Board 8 > Leonhart ranks anything Ace Attorney related (Spoilers)

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Hbthebattle
12/28/21 7:59:30 PM
#452:


Wocky Kitaki

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handsomeboy2012
12/28/21 8:15:04 PM
#453:


Objection 2001 in 4-1
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Leonhart4
12/28/21 10:01:57 PM
#454:


Actually, probably not tonight, but the statute of limitations will not expire, so worry not

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LeonhartFour
12/29/21 10:26:48 PM
#455:


I set my ATM card's number to "0001" because I'm number one!

Phoenix Wright
Miles Edgeworth
Trials & Tribulations
Phoenix and Edgeworth's Dynamic
The Hair Flip
Maya Fey
Godot
Turnabout Goodbyes (1-4)
Dual Destinies
Turnabout Revolution (6-5)
Apollo Justice
The Judge
Detective Dick Gumshoe
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
"My client...Matt Engarde is..."
Cross-Examination ~ Allegro 2004
Protagonist Miles Edgeworth
The Golden Court (L-3)
Pursuit
Turning It All Around
Phoenix/Iris
Ryunosuke Naruhodo
Simon Blackquill
Young Mia Fey
The Super Objection
Presenting Your Attorney's Badge to Everyone You Meet
Susato Mikotoba
Spirit of Justice
Manfred von Karma
The Return of the Great Departed Soul (G2-3)
Cross-examining Animals
Ladders vs. Stepladders
Luke Atmey's Final Testimony
Courtroom Revolutionnaire
Damon Gant
Dhurke Sahdmadhi
Dahlia Hawthorne
Pressing Every Statement
20th Anniversary Artwork
Charley
Investigation Chapters
Board 8 Playthrough Topics
This Topic
Psycho-Locks
Ace Attorney on DS/3DS
Danganronpa
Zero Escape
Ghost Trick

The Herlock Sholmes "Logic and Reasoning Spectacular"

Trucy Wright
Pearl Fey
Adrian Andrews
The Great Ace Attorney 2
Revival of the Prosecutor
Professor Hershel Layton
Turnabout Reclaimed (5-6)
Justice for All

Don't Forget DL-6 - This is a fantastic wham moment. It feels like a lighthearted moment of Maya playing around with the parrot, and then it hits you with "Don't forget DL-6! *squawk*" out of nowhere. If you hadn't figured out that the old man was Yogi yet, you knew for sure now. This is when you start to learn what 1-4 is really about, and it's great.

Ace Attorney Investigations 2
The Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G2-5)
Objection!

Ace Attorney Sound Design/Effects - This has to be strong in a game like this because you're so reliant on atmosphere and presentation since you don't have a lot of interactive gameplay elements or fancy cutscenes. I think my favorite recurring sound effect is the Judge's gavel. Simple and effective.

Picking the Wrong Options on Purpose
G2-5's Music
Rayfa Padma Khura'in
Herlock Sholmes
The Judge's Brother
The Mood Matrix
Investigation ~ Middle 2002
The Adventure of the Runaway Room (G1-3)
Athena Cykes
Gumshoe's Salary
G2-3's Second Dance of Deduction
Jean Greyerl
Acro
Armie Buff
Larry Butz
Furio Tigre
Valant Gramarye
Silence!
G2-4's Dance of Deduction
Barok van Zieks
Gregory Edgeworth
Emeer Punchenbaug
Tahrust Inmee
Bloody Tears
Edgeworth and Gumshoe's Relationship
Enoch Drebber
Twisted Karma and His Last Bow (G2-4)
Magnus McGilded

Objection 2001 in 4-1 - I gotta admit, I marked out super hard when Hobonix did the classic Phoenix finger point along with this theme playing. It might be the most excited I got playing the entire game. Apollo Justice is such a weird game in that it gives you its best shot in the intro case, and it's pretty much downhill from there.

Simon Keyes
Great Ace Attorney Localization
Maya Channeling Mia in the Waitress Uniform
Edgeworth's Secret Steel Samurai Fanboyism
The Adventure of the Unspeakable Story (G1-5)
Punished Apollo
SHUT UP!
Mael Stronghart
Larry's Painting in 3-5
The Forgotten Turnabout (E2-4)
Ryutaro Naruhodo
Zak Gramarye is a Jerk
The Memoirs of the Clouded Kokoro (G2-2)
Ema Skye
Khura'in
Kay Faraday
Raymond Shields

Psyche-Locks - This was a really good gameplay addition that Justice for All made. Investigations became more than just finding evidence and talking to witnesses until they had nothing else to say. Now you were piecing information together and making deductions, so the investigation segments became more proactive. I never liked that you could lose part of your lifebar during them and enter into a trial already at a deficit though.

Spirit Channeling
Polly
The Miracle Never Happen
Investigation ~ Core 2001
Kazuma Asogi
I Can't Defeat Tree Man
Sister Bikini
Gina Lestrade
Redd White of Bluecorp
Herlock Sholmes Dancing Animations
Revisualization

Troupe Gramarye - This is probably the most interesting plot thread Apollo Justice had. This was one messed up family. It makes you wonder where in the world Trucy gets it from and what she would've been like if her dad hadn't selfishly abandoned her. Adding Mr. Reus into the mix in Spirit of Justice was a great decision, too.

HD Sprites
The Updated Autopsy Report
Remote Island Syndrome
Daley Vigil/Gossip
Where is the Murder Weapon?
Eve Darklaw
Albert Harebrayne
Robin Newman
The Mixing Board
The Mikotoba Twist

Believe me, any comic relief I may provide is entirely unintentional.

Zacharias Barnham
Tobias Gregson
Ini & Mimi Miney
Damian Tenma
The Objection Meme Site
Objection.lol
The Divination Seance
Maya's Waitress Uniform
Godot's Visor
Sebastian Debeste
Presenting Profiles
Damon Gant Nicknames
Ace Attorney Pachinko (Rise From the Ashes)
Missile
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Phoenix Wright
3-1 Phoenix's Shirt and What It Really Stands For
Yuri Cosmos
Quinby Altamont
THE MURDER WEAPON WAS UDON DOUGH
Phoenix Throwing Edgeworth a Phone
Bonny and Betty de Famme
Myriam Scuttlebutt
Esmeralda Tusspells
Orla Shipley
Winston Payne
The Payne/Auchi Family
William Shamspeare
Olivia Aldente
Klavier Gavin's 5-3 Cameo
TAHRUST'S DEATH WAS A SUICIDE
Olive Green
2-1's Intro

Kristoph Gavin's Black Psyche-Locks - Dual Destinies gave the black Psyche-Locks an actual significance, but I'm not convinced they meant anything to Takumi other than being a secret so closely guarded that even Phoenix couldn't get to it (as well as looking mysterious). My first time through 4-4, I got so confused that the investigation ended without me breaking them that I thought I must have messed something up, so I reloaded that part, only to feel dumb upon learning that they can't be broken.

Edgeworth's Cravat
Dahlia's Constipation
The Fact That Phoenix Once Tipped a Cow
Peace, Love, and Understanding
Justine Courtney
Klavier Gavin
Bobby Fulbright
The Adventure of the Blossoming Attorney (G2-1)
Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in
Juror No. 4
Japanifornia
Viola Cadaverini
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Live-Action Movie)
Hugh O'Conner
The Great Ace Attorney
Gregory Edgeworth Voice Clips
Shelly de Killer's Sweating Props That Look Suspiciously Like Him
Turnabout Big Top (Anime Version)
Amara Sigatar Khura'in
Moe's Fresh Prince Reference
The Adventure of the Clouded Kokoro (G1-4)
Iris Wilson
Satoru Hosonaga
Satorha!
Multiple Witnesses Mechanic
Ashley Graydon's Dancing
Drew Misham's Paintings
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Case 1s That Tease Dynamics in the Final Case
The Adventure of the Great Departure (G1-1)

Wendy Oldbag - I like her roles in 1-3 and 2-4 ("This is my top secret list of groceries to buyyyyyyy!"). She's annoying, but not in an unlikable way, if that makes sense. I enjoy the "talking too fast for the text boxes to keep up" gimmick. Now her role in AAI1 is...not good. I think it's mostly because they lean into the "infatuated with Edgeworth" stuff way too much, which is funny in limited doses, but this was an overdose.

Dee Vasquez
Franziska von Karma
Soseki Natsume
Espella Cantabella
Quercus Alba
Lisa Basil
Deid Mann
Apollo's Bracelet
Save Scumming
Manfred von Karma Emerging from a Candy Castle
Director Hotti/Hickfield
Jean Armstrong
Samurai Dogs

Misty Fey/Elise Deauxnim - As a plot device, she's great. As a character, I'm not as sold on her. I'm never a fan of the whole "I don't deserve to have a relationship with my kids" trope. How about you let your kids decide that for themselves? Also, my first time through 3-5, I didn't figure out Elise Deauxnim was Misty Fey until you find her talisman in the garden, and it's literally labeled "Kurain Master's Talisman," which made me feel like a dope becau
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LeonhartFour
12/29/21 10:26:52 PM
#456:


I'm not sure I like you wagging your finger at me as though I were some hoser!

Turnabout Musical
Ace Attorney on the Wii
The Dark Age of the Law
The First Turnabout (1-1)
The Great Exhibition
Ace Attorney Stage Plays
Daryan's Hair
Ace Attorney Online
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Search ~ Core 2002
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
The Herlock Sholmes Name Change
Eureka!
Nahyuta Sahdmadhi
Great Ace Attorney Character Designs
Original Concept Art
Gourd Lake
Clay Terran
No Game No Life Cornered Remix
Raiten Menimemo
Forensic Science
Apollo's Backstories
Juniper Woods
Phoenix Eating the Bottle of Poison
The Guitar's Serenade
Wesley Stickler
Shouting "Objection!" into the system's mic
Logic Chess
Angel Starr
Great Ace Attorney 2 Reusing Music
Phoenix/Edgeworth Ship
Ryuichi Naruhodo
The Blue Badger
Showing Vital Evidence to the Prime Suspect
Apollo and Trucy Still Not Knowing They're Siblings
Taka
Venus
Great Ace Attorney Being Stingy with the Pursuit Theme
Ace Attorney's Standards for Guilt and Innocence
2-3's Murder Physics
Extraterritorial Rights
Lamiroir
Northward: Turnabout Express (Ace Attorney Anime Season 2)
No Ace Attorney in Smash Ultimate
The Adventure of the Unbreakable Speckled Band (G1-2)
Music Not Stopping When You Present Evidence
Olga Orly
Darklaw's Age
Sad Monk
Proto Badger

You look like I did after I mistakenly took a swig of Worcestershire sauce.

Florent L'Belle
Mack Rell
Ema Skye's Drawing
Great Ace Attorney Ad Campaign
Phoenix Drive
Touchscreen Mini-Games

Wocky Kitaki - He used to be a lock for worst defendant, but unfortunately, Spirit of Justice gave him some competition! I just don't enjoy his fake tough guy act combined with the gangsta speak and how he's a total sucker for Alita. I get that it's supposed to be a cover for his fears and all, but I just can't feel any sort of sympathy for him.

The Amazing Mr. Hat
Turnabout Serenade (4-3)
Phoenix Using Forged Evidence and Getting Disbarred
Mike Meekins

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Crescent-Moon
12/29/21 10:39:27 PM
#457:


What happened to Von Karma suddenly retraining the parrot

(And worst defendant is still Wocky)

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hombad46
12/29/21 10:42:05 PM
#458:


Overture to Pursuit

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LeonhartFour
12/29/21 10:42:48 PM
#459:


Crescent-Moon posted...
What happened to Von Karma suddenly retraining the parrot

you already nominated the black Psyche-Locks, only one nom per round!

retraining the parrot will be next time

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Hbthebattle
12/29/21 11:06:43 PM
#460:


Turnabout Time Traveler

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Paratroopa1
12/29/21 11:13:18 PM
#461:


The Dissin' of Phoenix Wright
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Raka_Putra
12/30/21 1:06:18 AM
#462:


Yeah Misty does have her own issues to work through. Unfortunately she never had the chance to!

Kisegawa (or if you prefer ranking them as a whole, Uendo Toneido)

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Anagram
12/30/21 1:08:04 AM
#463:


Witnesses/killers who have a second spriteset that activates when you corner them and makes them look more evil and confident.

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handsomeboy2012
12/30/21 7:07:27 AM
#464:


Desk slams
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SeabassDebeste
12/30/21 10:13:18 AM
#465:


LeonhartFour posted...
It might be the most excited I got playing the entire game.

yeah, unfortunately i have to agree here

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Leonhart4
12/30/21 2:34:11 PM
#466:


More tonight

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pjbasis
12/30/21 3:42:37 PM
#467:


Anagram posted...
Witnesses/killers who have a second spriteset that activates when you corner them and makes them look more evil and confident.

Is it just me or has this really been ramped up in the last few games? Like it's not just having a second set of sprites, it's a whole ass different character design.

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Leonhart4
12/30/21 3:48:45 PM
#468:


Yes, every culprit in SoJ transforms in some way, as do most of the DD ones. It's definitely become more of a thing in the main series since Takumi left.

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SSBM_Guy
12/30/21 4:41:30 PM
#469:


Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4)

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LeonhartFour
12/31/21 12:26:17 AM
#470:


I set my ATM card's number to "0001" because I'm number one!

Phoenix Wright
Miles Edgeworth
Trials & Tribulations

Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4) - It's still my favorite case, and it's hard to imagine what it would take to dethrone it. It's Phoenix at his best, it's Edgeworth as maybe the best lawyer we've ever seen, it might be the Judge at his funniest, you've got several compelling characters, and the gut punch of the Engarde hair flip. It's all top notch. Both days are marathons, and it feels completely earned.

Phoenix and Edgeworth's Dynamic
The Hair Flip
Maya Fey
Godot
Turnabout Goodbyes (1-4)
Dual Destinies
Turnabout Revolution (6-5)
Apollo Justice
The Judge
Detective Dick Gumshoe
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
"My client...Matt Engarde is..."
Cross-Examination ~ Allegro 2004
Protagonist Miles Edgeworth
The Golden Court (L-3)
Pursuit
Turning It All Around
Phoenix/Iris
Ryunosuke Naruhodo
Simon Blackquill
Young Mia Fey
The Super Objection
Presenting Your Attorney's Badge to Everyone You Meet
Susato Mikotoba
Spirit of Justice
Manfred von Karma
The Return of the Great Departed Soul (G2-3)
Cross-examining Animals
Ladders vs. Stepladders
Luke Atmey's Final Testimony
Courtroom Revolutionnaire
Damon Gant
Dhurke Sahdmadhi
Dahlia Hawthorne
Pressing Every Statement
20th Anniversary Artwork
Charley

The Dissin' of Phoenix Wright - I'm not as big on Marlon Rimes as some, but this one testimony justifies the entire character's existence. Everything about it is incredible, including overriding the usual cross-examination music for the hardcore rap style. This might be the greatest single testimony by a human being in the series.

Investigation Chapters
Board 8 Playthrough Topics
This Topic
Psycho-Locks
Ace Attorney on DS/3DS
Danganronpa
Zero Escape
Ghost Trick

The Herlock Sholmes "Logic and Reasoning Spectacular"

Trucy Wright
Pearl Fey
Adrian Andrews
The Great Ace Attorney 2
Revival of the Prosecutor
Professor Hershel Layton
Turnabout Reclaimed (5-6)
Justice for All
Don't Forget DL-6
Ace Attorney Investigations 2
The Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G2-5)
Objection!
Ace Attorney Sound Design/Effects
Picking the Wrong Options on Purpose
G2-5's Music
Rayfa Padma Khura'in
Herlock Sholmes
The Judge's Brother
The Mood Matrix
Investigation ~ Middle 2002
The Adventure of the Runaway Room (G1-3)
Athena Cykes
Gumshoe's Salary
G2-3's Second Dance of Deduction
Jean Greyerl
Acro
Armie Buff
Larry Butz
Furio Tigre
Valant Gramarye
Silence!
G2-4's Dance of Deduction
Barok van Zieks
Gregory Edgeworth
Emeer Punchenbaug
Tahrust Inmee
Bloody Tears
Edgeworth and Gumshoe's Relationship
Enoch Drebber
Twisted Karma and His Last Bow (G2-4)
Magnus McGilded
Objection 2001 in 4-1
Simon Keyes
Great Ace Attorney Localization
Maya Channeling Mia in the Waitress Uniform
Edgeworth's Secret Steel Samurai Fanboyism
The Adventure of the Unspeakable Story (G1-5)
Punished Apollo
SHUT UP!
Mael Stronghart
Larry's Painting in 3-5
The Forgotten Turnabout (E2-4)
Ryutaro Naruhodo
Zak Gramarye is a Jerk
The Memoirs of the Clouded Kokoro (G2-2)
Ema Skye
Khura'in
Kay Faraday
Raymond Shields
Psyche-Locks
Spirit Channeling
Polly
The Miracle Never Happen
Investigation ~ Core 2001
Kazuma Asogi
I Can't Defeat Tree Man
Sister Bikini
Gina Lestrade
Redd White of Bluecorp
Herlock Sholmes Dancing Animations
Revisualization
Troupe Gramarye
HD Sprites
The Updated Autopsy Report
Remote Island Syndrome
Daley Vigil/Gossip

Retraining the Parrot - The game repeatedly tells you that Manfred von Karma is always perfectly prepared, but nothing drives it home like this. In a single day, von Karma retrains the parrot not to respond correctly to a single question in the extremely unlikely possibility Phoenix calls Polly to the stand and asks it that question. He even trolls Phoenix just for the heck of it!

Where is the Murder Weapon?
Eve Darklaw
Albert Harebrayne
Robin Newman
The Mixing Board
The Mikotoba Twist

Believe me, any comic relief I may provide is entirely unintentional.

Zacharias Barnham
Tobias Gregson
Ini & Mimi Miney
Damian Tenma
The Objection Meme Site
Objection.lol
The Divination Seance
Maya's Waitress Uniform
Godot's Visor
Sebastian Debeste
Presenting Profiles
Damon Gant Nicknames
Ace Attorney Pachinko (Rise From the Ashes)
Missile
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Phoenix Wright
3-1 Phoenix's Shirt and What It Really Stands For
Yuri Cosmos

Villain Transformations - I don't think the first game even had a real one (you had stuff like Yanni Yogi dropping the crazy old man act, but I wouldn't count that), but up through AAI2, the villain transformation used to be reserved for the big bad. Then starting with DD, it felt like even random characters like Betty de Famme had transformations. I hope they kinda scale it back to what it originally was in the future.

Quinby Altamont
THE MURDER WEAPON WAS UDON DOUGH
Phoenix Throwing Edgeworth a Phone
Bonny and Betty de Famme
Myriam Scuttlebutt
Esmeralda Tusspells
Orla Shipley
Winston Payne
The Payne/Auchi Family
William Shamspeare
Olivia Aldente
Klavier Gavin's 5-3 Cameo
TAHRUST'S DEATH WAS A SUICIDE
Olive Green
2-1's Intro
Kristoph Gavin's Black Psyche-Locks
Edgeworth's Cravat
Dahlia's Constipation
The Fact That Phoenix Once Tipped a Cow

Overture to Pursuit - This is a fun little theme. My favorite part is 30 seconds in when the instrumentation shifts to something else. I like having something that operates as a setup to the main dramatic theme.

Peace, Love, and Understanding
Justine Courtney
Klavier Gavin
Bobby Fulbright
The Adventure of the Blossoming Attorney (G2-1)
Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in
Juror No. 4
Japanifornia
Viola Cadaverini
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Live-Action Movie)
Hugh O'Conner
The Great Ace Attorney
Gregory Edgeworth Voice Clips

Desk Slams - There are two things that immediately come to mind when I think of desk slams, both from 1-3. The first is Phoenix saying, "I was hoping to come up with an objection while I was pounding on my desk, Your Honor. I didn't." The second is Dee Vasquez telling Phoenix, "Stop pounding on your desk. It irritates me," and Edgeworth following it up by slamming his own desk and going, "Yeah! ...Oops." Both are great comedic moments.

Shelly de Killer's Sweating Props That Look Suspiciously Like Him
Turnabout Big Top (Anime Version)
Amara Sigatar Khura'in
Moe's Fresh Prince Reference
The Adventure of the Clouded Kokoro (G1-4)
Iris Wilson
Satoru Hosonaga
Satorha!
Multiple Witnesses Mechanic
Ashley Graydon's Dancing
Drew Misham's Paintings
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Case 1s That Tease Dynamics in the Final Case
The Adventure of the Great Departure (G1-1)
Wendy Oldbag
Dee Vasquez
Franziska von Karma
Soseki Natsume
Espella Cantabella
Quercus Alba

Kisegawa - I don't think Kisegawa is my favorite of Uendo's multiple personalities. I think I'd give that to Patches, but she's pretty good. She's the no-nonsense type who keeps all the others in line. Trying to do line counts for all of Uendo's personalities was a fun challenge when I was replaying Spirit of Justice.

Lisa Basil
Deid Mann
Apollo's Bracelet
Save Scumming
Manfred von Karma Emerging from a Candy Castle
Director Hotti/Hickfield
Jean Armstrong
Samurai Dogs
Misty Fey/Elise Deauxnim
Kristoph's Demon Hand
Benjamin Woodman
Courtney Sithe
Prosecutor Flynch
Lotta Hart

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LeonhartFour
12/31/21 12:26:22 AM
#471:


I'm not sure I like you wagging your finger at me as though I were some hoser!

Turnabout Musical
Ace Attorney on the Wii
The Dark Age of the Law
The First Turnabout (1-1)
The Great Exhibition
Ace Attorney Stage Plays
Daryan's Hair
Ace Attorney Online
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Search ~ Core 2002
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
The Herlock Sholmes Name Change

Turnabout Time Traveler (6-6) - I think I like this case less as time goes by. It's basically meant to be a trip down memory lane with Phoenix, Maya, Edgeworth, and Larry, and I largely enjoy that part of it. The actual details of the case aren't great, and I don't love any of the original characters. I kept trying to convince myself the obvious culprit couldn't be the culprit, and then he was.

Eureka!
Nahyuta Sahdmadhi
Great Ace Attorney Character Designs
Original Concept Art
Gourd Lake
Clay Terran
No Game No Life Cornered Remix
Raiten Menimemo
Forensic Science
Apollo's Backstories
Juniper Woods
Phoenix Eating the Bottle of Poison
The Guitar's Serenade
Wesley Stickler
Shouting "Objection!" into the system's mic
Logic Chess
Angel Starr
Great Ace Attorney 2 Reusing Music
Phoenix/Edgeworth Ship
Ryuichi Naruhodo
The Blue Badger
Showing Vital Evidence to the Prime Suspect
Apollo and Trucy Still Not Knowing They're Siblings
Taka
Venus
Great Ace Attorney Being Stingy with the Pursuit Theme
Ace Attorney's Standards for Guilt and Innocence
2-3's Murder Physics
Extraterritorial Rights
Lamiroir
Northward: Turnabout Express (Ace Attorney Anime Season 2)
No Ace Attorney in Smash Ultimate
The Adventure of the Unbreakable Speckled Band (G1-2)
Music Not Stopping When You Present Evidence
Olga Orly
Darklaw's Age
Sad Monk
Proto Badger

You look like I did after I mistakenly took a swig of Worcestershire sauce.

Florent L'Belle
Mack Rell
Ema Skye's Drawing
Great Ace Attorney Ad Campaign
Phoenix Drive
Touchscreen Mini-Games
Wocky Kitaki
The Amazing Mr. Hat
Turnabout Serenade (4-3)
Phoenix Using Forged Evidence and Getting Disbarred
Mike Meekins

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SeabassDebeste
12/31/21 12:43:54 AM
#472:


if there's anything i have against 2-4 it's that day 2's suicide note got tedious for no real payoff

do the following witnesses transform?

- april may
- ini miney
- dahlia (3-5)

the only real transformation is engarde, but.... dude isn't a witness!

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Hbthebattle
12/31/21 12:47:52 AM
#473:


Ponco

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LeonhartFour
12/31/21 12:48:14 AM
#474:


I'd consider April May and Ini Miney breakdowns more than transformations. Dahlia's transformation isn't over the top, but I think it qualifies.

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Paratroopa1
12/31/21 1:26:38 AM
#475:


I was thinking about this, so I made a list with which I tried to get every character whose sprites change to indicate their true nature. I kinda divided them into three categories, and there is definitely a lot of debate that could be had about who belongs where, but honestly don't bother getting into a hot debate session with me because I'm not dying on any of these hills, I was just trying to get a brief overview.

Basically, AA6 LOVES transformations, and AA5 does them a lot too, but most of the other games don't really rely on this cliche much at all - AA1-3 barely does EVER, and surprisingly the GAA games don't as far as I can remember either (I couldn't think of ANY examples from GAA2 worth including!). The vast majority of characters doing a full transformation sequence are from AA5 and AA6. The only character I can think of who has a full on transformation in the trilogy - an animation to reveal their new form, and an all new set of sprites - is Matt Engarde.

There's a few things I didn't include like innocent characters having breakdowns or characters who don't smile smiling for the first time. Only stuff that really seems to belong in this particular cliche of "a character revealing their true form".

A full transformation of character, with an animation to show their new form:

Matt Engarde
Olga Orly
Quercus Alba
Di-Jun Huang
Simon Keyes
Jean Greyerl
Damian Tenma
Robin Newman
Aristotle Means
Bobby Fulbright
Marlon Rimes
Nikolina Pavlova
Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin
Bonny and Betty de Famme
Roger Retinz
Tahrust Inmee (Maya Fey)
Uendo Toneido/Owen
Geiru Toneido
Armie Buff/Sarge
Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in
Amara Sigatar Khura'in/Nayna
Pierce Nichody

Sprites emerge to indicate demeanor change longterm, but no transformation sequence in particular:

Ini Miney
Dahlia Hawthorne
Cammy Meele
Shih-na
Kira
Magnus McGilded
Datz Are'bal

The mask slips, a new sprite showing a new side to them, but only briefly:

Frank Sahwit
April May
Yanni Yogi
Damon Gant
Kristoph Gavin
Guy Eldoon
Calisto Yew
Justine Courtney
Patricia Roland
Jezaille Brett
Beh'leeb Inmee
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Paratroopa1
12/31/21 1:32:19 AM
#476:


There's probably a lot of shit that I missed btw
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Raka_Putra
12/31/21 2:16:26 AM
#477:


That's a fun list, thanks for compiling that.

LeonhartFour posted...
Kisegawa - I don't think Kisegawa is my favorite of Uendo's multiple personalities. I think I'd give that to Patches, but she's pretty good. She's the no-nonsense type who keeps all the others in line. Trying to do line counts for all of Uendo's personalities was a fun challenge when I was replaying Spirit of Justice.
Fair enough, Patches is a fun. But man Kisegawa made me feel funny and dazed in certain ways. >_> <_<

Nominate: Calisto Yew

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Leonhart4
12/31/21 7:35:19 AM
#478:


For GAA2, I guess you could argue Ryutaro Naruhodo is a transformation lawl

You could probably put Shamspeare into the category of "the mask temporarily slips" but yeah I think that might be it

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Paratroopa1
12/31/21 7:41:01 AM
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Leonhart4 posted...
For GAA2, I guess you could argue Ryutaro Naruhodo is a transformation lawl

You could probably put Shamspeare into the category of "the mask temporarily slips" but yeah I think that might be it
I basically made "the mask temporarily slips" as a category to explain April May, because I think she kind of has the series' first 'transformation' - she has a big animation in which she reveals herself to be evil, and then has a really angry sprite for a bit, before going back to 'normal'. But it's not really quite the same as when the modern games do it where a character just gets a whole new set of sprites on a permanent basis.
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Paratroopa1
12/31/21 7:43:08 AM
#480:


Also obviously some of the 'transformations' I listed are minor - Greyerl just kinda lets her hair down dramatically, Pavlova just takes off a fake beard - but I felt like if I didn't include them someone would mention it lol
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handsomeboy2012
12/31/21 8:00:46 AM
#481:


manfred von karma is DESTROYED
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SeabassDebeste
12/31/21 8:30:41 AM
#482:


yeah, this was a satisfying list to read through, thanks!

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Raka_Putra
12/31/21 8:51:55 AM
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What about Gossip? lol

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Leonhart4
12/31/21 10:10:43 AM
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Raka_Putra posted...
What about Gossip? lol

Haha, that one definitely qualifies. Don't know how I forgot about that one.

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12/31/21 12:19:19 PM
#485:


I didn't think my nomination would trigger a discussion!

Nominate the clock in 5-3 that's wrong with no explanation

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LeonhartFour
12/31/21 7:24:08 PM
#486:


We'll finish this off tomorrow to kick off the new year

Happy New Year, everyone! It might be the Year of the Gum, from what I hear.

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Paratroopa1
12/31/21 8:34:10 PM
#487:


lmao I completely forgot about Gossip somehow, I'm a dumbass
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Crescent-Moon
12/31/21 8:41:20 PM
#488:


Larry Butz objecting after the verdict to save the day

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hombad46
01/01/22 12:52:23 PM
#489:


Bridge to the Turnabout

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LeonhartFour
01/01/22 6:50:11 PM
#490:


I set my ATM card's number to "0001" because I'm number one!

Phoenix Wright
Miles Edgeworth
Trials & Tribulations
Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4)
Phoenix and Edgeworth's Dynamic
The Hair Flip
Maya Fey
Godot
Turnabout Goodbyes (1-4)

Bridge to the Turnabout (3-5) - It closes out the original trilogy on a high note. I get that you might not rate this case highly if you're not into spirit channeling because it's so central to 3-5, but I just love the whole thing. The first day with Edgeworth is perfect fanservice. The second day when Phoenix is as good as any lawyer could hope to be, and Iris really is the person he always thought she was, is just full of emotion. It's kind of wild to think that we haven't seen Mia since, but that's probably for the best.

Dual Destinies
Turnabout Revolution (6-5)
Apollo Justice
The Judge
Detective Dick Gumshoe
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
"My client...Matt Engarde is..."
Cross-Examination ~ Allegro 2004
Protagonist Miles Edgeworth
The Golden Court (L-3)
Pursuit
Turning It All Around
Phoenix/Iris
Ryunosuke Naruhodo
Simon Blackquill
Young Mia Fey
The Super Objection
Presenting Your Attorney's Badge to Everyone You Meet
Susato Mikotoba
Spirit of Justice
Manfred von Karma
The Return of the Great Departed Soul (G2-3)
Cross-examining Animals
Ladders vs. Stepladders
Luke Atmey's Final Testimony
Courtroom Revolutionnaire
Damon Gant
Dhurke Sahdmadhi
Dahlia Hawthorne
Pressing Every Statement
20th Anniversary Artwork
Charley
The Dissin' of Phoenix Wright
Investigation Chapters
Board 8 Playthrough Topics
This Topic
Psycho-Locks
Ace Attorney on DS/3DS
Danganronpa
Zero Escape
Ghost Trick

The Herlock Sholmes "Logic and Reasoning Spectacular"

Trucy Wright
Pearl Fey
Adrian Andrews
The Great Ace Attorney 2
Revival of the Prosecutor
Professor Hershel Layton
Turnabout Reclaimed (5-6)
Justice for All
Don't Forget DL-6
Ace Attorney Investigations 2
The Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G2-5)
Objection!
Ace Attorney Sound Design/Effects
Picking the Wrong Options on Purpose
G2-5's Music
Rayfa Padma Khura'in
Herlock Sholmes
The Judge's Brother
The Mood Matrix
Investigation ~ Middle 2002
The Adventure of the Runaway Room (G1-3)
Athena Cykes
Gumshoe's Salary
G2-3's Second Dance of Deduction
Jean Greyerl
Acro
Armie Buff
Larry Butz
Furio Tigre
Valant Gramarye
Silence!
G2-4's Dance of Deduction
Barok van Zieks
Gregory Edgeworth
Emeer Punchenbaug
Tahrust Inmee
Bloody Tears
Edgeworth and Gumshoe's Relationship
Enoch Drebber
Twisted Karma and His Last Bow (G2-4)
Magnus McGilded
Objection 2001 in 4-1
Simon Keyes
Great Ace Attorney Localization
Maya Channeling Mia in the Waitress Uniform
Edgeworth's Secret Steel Samurai Fanboyism
The Adventure of the Unspeakable Story (G1-5)
Punished Apollo
SHUT UP!
Mael Stronghart
Larry's Painting in 3-5
The Forgotten Turnabout (E2-4)
Ryutaro Naruhodo
Zak Gramarye is a Jerk
The Memoirs of the Clouded Kokoro (G2-2)
Ema Skye
Khura'in
Kay Faraday
Raymond Shields
Psyche-Locks
Spirit Channeling
Polly
The Miracle Never Happen
Investigation ~ Core 2001
Kazuma Asogi
I Can't Defeat Tree Man
Sister Bikini

Larry Butz Saves the Day in 1-4 - This is such a great moment because it's so unexpected. You don't even know Larry's watching the trial, and then suddenly, he's there right after the Guilty verdict has been passed to put it all on the line for Edgeworth. Seeing the Judge withdraw is verdict is a "whoa" moment, and it's even more amazing to think that Larry friggin' Butz played an important role in taking down the greatest prosecutor ever.

Gina Lestrade
Redd White of Bluecorp
Herlock Sholmes Dancing Animations
Revisualization
Troupe Gramarye
HD Sprites
The Updated Autopsy Report
Remote Island Syndrome
Daley Vigil/Gossip
Retraining the Parrot
Where is the Murder Weapon?
Eve Darklaw
Albert Harebrayne
Robin Newman
The Mixing Board
The Mikotoba Twist

Believe me, any comic relief I may provide is entirely unintentional.

Zacharias Barnham
Tobias Gregson
Ini & Mimi Miney
Damian Tenma
The Objection Meme Site
Objection.lol
The Divination Seance
Maya's Waitress Uniform
Godot's Visor
Sebastian Debeste
Presenting Profiles
Damon Gant Nicknames
Ace Attorney Pachinko (Rise From the Ashes)
Missile
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Phoenix Wright
3-1 Phoenix's Shirt and What It Really Stands For
Yuri Cosmos
Villain Transformations
Quinby Altamont
THE MURDER WEAPON WAS UDON DOUGH
Phoenix Throwing Edgeworth a Phone
Bonny and Betty de Famme
Myriam Scuttlebutt
Esmeralda Tusspells
Orla Shipley
Winston Payne
The Payne/Auchi Family
William Shamspeare
Olivia Aldente
Klavier Gavin's 5-3 Cameo
TAHRUST'S DEATH WAS A SUICIDE

Ponco - The twist of using a robot as a witness when they can't process information the same way a human does was really clever. Trying to determine what Ponco meant and how you could "fool" it was a lot of fun. Not to mention, all of its animations are just plain adorable.

Olive Green
2-1's Intro
Kristoph Gavin's Black Psyche-Locks
Edgeworth's Cravat
Dahlia's Constipation
The Fact That Phoenix Once Tipped a Cow
Overture to Pursuit
Peace, Love, and Understanding
Justine Courtney
Klavier Gavin
Bobby Fulbright
The Adventure of the Blossoming Attorney (G2-1)
Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in
Juror No. 4
Japanifornia
Viola Cadaverini
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Live-Action Movie)
Hugh O'Conner
The Great Ace Attorney
Gregory Edgeworth Voice Clips
Desk Slams
Shelly de Killer's Sweating Props That Look Suspiciously Like Him
Turnabout Big Top (Anime Version)
Amara Sigatar Khura'in
Moe's Fresh Prince Reference
The Adventure of the Clouded Kokoro (G1-4)
Iris Wilson
Satoru Hosonaga
Satorha!
Multiple Witnesses Mechanic
Ashley Graydon's Dancing
Drew Misham's Paintings
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Case 1s That Tease Dynamics in the Final Case
The Adventure of the Great Departure (G1-1)
Wendy Oldbag
Dee Vasquez
Franziska von Karma
Soseki Natsume
Espella Cantabella
Quercus Alba
Kisegawa
Lisa Basil
Deid Mann
Apollo's Bracelet
Save Scumming
Manfred von Karma Emerging from a Candy Castle
Director Hotti/Hickfield
Jean Armstrong
Samurai Dogs
Misty Fey/Elise Deauxnim
Kristoph's Demon Hand
Benjamin Woodman
Courtney Sithe
Prosecutor Flynch
Lotta Hart

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LeonhartFour
01/01/22 6:50:17 PM
#491:


I'm not sure I like you wagging your finger at me as though I were some hoser!

Turnabout Musical
Ace Attorney on the Wii
The Dark Age of the Law
The First Turnabout (1-1)
The Great Exhibition
Ace Attorney Stage Plays

Manfred von Karma is DESTROYED - Gotta be honest, I was expecting a bit more considering the epic nature of his breakdown in the original game. Just a few head desks and some foaming at the mouth, which was shamelessly stolen from Frank Sahwit.

Daryan's Hair
Ace Attorney Online
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Search ~ Core 2002
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
The Herlock Sholmes Name Change
Turnabout Time Traveler (6-6)
Eureka!
Nahyuta Sahdmadhi
Great Ace Attorney Character Designs
Original Concept Art
Gourd Lake
Clay Terran

The Broken Clock in 5-3 - The church I've attended for the past 6 and a half years has a big clock on the back wall. It has never worked in the entire time I've been here because it's a pain to get it down off the wall, and chandeliers block your view of it unless you're right in front of it, so no one has ever bothered to change the batteries. All that to say, sometimes a broken clock just stays broken because no one can be bothered to fix it.

No Game No Life Cornered Remix
Raiten Menimemo
Forensic Science
Apollo's Backstories
Juniper Woods
Phoenix Eating the Bottle of Poison
The Guitar's Serenade
Wesley Stickler
Shouting "Objection!" into the system's mic
Logic Chess
Angel Starr
Great Ace Attorney 2 Reusing Music
Phoenix/Edgeworth Ship
Ryuichi Naruhodo
The Blue Badger
Showing Vital Evidence to the Prime Suspect
Apollo and Trucy Still Not Knowing They're Siblings
Taka
Venus
Great Ace Attorney Being Stingy with the Pursuit Theme
Ace Attorney's Standards for Guilt and Innocence
2-3's Murder Physics
Extraterritorial Rights
Lamiroir
Northward: Turnabout Express (Ace Attorney Anime Season 2)
No Ace Attorney in Smash Ultimate
The Adventure of the Unbreakable Speckled Band (G1-2)
Music Not Stopping When You Present Evidence
Olga Orly
Darklaw's Age
Sad Monk
Proto Badger

You look like I did after I mistakenly took a swig of Worcestershire sauce.

Florent L'Belle
Mack Rell
Ema Skye's Drawing
Great Ace Attorney Ad Campaign
Phoenix Drive
Touchscreen Mini-Games
Wocky Kitaki

Calisto Yew - Thank you for saving this one for the last update because I don't want to have to deal with people impersonating her with all the annoying laughing, similar to how Nagito fans in Danganronpa do the same thing when you rightly point out that he also sucks. Now if you were to ask me what I think about Shih-na, that'd be a different story. I think she's pretty cool.

The Amazing Mr. Hat
Turnabout Serenade (4-3)
Phoenix Using Forged Evidence and Getting Disbarred
Mike Meekins

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Leonhart4
01/01/22 7:27:06 PM
#492:


Anyway, Happy New Year, everybody! Thanks for following along with this topic. It was fun.

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Team Rocket Elite
01/01/22 7:33:24 PM
#493:


Thanks for doing the topic!

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01/01/22 7:34:43 PM
#494:


Thanks for the topic, Leon.

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Crescent-Moon
01/01/22 7:57:11 PM
#495:


And now for my Master Plan of shameless copying this topic and making my own

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Paratroopa1
01/01/22 8:00:31 PM
#496:


Fun topic!
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