan > Audino > Heracross > Absol > Pinsir > Aerodactyl tbh only the first three are good. The others are either a bit too much or look like they just threw wings quickly onto the prior form. They really should bring Megas back because that was a great game mechanic, and not one that got abruptly stale like Z-moves or one that broke the game like Dynamax. --- BlueCrystalTear | You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer | ((FREE HUGS)) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andylt 04/18/22 5:47:12 PM #14: |
Well I for one like Mega Pinsir! I wish they'd changed its body a bit more but that'd be more suitable for a real evolution I guess, but the wings and pincers are cool. I also like Kangaskhan and Sableye, and Heracross is alright. The rest are too edgy/cluttered for me, like most megas tbh. GTM posted... I agree that they should take the time (but I don't see it in their plans at all) for a giant open-ended retcon. Theyve already done some like removing excess moves. Turn some megas into evolutions. Change some of the evolution levels, Braviary is like level 55 cause of BW? Lower it to make it make sense. Fucked up not giving ice a resistance, give them one. Raise the stats of some gen 1-3 pokemon to make them more viable. Stuff like that.I wish they would do stuff like this! In general TPC are way too attached to keeping a continuity with this sort of stuff, but they gave new evo methods to old pokemon in gen 8 so hopefully that's the start of a trend. --- Very slowly becoming a Final Fantasy aficionado. Recently beat: Lightning Returns ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hylianknight3 04/18/22 6:16:37 PM #15: |
Oops, I accidentally voted for Mega Sableye instead of Mega Mawile, who is far and away the best. --- The azuarc of the contest universe is long, but it bends toward Guruship. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 04/18/22 6:20:56 PM #16: |
I think the main two changes I wanna see are evolution changes (Unova evolution levels are rancid and they really need to keep the trade evo item around. Probably won't because it may encourage people to pay for online, but still!) and some minor BST tweaks for the absolute worst mons. Stuff like Swoobat, Magcargo, Liepard, Seaking, Cherrim, Camerupt, Carnivine, Banette... They just doesn't have to suck that much, yanno? Also I would like Water losing its Ice resistance, Bug resisting Dark and Ice resisting Ground please and thanks x --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kenri 04/18/22 7:03:01 PM #17: |
Mawile. I absolutely hate most of these lmao --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnkboy907 04/18/22 7:13:59 PM #18: |
I was very annoyed when they didn't continue buffing BSTs in Gen VIII like they did in VI and VII. --- Change is weird. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LusterSoldier 04/19/22 12:18:03 AM #19: |
Absol > Kangaskhan > Pinsir > Audino > Mawile > Heracross > Sableye Same ranking as yesterday's poll. I voted in yesterday's poll based on the Mega Evolutions, not their base forms because I didn't think we would have a poll like this one. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as azuarc, Guru Champ! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 04/19/22 12:46:08 AM #20: |
Mega Kanga, a shame they nerved her so bad. --- "So much love in his words." - RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-hotdogturtle-- 04/19/22 1:13:18 AM #21: |
LusterSoldier posted... I voted in yesterday's poll based on the Mega Evolutions, not their base formsLooks like we found some illegitimate votes that need to be discarded. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 04/19/22 5:41:25 AM #22: |
It was straight up said that we weren't judging the mega versions. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andylt 04/19/22 6:58:47 AM #23: |
I'm glad some of you read the opening posts lol Ice definitely needs a big buff, especially as they insist on forever making defensively built ice mons. --- Very slowly becoming a Final Fantasy aficionado. Recently beat: Lightning Returns ... Copied to Clipboard!
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