Poll of the Day > Your S/O is dying from one of two diseases

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Your S/O is dying from one of two diseases. The doctors are unsure which disease it is but treating for the wrong one will kill her. One of the diseases means she had to have cheated. They begin treating for the cheating disease because it matches the symptoms better but they dont have confirmation of infidelity.

If they die it means they were faithful, if they live it means they werent.

Which are you hoping for when they start treatment?

How do you respond to either option? Do tou hope one way in secret?

Well, I wouldnt wish death on another person because they cheated. But Id leave them for sure if they cheated. So, either way, Im out of an SO. Either they live and we break up. Or they die, and Im sad

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Seems like an episode of House.

DrPrimemaster posted...

One of the diseases means she had to have cheated.

If there's no other way she would have contracted it and that's the treatment she agreed to, then I already have my answer regarding that.

So we have two variables. Cheated or didn't cheat, and disease A or disease B.
This gives us four scenarios.

Cheated and has disease A - treated for the correct disease and lives.
Cheated and has disease B - treated for the wrong disease and dies, but still cheated and it was possible to have the other disease.
Didn't cheat and has disease A - according to the premise this scenario is not possible.
Didn't cheat and has disease B - according the premise this scenario makes no sense given that she knows she's getting the wrong treatment and it will kill her.

Kill cancer, marry aids, fuck my wife

Wasn't this an episode of house?

Anyway. I want her to live. I'm actually open to a polygamous relationship. It's just the lying we would need to work out. And that isn't worth her life.

If she had to have cheated to get the disease that she is being treated for, then I already know she cheated. The other disease she could still have gotten, so she could still die, but either way she cheated for sure.

I wouldn't want her to die, but I sure as fuck would get tested and would break up with her.

If she died, I'd still be sad. If I got the same thing from her, I would be mad as well.

slacker03150 posted...

Wasn't this an episode of house?

Anyway. I want her to live. I'm actually open to a polygamous relationship. It's just the lying we would need to work out. And that isn't worth her life.

It was

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

If there's no other way she would have contracted it and that's the treatment she agreed to, then I already have my answer regarding that.

So we have two variables. Cheated or didn't cheat, and disease A or disease B.
This gives us four scenarios.

Cheated and has disease A - treated for the correct disease and lives.
Cheated and has disease B - treated for the wrong disease and dies, but still cheated and it was possible to have the other disease.
Didn't cheat and has disease A - according to the premise this scenario is not possible.
Didn't cheat and has disease B - according the premise this scenario makes no sense given that she knows she's getting the wrong treatment and it will kill her.

Addendum: She didnt agree to it, she was unable to respond.

DrPrimemaster posted...

She didnt agree to it, she was unable to respond.

That's not stated in the original post.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

That's not stated in the original post.

I dont deny that, adding clarification

Hope it works, then probably dump her ass. Either way, I'm out an SO, but I'm not going to wish death on her for cheating, and getting over somebody who turned out to not be for me would generally be much easier than getting over a good relationship that was ended by tragedy.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

That's not stated in the original post.

That's what the term "Addendum" typically means.

adjl posted...

That's what the term "Addendum" typically means.

(edited 10 minutes ago)
It didn't say "Addendum" when I quoted it.

Oh look at that. My mistake.

Treat her for the non cheating disease instead. Win win.

Oh if he cheated he would be fucking dead anyways.

I thought you were going to ask some hard question about euthanasia or long term memory care or something

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Didn't cheat and has disease B - according the premise this scenario makes no sense given that she knows she's getting the wrong treatment and it will kill her.

What are you talking about? Having disease B doesnt mean she didnt cheat Disease A means she cheated. But she could have cheated and got Disease B still. Its just that Disease A means she definitely cheated. So, this does make sense

Also, AFAIK, they dont choose which one they receive

Blightzkrieg posted...

Kill cancer, marry aids, fuck my wife

I also choose this guys wife

Bang the doctor's mum

LinkPizza posted...

What are you talking about? Having disease B doesnt mean she didnt cheat

I was going through the combinations of the variables. An earlier combination covered the possibility that she did cheat but had the other disease. For this combination I was talking about how consenting to treatment A wouldn't make sense since the s/o would know that she didn't cheat and can't have disease A.

LinkPizza posted...

Also, AFAIK, they dont choose which one they receive

I don't know where you live but where I live doctor's are suppose to get informed consent before they start a treatment. I was assuming the s/o them self was agreeing to the treatment. Apparently the premise has been amended. Now I guess the s/o is in a coma and a relative hers agreed to treatment on her behalf.

I was creating a poll around https://house.fandom.com/wiki/Fidelity

I missed details.

I really just wanted to see if others felt like the husband did for a bit.

Basically would you rather have a faithful but dead partner or an unfaithful alive partner.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I was going through the combinations of the variables. An earlier combination covered the possibility that she did cheat but had the other disease. For this combination I was talking about how consenting to treatment A wouldn't make sense since the s/o would know that she didn't cheat and can't have disease A.

I don't know where you live but where I live doctor's are suppose to get informed consent before they start a treatment. I was assuming the s/o them self was agreeing to the treatment. Apparently the premise has been amended. Now I guess the s/o is in a coma and a relative of hers agreed to treatment on her behalf.

Sure. They get consent when they can. But its hard to get consent from someone unresponsive. Maybe its how I read it. It seemed pretty clear to me that the person getting the treatment wasnt choosing But I guess others could read it differently

DrPrimemaster posted...

Basically would you rather have a faithful but dead partner or an unfaithful alive partner.

I just wouldnt have a partner anymore

DrPrimemaster posted...

They begin treating for the cheating disease because it matches the symptoms better but they don't have confirmation of infidelity.

DrPrimemaster posted...

Addendum: She didnt agree to it, she was unable to respond.

The problem there is whether or not the doctors would be legally allowed to start treating them with an extremely risky treatment that has the potential to kill them if they got the symptoms wrong. While I'm not 100% sure of the legality, I'm tempted to say that without patient consent, power of attorney would come into play. Which means they'd have to ask the S/O or the patient's parents for consent.

A more interesting version of the question might be whether or not you as the S/O would give consent to allow them to be treated for the "cheating disease" or the other one, based on being advised by the doctors that the cheating disease is somewhat more likely, but not guaranteed.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The problem there is whether or not the doctors would be legally allowed to start treating them with an extremely risky treatment that has the potential to kill them if they got the symptoms wrong. While I'm not 100% sure of the legality, I'm tempted to say that without patient consent, power of attorney would come into play. Which means they'd have to ask the S/O or the patient's parents for consent.

A more interesting version of the question might be whether or not you as the S/O would give consent to allow them to be treated for the "cheating disease" or the other one, based on being advised by the doctors that the cheating disease is somewhat more likely, but not guaranteed.

It comes up in the show, she isnt getting better on non cheat disease so he has to decide how much trust he has in her.

LinkPizza posted...

It seemed pretty clear to me that the person getting the treatment wasnt choosing But I guess others could read it differently

The alternative required a few unstated details.
1) The s/o is unable to participate in the diagnosis.
2) We're not married since informed consent would fall on me to approve the treatment, and I would have assumed she didn't cheat.
3) A relative of the s/o is providing informed consent to approve the treatment.
4) That relative thinks the s/o probably cheated on me.
I just bypassed all of that and thought the s/o had approved the treatment on their own.

DrPrimemaster posted...

It comes up in the show, she isnt getting better on non cheat disease so he has to decide how much trust he has in her.

House's understanding of how medical ethics and consent laws work is... shaky at times. There's a lot of embellishment for dramatic effect.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

The alternative required a few unstated details.
1) The s/o is unable to participate in the diagnosis.
2) We're not married since informed consent would fall on me to approve the treatment, and I would have assumed she didn't cheat.
3) A relative of the s/o is providing informed consent to approve the treatment.
4) That relative thinks the s/o probably cheated on me.
I just bypassed all of that and thought the s/o had approved the treatment on their own.

Alternatively, the intent of the hypothetical scenario was blatantly obvious, even without spelling out every possible detail that would be needed to restrict the potential options to those given, and looking for loopholes to get out of answering the real question is just being obnoxious and refusing to play along.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

A more interesting version of the question might be whether or not you as the S/O would give consent to allow them to be treated for the "cheating disease" or the other one, based on being advised by the doctors that the cheating disease is somewhat more likely, but not guaranteed.

That's a considerably easier question to answer, though, to the point that it constitutes enough of a conflict of interest that doctors would likely withhold the cheating variable to avoid influencing your decision. To use Disease C as the cheating one and Disease F and the faithful one:

Treatment C, Disease C: The cheater lives
Treatment C, Disease F: The faithful partner dies
Treatment F, Disease C: The cheater dies
Treatment F, Disease F: The faithful partner lives

Only one of those outcomes can actually be considered good. The rest all involve some combination of your SO cheating and/or dying. To that end, there's no reason anyone ever wouldn't choose Treatment F, especially given that the bad outcome is the death of somebody they might actually have considered killing themselves, presented in a manner where they are guaranteed to get away with it and can feel morally justified in the knowledge that their SO brought that fate upon themselves. It would be ferociously unethical to offer that choice to a patient's SO.

I'd never forgive someone who cheated on me but I wouldn't want them to die from something that can't be cured. I've seen that with a family member before and wouldn't wish that on anyone.

adjl posted...

the intent of the hypothetical scenario was blatantly obvious, even without spelling out every possible detail

Obviousness is subjective. Plus I think it's been well established that how you interpret things, and how I interpret things, are vastly different. In any case my response was based on a lack of information for which DrPrimemaster added clarification.

Success would be my hope no contest. Much easier to get over cheating than death. Assuming i got over it at all and didnt just immediately try to join her after she died.