Board 8 > Elden Ring Mafia Topic 2: Runes are not Souls

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Ben and IGCD both voted Isquen effectively just to follow me.

Not sure what the point of this post is. You've been campaigning for his lynch and now you want to point out it is working?

Obellisk posted...

FAKE?

FAAAKKKKEEEEEE?

You are accusing Corrik of playing the victim when it is literally what YOU are doing because he voted you for starting this game incorrectly.

Corrik voted me because it gets his rocks off to vote me. There is no other reason.

And given he was outright called out on this by people, I stand by my point.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Not sure what the point of this post is. You've been campaigning for his lynch and now you want to point out it is working?

Chang was dissatisfied with how you followed me. I can't exactly say I'm impressed by it, either.

But at least you're on scum so that's good.

Obellisk posted...

death, the picture that crescent is attempting to paint of corrik. Do you see corrik acting in such a way 15 hours into the game?

No I dont ascribe a personal malice to Corrik like that. But I can still say that I am wary of him trying to discredit players early on as scum.

Sbell using caps lock just makes the anger look fake

htaeD posted...

No I dont ascribe a personal malice to Corrik like that. But I can still say that I am wary of him trying to discredit players early on as scum.

Corrik discredits players early regardless of his alignment, I'd say. Even if he's town, he wants to discredit any loud voice that isn't his.

htaeD posted...

Sbell using caps lock just makes the anger look fake

Yes. Yes it does.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Chang was dissatisfied with how you followed me. I can't exactly say I'm impressed by it, either.

But at least you're on scum so that's good.

Chang also thinks I've been buddying up to you all game, is that how you feel about our interactions as well?

I feel like I've had to pull teeth to actually get the content I want out of you.

...Which is par for the course when dealing with you.

htaeD posted...

Sbell using caps lock just makes the anger look fake

I should have filmed myself hammering down on the keyboard with rage at being called fake over this.

Maybe that anger is genuine then
But it just feels weird to be angry about it when 'being called fake' and 'playing the victim' are not really the same thing.

Maybe that wasn't the best phrase to be going on when I'm visiting a dentist soon...

(dont remind me that I need to make my own appointment)

Crescent-Moon posted...

I feel like I've had to pull teeth to actually get the content I want out of you.

...Which is par for the course when dealing with you.

Where have you been pulling teeth? I've been very active and responding quite often to everyone.

htaeD posted...

Maybe that anger is genuine then
But it just feels weird to be angry about it when 'being called fake' and 'playing the victim' are not really the same thing.

Uh...Was he not being facetious?

im being called fake for putting my effort into the game.

Crescent said corrik playing victim. (he is not)
I am attempting to make Crescent see she is actually playing the victim.

I re-read corrik, he has not done any of the things that Crescent accuses him of (things from previous games apparently). Everything she accuses Corrik of are in fact things she is doing to him.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Uh...Was he not being facetious?

I half assumed so, but now I am confused

htaeD posted...

Maybe that anger is genuine then
But it just feels weird to be angry about it when 'being called fake' and 'playing the victim' are not really the same thing.

There's two things nagging at me.

SBell is ignoring that people have already called it out as a personal attack

SBell is feigning ignorance to the fact that he's got plenty of experience with Corrik himself, and used that to stir the pot even more.

Obellisk posted...

im being called fake for putting my effort into the game.

Crescent said corrik playing victim. (he is not)
I am attempting to make Crescent see she is actually playing the victim.

I re-read corrik, he has not done any of the things that Crescent accuses him of (things from previous games apparently). Everything she accuses Corrik of are in fact things she is doing to him.

The first person to actually bring up the word "victim" was you

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Where have you been pulling teeth? I've been very active and responding quite often to everyone.

I remember asking you the same question like, 4 times.

I disagree on one factor, Sbell. Corrik has tried to downplay her opinion as 'devoid of data'.
The thing is that, as even she said, this is what Corrik does regardless.

Crescent-Moon posted...

SBell is ignoring that people have already called it out as a personal attack

not ignoring anything. I do not agree that him trying to lynch you in order to confirm himself is a personal attack.

Crescent-Moon posted...

SBell is feigning ignorance to the fact that he's got plenty of experience with Corrik himself, and used that to stir the pot even more.

I know corriks play all to well. We've had major issues in games past. I am not seeing him exhibit these traits at this time.

To expound on that: SBell effectively said Corrik was the victim in our exchange and I made a snide comment about it.

That's all that happened there.

Crescent-Moon posted...

The first person to actually bring up the word "victim" was you

it was you.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Gotta admit I'm impressed that he's already making himself the victim. It took him 3 days to do that last time!

htaeD posted...

I disagree on one factor, Sbell. Corrik has tried to downplay her opinion as 'devoid of data'.
The thing is that, as even she said, this is what Corrik does regardless.

Yep.

Naturally anti-town play regardless of alignment.

To be fair to Sbell, I dont think he was calling anyone a victim. Just that you had a grudge when Corrik did not.

Obellisk posted...

FAKE?

FAAAKKKKEEEEEE?

You are accusing Corrik of playing the victim when it is literally what YOU are doing because he voted you for starting this game incorrectly.

htaeD posted...

Sbell using caps lock just makes the anger look fake

Obellisk posted...

im being called fake for putting my effort into the game.

okay what in the absolute world did SBell seriously not do this as a reference to the soulja boy drake meme ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwSlOmtALvw ). i actually can't believe this because it works so perfectly too

Crescent-Moon posted...

I remember asking you the same question like, 4 times.

Why was that again? I even posted the reasoning twice.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Why was that again? I even posted the reasoning twice.

Because of your... one..

post...

at...

a......

time......

thing

Also it took me this long to see what Corriks logic was even..
But using the event in such a way after nobody got punished for it initially, seems exploitative.

But at least there seems to be actual gameplay-related connections between the two now

Crescent-Moon posted...

Because of your... one..

post...

at...

a......

time......

thing

There ya go, it wasn't about being hard to get an answer it was about you being impatient.

htaeD posted...

Also it took me this long to see what Corriks logic was even..
But using the event in such a way after nobody got punished for it initially, seems exploitative.

But at least there seems to be actual gameplay-related connections between the two now

This community has virtually never punished anyone for anything, and that's ultimately why it died.

Not taking that as meaningful.

But yes, we are spiraling down that exact same hill, and we're spiraling down it quickly.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

There ya go, it wasn't about being hard to get an answer it was about you being impatient.

zzzzzzz

IfGodCouldDie posted...

There ya go, it wasn't about being hard to get an answer it was about you being impatient.

IGCD dont be a smart aleck. Nobody has the patience for that. Not just her.

htaeD posted...

I disagree on one factor, Sbell. Corrik has tried to downplay her opinion as 'devoid of data'.
The thing is that, as even she said, this is what Corrik does regardless.

Its day 1. What data does she have? Blade, Han, Chris, myself, and all the best players downplay day 1 as even mattering until the ending train. What data does she have, Death?

The Isquen thing.

htaeD posted...

But at least there seems to be actual gameplay-related connections between the two now

A game in which I was eventually confirmed town, and he was scum, yes.

htaeD posted...

IGCD dont be a smart aleck. Nobody has the patience for that. Not just her.

Well I'm not a fan of people misrepresenting what I have done. So if you choose to do that I will choose to be sarcastic in my response to you.

Do....what?

Also I meant this game, Crescent.
For obvious reasons not related to thatwecannotname, I dont see you both as scum.

htaeD posted...

Do....what?

What?

htaeD posted...

Also it took me this long to see what Corriks logic was even..
But using the event in such a way after nobody got punished for it initially, seems exploitative.

But at least there seems to be actual gameplay-related connections between the two now

If the host allowed it, then it is fair game. In fact, she made it known she is ignoring a player in a game. That was also allowed. (Notice how she is asking people to tell her what I said instead of reading it itself?). Those are all host decisions which is fair enough. However, I am not going to not use what was allowed by the host into my reasoning either. It's fair game as far as I am concerned, and thus, the game has a free cop scan on me if Crescent flips scum, so thus, her lynch is by far the most attractive at this point of time with the lack of data we do have right now.

I'll start out by saying I think Ulti is town. I'm not sure if I agree with his theory that Crescent and Isquen are scum together, but it actually holds a little bit of water because Isquen's reaction to Crescent was a bit over the top and he chose to vote her over Panthera or anyone else that he had in his pile. Something is off about that interaction and I feel like Ulti giving that food for thought comes in good faith. I do think Crescent is still fairly towny but I'm paying mind to all the attention on her, as I feel the bulk of it comes in good faith and for now I won't defend her too much.

Then I'm going to say at least one mafia in SBell, Sultan, and MZero. Probably exactly one. SBell pushes on three people but ultimately decides to plant his vote on Sultan. MZero calls his reads calculated and votes him for that. The way I see it is that either A. SBell is scum that MZero has correctly called out. B. Sultan is scum that SBell has correctly called out. Or C. MZero is capitalizing on two townies that are at each other's throats. I did say SBell had a towny post, but at this point I think it's just because he made me laugh. Sultan had a weird start and I'm still not in love with everything he's posting, but I think MZero might be right. RN I'd say the plausibility of the scenarios above from most to least are A>B>C.

Still not entirely amused by Panth, but at this point I feel that vote is in vain as others seem to mostly be dismissing my thoughts in that area and/or have a townlean on that spot.

Um yeah let's try this.

##Vote: SBell

i think it's impossible because the blocking situation would've been a modkill scenario imo but this would be truly, truly next level theater to have Crescent/Corrik scum pair

UnderUrMattress posted...

I'll start out by saying I think Ulti is town. I'm not sure if I agree with his theory that Crescent and Isquen are scum together, but it actually holds a little bit of water because Isquen's reaction to Crescent was a bit over the top and he chose to vote her over Panthera or anyone else that he had in his pile. Something is off about that interaction and I feel like Ulti giving that food for thought comes in good faith. I do think Crescent is still fairly towny but I'm paying mind to all the attention on her, as I feel the bulk of it comes in good faith and for now I won't defend her too much.

Then I'm going to say at least one mafia in SBell, Sultan, and MZero. Probably exactly one. SBell pushes on three people but ultimately decides to plant his vote on Sultan. MZero calls his reads calculated and votes him for that. The way I see it is that either A. SBell is scum that MZero has correctly called out. B. Sultan is scum that SBell has correctly called out. Or C. MZero is capitalizing on two townies that are at each other's throats. I did say SBell had a towny post, but at this point I think it's just because he made me laugh. Sultan had a weird start and I'm still not in love with everything he's posting, but I think MZero might be right. RN I'd say the plausibility of the scenarios above from most to least are A>B>C.

Still not entirely amused by Panth, but at this point I feel that vote is in vain as others seem to mostly be dismissing my thoughts in that area and/or have a townlean on that spot.

Um yeah let's try this.

##Vote: SBell

You keep making excuses and lack of conviction in your votes. Scum alarm blares again.

changmas posted...

i think it's impossible because the blocking situation would've been a modkill scenario imo but this would be truly, truly next level theater to have Crescent/Corrik scum pair

Game would be basically bastard at that point. It would be like scum intentionally posting after deadline trying to save town to confirm as town.

Corrik7 posted...

If the host allowed it, then it is fair game. In fact, she made it known she is ignoring a player in a game. That was also allowed. (Notice how she is asking people to tell her what I said instead of reading it itself?). Those are all host decisions which is fair enough. However, I am not going to not use what was allowed by the host into my reasoning either. It's fair game as far as I am concerned, and thus, the game has a free cop scan on me if Crescent flips scum, so thus, her lynch is by far the most attractive at this point of time with the lack of data we do have right now.

Yeah I dont like how it happened, but at least I get your logic here.
Of course the problem is that Crescent can still be town.

htaeD posted...

Yeah I dont like how it happened, but at least I get your logic here.
Of course the problem is that Crescent can still be town.

It's a lot of upside though. In a day that generally has little.