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XIII_rocks
12/19/21 8:26:07 AM
#51:


MrGreenonion posted...
He was changed by the MCU's different energy. Remember, all the electricity in the world is generated by arc reactors now, and when Electro absorbed it, it literally made him like Tony Stark (the goatee specifically, the overall coolness and style in general).

I'm gonna go with it because comic book movie but for the record this is absolutely hilarious bullshit

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HanOfTheNekos
12/19/21 6:03:31 PM
#52:


Come to another conclusion. The themes/morals of the story conflict.

Peter has to learn to live with the consequences of his decisions and life.
Peter is right to do what he is doing because "that's what we do", as said by the other Spideys.

Was Peter wrong to try to avoid dealing with the consequences of his decisions? Or was he right to cause problems by trying to, because it's the "right thing".

Seems as though the moral is "Do the right thing. You will be punished for it. Deal with it."

Like, MJ made it clear the entire movie - she's down with him being a hero. Ned too. Peter repeatedly made decisions in spite of that. He repeatedly ignored Doctor Strange. And he gets rewarded by the other Spideys clapping him on the back, telling him that's what they do, and then he fucking breaks every promise he ever made to MJ and Ned?

Man, fuck him.

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SwiftyDC
12/19/21 6:12:50 PM
#53:


Peter is just a kid. And this is his origin story.

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Raka_Putra
12/19/21 9:16:13 PM
#54:


It was great fun, though some of the moments were very fan-servicey and would make basically no sense for people who didn't watch the previous 5 pre-MCU films.

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XIII_rocks
12/19/21 9:18:15 PM
#55:


Movie made me so happy. I want to watch it again at some point.

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StealThisSheen
12/19/21 9:23:18 PM
#56:


Very fun movie. Enjoyed it alot.

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PerfectChaosZ
12/19/21 10:03:19 PM
#57:


I don't why he couldn't just go through with the original spell and then tell Ned and MJ again afterward. Would Strange have forgotten in that second too and wondered why there was some kid there? Seems like he would have bought it if Peter told him that he did it and specifically what he just did.
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XIII_rocks
12/19/21 10:10:27 PM
#58:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
I don't why he couldn't just go through with the original spell and then tell Ned and MJ again afterward. Would Strange have forgotten in that second too and wondered why there was some kid there? Seems like he would have bought it if Peter told him that he did it and specifically what he just did.

He hesitated at least partly because he thought MJ might only be with him because he was Spiderman

Also because he kind of just wanted everything to be perfect. Goblin even says it.

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Johnbobb
12/19/21 11:06:47 PM
#59:


ScareChan posted...
Also Danny Rojas bartender
@ScareChan it took SO MUCH willpower to not shout DANI DANI ROJAS FOOOTBALL IS LIFE at the screen the moment he showed up

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Aecioo
12/19/21 11:31:33 PM
#60:


Willem Dafoe continues to prove that his Goblin is iconic and overlooked when it comes to film villains

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PerfectChaosZ
12/19/21 11:32:42 PM
#61:


I can't believe Dafoe's goblin was somehow even better. And my goodness is Molina's Doc Ock iconic.
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Aecioo
12/19/21 11:34:39 PM
#62:


also

FOOTBALL IS LIFE!

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TheRock1525
12/19/21 11:51:20 PM
#63:


Aecioo posted...
Willem Dafoe continues to prove that his Goblin is iconic and overlooked when it comes to film villains

PerfectChaosZ posted...
I can't believe Dafoe's goblin was somehow even better. And my goodness is Molina's Doc Ock iconic.

It's why Spider-Man 1 and 2 are still the best Spider-Man movies and Sam Raimi is still a great director.

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SwiftyDC
12/20/21 2:49:30 AM
#64:


ZenOfThunder posted...
best part of the post-credits:

THE CHAOS DIMENSIOOOOOON

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/9/5/AAHLcRAACtob.jpg

https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/gargantos-showdown-76205

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most_games_r_ok
12/20/21 3:12:24 AM
#65:


Saw this banger a few days ago. Possibly a 10/10 movie but probably not if stop being a fanboy. Was unfortunately a 3/10 movie experience had the worse little shits there, like 8 12 year olds all sitting in my row. Feel like I need to see it again tbh.

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LinkMarioSamus
12/20/21 8:10:22 AM
#66:


I never got the impression Dafoe's Green Goblin was underrated, although that could be solely due to hearing so much hype for Spider-Man 1 & 2.

Now Jeff Bridges as Obadiah Stane, THERE'S an underrated superhero movie villain.

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Mega Mana
12/20/21 11:35:20 AM
#67:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
I never got the impression Dafoe's Green Goblin was underrated, although that could be solely due to hearing so much hype for Spider-Man 1 & 2.

People don't like the power rangers mask.

Which... look at Dafoe in this movie. Fuck that mask.


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SwiftyDC
12/20/21 12:51:52 PM
#68:


I actually dig the GG mask, but totally agree, Dafoe's crazy facial expressions added with the shredded purple hoodie is chef-kiss perfect.

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LinkMarioSamus
12/20/21 1:08:36 PM
#69:


I just remember how in his Old vs. New of the Raimi Spider-Man films vs. the Marc Webb duology the Nostalgia Critic gave the point to the former regarding villains entirely because they were more memorable. Note he decided he preferred the latter films overall because he liked Garfield's Spidey more, thought the films had better action scenes, and vastly preferred Emma Stone's Gwen Stacy to Kirsten Dunst's Mary Jane.

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Waluigi1
12/20/21 6:01:35 PM
#70:


Amazing movie, can't wait to see it again. Can't believe what they pulled off.

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LinkMarioSamus
12/21/21 7:18:02 AM
#73:


Some dummies are trying to spin this movie's success into saying it somehow goes against Marvel's "woke narrative". What narrative? I swear these guys HATE diversity, otherwise they wouldn't be so glad about their precious white man besting everyone else at the box office. My goodness.

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PerfectChaosZ
12/21/21 12:39:12 PM
#74:


God they're obsessed
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ChaosTonyV4
12/21/21 12:56:32 PM
#76:


UltimaterializerX posted...


If you think the video is dumb and makes a dumb point, then dont watch it and shut the fuck up. We dont care.

Who is we bro? Who else is brain-poisoned enough to care about what TheQuartering thinks?

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skullbone
12/21/21 1:04:52 PM
#77:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Who is we bro? Who else is brain-poisoned enough to care about what TheQuartering thinks?

Pretty sure Ulti was talking to LMS. The guy who refuses to stop watching/talking about youtube videos for movies he hasn't watched.

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MrGreenonion
12/21/21 1:47:23 PM
#78:


SwiftyDC posted...
I actually dig the GG mask, but totally agree, Dafoe's crazy facial expressions added with the shredded purple hoodie is chef-kiss perfect.
Yeah I had no problem with the mask at all, but like why hire Willem Dafoe to play a crazy guy and then cover up his face, it doesn't make sense.

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Leonhart4
12/21/21 1:50:11 PM
#79:


MrGreenonion posted...
Yeah I had no problem with the mask at all, but like why hire Willem Dafoe to play a crazy guy and then cover up his face, it doesn't make sense.

I mean superhero movies now do everything they can to show everyone's faces at all times, so why even wear masks anymore...!

I'm kind of surprised they let Spider-Man become anonymous again because of that.

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LinkMarioSamus
12/21/21 2:58:01 PM
#81:


I didn't watch the videos (well I did happen on one livestream from Midnight's Edge which I took part in for a bit before bailing out), I was more noting that they're being put up in the first place.

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skullbone
12/21/21 3:04:04 PM
#82:


So you've evolved to talking about YouTube videos you haven't seen for movies you haven't seen?

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LinkMarioSamus
12/21/21 3:21:25 PM
#83:


Was more noting something I just saw!

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Leonhart4
12/21/21 3:27:32 PM
#84:


It did not need to be noted. If even you did not want to watch it, rest assured no one else here does.

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redrocket
12/21/21 4:44:03 PM
#86:


skullbone posted...
So you've evolved to talking about YouTube videos you haven't seen for movies you haven't seen?

literally next level

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ScareChan
12/21/21 7:27:01 PM
#87:


I don't think I mentioned this before

Hannibul Buress's time in this movie was so short, but he made me laugh so much in his scene

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XIII_rocks
12/21/21 7:54:50 PM
#88:


ScareChan posted...
Hannibul Buress's time in this movie was so short, but he made me laugh so much in his scene

He was great

And I'm glad they gave all 3 teachers a cameo, even though the story left that part of his life behind a bit

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_stingers_
12/22/21 1:16:37 AM
#89:


I haven't seen a marvel movie since like iron man 2 but I randomly saw this tonight on a date. So the fan service with the old spider man cast made my night. Is it just me or is Zendaya a bad actress though? She felt so flat and it's weird that she's relegated to comic relief for 90% of the movie

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TheRock1525
12/22/21 2:00:26 AM
#90:


"Hero" by Chad Kroeger featuring Josey Scott did not play at any point in the movie.

0/10 worst mcu movie ever made

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TheRock1525
12/22/21 2:04:41 AM
#91:


Also this movie was created for the sole purpose of pulling Spidey out of the MCU, right? Maybe it was already discussed, but stripping Spidey all the way down to "dude who lives alone in an apartment while fighting crime as Spider-Man" feels absolutely barebones with no connections to the MCU anymore.

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redrocket
12/22/21 4:48:03 AM
#92:


No, its already confirmed that Holland will be making more movies that will take place in the MCU.

However, this does reset his character so that he will be starting over from scratch and working independently rather than leaning on his connection to the Avengers (which some fans took issue with).

In effect this is the MCU version of One More Day/Brand New Day and also this entire trilogy together works as his origin story.

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XIII_rocks
12/22/21 5:43:22 AM
#93:


I did think the ending could serve to remove him from the MCU if they chose to go that way, yeah

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Grand Kirby
12/22/21 6:43:15 AM
#94:


I thought that too, but also figured if they really wanted to write him out of the MCU they would have made it so that he would end up trapped in Tom Hardy's world somehow so that Sony would have Spider-Man in their cinematic universe.

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LinkMarioSamus
12/22/21 7:34:20 AM
#95:


_stingers_ posted...
I haven't seen a marvel movie since like iron man 2 but I randomly saw this tonight on a date. So the fan service with the old spider man cast made my night. Is it just me or is Zendaya a bad actress though? She felt so flat and it's weird that she's relegated to comic relief for 90% of the movie

I wasn't a fan of her in Homecoming but somehow took more to her in Far From Home. Then again I didn't like Homecoming much to begin with.

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HanOfTheNekos
12/22/21 10:45:26 AM
#96:


redrocket posted...
and also this entire trilogy together works as his origin story.

Does it work though? People were glad that MCU spidey didn't have an origin story - allowed him to have films without needing to establish that.

Now, you're saying Spider-Man's origin story was "got spider powers somehow, got picked up by Iron Man to fight other heroes, fought his girlfriend's villain dad under the somewhat guidance of Iron Man, went to space to help fight off Thanos, died, came back to life 5 years later, aunt found out about him being Spider-Man, went on a cross-world tour to help fight off new menaces along with Mysterio, stopped Mysterio from being bad since he was a fraud but got revealed to the public at large as Spider-Man, broke a bunch of people from the multiverse into his world, met other versions of Spider-Man, solved it all while making the entire world forget who he was"?

That's not an origin story.

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ChaosTonyV4
12/22/21 11:00:16 AM
#97:


Its metaphor, except for his powers, everything we know about the character is different nowits a new beginning.

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Mac Arrowny
12/22/21 11:08:00 AM
#98:


technically you could say the same about IM3 considering the ending of that movie

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Leonhart4
12/22/21 11:44:01 AM
#99:


I wouldn't call it an origin story, but it closes the loop on the trilogy and gives them the freedom to do pretty much whatever they want with the next one. He doesn't have to be shackled to Iron Man's legacy anymore.

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BetrayedTangy
12/22/21 4:24:02 PM
#100:


He just went through an entire character arc, it's definitely not an origin story.

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StealThisSheen
12/22/21 4:44:03 PM
#101:


It's not a literal origin story, but it's like one in that it was basically a "Here's how he got to X," and X is pretty much a blank slate for them to start over from.

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