Board 8 > Elden Ring Mafia Topic 2: Runes are not Souls

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Obellisk
03/22/22 12:56:39 PM
#151:


changmas posted...
btw anybody wanna speculate a bit on setup?

What do we think here?
4 maf 13 town?
5 maf 12 town feels a bit strong to me.
4 maf 12 town 1 independent? seems like that could fit too

what good does that do right now?

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Corrik7
03/22/22 12:57:14 PM
#152:


Obellisk posted...
what good does that do right now?
fakes content

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IfGodCouldDie
03/22/22 12:57:29 PM
#153:


Shonen_Bat posted...
IGCD playing a line between buddying up to Crescent and being difficult feels super non-genuine, especially those two posts about making more content. Why do you need to call that out when it just naturally happens by playing the game?
What? How do these things happen? At no point was I being difficult. Is anyone willing to vouch for what it actually looks like when I'm being difficult? I really do not like this narrative that people are trying to create and I know it is going to come back and irritate the duck out of me later.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 12:58:41 PM
#154:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
and irritate the duck out of me later.

quack

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 12:58:51 PM
#155:


changmas posted...
btw anybody wanna speculate a bit on setup?

What do we think here?
4 maf 13 town?
5 maf 12 town feels a bit strong to me.
4 maf 12 town 1 independent? seems like that could fit too
This is way too early to be discussing setup. I do suspect I'm going to have most of the scumteam on me at some point today though.

Secondly, third parties are not to be humored unless there's reasonable suspicion that one exists.

Thirdly, 5/17 fits the optimal "25-33%" ratio and 4/17 doesn't.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 12:59:31 PM
#156:


Obellisk posted...
what good does that do right now?
Absolutely nothing.

It's also just wrong.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 1:00:08 PM
#157:


Obellisk posted...
quack
Sorry, just listening to the Space Duck.

...What a majestic creature.

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Leafeon13N
03/22/22 1:00:15 PM
#158:


The 150 or so posts of public spat was particularly worthless.

Corriks logic for lynching Crescent could just as easily be applied to lynch him.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 1:01:05 PM
#159:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
What? How do these things happen? At no point was I being difficult. Is anyone willing to vouch for what it actually looks like when I'm being difficult? I really do not like this narrative that people are trying to create and I know it is going to come back and irritate the duck out of me later.
You naturally come off that way. It's something people just get used to.

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changmas
03/22/22 1:02:29 PM
#160:


Obellisk posted...
what good does that do right now?

Crescent-Moon posted...
Absolutely nothing.

It's also just wrong.

sorry i forgot the only thing we should do right now is tread over the same corrik/crescent conversation for the 10th time and discuss Sbell/Sultan as if there's something crucial there right now on day 1


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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 1:02:34 PM
#161:


Leafeon13N posted...
The 150 or so posts of public spat was particularly worthless.

Corriks logic for lynching Crescent could just as easily be applied to lynch him.

This was many posts to read and a lot of things I expect we'll find not very useful by the time the gane is over.
Oh I agree here. It's mostly just a mire.

Have you actually commented on Isquen at all yet? Refresh me if you have.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 1:04:12 PM
#162:


changmas posted...
sorry i forgot the only thing we should do right now is tread over the same corrik/crescent conversation for the 10th time and discuss Sbell/Sultan as if there's something crucial there right now on day 1

12 other players you could discuss which would provide content.

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 1:05:33 PM
#163:


changmas posted...
sorry i forgot the only thing we should do right now is tread over the same corrik/crescent conversation for the 10th time and discuss Sbell/Sultan as if there's something crucial there right now on day 1
Bat just came up as a discussion piece and has since returned to post. You spoke about Ghetsis' nonexistence instead.

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:06:58 PM
#164:


Leafeon13N posted...
The 150 or so posts of public spat was particularly worthless.

Corriks logic for lynching Crescent could just as easily be applied to lynch him.

This was many posts to read and a lot of things I expect we'll find not very useful by the time the gane is over.
True, but I can't really lynch myself.

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changmas
03/22/22 1:09:26 PM
#165:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Bat just came up as a discussion piece and has since returned to post. You spoke about Ghetsis' nonexistence instead.

I'm pretty much in agreement with everything Bat says in that post. His stuff about IGCD and Isquen is more or less what I've already said about them.

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htaeD
03/22/22 1:13:07 PM
#166:


changmas posted...


sorry i forgot the only thing we should do right now is tread over the same corrik/crescent conversation for the 10th time and discuss Sbell/Sultan as if there's something crucial there right now on day 1



Geez the venom on this guy
I think thats a town trait, but not a likeable one

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 1:14:37 PM
#167:


htaeD posted...
Geez the venom on this guy
I think thats a town trait, but not a likeable one
I wasn't in Chang's previous game so in this case I have nothing to go on concerning him.

A lot of people just don't like day 1s though.

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:14:52 PM
#168:


Scum:
Chang
Crescent
Under

in that order.

Carry on.

Town
Sbell

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htaeD
03/22/22 1:16:01 PM
#169:


I'm good. If I was spose to read it, it would have been available for me to read in real time with the context of the time it happened.


And since you are apparently not going to bother
(Or you have read it and are just trying to provoke me)
But this is what Crescent said on Isquen after the initial comment about his 'still at work' line.

For me it's more a matter of his cadence. My memory is telling me that Isquen was simply not concerned with how he looked early in FFXIV Mafia. He made a godawful vote late in the first day for no damned reason knowing it'd look bad on him. Ulti, for example, specifically leaned town on Isquen day 1 in that game based on the way he was acting. He was quick to attack me for pressuring him off that terrible vote and it made him look even worse. He didn't care.

But there was a newbie who was definitely concerned about his appearance on day 1, and that was Tidus, who was scum. He got away with more than he should've just by being new. In just two posts, I'm already getting vibes from Isquen similar to the vibes Tidus was giving off in FFXIV.

Scum is more likely to care about how it looks than town. Newbie scum falls into this trap early and Tidus certainly did in FFXIV. To make that first post so quickly into the game strikes me as someone who is significantly more concerned about his appearance than he was in his previous game, as town. To follow it up with that kind of useless fluff strikes me as someone posting because he feels he has to.


And then her vote shortly afterwards

Actually you know what let's break my usual mold.

##Vote: Isquen

It's been all of two posts, sure, but I think he's scum this time.

There now you can actually say whether or not her play lacks data. Because it sure would be bad to make such a claim without having read all of her stuff.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/22/22 1:16:48 PM
#170:


changmas posted...
I'm pretty much in agreement with everything Bat says in that post. His stuff about IGCD and Isquen is more or less what I've already said about them.
You also completely stopped responding to me when I was talking to you about your read.

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/22/22 1:18:03 PM
#171:


Shonen_Bat posted...
IGCD playing a line between buddying up to Crescent and being difficult feels super non-genuine, especially those two posts about making more content. Why do you need to call that out when it just naturally happens by playing the game?

What??? I'm not entirely sure I get what Bat is saying here. Bat what do you mean?

Isquen's posts generally don't read that great, but it could just be new player reacting poorly, I've been there. I haven't seen enough of him to speak on whether this is normal gameplay for him.
I agree but im thinking on the line of its more of a null thing since he is a new player.
The only thing I dont like is his "im never changing my vote line"
That is what makes me think twice about him.



Corrik gets a pass I think most other players wouldn't, and that's all I want to say about it. This shouldn't have become a big public thing.

I don't think I've seen you give any real reasoning for this despite being asked multiple times. I'd like to hear some thoughts from you on this.

What else you got Bat?

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:18:06 PM
#172:


htaeD posted...
And since you are apparently not going to bother
(Or you have read it and are just trying to provoke me)
But this is what Crescent said on Isquen after the initial comment about his 'still at work' line.

And then her vote shortly afterwards

There now you can actually say whether or not her play lacks data. Because it sure would be bad to make such a claim without having read all of her stuff.
Where exactly did Isquen care how he looked?

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 1:18:38 PM
#173:


htaeD posted...
And since you are apparently not going to bother
(Or you have read it and are just trying to provoke me)
But this is what Crescent said on Isquen after the initial comment about his 'still at work' line.

And then her vote shortly afterwards

There now you can actually say whether or not her play lacks data. Because it sure would be bad to make such a claim without having read all of her stuff.
In fairness I added a LOT more as time went on.

I decided to vote him as reaction bait. I thought scum Isquen would immediately countervote me, and town Isquen wouldn't.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 1:18:56 PM
#174:


Corrik7 posted...
Town
Sbell


see you day 2

wweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 1:19:13 PM
#175:


Well, I should say I hoped scum Isquen would immediately countervote me, because I didn't think town Isquen would.

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:19:29 PM
#176:


Obellisk posted...
see you day 2

wweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@ me Day 2, bruh. Peace!

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htaeD
03/22/22 1:19:29 PM
#177:


I should add that I dont necessarily agree with her take on Isquen, so you dont have to ask me that.

It is a fact to me that Isquen cared about how he looked back in Fire Emblem Mafia anyway

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 1:20:49 PM
#178:


htaeD posted...
I should add that I dont necessarily agree with her take on Isquen, so you dont have to ask me that.

It is a fact to me that Isquen cared about how he looked back in Fire Emblem Mafia anyway
Isquen wasn't in FE Mafia. He was only in FFXIV.

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:21:22 PM
#179:


htaeD posted...
I should add that I dont necessarily agree with her take on Isquen, so you dont have to ask me that.

It is a fact to me that Isquen cared about how he looked back in Fire Emblem Mafia anyway
So she had no data?

Like, all we have is a Vanilla claim from Ben which is flimsy at best.

Let me know when you get 3 more claims and we can play ball day 1.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/22/22 1:22:21 PM
#180:


Corrik7 posted...
So she had no data?

Like, all we have is a Vanilla claim from Ben which is flimsy at best.

Let me know when you get 3 more claims and we can play ball day 1.
Alright town vanilla

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:22:46 PM
#181:


BTW my boi death is town too. He is being lazy and facilitating instead of doing the work himself today, but he is town. <3

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IfGodCouldDie
03/22/22 1:22:50 PM
#182:


Now someone else claim so Corrik and Death can play ball.

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:22:56 PM
#183:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Alright town vanilla
Flavor?

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Obellisk
03/22/22 1:23:24 PM
#184:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Now someone else claim so Corrik and Death can play ball.


you had teh red miller claim.

does that cover you?

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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 1:23:33 PM
#185:


Side note:

Red I want to believe you are town please start providing more than single hit-and-run posts.

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:23:50 PM
#186:


Red didn't claim miller.


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Crescent-Moon
03/22/22 1:24:15 PM
#187:


Obellisk posted...
you had teh red miller claim.

does that cover you?
Ben also claimed.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 1:24:23 PM
#188:


Corrik7 posted...
Red didn't claim miller.


was that commentary on bens claim?

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changmas
03/22/22 1:24:33 PM
#189:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
You also completely stopped responding to me when I was talking to you about your read.

oh i actually missed that post sorry

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Hpw does that translate to all gsme?

skimming quickly - perhaps it's a mischaracterization to use the specific words 'all game'. i see some posts about red's miller claim, then you asking me about my thoughts on red's miller claim, then you start answering a bunch of questions from crescent into the 4 post chain i mention above. It's clearly not 'all game' but at that time of me posting that it was the prior 4 posts you had made over the course of a couple hours and i should have characterized it as thus.


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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:24:38 PM
#190:


Obellisk posted...
was that commentary on bens claim?
He forgot a comma.

Miller, claim.

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htaeD
03/22/22 1:24:57 PM
#191:


Crescent-Moon posted...

Isquen wasn't in FE Mafia. He was only in FFXIV.


Right mixed up the names

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htaeD
03/22/22 1:25:20 PM
#192:


Corrik7 posted...
BTW my boi death is town too. He is being lazy and facilitating instead of doing the work himself today, but he is town. <3


Facilitating?

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:25:39 PM
#193:


htaeD posted...
Facilitating?
Asking others to do stuff.

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htaeD
03/22/22 1:26:01 PM
#194:


Corrik7 posted...

So she had no data?

Like, all we have is a Vanilla claim from Ben which is flimsy at best.

Let me know when you get 3 more claims and we can play ball day 1.


I am starting to think you have stricter definitions for data than I do

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htaeD
03/22/22 1:26:27 PM
#195:


Corrik7 posted...

Asking others to do stuff.


I only wanted you to do the homework you should have done already for your 'Crescent lacks data' conclusion.

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:27:44 PM
#196:


htaeD posted...
I only wanted you to do the homework you should have done already for your 'Crescent lacks data' conclusion.
I don't need to do homework. Why do you care what homework I do anyways? Do your own work. Hence, facilitating.

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Obellisk
03/22/22 1:27:45 PM
#197:


we all lack data.

Except for Sultan and his scum team...

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changmas
03/22/22 1:28:08 PM
#198:


Corrik7 posted...
Red didn't claim miller.

Fastbreak posted...
Red have you claimed flavor ?

I would like that, try and get a grasp of the split


red13n posted...
I would prefer not to do that at this time.

red13n posted...
By prefer I mean I'm not sure it necessarily reveals anything and the meta might lead down a dumb road later.

Sure seems like he's commenting on his claim here to me

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Corrik7
03/22/22 1:28:30 PM
#199:


Obellisk posted...
we all lack data.

Except for Sultan and his scum team...
Correct. We have no flips. We have no claims of importance that aren't likely not faked. There is no data so far.

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Shonen_Bat
03/22/22 1:29:37 PM
#200:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
What??? I'm not entirely sure I get what Bat is saying here. Bat what do you mean?

IGCD feels like he's going through hoops to get more out of Crescent instead of just talking to her and having that happen normally. It's not like she's been reserved this game.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
What else you got Bat?

Chang since I woke up has looked like he's trying to talk without committing to actually discussing anything. Ten people have votes today, there's material.

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