Board 8 > Elden Ring Mafia Topic 2: Runes are not Souls

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masterplum
03/22/22 7:53:13 AM
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Use this topic at 475

As expressed in the signup topic, please do your own votals (Or coerce Tidus). I have work and an infant

  1. Ben
  2. Changmas
  3. Corrik
  4. Crescent
  5. Death
  6. Ghetis
  7. IGCD
  8. isquen
  9. Marth
  10. Mzero
  11. Panth
  12. Red
  13. Sbell
  14. Scare
  15. Shoe
  16. Sultan
  17. Ulti


17 alive, 9 to lynch

Day Ends in roughly 35 hours, 7 PM EST on Wednesday

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:01:57 AM
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Alright, was waiting for the new topic to discuss this, but first I need to know if Corrik has continued to do nothing but grudge vote me since I'm not wasting my sanity reading through his posts.

Because I have an actual comparison to the last game I played with him (2+ years ago, probably) if he's still doing it, and I decided I'd rather talk about it before I went to the dentist.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:03:18 AM
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And this isn't meant to stir the pot, it's an actually important question that ties into his alignment.

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htaeD
03/22/22 11:03:25 AM
#4:


Nah he has posted a bit more. Not much but still

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:03:59 AM
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And Death was there for it, though he probably wouldn't remember.

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PunishedBen
03/22/22 11:04:25 AM
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No he's doing a lot more than that. Notably he said Mattress was obviously scum.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 11:04:28 AM
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crescent,

i do not think he's grudge voting you.

I believe that if we are to look at the situation that shouldn't be named from his eyes, lynching you and you flipping scum (presumably) would only work to confirm him as town.

The fact that you are unwilling to read what he even has to say (for whatever reason) may just fuel his reasoning for voting you more just because in the grand scheme of things it is anti-town.

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htaeD
03/22/22 11:05:16 AM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
And Death was there for it, though he probably wouldn't remember.


Hey now. I can try.
What game was it?

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IfGodCouldDie
03/22/22 11:07:35 AM
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changmas posted...
IGCD is trying to become very buddy buddy with Crescent this whole game and basically nobody else. Why do you even need to ask Crescent specifically what to do or what 'content' you should make? Besides, it's already pretty evident through Crescent's extensive posting thus far exactly where she thinks a few players should be poked and prodded. You really shouldn't need to be told what to do to help with that. It's so weird.

And you go on to say you'd "like to help create as much of it as you can". But instead of actually making any posts of your own reads or analysis you just leave and don't post anything.


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Fell asleep, it was like 2 in the am iirc, I know what it is like to be in a bit of a manic state and she said that's what she was in, I wanted to utilize that, I'd hardly call our initial interaction me being buddy buddy, taking two posts that happened back to back and say I've been doing something all game is pretty disingenuous.


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IfGodCouldDie
03/22/22 11:08:26 AM
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htaeD posted...
New topic IGCD
Yes, I figured that out. Thanks buddy.

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/22/22 11:08:45 AM
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Corrik did say he didn't think Ulti's post want a personal attack and that he doesn't like Mattress.


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Corrik7
03/22/22 11:11:42 AM
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If she were town, she would be reading all posts to try and have as much information as possible to find scum tbqh.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:12:18 AM
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htaeD posted...
Nah he has posted a bit more. Not much but still
This is what I thought you'd say.

The last time I played a game with Corrik, he was doing this to me almost the entire game. I was town confirmed late in the game and he was still doing this endlessly. This is because he knew what would happen: He ruined the game for me so much he turned me suicidal and I actively got myself lynched by the town because I just wanted to get the hell out of the game. This wasn't the first time this had happened in a game. He's a player who knew I had a breaking point and maliciously hit that breaking point until I snapped. That was the last game I'd done anything concerning Corrik. You were there on that day I snapped.

Corrik is already showing signs of the same thing he did in that game. Immediate pressure without an immediate reason, while he "sort of" does other things. 90% of his focus that game was on me, but he kept finding excuses not to lynch me at the end of the day just so he could keep me alive and grind me down further.

Corrik was scum that game. His plan was to both harass me and keep me alive for days so that I'd snap and make myself a mislynch later. I'm nipping this in the bud now.

I've got two votes on me and they're both by scum. Cute.


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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:13:44 AM
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Obellisk posted...
crescent,

i do not think he's grudge voting you.

I believe that if we are to look at the situation that shouldn't be named from his eyes, lynching you and you flipping scum (presumably) would only work to confirm him as town.

The fact that you are unwilling to read what he even has to say (for whatever reason) may just fuel his reasoning for voting you more just because in the grand scheme of things it is anti-town.
All I needed to know is Corrik is repeating what he did the last game I played with him, where he was scum.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:14:37 AM
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And by town confirmed I mean actually 100% confirmed town, and it still didn't stop him.

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htaeD
03/22/22 11:16:48 AM
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While I am not sure Corrik is like that yet in this game (its too early to tell) I know that we will stop it before it gets that far
I do remember it being unpleasant

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:17:38 AM
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htaeD posted...
While I am not sure Corrik is like that yet in this game (its too early to tell) I know that we will stop it before it gets that far
I do remember it being unpleasant
Yes because it was sure stopped last time when scum Corrik used it to run town the hell over and everyone was a buncha pissants about it.

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changmas
03/22/22 11:18:50 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted... Ok, I'll give you a shot. I like the way your playing right now and you've got experience with him and I do not. I personally don't really have too much of an issue with his play right now, but it's still early and we gotta start somewhere.

##Unvote
##Vote: Isquen

Well this is the prior context. We can go back one more post even.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
I respond one post at a time. I don't agree with your assertion about him being scum. I don't believe that his opening post is scummy. I do think you're being a little more aggressive and out spoken than I am used to seeing from you, but it has been awhile since there have been games and I'm not sure if you played in the last game so I am willing to chalk it up to having an extended break allowed you to come in with a little more vigor. Panthera I don't have a read on because I don't think any of his posts have really been all that contentful.

So now we've got 3 consecutive posts going from "I don't believe his post is scummy" -> "Ok, I'll give you a shot" -> "Is there any content I can make for you?". Getting a little more buddy buddy every time, no?


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changmas
03/22/22 11:20:11 AM
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oh I guess "I don't agree with your assertion about him being scum" is maybe the better quote to take there, actually

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Corrik7
03/22/22 11:20:34 AM
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htaeD posted...
While I am not sure Corrik is like that yet in this game (its too early to tell) I know that we will stop it before it gets that far
I do remember it being unpleasant
You should also remember her retelling is false and nobody made her act anyway at all. The onus was entirely on herself. I as scum discredited her as town so people wouldn't listen to her. That's called playing scum well. Just like I discredited Chris last game mightily. Difference is Chris doesn't woe is me. Be careful of woe is me. Remember I alluded to this last game in my one post regarding Crescent. It's used to gain sympathy and discourage voting of her.

She wants to keep making this game about her so far. As you can see, I never posted about her one single time until I realized I was literally unable to see her posts and people's posts in relation.

I could care less who is in the game. You are all the same to me besides evaluating your play vs your past tendencies.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:21:39 AM
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Ben and IGCD both voted Isquen effectively just to follow me.

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Corrik7
03/22/22 11:23:05 AM
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Also, as scum she says I would wear her down and keep her til the end where she implodes. Which, would be smart because Crescent does unravel herself and becomes a nonfactor late in games as Town, but here I am voting her now with sound reasoning why, which continues to pile up. Thus, I should be town to her, right?

Hmmmm.

That said Underthemattress is scum too.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 11:27:37 AM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
UnderUrMattress posted...
Isn't this something that you could've just privately messaged the mod instead of breaking the game on page 3 lol
Corrik probably wanted to know if I've already been attacking/voting for him.

Which I admit I've been really tempted to do but...
Page 3. You volley at Corrik.

Crescent-Moon posted...
I'm genuinely not surprised at the pettiness and also just don't care.

Corrik could be unblockable bulletproof town doctor and it's still in town's best interests to remove him immediately.

However I'm interested in actually playing the game and scumhunting, not playing grudges.
Page 4, you again go at corrik.

Corrik never actually attacked you at all.

You (deliberately or inadvertantly) made an error this game and that has led to Corriks vote upon you. I'm not seeing any of this attack you claim exists on you.


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htaeD
03/22/22 11:28:00 AM
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Okay in the interest of pure gameplay then
Crescent, this is what Corrik specifically said about you.

Crescent probably actually is scum btw. It's day 1 and she is over here overly trying with actually no data while acting like she has actual data. Either A. She is scum trying to look good or B. She is on a conspiracy theorist level of gameplay.

And I know by now Blade has ingrained into her Day 1 is a s***show and it's a coinflip due to lack of information, so I'd guess the former. Though I guess I don't rule out the latter either

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:28:19 AM
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Corrik volleyed first by publicly talking about being blocked, which probably should've gotten him modkilled.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:28:52 AM
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htaeD posted...
Okay in the interest of pure gameplay then
Crescent, this is what Corrik specifically said about you.
Death, you know full well I'm capable of lynching scum day 1.

I've done it to you multiple times!

Also done it to IGCD.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:29:23 AM
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(So what a shock that post you quoted was a lie)

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:29:56 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I am on you and I have far more charisma than those two.

Why do you suspect Isquen? Id ask about Corrik but frankly it seems like a personal problem with you and him and I dont want to derail the game.
Because he's acting completely the opposite of how he acted last game. His candor is off. His reactions are WAY off.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:31:00 AM
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And that's something MZero himself flat out admitted was correct after originally disagreeing with it.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 11:31:59 AM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Corrik volleyed first by publicly talking about being blocked, which probably should've gotten him modkilled.


not to argue that point further because its neither here nor there but with that logic shouldn't you both have received such treatment?

I disagree that Corrik shot first. I think, based on your demeaner so far you've came into this game with a shield up, ready to go at it with him regardless of what would come about. I'm not discounting your feelings or past experiences, I just think you are the one taking things very personal and grudgey, not him.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:32:59 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I have issues reading new people (especially when they hate me for no reason), so Id have issues noticing.
Isquen has showed significantly more concern for how he looks, and he responded to pressure with a blatant countervote followed by saying he will never unvote for any reason.

Last game he got antagonistic and counter-shaded anyone who voted him, but he kept himself in check. The blatant defensive countervote (to which Marth immediately responded "ew", and what a twist Corrik doesn't like Marth, who I do like) goes against everything he did last game.

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htaeD
03/22/22 11:33:36 AM
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Isquen is difficult because as a new player I can see him changing his playstyle enough to warrant this countervoting style.

But on the other hand it is hard to ignore too.

Also I at least agree that I dont think Crescent has no data at all.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:33:50 AM
#35:


Obellisk posted...
not to argue that point further because its neither here nor there but with that logic shouldn't you both have received such treatment?

I disagree that Corrik shot first. I think, based on your demeaner so far you've came into this game with a shield up, ready to go at it with him regardless of what would come about. I'm not discounting your feelings or past experiences, I just think you are the one taking things very personal and grudgey, not him.
Gotta admit I'm impressed that he's already making himself the victim. It took him 3 days to do that last time!

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:36:33 AM
#36:


htaeD posted...
Isquen is difficult because as a new player I can see him changing his playstyle enough to warrant this countervoting style.

But on the other hand it is hard to ignore too.

Also I at least agree that I dont think Crescent has no data at all.
The fact that there are people arguing I have no data suggests those people either aren't town or basically didn't even read three consecutive pages of the topic where I built and continued to build my case.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/22/22 11:38:45 AM
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changmas posted...
Well this is the prior context. We can go back one more post even.

So now we've got 3 consecutive posts going from "I don't believe his post is scummy" -> "Ok, I'll give you a shot" -> "Is there any content I can make for you?". Getting a little more buddy buddy every time, no?
Hpw does that translate to all gsme?

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htaeD
03/22/22 11:38:59 AM
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We also shoudnt keep talking about that event

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Obellisk
03/22/22 11:41:52 AM
#39:


htaeD posted...
We also shoudnt keep talking about that event


refusing to acknowledge that it is part of corrik's reasoning leads to misinformation being spread.

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htaeD
03/22/22 11:43:56 AM
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It shouldnt be a part of his reasoning anymore at this point
I dont think it is either?

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:50:40 AM
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We now have at least 10 different people who have received at least one vote, by the way. I don't think I've seen anything quite like this.

I feel like I should make a list of people making excuses for Isquen's radical change in behavior.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 11:51:03 AM
#42:


death, the picture that crescent is attempting to paint of corrik. Do you see corrik acting in such a way 15 hours into the game?

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:51:49 AM
#43:


Obellisk posted...
death, the picture that crescent is attempting to paint of corrik. Do you see corrik acting in such a way 15 hours into the game?
I've seen him act that way <1 hour into the game.

He plays for ego above all else.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:52:38 AM
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But also SBell is coming off as super fake considering he knows that from experience.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 11:52:58 AM
#45:


Crescent-Moon posted...
I've seen him act that way <1 hour into the game.

He plays for ego above all else.

Right we all have, but do you see it in THIS game?

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UnderUrMattress
03/22/22 11:53:01 AM
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Yooo I'm caught up

Thoughts in a bit

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:53:39 AM
#47:


Obellisk posted...
Right we all have, but do you see it in THIS game?
What I can tell you is multiple people immediately called him out for grudge voting me and completely dismissed his vote.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 11:53:56 AM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
But also SBell is coming off as super fake considering he knows that from experience.

FAKE?

FAAAKKKKEEEEEE?

You are accusing Corrik of playing the victim when it is literally what YOU are doing because he voted you for starting this game incorrectly.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 11:53:57 AM
#49:


Which you'd know if you were, y'know, actually paying attention.

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UnderUrMattress
03/22/22 11:54:01 AM
#50:


Corrik7 posted...
Also, as scum she says I would wear her down and keep her til the end where she implodes. Which, would be smart because Crescent does unravel herself and becomes a nonfactor late in games as Town, but here I am voting her now with sound reasoning why, which continues to pile up. Thus, I should be town to her, right?

Hmmmm.

That said Underthemattress is scum too.
I'd love to talk about why you feel this way.

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