Poll of the Day > Why is it so hard to find a Good Burger King?

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Most BKs iv been to are dirty and the employees dont care. When the food is prepared well its better than McDonalds.

Every BK I've been to in the Omaha area the outside looks like it's been trashed. The signs are broken, the pavement is full of potholes, the plants are dead or dying, and there's garbage everywhere.

teddy241 posted...

its better than McDonalds.

Not really a high bar...

Dikitain posted...

Not really a high bar...

There was a time when BK and Donalds were like coke vs pepsi or walmart vs target.

Now a days the fast food industry is over saturated with options and i think this has lead to the decline of both dons and bk. Donalds seems to be hanging on better but kids these days want new and exciting.

Reminds me of when America shopped at Sears or K mart and then all that went belly up

So lets take a journey back in time....waaaay back, before most on this board were even born.

So Mc'Ds has pretty much always been the same quality/food, they have not changed things up much or at least you can not tell if they have. Their fries changed a bit (think they were forced to stop adding sugar to them) but still taste mainly the same.

BK though is different, drastically different and if you go back far enough, their food used to actually be really freaking good.

Back in the mid 80's BK used to flame broil each burger and they seemed to use better meat as well. I swear to freaking god that the double whopper back then was god tier, especially after 4+ hours working construction. Those burgers were so good (I was like 13-14 at the time) that I still remember the taste.

Now part of it was hunger. I was laying cement and doing the job of a full man at 13 or so (and getting paid $15 an hour which was insane back then, even for adults). The money was great, but what I looked forward to was lunch and those insanely delicious burgers.

But then things changed, and not recently either, in the late 90's BK changed things up (1999 to be exact) switching to new broilers that were not nearly as good, nor produced as tasty burgers. I believe they also changed their meat products at the same time though no proof of that exists that is easily found.

These burgers were not as flame broiled as the previous ones, lacked as much flavor and lasted a far shorter time before becoming increadibly bland. You needed ketchup and mustard on them just for them to taste halfway decent.

But....those were STILL better than the burgers we now have. In 2011 BK got in trouble with the food board because of contaminated food etc, and had to change things up again. At that point I believe they started regularly microwaving burger patties before using them, and honestly after 2011 you could no longer tell that the burgers had been flame broiled. The easiest way to tell is to just buy flate out burger patties (used to be $2 a pop, no clue how much they are now). They are bland, no grill marks, no real taste. It tastes exactly like if you bought a frozen patty at the store and grilled it on the stove (in a frying pan), till it was mostly done, and then let it rest for 10-15 minutes and microwaved it (Try it, it's exact).

Those burgers are not tasty, all the flavor comes from the other ingrediants on the whopper (lettuce/tomato/onions/cheese/pickles/mustard/ketchup. If you just eat a patty it barely has any flavor at all and is just grey meat.

That, as far as I know, was the last significant change to BK's burgers and is what many people today consider normal (considering it's been over 11 years since the change.

Anyway, that is the sad history of BK burgers and the decline from delicious to barely edible. The only thing they have going for them is the other ingrediants, although honestly they are still better than MC'Ds burgers (which are just horrid).

Carl's Jnr/Hardies are still really good, although you need to ask them to make your burger patties fresh for the flame broiled taste to still be there. They also downgraded their broilers, but not nearly as much, and you can still the actually grilled taste on them (especially if your lucky). They vary greatly in how good their food is, so it is more than just the ingrediants and broiler that makes a difference (which can be quite large from store to store). I think some stores just broil a bunch and then microwave them like BK....while others are more proactive and broil the burgers to order instead. I always ask for fresh burgers but even then it's hit or miss with random Carl's Jnrs sadly.

There probably arent any good ones left The one on base is nice, but runs out of stuff constantly Including burgers

They seemed to be K-Mart-ing. As they start to slip they have to cut quality, staffing, building maint, longer times under warmers etc. As they cut each thing, they slip further, which means more cuts. Without a revitalization I think they may spiral into oblivion Kmart style.

McDonalds has gotten ridiculously expensive. It costs almost as much to get a Quarter Pounder, fries and a Coke at McDonalds as it is for a Culver's Double Bacon Deluxe, fries, and a drink. And the latter looks like actual food.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/8/AAQwHjAADBZU.jpg

their dipping sauces all suck ass and are snotty

their coupons used to be the best around, but now they're shitty like mcdonalds coupons

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Wendy's

I have never seen one of those in good shape in my town.

Our Culver's is very well kept and our McDonald's are surprisingly decent. And my closest whataburger deep cleans the outside every Tuesday night.

There are so many good burger places in CA, even in suburbs/small towns etc.

MooYaa burgers are as good as any burger you can make at home. Only went to the one in morgan hill, but they are all over CA (and there are many in other states as well) https://www.mooyah.com/locations

Inn and Out is fast food (unlike Mooyaa) with a drive in and it's all over the place in CA. I would, in general, rate their burgers over Carl's Jnr, and while they used to be expensive in comparison, that is no longer the case. Both cost about the same now.

Fuddruckers and Johhny Rockets are both all over the place in CA (there is a peggy sues I think it's called in a few places which is like Johnny rockets as well). They offer great burgers, milkshakes etc, but sadly I have not seen them outside CA.

Finally Shake Shack while biggest in NY and the east coast, has a decent number of shops in both the Bay Area and LA and is also extremely good.

Outside of the above, there are tons of good diners and individual burger places that are not chains, all over the place. In generally if you were to rate burgers in CA I would say most places are at least a 6/10 with many being 9-10/10.....and many chains being extremely high as well.

Meanwhile the best burger you can get in Olympia is from Five Guys or Red Robin generally, unless you luck out and find a better diner somewhere. I have not found anything even approaching a MooYaa burger in olypia/shelton/Seattle/Portland/Tacoma etc. I've found decent burgers mind you, but nothing I would rate over a 7, especially from any of the chains here.

never had good BK

Read the topic title and all I could think was welcome to Good Burger, home of the Good Burger, can I take your oorrder?

ultra magnus13 posted...

They seemed to be K-Mart-ing. As they start to slip they have to cut quality, staffing, building maint, longer times under warmers etc. As they cut each thing, they slip further, which means more cuts. Without a revitalization I think they may spiral into oblivion Kmart style.

They're not going to be like Kmart at all.

Sulugnaz posted...

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pick 2.

Good king.

captpackrat posted...

McDonalds has gotten ridiculously expensive. It costs almost as much to get a Quarter Pounder, fries and a Coke at McDonalds as it is for a Culver's Double Bacon Deluxe, fries, and a drink. And the latter looks like actual food.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/8/AAQwHjAADBZU.jpg

Yeah, McDonald's main allure used to be that it was cheap as heck. You could get a decent meal for $5 or less.

Now it's comparable in price to most other fast food restaurants, but lower quality than many of them. Hell, McDonald's prices are even approaching food that I would actually consider "good" while their quality has been consistently mediocre forever.

our local bk is either god tier or trash tier, nothing in between

From my personal experience, Wendy's make the best burgers. Too bad they're so rare where I live. The vast majority of cities in my province don't have one, mine included. The closest one to my location is more than 10 kilometers away. In fact, there are exactly 13 of them for a population of over 8 million people. There is hope, however, as the new owners in the province are contractually obligated to build 13 more before the end of 2025. Hopefully they build one in my city, which just so happens to be one of the biggest five cities in the province.

There are also only 15 Burger Kings in my province, but two in my city. But I never cared about them. Around the same time as Wendy's announcement, they said they were planning on doubling the number in the near future. There are too many McDonald's to count. Just to give you an idea, my city has 16 of them and it's not an anomaly. Although they're not burger joints, we also have a shit ton of Subways and Tim Hortons, with 23 and 16 of them respectively just in my city. I only liked McDonald's when I was a kid, but I do like Subways and Tim Hortons, especially the former. Harvey's has a respectable 46 restaurants in my province, three of which are in my city. They're okay, but I rarely buy from them. We have even more A&Ws, with 8 in my city. They're also okay.

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I was going to comment this exact same thing wtf

Only thing good at bk are the pies

BADoglick posted...

Only thing good at bk are the pies

Burger King has pies?

I agree and I stopped eating BK long ago.

Booger King

captpackrat posted...

McDonalds has gotten ridiculously expensive. It costs almost as much to get a Quarter Pounder, fries and a Coke at McDonalds as it is for a Culver's Double Bacon Deluxe, fries, and a drink. And the latter looks like actual food.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/8/AAQwHjAADBZU.jpg

Most fast food is garbage

Culver's is God tier food. Great , milkshakes and cheese bites.

Dmess85 posted...

Booger King

Rat burgers Rat burgers YUM!!

from an original troll topic.

wolfy42 posted...

BK though is different, drastically different and if you go back far enough, their food used to actually be really freaking good

I had them a lot in the 90s and it's like night and day. You could actually taste the char back then.

party_animal07 posted...

I had them a lot in the 90s and it's like night and day. You could actually taste the char back then.

Yeah, god I miss them. CJ's is still semi decent but not as good as BK was back then (or CJ's back then). It's like everything good has...degraded over time or something *sigh*

I don't remember them from the 90s but I really liked it during the early 2000s when I was always traveling at Sky Harbor. I don't think that Burger King exists anymore.