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Smallville
01/14/22 10:29:05 AM
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question, so do you think because of this that the pig heart should have gone to someone else. The family of the man he stabbed seems to think so

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Ushiromiya
01/14/22 10:31:04 AM
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was he still in prison?

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Antifar
01/14/22 10:31:18 AM
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Medicine is not (or at least should not be) a statement on the recipient's morality.

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Antifar
01/14/22 10:32:09 AM
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Ushiromiya posted...
was he still in prison?
No, because the crime was 32 years ago.

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Background_Guy
01/14/22 10:33:05 AM
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Antifar posted...
No, because the crime was 32 years ago.
Nobody cares about boomer crimes
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CommonStar
01/14/22 10:33:58 AM
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No
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viewmaster_pi
01/14/22 10:34:09 AM
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"it was either this or die, i want to live," said the convicted killer

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mustachedmystic
01/14/22 10:35:47 AM
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No one wants to question the family of a victim(I understand why), but would these people feel the same if one of their own killed someone?

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Smallville
01/14/22 10:36:19 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

why won't they answer your question on ask the mods?

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Sexypwnstar
01/14/22 10:37:38 AM
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Smallville posted...
question, so do you think because of this that the pig heart should have gone to someone else. The family of the man he stabbed seems to think so

Did they even know if it would work or not? Why would you want the pig heart to go to someone who is a "good candidate" in your eyes over one (human) that has less potential for an immunologic reaction?

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Background_Guy
01/14/22 10:37:51 AM
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If we aren't allowed to give former convicted felons lifesaving medical treatments we might as well just use the death penalty for every crime.
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Smallville
01/14/22 10:39:57 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

as a matter of fact, i also asked a question on that board and they also did not respond. But a topic asking about mod farts had like 15 responses or something

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Background_Guy
01/14/22 10:41:15 AM
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I doubt most of the ps4 board was vaccinated to begin with
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Raikuro
01/14/22 10:44:45 AM
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What if he was possessed by a bloodthirsty pig
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uwnim
01/14/22 10:44:51 AM
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Antifar posted...
No, because the crime was 32 years ago.
Oh, then I don't really care.

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Background_Guy
01/14/22 10:46:33 AM
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Do we know the history of the pig? Why was it executed? What did it do?
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MrMallard
01/14/22 10:47:51 AM
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The collagen made him crazy

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Cocytus
01/14/22 10:49:44 AM
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Is this a hypothetical or for real? And for real, source, please?
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mustachedmystic
01/14/22 10:51:14 AM
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Background_Guy posted...
Do we know the history of the pig? Why was it executed? What did it do?
I heard it misgendered Elliot Page.

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Tyranthraxus
01/14/22 10:53:21 AM
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TBH I'm okay with doing highly experimental medical procedures on ex cons (with consent)

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viewmaster_pi
01/14/22 10:54:18 AM
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in all seriousness, the transplant wasn't a guaranteed success, and problems may still come up. if it went to someone else and their body rejected the heart and they died, then people would say "they should have tested this experimental surgery on some criminal instead!" so there's really no "correct" way for this to have gone down


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CopyMan1
01/14/22 10:57:31 AM
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Cocytus posted...
Is this a hypothetical or for real? And for real, source, please?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/01/13/pig-heart-transplant-stabbing-david-bennett/
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Ryven
01/14/22 11:01:15 AM
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He did his time, and if he's a better person because of it, then all the power to him.

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viewmaster_pi
01/14/22 11:02:52 AM
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Ryven posted...
He did his time, and if he's a better person because of it, then all the power to him.
people who don't need to be tought not to stab people are even better tho

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mustachedmystic
01/14/22 11:05:56 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
people who don't need to be tought not to stab people are even better tho
And people that didn't do whatever wrong thing you did are better than you. But then again, you might have not have done whatever wrong thing they did. So, who knows?

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viewmaster_pi
01/14/22 11:16:43 AM
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mustachedmystic posted...
And people that didn't do whatever wrong thing you did are better than you. But then again, you might have not have done whatever wrong thing they did. So, who knows?
....who knows what? why do you guys go so far to defend killers around here?

and yeah, the dude he stabbed was stuck in a wheelchair for 20 years, died of a stroke at 40, surely no coincidence, so i'm gonna go ahead and call that delayed result murder. the murderer apparently deserves his second chance, "more power to him," etc, but his victim didn't.

okay

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viewmaster_pi
01/14/22 11:19:24 AM
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before anyone says a damn thing, i'd like to gently remind you that you're full of shit, and your tune would change real quick if it was your loved one who was killed. it's easy to prop yourself up and appear virtuous when you're on the outside, looking in

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mustachedmystic
01/14/22 11:19:37 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
why do you guys go so far to defend killers around here?
LOL, I'm not defending anyone. And even if I was, go as far as to post on a anonymous message board? Yeah, I'm really sticking my neck out here. All I'm saying is get off your high horse, you're better than a convict, congrats. *clap*.

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uwnim
01/14/22 11:19:49 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
....who knows what? why do you guys go so far to defend killers around here?

and yeah, the dude he stabbed was stuck in a wheelchair for 20 years, died of a stroke at 40, surely no coincidence, so i'm gonna go ahead and call that delayed result murder. the murderer apparently deserves his second chance, "more power to him," etc, but his victim didn't.

okay
Sorry I have compassion and care about people. Ill try to be more heartless and say fuck you go die to people who did something wrong decades ago.

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viewmaster_pi
01/14/22 11:22:50 AM
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uwnim posted...
Sorry I have compassion and care about people. Ill try to be more heartless and say fuck you go die to people who did something wrong decades ago.
you mean when they said "fuck you go die" to their victims except then they made it happen? compassion for the compassionless, hate the sin, love the sinner. hypocritical bullshit by any name it takes

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Tyranthraxus
01/14/22 11:28:53 AM
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This is like watching a shonen anime play out for real.

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nfearurspecimn
01/14/22 11:31:35 AM
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WOah waoh woah slow down. We can make pig hearts to transplant... INTO HUMANS and it works JUST FINE?!

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IShall_Run_Amok
01/14/22 11:33:18 AM
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This is like The Hands of Orlac but in reverse.

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viewmaster_pi
01/14/22 11:34:42 AM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
WOah waoh woah slow down. We can make pig hearts to transplant... INTO HUMANS and it works JUST FINE?!
we don't know yet, but it looks promising so far. the guy they gave it to is a scumbag, but for the sake of everyone else who needs organs, it's a big step in the right direction

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nfearurspecimn
01/14/22 11:35:25 AM
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well then giving it to him is NBD because it can be tested on someone considered "less worthy"

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ThyCorndog
01/14/22 11:36:46 AM
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are there seriously people that think if you did a crime at some point that it has to be a part of you forever? what's the point of "doing time" then?

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charey
01/14/22 11:39:39 AM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
WOah waoh woah slow down. We can make pig hearts to transplant... INTO HUMANS and it works JUST FINE?!
The pig is genetically engineered to make a heart that could be transplanted to humans. But its still too early to tell if it is going to work long term, after a few months his body might start to reject it anyways.

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viewmaster_pi
01/14/22 11:40:26 AM
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so this is the game we're playing, just reducing murder/attempted murder to "something bad in the past" or "a crime at some point"

i get that until you're in the position of the victim or their family, you think you're being honest with yourself, but could you at least not be disingenuous as fuck about it?

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mustachedmystic
01/14/22 11:40:39 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
your tune would change real quick if it was your loved one who was killed.
I have no doubt you are correct, but I hope I'd have the self awareness to realize that my feelings are colored by the fact that the victim is a loved one, and to remember why justice is supposed to be blind.

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Mezcla
01/14/22 11:40:46 AM
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PlG MAN!!!!

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CommonStar
01/14/22 11:40:58 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
so this is the game we're playing, just reducing murder/attempted murder to "something bad in the past" or "a crime at some point"

i get that until you're in the position of victim or their family, you think you're being honest with yourself, but could you at least not be disingenuous as fuck about it?
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Master Kazuya
01/14/22 11:41:47 AM
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Maybe the pig heart came from an angry pig

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viewmaster_pi
01/14/22 11:43:40 AM
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CommonStar posted...
He served his time. What more do you want? You want to kill him?
i don't want to do anything to anyone, but i also don't want to see killers getting the chance at life they stole from their victims. not that i think this dude's living the high life with his pig heart or anything

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Cocytus
01/14/22 11:48:08 AM
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My heart says no, but my mind believes this from the article...

"Medical ethicists argue that the criminal justice system already imposes jail time, financial restitution or other punishments on those convicted of violent offenses. Withholding medical services is not a part of that punishment."
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ThyCorndog
01/14/22 11:49:05 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
i don't want to do anything to anyone, but i also don't want to see killers getting the chance at life they stole from their victims. not that i think this dude's living the high life with his pig heart or anything
Would "eye for an eye" be a good justice system for you? Or what?

Almost every country in the world releases people at some point for murder. The US is one of the most strict and the justice system thought 30 something years was enough for him. Would you prefer he get life in prison? Idk if that disingenuous thing was about my post but I'm completely serious

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Ruvan22
01/14/22 11:50:38 AM
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Cocytus posted...
My heart says no, but my mind believes this from the article...

"Medical ethicists argue that the criminal justice system already imposes jail time, financial restitution or other punishments on those convicted of violent offenses. Withholding medical services is not a part of that punishment."

Is it a pig heart?
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Cocytus
01/14/22 11:54:00 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Is it a pig heart?
Heart of a lion!
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