Current Events > Amazon victim's last words to family; "They won't let us leave."

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Well, of course not. When a tornado warning comes through, you stay where you are. Being in a car is much more dangerous than being in a building.

Yah. Its heartbreaking that people lost their life but you I cant imagine theyd be able to let people leave in conditions like that.

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

White people, man. They just attract them

The first time a white guy set foot in South Africa a tornado came out of nowhere and yeeted him halfway to Antarctica.

Lil_Bit83 posted...

I didn't even know Illinois got tornadoes? RIP

Edwardsville is just 30 minutes from St. Louis

The Popo posted...

Oh yeah, we get several every year. Tornado watches are very common during the summer. Although it isnt nearly as bad here as it is in Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas.

Scary.

TheGoldenEel posted...

I found this image from Wikipedia to be interesting

areas where tornados are common:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/8/AAW8UqAACsWI.jpg

Other than the fact that tornados dont seem to form in deserts, this seems really random

If you think Amazon didnt have a plan in place for this you're wrong. They came up with it before the warehouse even opened. A team of lawyers came up with what they felt would be the best direction for Amazon to give employees to avoid any form of lawsuit or monetary loss.

DontHaveACowMan posted...

If you think Amazon didnt have a plan in place for this you're wrong. They came up with it before the warehouse even opened. A team of lawyers came up with what they felt would be the best direction for Amazon to give employees to avoid any form of lawsuit or monetary loss.

You think they drilled on this? You think they did more than maybe put a poster in/near the break room and sent periodic e-mails to management?
You really think Amazon gives a damn or that they'll see anything approaching real consequences for people dying because of them?

Go ahead, keep buying from amazon.
Keep giving them more power.
This is what you as a consumer have created.

Damn_Underscore posted...

Other than the fact that tornados dont seem to form in deserts, this seems really random

wtf tornadoes aren't common in australia lol. it's literally the rarest weather event we have.

cyclones are common in NEQ though.

Godnorgosh posted...

Okay, so why wasn't everyone moved there? Did it not have the capacity?

Did you not see the picture? Anybody under the path would have died, sheltered room or not. It's amazing only 6 lost their lives.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/9/3/AABJX0AACsVl.jpg

Let me tell you about the two times a tornado warning happened in my area while I was in my car. Oddly enough, both times I was on my way to vote in a presidential primary. The sirens go off, the radio and your phone start blaring the emergency signal. I got the fuck away from my car and took shelter in the nearest building. First time it was a library, second time it was a church pre-school. I was lucky that I was so close to buildings that werent locked. Because I was going in one way or another.

Theres no time to leave. Thats the worst thing to do. For crying out loud, the general rule is to get out of your car even if youre just jumping down into a shallow ditch. A shallow ditch in the open is better than being in your car. You cant outrun it. You cant even see. You could be driving right towards it and not even know.

This was all unavoidable. It doesnt make it any less tragic.

I'm glad we have all these experts who don't understand how tornadoes work telling us how they think tornadoes work

it's pretty fucked that there was zero policy about what to do in the event of a tornado, though. do they also not have fire drills? wouldn't surprise me because those cost money

Damn_Underscore posted...

Its impossible to know the details of this just from the texts. For example, did Amazon advise them to stay or literally force them to remain in the building, Where was the tornado during all this time? And as people have been saying, running during a tornado is a bad idea and Amazon may have been legally at fault or at least blamed anyway if their employees ran and were killed or injured.

This is great outrage bait tho

This. As much as I want Amazon to pay basic tornado procedure was taught to stay where you are and hide in as small of a room as possible. The guy was not gonna outrun a tornado unless he was already actively moving in the opposite direction.

But from what I understand from that article, it seems like Amazon told them to keep working and disregard the warning initially, in which case the outrage is valid.

Either way, Im sure Amazon has the warehouse itself outsourced to a contractor that outsourced it to another contractor, so unfortunately I doubt theyll actually face any consequences.

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

White people, man. They just attract them

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/1/7/AAEhCpAABJMp.jpg

"Just drive away from it"

lol

Cornmuffins posted...

"Just drive away from it"

lol

whoever said that obviously never saw Twister

Hell throw in some explosions and cows flying around and you got Twister 2: The Reckoning

SparkClark posted...

it's pretty fucked that there was zero policy about what to do in the event of a tornado, though. do they also not have fire drills? wouldn't surprise me because those cost money

My Whole Foods hasnt done a fire drill in years.

Its just a shame Americans are so fucking lazy about literally everything. We could have a real uprising here but people want their shitty Chinese products in 2 days instead of 4 so well let Amazon and every other corporation suck the life from us.

Zikten posted...

He should have gone home. A job isn't worth your life

I quit my last job when covid started. I didn't feel safe and the job wasn't worth it

I quit my second job when covid started. Extra cash wasn't worth the risk of death via heavy public interaction.

What a topic, lol.

Drive away during a tornado warning at night.

Standing around is better than a ditch.

Its like if antivaxxers were put in charge of tornado safety.

DontHaveACowMan posted...

Its just a shame Americans are so fucking lazy about literally everything. We could have a real uprising here but people want their shitty Chinese products in 2 days instead of 4 so well let Amazon and every other corporation suck the life from us.

@DontHaveACowMan I honestly dont think Ive read anything More true in a long time.

White Eagle posted...

Its like if antivaxxers were put in charge of tornado safety.

Strange how flyover weirdos suddenly become savants about this sort of thing.
It's like we get a lot of goddamn tornadoes or something.

After enough of them, you can just taste a tornado in the are.

Id take my car and driving away from a fucking tornado than stay in a non-storm sheltered buliding.

Damn_Underscore posted...

Other than the fact that tornados dont seem to form in deserts, this seems really random

Does it? Seems like the more urban cities the more tornados

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Well, of course not. When a tornado warning comes through, you stay where you are. Being in a car is much more dangerous than being in a building.

This, kinda. They should have had emergency shelter, though.

EmbraceOfDeath posted...

Except this is stupid because they stayed in the building and died anyway. Being away from a tornado is a lot better than being near a tornado.

Which is a fucking stupid remark that also suggests they'd magically know the tornado would or wouldn't hit, and the fact it hit the facility means they'd likely be caught driving out.

Interesting the people who are saying Amazon were correct to remove the victims right to autonomy are also the same people decrying vaccine and mask mandates.

bobaban posted...

Does it? Seems like the more urban cities the more tornados

Tornadoes have a bizarre set of circumstances that they need. Water, a bunch of dry land, the back side of mountains, more dry land, and then more water on the far side.
Deserts tend to be too early in the mix.

You need dry cold winds, then wet hot winds running into that. Basically North America.

Cornmuffins posted...

"Just drive away from it"

lol

If you have enough warning and can read a fucking weather radar and recognize a tornado vortex signature on it and know the surrounding roads extremely well, know what directions are north and south, you can probably drive away. But the odds of a typical Amazon worker or GameFaqs poster accomplishing this safely are practically zero. Based on the posts in this topic, most people dont know shit about tornadoes.

LightHawKnight posted...

Last I checked, if there is a tornado warning, you stay put and hide in a building, not try to run.

You dont stop people from leaving tho. Thats never been in any safety instructions ive seen. If they locked the doors or threatened peoples jobs then Amazon was wrong

Nasty_Nitro posted...

You dont stop people from leaving tho.

Do you even tornado alley?
You find the strongest structural point you can right fuckin now. Sometimes that might even be a deep drainage ditch.

Nasty_Nitro posted...

You dont stop people from leaving tho. Thats never been in any safety instructions ive seen. If they locked the doors or threatened peoples jobs then Amazon was wrong

They definitely didn't lock the doors but they might have been threatened with termination.

Tyranthraxus posted...

but they might have been threatened with termination.

Tornadoes do that much better.

Winnsock posted...

If you have enough warning and can read a fucking weather radar and recognize a tornado vortex signature on it and know the surrounding roads extremely well, know what directions are north and south, you can probably drive away. But the odds of a typical Amazon worker or GameFaqs poster accomplishing this safely are practically zero. Based on the posts in this topic, most people dont know shit about tornadoes.

Lol

Just be a meteorologist with great luck and it'll be fine

I've worked at two different places that didn't allow me to leave during severe weather but there were safe accommodations and I got paid for the time I was sheltering.

Like they weren't just like "Keep working, we'll deal with the tornado when it gets here".

There should be a basement or other kind of shelter to go into, if they are forced to stay at the job.

How have they never built a shelter in Tornado Alley!?

I generally avoid Amazon when I can.

EmbraceOfDeath posted...

Except this is stupid because they stayed in the building and died anyway. Being away from a tornado is a lot better than being near a tornado.

And what makes you think things would be safer outside? AMazon was in the right. The only right. They fucked up everywhere else.

if one thing comes out of this, it needs to be mandated shelter areas everywhere tornadoes form. but i'm sure half the country will fight it tooth and fucking nail.

Anyone who sees tornado carnage and asks "why didn't they just...?" has never seen a herd of cattle and a combine in the air.

That's not an experience I'd wish on anyone.

lZUAL_REBlRTH posted...

Interesting the people who are saying Amazon were correct to remove the victims right to autonomy are also the same people decrying vaccine and mask mandates.

Good point but youll always see Republicans warped their views on Amazon/Jeff Bezos to fit their agenda. Like theyll generally bash Amazon because they view it as a progress or tech type company but defend it when workers ask for more work rights

Burn in hell bezos

So messed up.