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VipaGTS
02/03/22 2:37:08 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/sjl275/miami_police_officer_charged_after_video_emerges/

literally made it a point to put the tazer right on her stomach. The fucker knew exactly what he was doing. Apparently he only got charged with disorderly conduct and battery because he was off duty at the time of this incident.

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Tyranthraxus
02/03/22 2:38:38 PM
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This is literally the kind of shit Nazis were doing in the 30s.

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What_
02/03/22 2:41:19 PM
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Fucking pig should be executed for doing that
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OudeGeuze
02/03/22 2:42:27 PM
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FortuneCookie
02/03/22 2:42:54 PM
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Disgusting.
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Umbreon
02/03/22 2:45:06 PM
#6:


Should be charged with murder, but of course cops get kid gloves for something that would get decent people arrested/killed.

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eston
02/03/22 2:46:51 PM
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This is one of those rare instances when I'd be ok with someone taking justice into their own hands

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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/03/22 2:47:22 PM
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Isn't this from 2020

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VipaGTS
02/03/22 2:50:25 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Should be charged with murder, but of course cops get kid gloves for something that would get decent people arrested/killed.
Isnt it funny how the anti abortion crowd will probably defend this because it involves a cop?

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Cleo_II
02/03/22 2:50:59 PM
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I cried watching that. Horrific.
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ThePieReborn
02/03/22 2:54:16 PM
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You'd have some difficulty proving causation beyond the initial harm of being tasered. Certainly possible, especially if you have a really clear timeline to work with and a good expert witness, but still poses some difficulty.

Absolutely horrid and unnecessary regardless.

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Trumble
02/03/22 2:56:33 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Should be charged with murder


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Tyranthraxus
02/03/22 2:56:35 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
Isnt it funny how the anti abortion crowd will probably defend this because it involves a cop?

I personally don't think it should be murder but I'm sure there's enough adjacent torture crimes that it could be instead.

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Naysaspace
02/03/22 2:57:28 PM
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So is there any doubt he did it because she's black? any at all? Spoiler: There is zero doubt because it's the truth

ThePieReborn posted...
You'd have some difficulty proving causation beyond the initial harm of being tasered. Certainly possible, especially if you have a really clear timeline to work with and a good expert witness, but still poses some difficulty.

Absolutely horrid and unnecessary regardless.

where'd you complete your JD?

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hitokoriX
02/03/22 3:06:18 PM
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This is something that gets a normal person a much more serious charge

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Mr_Karate_II
02/03/22 3:06:19 PM
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What the fuck, this is another reason why I hate cops. The fucking pig murdered the baby, he should be charged with murder because that's exactly what this is.

The pig knew the woman was pregnant yet chose to do it anyway.

Fuck anyone who defends the pigs actions or cops anymore.

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Arcanine2009
02/03/22 3:07:30 PM
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Charged with murder is what he should get


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Crescente
02/03/22 3:08:22 PM
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Another day, another cop killing spree. What the fuck.
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Shablagoo
02/03/22 4:24:54 PM
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A Tampa man was charged with murder for tricking his girlfriend into taking abortion pills telling her they were tylenol and she inevitably miscarried. He was charged under the federal Unborn Victims of Violence Act.

https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/10/justice/girlfriend-abortion-case/index.html

The cop has only been charged with four counts of battery and two counts of official misconduct by the Miami-Dade state attorney.



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Ilishe
02/03/22 4:45:04 PM
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The current Florida statute reads:
782.09 Killing of unborn child by injury to mother.
(1) The unlawful killing of an unborn child, by any injury to the mother of such child which would be murder if it resulted in the death of such mother, shall be deemed murder in the same degree as that which would have been committed against the mother.

Murder. Life in prison.

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ScazarMeltex
02/03/22 4:47:48 PM
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Ilishe posted...
The current Florida statute reads:
782.09 Killing of unborn child by injury to mother.
(1) The unlawful killing of an unborn child, by any injury to the mother of such child which would be murder if it resulted in the death of such mother, shall be deemed murder in the same degree as that which would have been committed against the mother.

Murder. Life in prison.
The law doesn't apply to cops.
It should also be noted that without this video this cop faces no consequences.

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NeoShadowhen
02/03/22 4:49:59 PM
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They probably laid down the easy charges to get the ball rolling, and well see some more added on soon.

This is really blatant.
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Mearcstapa
02/03/22 4:54:28 PM
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If there ever were a case for vigilante justice...

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Southernfatman
02/03/22 4:58:57 PM
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And people wonder why many of us hate cops.

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Bishop9800
02/03/22 5:06:52 PM
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OudeGeuze posted...
@darkprince45
He's not going to answer

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ThyCorndog
02/03/22 5:07:57 PM
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oink oink oink

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Mistere Man
02/03/22 5:08:48 PM
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Ilishe posted...
The current Florida statute reads:
782.09 Killing of unborn child by injury to mother.
(1) The unlawful killing of an unborn child, by any injury to the mother of such child which would be murder if it resulted in the death of such mother, shall be deemed murder in the same degree as that which would have been committed against the mother.

Murder. Life in prison.
The wording in that is so confusing.

by any injury to the mother of such child which would be murder if it resulted in the death of such mother

almost sounds like the injury on the mother has to be murder level to classify, but like I said the wording is confusing.

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Zikten
02/03/22 5:12:48 PM
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The public needs to demand he gets punished. He will get away with it if we just drop it and move on. We have to keep the pressure on
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Esrac
02/03/22 5:39:41 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
You'd have some difficulty proving causation beyond the initial harm of being tasered. Certainly possible, especially if you have a really clear timeline to work with and a good expert witness, but still poses some difficulty.

Absolutely horrid and unnecessary regardless.

Maybe. It would probably depend on how long after the incident she miscarried. If it was, say, a month later, then they'd probably not be able to prove he caused it. Compared to, say, if she miscarried the next morning.

After looking around a bit, I can't find any sources that state when she lost the baby. Best I can find is Forbes, which reports that "she wouldn't have the child, but didn't lose it as result of the tasing."

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cjsdowg
02/03/22 5:42:13 PM
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Well that is murder.

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ModLogic
02/03/22 5:42:45 PM
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what the fuck...

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VipaGTS
02/03/22 9:46:49 PM
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Oink...i mean Bump

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Mr_Karate_II
02/04/22 10:59:56 AM
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I see anyone defending the pig who did this will be blocked, there is no defending this.

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ThePieReborn
02/04/22 11:03:39 AM
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Esrac posted...
Maybe. It would probably depend on how long after the incident she miscarried. If it was, say, a month later, then they'd probably not be able to prove he caused it. Compared to, say, if she miscarried the next morning.

After looking around a bit, I can't find any sources that state when she lost the baby. Best I can find is Forbes, which reports that "she wouldn't have the child, but didn't lose it as result of the tasing."
Yeah that's what I found puzzling and why I flagged it as an issue. The longer the temporal gap, the more difficult causation is to prove (or, rather, it becomes easier to muddy the waters).

Still absolutely flagrant abuse regardless.

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VipaGTS
02/04/22 12:09:51 PM
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Yea ultimately causation would be hard to prove, but intent is more important IMO. He actively tazed the stomach, purposely. How often do you ever see a cop taze someone there? He knew that he was doing.

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Solar_Crimson
02/04/22 12:11:56 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
They probably laid down the easy charges to get the ball rolling, and well see some more added on soon.
*doubt*

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
02/04/22 12:20:16 PM
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This can also be a hate crime since itd very likely he killed the child on purpose due to her being black.

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What_
02/04/22 12:42:34 PM
#38:


Southernfatman posted...
And people wonder why many of us hate cops.
Everyone should hate cops and no one should ever trust one
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Esrac
02/04/22 1:00:02 PM
#39:


ThePieReborn posted...
Yeah that's what I found puzzling and why I flagged it as an issue. The longer the temporal gap, the more difficult causation is to prove (or, rather, it becomes easier to muddy the waters).

Still absolutely flagrant abuse regardless.

Sure. It looks like a very blatant case of excessive force. Rightly fired and, probably, rightly charged.

Charging him with murder would be a harder sell though, because she was only a few weeks pregnant and not showing yet. I couldn't hear her say anything about being pregnant, but i could have missed it. He'd have no way to know she was pregnant, so intent would be hard to prove.

Proving causation would probably depend on how long after she miscarried.
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JScriv
02/04/22 1:02:19 PM
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Disgusting. Should get murder charges.

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pick4six
02/05/22 1:52:32 AM
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Should be charged with the murder of an unborn child, but instead he will get paid administrative leave because hes part of the biggest gang in America, the police force

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Kloe_Rinz
02/05/22 1:55:09 AM
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so is the cop going to be charged with murder?
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What_
02/05/22 2:03:59 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
so is the cop going to be charged with murder?
Im sure all the pigs in New York will have a parade for him
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Sphyx
02/05/22 4:18:44 AM
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You start to wonder why anybody bothers to film these things when the police still face practically no punishment for what they do, even when caught on camera.

If capturing these incidents was going to trigger an appropriate change, it should have started happening by now. But the people/organisations involved clearly don't care about being outed.


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Looked gf
02/05/22 4:33:18 AM
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Why is everyone jumping to conclusions? The cop did nothing wrong. How do we know the baby wasn't armed?

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Bishop9800
02/05/22 5:05:45 AM
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Looked gf posted...
Why is everyone jumping to conclusions? The cop did nothing wrong. How do we know the baby wasn't armed?


Lol!!!

I could see Addy saying some stupid shit like that...

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Alexanaxela
02/06/22 5:54:04 PM
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I just threw up

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