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V-E-G-Y-
01/06/22 7:54:45 AM
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Are you ok with dis


https://v.redd.it/rldmcez3oy981/DASH_720.mp4?source=fallback

Does she still have to say anything now dat she has a V? I thought only pre op might need to say something

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gunplagirl
01/06/22 8:00:08 AM
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She's going stealth, and depending on where she lives that's hugely to her benefit.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/06/22 8:03:40 AM
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Would lying about this to get sex by rape by coercion (I think that's the term)?

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gunplagirl
01/06/22 8:11:13 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Would lying about this to get sex by rape by coercion (I think that's the term)?
Maybe in the UK but nowhere in the US. Especially since she'd not be screaming 'I'm a cis woman and menstruating and able to be impregnated' or anything else that might lead to causing genuine harm by knowingly misrepresenting herself.

Hell, it's not even consistent in the US to charge an undercover officer with it if he has sex with girls under his alias and made up life and job history. What I'm saying is, just because you heard a criminal charge doesn't mean it's that straightforward.

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Shablagoo
01/06/22 8:13:44 AM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
Does she still have to say anything now dat she has a V? I thought only pre op might need to say something

No, of course not. And she didnt have to say anything pre-op either.

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Xavier_On_High
01/06/22 8:21:36 AM
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She doesn't have to say shit.

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Kakapo
01/06/22 8:23:36 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
She doesn't have to say shit.


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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/06/22 8:24:21 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Maybe in the UK but nowhere in the US. Especially since she'd not be screaming 'I'm a cis woman and menstruating and able to be impregnated' or anything else that might lead to causing genuine harm by knowingly misrepresenting herself.

Hell, it's not even consistent in the US to charge an undercover officer with it if he has sex with girls under his alias and made up life and job history. What I'm saying is, just because you heard a criminal charge doesn't mean it's that straightforward.
The topic was about a girl who had on her dating profile that she didn't want anyone who had been vaxxed. I tend to agree with you that it's not straightforward, but that got a few users to jump on me. But it's CE

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Kaiganeer
01/06/22 8:25:25 AM
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that's fucked up
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Fazeo13
01/06/22 8:25:45 AM
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What did dey do to her bottom?

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SergeantGander
01/06/22 8:27:34 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
She doesn't have to say shit.

Yea I agree. If you have ever seen after pics of bottom surgery, it isn't hard to tell.

Just hopefully, she doesn't ever interact with a terrible person that gets angry and causes her harm when they're that far along in the act.

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bsp77
01/06/22 8:35:58 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
No, of course not. And she didnt have to say anything pre-op either.
"Have to...?" No.
Should? Yes.

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Shablagoo
01/06/22 8:38:54 AM
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bsp77 posted...
"Have to...?" No.
Should? Yes.

Sure, I just want to stress that its the unfortunately prevailing machismo in the popular consciousness fault that they should, its not on them at all.

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Xavier_On_High
01/06/22 8:39:00 AM
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SergeantGander posted...
Yea I agree. If you have ever seen after pics of bottom surgery, it isn't hard to tell.

Not my reasoning, but sure.

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gunplagirl
01/06/22 8:39:12 AM
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SergeantGander posted...
Yea I agree. If you have ever seen after pics of bottom surgery, it isn't hard to tell.
Just because you saw some porn pics of ladyboys who got surgery for as cheap as possible in Southeast Asia doesn't mean that's representative of how most of them look. Also there's plenty of breakthroughs in the process itself both for form and functionality. With most of them that have been done in the past decade in the US especially, you'd not be able to tell the difference if one was right in front of you.

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Musourenka
01/06/22 8:40:31 AM
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She didn't have to say anything before. She still doesn't have to say anything now.

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mooreandrew58
01/06/22 8:41:44 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
She doesn't have to say shit.

In a ideal world maybe. For her own safety I feel it's probably better though.

Imagine she ends up with a dude that's against that. And he does some snooping and learns the truth and hurts or kills her over it. And before someone says she wouldn't date someone against it a lot of people lie these days cause they don't wanna be called a bigot.

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g0ldie
01/06/22 8:41:47 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Would lying about this to get sex by rape by coercion (I think that's the term)?
nah, it's not coercion.

you can argue that it might be deception, but unless if you ask her directly, idk if you have any ground to stand on.

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Flauros
01/06/22 8:44:03 AM
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SergeantGander posted...


Yea I agree. If you have ever seen after pics of bottom surgery, it isn't hard to tell.
Ive seen hundreds of NVDs and a lot of them arent pretty.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/06/22 8:45:11 AM
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g0ldie posted...
nah, it's not coercion.

you can argue that it might be deception, but unless if you ask her directly, idk if you have any ground to stand on.
Oh yeah deception was the term I was thinking of. She does say she's never telling again

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/06/22 8:47:58 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Just because you saw some porn pics of ladyboys who got surgery for as cheap as possible in Southeast Asia doesn't mean that's representative of how most of them look. Also there's plenty of breakthroughs in the process itself both for form and functionality. With most of them that have been done in the past decade in the US especially, you'd not be able to tell the difference if one was right in front of you.
Okay, maybe a dumb question. By all accounts, does sex feel good to someone that has had the full MtF transition surgeries?

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Ar0ge
01/06/22 8:48:08 AM
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I have to agree with the people saying that she SHOULD say something. It's the right and honest thing to do. I don't care how good they make it look. It's not the same thing.

And this is for both male and female. If a transgender male has had an operation down there, I believe he should also be honest about it and let his partner know.
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mooreandrew58
01/06/22 8:50:23 AM
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Ar0ge posted...
I have to agree with the people saying that she SHOULD say something. It's the right and honest thing to do. I don't care how good they make it look. It's not the same thing.

And this is for both male and female. If a transgender male has had an operation down there, I believe he should also be honest about it and let his partner know.

I agree with that to a degree as well. Going out on dates at first maybe not so much. But once it goes physical yeah. Relationships should be built on truth and trust. And ideally a relationship shouldn't go physical until there are actual feelings involved.

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bsp77
01/06/22 8:51:38 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
And ideally a relationship shouldn't go physical until there are actual feelings involved.
Lol

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mooreandrew58
01/06/22 8:54:12 AM
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bsp77 posted...
Lol

I know it doesn't happen. But ideally it should. I'm kinda old school. One night stands are a different beast but you open yourself up to way worst risks than fucking a biologically born man when you go around doing that.

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gunplagirl
01/06/22 8:56:32 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Okay, maybe a dumb question. By all accounts, does sex feel good to someone that has had the full MtF transition surgeries?
Barring complications or getting a no depth procedure which would make it impossible to have penetrative sex with, yes. Most of the time it's even better than any self gratification might have been like before surgery.

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bsp77
01/06/22 8:59:17 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
I know it doesn't happen. But ideally it should. I'm kinda old school. One night stands are a different beast but you open yourself up to way worst risks than fucking a biologically born man when you go around doing that.
I am just screwing with you more than anything. And I don't necessarily disagree tbh. But lots of us go through a slutty phase or just need those experiences.

When I am actually looking for a relationship, then yeah feelings are good of course first. I won't need to wait until I am love with them, but I do get some feelings pretty quickly. Hell, with an ex gf I got feelings after our awesome 8 hour first date.

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gunplagirl
01/06/22 8:59:28 AM
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Ar0ge posted...
I have to agree with the people saying that she SHOULD say something. It's the right and honest thing to do. I don't care how good they make it look. It's not the same thing.

And this is for both male and female. If a transgender male has had an operation down there, I believe he should also be honest about it and let his partner know.
Do you tell everyone you get intimate with that you're a cis man? Or do you think only trans people should reveal that information?

mooreandrew58 posted...
I know it doesn't happen. But ideally it should. I'm kinda old school. One night stands are a different beast but you open yourself up to way worst risks than fucking a biologically born man when you go around doing that.
"Biological man" isn't a scientific term and at best it's a misnomer based on a lot of assumptions and ignores how utterly complex and vast sex actually is. Please refrain from ever using it.

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Master Kazuya
01/06/22 9:01:10 AM
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I think for bearing children it would actually matter

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mooreandrew58
01/06/22 9:06:42 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Do you tell everyone you get intimate with that you're a cis man? Or do you think only trans people should reveal that information?

"Biological man" isn't a scientific term and at best it's a misnomer based on a lot of assumptions and ignores how utterly complex and vast sex actually is. Please refrain from ever using it.

Instead of just telling me I'm "wrong" correct me. What is the term for someone born a man as in born with a penis then transitions? There has to be a term for cause its a real thing

Or is this some thing where people get offended that it's a true fact people are born with certain sex organs?

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FortuneCookie
01/06/22 9:08:45 AM
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Don't get the bottom surgery. Just have fun being a girl with some nonconventional equipment. :3
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gunplagirl
01/06/22 9:09:05 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Instead of just telling me I'm "wrong" correct me. What is the term for someone born a man as in born with a penis then transitions? There has to be a term for cause its a real thing
She wasn't born a man, not the least of which is because man entails some degree of physical maturation that a newborn would lack

And the term you're looking for would be trans woman

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mooreandrew58
01/06/22 9:10:21 AM
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bsp77 posted...
I am just screwing with you more than anything. And I don't necessarily disagree tbh. But lots of us go through a slutty phase or just need those experiences.

When I am actually looking for a relationship, then yeah feelings are good of course first. I won't need to wait until I am love with them, but I do get some feelings pretty quickly. Hell, with an ex gf I got feelings after our awesome 8 hour first date.

That's fine. I've fallen quick for people too and I've had a slutty phase. As said there are more risks involved when doing such things though and people should realize the risks and only blame themselves when it doesn't go their way. But if one is taking their time to pursue something meaningful I feel honesty between the two is key.

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Medussa
01/06/22 9:10:38 AM
#36:


FortuneCookie posted...


this ain't it


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PuppetPalClem
01/06/22 9:12:15 AM
#37:


gunplagirl posted...
She wasn't born a man, not the least of which is because man entails some degree of physical maturation that a newborn would lack

And the term you're looking for would be trans woman
Pretty sure he means male. Not man.

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bsp77
01/06/22 9:13:10 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
That's fine. I've fallen quick for people too and I've had a slutty phase. As said there are more risks involved when doing such things though and people should realize the risks and only blame themselves when it doesn't go their way. But if one is taking their time to pursue something meaningful I feel honesty between the two is key.
I agree, especially with the bolded. Hence my answer of "should tell" to this question.

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FortuneCookie
01/06/22 9:13:35 AM
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Medussa posted...
this ain't it

It would look good on her though. :<
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gunplagirl
01/06/22 9:13:45 AM
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PuppetPalClem posted...
Pretty sure he means male. Not man.
And he'd still be inaccurate, which is kinda my point that his reckless and incorrect word usage is a problem

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g0ldie
01/06/22 9:14:21 AM
#41:


Master Kazuya posted...
I think for bearing children it would actually matter
tbf, many couples are unable to conceive due to one or both partners, so something like this wouldn't be anything new

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eston
01/06/22 9:15:07 AM
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On the one hand I don't think she should be required to tell anyone, but at the same time I feel like if a dude has a problem with her being trans then why would she want to date someone like that. Keeping it a secret really only facilitates her dating bigots

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Flauros
01/06/22 9:15:44 AM
#43:


g0ldie posted...
tbf, many couples are unable to conceive due to one or both partners, so something like this wouldn't be anything new
Many? Like how many? 50-60% overall?

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g0ldie
01/06/22 9:16:12 AM
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I didn't say most

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/06/22 9:17:46 AM
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g0ldie posted...
tbf, many couples are unable to conceive due to one or both partners, so something like this wouldn't be anything new
There is a difference between finding out together that someone can't have kids and one party knowing they can't have kids and concealing that. Imo of course

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Shablagoo
01/06/22 9:18:32 AM
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Flauros posted...
Many? Like how many? 50-60% overall?

There are 200,000 cases of infertility per year in the U.S. alone. Worldwide about 15% of couples are affected by it. So, no, not 50-60% but still pretty significant.

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g0ldie
01/06/22 9:18:49 AM
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truu

edit: at post 45

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mooreandrew58
01/06/22 9:19:19 AM
#48:


gunplagirl posted...
She wasn't born a man, not the least of which is because man entails some degree of physical maturation that a newborn would lack

And the term you're looking for would be trans woman

Thank you. I can't keep up with what other people consider offensive these days. I don't live on the internet and I live in a rural area. I feel people should just politely correct/educate others rather than jumping to "that's offensive" there would be less animosity I feel as some people are open minded just ignorant but when challenged will dig their heels in cause human nature dictates we don't like being wrong and especially don't like being called out on it publicly.

You weren't that bad though. We managed to keep it civil I feel. But had I been like a lot of people that live around here it could turned south and ultimately nobody would have won.

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Master Kazuya
01/06/22 9:20:45 AM
#49:


g0ldie posted...
tbf, many couples are unable to conceive due to one or both partners, so something like this wouldn't be anything new

Not being able to conceive would still be important information to disclose even if they were cis

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Master Kazuya
01/06/22 9:21:31 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Thank you. I can't keep up with what other people consider offensive these days. I don't live on the internet and I live in a rural area. I feel people should just politely correct/educate others rather than jumping to "that's offensive" there would be less animosity I feel as some people are open minded just ignorant but when challenged will dig their heels in cause human nature dictates we don't like being wrong and especially don't like being called out on it publicly.

You weren't that bad though. We managed to keep it civil I feel. But had I been like a lot of people that live around here it could turned south and ultimately nobody would have won.

Don't worry, you're pandering to someone perpetually upset at the world, it's not you mate

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