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greyfox747
01/08/22 7:22:47 PM
#305:


Awesome, are you happy now

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Fazeo13
01/08/22 7:27:25 PM
#306:


Also make up is a hell of a thing. Irl doe you can see by the neck, light stubble, shoulders and frame. Asians are really good at it doe.

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Derwood
01/08/22 7:32:49 PM
#307:


Fazeo13 posted...
Also make up is a hell of a thing. Irl doe you can see by the neck, light stubble, shoulders and frame. Asians are really good at it doe.

You think MJ Rodriguez has a "manly" frame?
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Gwynevere
01/08/22 8:58:31 PM
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trappedunderice posted...
More pronounced brow ridge, adams apple, jaw size.
Pretty much all of this is negated by puberty blockers, and cis women can display all of these properties naturally anyway

As much as you tell yourself you can reliably tell, it's never gonna be true

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kriztofer
01/09/22 12:22:01 AM
#309:


This guy is apparently an expert
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UndefeatedGOAT
01/09/22 12:41:57 AM
#310:


Gwynevere posted...

Pretty much all of this is negated by puberty blockers, and cis women can display all of these properties naturally anyway

As much as you tell yourself you can reliably tell, it's never gonna be true


And you support that practice?
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Gwynevere
01/09/22 2:28:13 PM
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UndefeatedGOAT posted...
And you support that practice?
I'm in favor of using puberty blockers until a child is old enough to make the informed choice to transition fully, yes

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iPhone_7
01/09/22 2:44:18 PM
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What will she say when her husband/boyfriend talks about being a parent? Is she going to be evasive in her answers? Isnt it going to be in the back of her mind that shes not being honest & open with her partner?

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Crazyman93
01/09/22 2:47:35 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
No, of course not. And she didnt have to say anything pre-op either.
If I take home a woman and when she pulls her pants off and has a dick, I'm gonna be really pissed about it. I consider "do you have a penis" to be important information regarding I'm wasting my time trying to get laid.

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CyricZ
01/09/22 2:54:32 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
What will she say when her husband/boyfriend talks about being a parent? Is she going to be evasive in her answers? Isnt it going to be in the back of her mind that shes not being honest & open with her partner?
Good point. How can one simply just say "I don't want children" or "I can't have children"?

Crazyman93 posted...
If I take home a woman and when she pulls her pants off and has a dick, I'm gonna be really pissed about it.
*sigh* Well this is duly noted.

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Gwynevere
01/09/22 2:59:54 PM
#315:


What's even the point of getting mad over it though? Much less "really pissed"

Why is just letting them know that there was a misunderstanding and that you're not interested in continuing, then going your separate ways not enough

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Slayer_22
01/09/22 3:01:53 PM
#316:


Derwood posted...
Can you say who is trans and who is cis?

Just gonna say that all of 'em are ugly.

Trans or not, ugly is as ugly does.

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UghWhoCares
01/09/22 3:30:59 PM
#317:


Crazyman93 posted...
If I take home a woman and when she pulls her pants off and has a dick, I'm gonna be really pissed about it. I consider "do you have a penis" to be important information regarding I'm wasting my time trying to get laid.
Then tell your potential partners what your dealbreakers are like an adult

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Crazyman93
01/09/22 3:42:34 PM
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UghWhoCares posted...
Then tell your potential partners what your dealbreakers are like an adult
Sorry for growing up during a time when "do you have a penis?" wasn't something normal to ask someone that looks like a woman.

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CyricZ
01/09/22 3:51:48 PM
#319:


Crazyman93 posted...
Sorry for growing up during a time when "do you have a penis?" wasn't something normal to ask someone that looks like a woman.
There are layers to the issues with this post.
  1. Your implication that being transgender is a recent phenomenon.
  2. The general sense that you feel discovering a potential partner having a penis could be a threat to you.
  3. Your remarking on the audacity of asking a potential partner point blank if they have a penis and not realizing that by demanding the other person disclose you're not remotely reducing that audacity, just shifting the responsibility.
  4. The general vibe that you are, in fact, not sorry you live in such a world, but instead feeling other, possibly negative, emotions about living in such a current world compared to the world you grew up in, whatever that was in fact versus what you believed it was as you grew.
To further unpack #4, imagine saying out loud "sorry for growing up in a time where I was 'allowed' to say the n-word".

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RyukSan
01/09/22 4:10:50 PM
#320:


UghWhoCares posted...
Then tell your potential partners what your dealbreakers are like an adult
This is not a gotcha response.

You would be intentionally lying through omission about something you know full damn well most people are not into, then feigning ignorance.

You personally not thinking it's a big deal doesn't change that. You say "like an adult" but dance around the irony of saying that by purposely not being open about a well known dealbreaker.
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CyricZ
01/09/22 4:26:33 PM
#321:


Awful lot of "lots of people think it, making it justified" going around today.

I'll ask again if anyone's willing to contribute to a list of things that anyone seeking a partner should mention immediately about themselves in the chance that the other person has that as a dealbreaker.

Here, I'll even get the ball rolling with a few prospective items. Y'all tell me if any of them make sense.

Should someone seeking a partner disclose without needing to be asked:
  • that they have a problem with alcohol?
  • that they engage in recreational drugs?
  • that they are poor at managing money?
  • that they believe in certain stereotypes about certain races/cultures?
  • that they have a criminal record?
  • that they have a history of domestic violence?
  • that they have no friends?
  • that they are into lolicon anime?
Feel free to add.

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UghWhoCares
01/09/22 4:27:22 PM
#322:


Crazyman93 posted...
Sorry for growing up during a time when "do you have a penis?" wasn't something normal to ask someone that looks like a woman.
You can always keep growing up instead of settling on immaturity

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greyfox747
01/09/22 4:29:14 PM
#323:


CyricZ posted...
Should someone seeking a partner disclose without needing to be asked:
that they have a problem with alcohol?
that they engage in recreational drugs?
that they are poor at managing money?
that they believe in certain stereotypes about certain races/cultures?
that they have a criminal record?
that they have a history of domestic violence?
that they have no friends?
that they are into lolicon anime?
Feel free to add.
That they are secretly cyric

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CyricZ
01/09/22 4:29:59 PM
#324:


greyfox747 posted...
That they are secretly cyric
That they are secretly Cyric

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iPhone_7
01/09/22 8:28:52 PM
#325:


CyricZ posted...
Good point. How can one simply just say "I don't want children" or "I can't have children"?

Honey why cant you have children?

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CyricZ
01/09/22 8:49:04 PM
#326:


iPhone_7 posted...
Honey why cant you have children?
"Because I'm transgender, honey, but given how we're at the "honey" stage of our relationship, I've probably already told you this."

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RyukSan
01/09/22 9:32:28 PM
#327:


CyricZ posted...
"Because I'm transgender, honey, but given how we're at the "honey" stage of our relationship, I've probably already told you this."
See that word there.

Probably? Hell, just the fact that you wasted my time hiding something you knew was a dealbreaker for most people. Or pretending not to know it's a dealbreaker for most people. Or the gymnastics comparisons I'm sure you have for justifying omitting dealbreakers most people have.
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CyricZ
01/09/22 9:38:00 PM
#328:


RyukSan posted...
Probably? Hell, just the fact that you wasted my time hiding something you knew was a dealbreaker.
"Something you knew was a dealbreaker"? It's so certain now? 100%?

You've spent time in this topic talking about "most people". "Well known". Suddenly things are apparently all too certain now.

You're the person living in "probably" right now.

EDIT: Yeah, edits can't hide what you meant. Sorry.

And "wasting your time". Ha.

If you truly wanted no time wasted, you'd ask her right away if she was trans. Get it over with. Don't hang that hang up on her.

Seriously what's stopping you?

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Slayer_22
01/09/22 9:44:34 PM
#329:


Be careful, fellas. Cyric might start bringing up personal stuff because you're pretty much egging him on to doing it.

But don't worry, he'll feel bad about it later.

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RyukSan
01/09/22 9:45:16 PM
#330:


CyricZ posted...
"Something you knew was a dealbreaker"? It's so certain now? 100%?

You've spent time in this topic talking about "most people". "Well known". Suddenly things are apparently all too certain now.
Yes, most people.

Most cis gendered people are not down for having sex with transgendered people. Acting like you didn't know shows just how dishonest about this discussion you are.
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CyricZ
01/09/22 9:47:57 PM
#331:


RyukSan posted...
Most cis gendered people are not down for having sex with transgendered people. Acting like you didn't know shows just how dishonest about this discussion you are.
How many?

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Slayer_22
01/09/22 9:49:16 PM
#332:


CyricZ posted...

How many?

Yeah, give the exact amount down to the number. Cyric demands it.

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Lorenzo_2003
01/09/22 10:11:35 PM
#333:


RyukSan posted...
Yes, most people.

Most cis gendered people are not down for having sex with transgendered people. Acting like you didn't know shows just how dishonest about this discussion you are.

@RyukSan
We dont even have to go far to see this. The poll here is currently showing 75.8 percent voting No. Thats a huge percentage as far as polls go and considering CE is already one of the most woke places anywhere. Imagine the poll results if it were done outside CE.

Cyricz is just pretending to not know these things.

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Smackems
01/09/22 10:12:56 PM
#334:


Stop telling people who they should wanna fuck

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CyricZ
01/09/22 10:26:26 PM
#335:


Since when has the majority always been right?

Hell since when have CE polls meant anything?

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Slayer_22
01/09/22 10:34:20 PM
#336:


Cyric: "Most people? Says who?"

Everyone else: "Well, here's some numbers..."

Cyric: "Who cares about numbers?"

Cyric is big braining this topic now.

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Gwynevere
01/10/22 7:16:26 AM
#337:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
considering CE is already one of the most woke places anywhere
I want a hit of whatever you're on, it seems like some reality changing shit

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BurmesePenguin
01/10/22 7:30:31 AM
#338:


Shablagoo posted...
No, of course not. And she didnt have to say anything pre-op either.
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Ryangrad
01/10/22 11:38:07 AM
#339:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
CE is already one of the most woke places anywhere


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CyricZ
01/10/22 11:49:50 AM
#340:


Lol yeah nothing more woke than a bunch of aging gamer bros kvetching over their video game waifus not being pretty enough.

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eston
01/10/22 11:50:23 AM
#341:


Realistically, if a woman you're with informs you that she can't have children but doesn't elaborate on why, no dude is going to demand to know the exact specific reason why she can't

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gamestunner
01/10/22 11:55:12 AM
#342:


I mean, the guy is gonna know once he see it.
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Fazeo13
01/10/22 12:26:15 PM
#343:


gamestunner posted...
I mean, the guy is gonna know once he see it.


She could say she injured her vagina in a sporting accident?

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CyricZ
01/10/22 12:44:53 PM
#344:


Thus was already covered in this topic, but the work done these days is pretty damn good

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UndefeatedGOAT
01/10/22 12:47:46 PM
#345:


Just to clarify

Our stance is no one should have to ever disclose this?
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Cocytus
01/10/22 12:50:22 PM
#346:


gamestunner posted...
I mean, the guy is gonna know once he see it.
The Crying Game
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asdf8562
01/10/22 12:54:46 PM
#347:


UndefeatedGOAT posted...
Just to clarify

Our stance is no one should have to ever disclose this?
No.
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UndefeatedGOAT
01/10/22 12:55:41 PM
#348:


asdf8562 posted...

No.


Im asking the libs
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Lil_Bit83
01/10/22 12:59:39 PM
#349:


Bad move. Be honest and date within circles that are less likely to have raging homophobes in them.

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asdf8562
01/10/22 1:12:03 PM
#350:


UndefeatedGOAT posted...
Im asking the libs
The definition of "liberal" seems to fly all over the place, depending on who you ask.

Say something not pro Trump to a MAGA supporter and you must be a lib/communist/socialist. "Wanting to help poor people or other races financially struggling is Communism!!"

Then you have discussions like this topic that assumes you must be conservative/MAGA/GOP if you don't want to have sex with transgendered.

Wherever you stand on this topic is regardless to where your politics are.
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Eramir
01/10/22 1:18:28 PM
#351:


I would fuck her and give her a really good time but with all due respect she needs to tell her partner shes trans
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UndefeatedGOAT
01/10/22 1:25:46 PM
#352:


asdf8562 posted...

The definition of "liberal" seems to fly all over the place, depending on who you ask.

Say something not pro Trump to a MAGA supporter and you must be a lib/communist/socialist. "Wanting to help poor people or other races financially struggling is Communism!!"

Then you have discussions like this topic that assumes you must be conservative/MAGA/GOP if you don't want to have sex with transgendered.

Wherever you stand on this topic is regardless to where your politics are.


Sure, Ill agree to that
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Lil_Bit83
01/10/22 1:26:39 PM
#353:


Musourenka posted...
As far as I know, the proper term for "born a man/woman" is Assigned Male/Female At Birth, which acknowledges both a person's sex and that the person identifies as a gender different from what was given to them. My explanation is pretty crude though, so if someone has a better way to explain AMAB / AFAB, I woild appreciate it.
Let me explain it to you in a way you'd understand. Some people are straight, some swing both ways, some are only attracted to their gender. Telling people that they need to be attracted to trans men/women, is just as bad as telling homosexuals that they need to be attracted to people of the opposite gender.

As long as someone's attractions and sexual appetites don't maliciously harm others, such as pedophilia, beastiality, rape/molestation they're allowed to be attracted to same gender, opposite gender, mixed gender. And no one has the right to try and demand otherwise.

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CyricZ
01/10/22 1:29:06 PM
#354:


Lil_Bit83 posted...
Telling people that they need to be attracted to trans men/women
Nobody. Not a single person is saying this.

Also I have no idea how you thought your statement was applicable to that post. That post isn't saying that at all. That post is discussing the concept of AMAB/AFAB.

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