Poll of the Day > Geee... I wonder why there's a labour shortage...

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https://youtu.be/MiPo5_BdQHY

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the rise of r/antiwork is suspicious to me. never seen a sub take off like that so suddenly . a lot of the stories seem really fake

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

the rise of r/antiwork is suspicious to me. never seen a sub take off like that so suddenly . a lot of the stories seem really fake

Are you new to the internet?

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I don't understand it either. Been employed at my current job for almost 4 years now.

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People have learned that the american taxpayers are suckers who will freely support you so long as you just take from them without asking. And they are right. It is pretty dope.

Just seeing the thumbnail of that video is enough for me to roll my eyes go "fake" and not wanna click it.

There isn't a labor shortage. There's an abundance of entitled people not willing to work because of covid checks.

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If you can make more money by not working than working, then maybe employers need to step up their game

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SunWuKung420 posted...

There isn't a labor shortage. There's an abundance of entitled people not willing to work because of covid checks.

It's really telling about the state of wages in America when the $1000 stimulus checks every 6 months is more money than working a job.

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Zareth posted...

If you can make more money by not working than working, then maybe employers need to step up their game

Employers are dealing with being shut down, supply chain shortages, increased cost of goods, workforce shortages and lazy employees. But yea, pay is the problem. FYI, it's not. It's terrible implementations by the government.

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papercup posted...

It's really telling about the state of wages in America when the $1000 stimulus checks every 6 months is more money than working a job.

It's because they don't have to leave their house and can collect welfare paid for by those going to work. You do know that unemployment checks became almost infinite during covid, right?

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So offer more money than welfare pays out? Why are you so adverse to paying people for their work Sunny?

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papercup posted...

So offer more money than welfare pays out? Why are you so adverse to paying people for their work Sunny?

I'm not. But people are either not even showing up or think they can just stand there. Why work at all when the government will give you just enough to bum around while those that know an economy needs actual workers and not moochers to function?

Pay is not the issue dude. It's laziness and ignorance.

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Essential workers (the ones who get paid the least) are not gonna be able to collect unemployment because they never had to leave their jobs/never got fired because they were needed. If you leave your job you can't collect unemployment.

Plus the checks were what, 1200 + 600 + 1400 = 3200 for 1 person. 21 months of Pandemic since March 2020, that averages 152~ish a month...that's nothing...if you have dependents sure it's higher but then again...people cost money to feed and have other needs occasionally.

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Sunny this isn't communist russia, you have to pay people for their work.

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papercup posted...

Sunny this isn't communist russia, you have to pay people for their work.

He might be in Russia who knows.

papercup posted...

Sunny this isn't communist russia, you have to pay people for their work.

Have fun with your ration card.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Have fun with your ration card.

For the glory of Arstotzka!

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Have fun with your ration card.

I'm very confused where you live where we have ration cards.

papercup posted...

So offer more money than welfare pays out? Why are you so adverse to paying people for their work Sunny?

I think the idea is that a lot of people will gladly sit at home if they have just enough to survive as opposed to actually working a job that would net them a fair amount more income. Not everyone is like that but some folks are

shadowsword87 posted...

I'm very confused where you live where we have ration cards.

That's the future.

Also, he erroneously believes they make more staying home. They don't, they make just enough to not be homeless and not starving but they aren't getting ahead or contributing to society. The more they drain, the more they'll be forced to things like ration cards since there aren't enough goods because they didn't work.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

That's the future.

Also, he erroneously believes they make more staying home. They don't, they make just enough to not be homeless and not starving but they aren't getting ahead or contributing to society. The more they drain, the more they'll be forced to things like ration cards since there aren't enough goods because they didn't work.

Ah, all right, where are you getting the idea that we aren't producing enough food to survive?

And, do you think that everyone who isn't directly related to food production someone not "contributing to society"?

Sunny if you don't pay people, they can't buy food and they die.

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shadowsword87 posted...

Ah, all right, where are you getting the idea that we aren't producing enough food to survive?

SunWuKung420 posted...

supply chain shortages

SunWuKung420 posted...

increased cost of goods

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Farmers rise up!

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i like how sunny isn't even pretending he's a zen chill hippy guy anymore and he's just gone mask-off conservative

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I'm not surprised. Employee's in America get treated like garbage constantly. Management frequently belittles them and acts abusively towards them, customers mock and belittle them while hiding behind 'the customer is always right', and things like long work hours, miserable conditions, and soul-sucking office cubicles are so 'normal' we are surprised when a job DOESN'T do that. All for pay that never seems to be enough and you're saddled with massive amounts of bills, debt, and struggle to afford a car and rent (nevermind owning a house) while the upper management (who frequently just make life more difficult) seem to make off like bandits.

No wonder no one wants to work anymore. If you're gonna drown in debt and be unable to live a decent life may as well relax and get what little joy you can instead of working miserably only to stave it off a bit.

Universal basic income.

Fight me.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

the rise of r/antiwork is suspicious to me. never seen a sub take off like that so suddenly . a lot of the stories seem really fake

It's very inorganic and the sub is plagued by obviously fake shit. It's ripe for upvote farming.

That being said, working conditions in the US do need to improve but won't.

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Lol Ive done worse so many times because management is shitty. At least one of them has failed and shut down entirely. I dont find it hard to understand why at all.

OhhhJa posted...

I think the idea is that a lot of people will gladly sit at home if they have just enough to survive as opposed to actually working a job that would net them a fair amount more income. Not everyone is like that but some folks are

If I made triple what income assistance paid, I would definitely work. If I made only double what it paid, I would just take the loss if it was feasible to do and ride it out. Not going to bust my bag for only double what I can get for doing nothing.

Unbridled9 posted...

I'm not surprised. Employee's (everywhere) get treated like garbage constantly. Management frequently belittles them and acts abusively towards them, customers mock and belittle them while hiding behind 'the customer is always right', and things like long work hours, miserable conditions, and soul-sucking office cubicles are so 'normal' we are surprised when a job DOESN'T do that. All for pay that never seems to be enough and you're saddled with massive amounts of bills, debt, and struggle to afford a car and rent (nevermind owning a house) while the upper management (who frequently just make life more difficult) seem to make off like bandits.

No wonder no one wants to work anymore. If you're gonna drown in debt and be unable to live a decent life may as well relax and get what little joy you can instead of working miserably only to stave it off a bit.

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So you think there is a labor shortage because of...

*checks notes*

...reddit?

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Kanatteru posted...

i like how sunny isn't even pretending he's a zen chill hippy guy anymore and he's just gone mask-off conservative

Even a commune can't function filled with people unwilling to work for theIr livelihood. This applies to all societies. Moochers drag everybody down.

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Thanks reddit

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Employers are dealing with being shut down, supply chain shortages, increased cost of goods, workforce shortages and lazy employees.

That's nice, but they should still step up their game. If a business can't pay its employees enough to live comfortably, why should that business get to exist? The entitlement of business owners who want to get away with paying a sub-living wage or doing nothing to make working their more pleasant for their employees is disgusting. Stop expecting people to be thankful for whatever garbage you offer them and start genuinely competing.

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11110111011 posted...

Reported.

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adjl posted...

make working their more pleasant for their employees

Yer slippin brosef

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Even a commune can't function filled with people unwilling to work for theIr livelihood. This applies to all societies. Moochers drag everybody down.

Look that might be all well and good in hippie-dippie commyland, but here, in AMERICA, people expect to get paid.

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Sarcasthma posted...

Reported.

Warned.

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You're safe now, Lok.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Yer slippin brosef

Dammit. I need to go back to bed.

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Kanatteru posted...

i like how sunny isn't even pretending he's a zen chill hippy guy anymore and he's just gone mask-off conservative

Not trying to defend sunny, but why can't you be zen and believe in personal responsibility?

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Kimbos_Egg posted...

Are you new to the internet?

yeah

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Rasmoh posted...

It's very inorganic and the sub is plagued by obviously fake shit. It's ripe for upvote farming.

That being said, working conditions in the US do need to improve but won't.

exactly. the sub is extremely inorganic but i mostly agree with the sentiment

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Zedonra posted...

Plus the checks were what, 1200 + 600 + 1400 = 3200 for 1 person. 21 months of Pandemic since March 2020, that averages 152~ish a month...that's nothing...if you have dependents sure it's higher but then again...people cost money to feed and have other needs occasionally.

Look sonny thats plenty, you just need to budget

Rent: 40
Food: 30
Utilities: idk I'll need to check with my mom
No avocado toast: +additional 20 in budget
Savings: the rest

This is what bill gates and Elon Musk and Caligula did, you just need to step it up

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The whole "businesses aren't paying people a livable wage so it's ok if they mooch" is a complete fallacy. Businesses do pay livable wages to employees that earn it. But now that governments were paying people to stay home, they've lost the motivation to work for their living.

Society is in for a rude awakening once the workforce gets fed up subsidizing those unwilling to work for a living.

Stop expecting handouts. You must participate in society to be a part of it. Living off of other people, like a leech or a virus, are cancers that destroy society.

BEERandWEED posted...

The whole "businesses aren't paying people a livable wage so it's ok if they mooch" is a complete fallacy. Businesses do pay livable wages to employees that earn it. But now that governments were paying people to stay home, they've lost the motivation to work for their living.

Society is in for a rude awakening once the workforce gets fed up subsidizing those unwilling to work for a living.

Stop expecting handouts. You must participate in society to be a part of it. Living off of other people, like a leech or a virus, are cancers that destroy society.

Walmart literally pays their employees so little that they are openly told to get food stamps.

The workforce is subsidizing businesses who won't pay a living wage, and have been for decades.

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BEERandWEED posted...

The whole "businesses aren't paying people a livable wage so it's ok if they mooch" is a complete fallacy. Businesses do pay livable wages to employees that earn it. But now that governments were paying people to stay home, they've lost the motivation to work for their living.

Society is in for a rude awakening once the workforce gets fed up subsidizing those unwilling to work for a living.

Stop expecting handouts. You must participate in society to be a part of it. Living off of other people, like a leech or a virus, are cancers that destroy society.

We will NOT have communism in America. Not on my watch. If you want a workforce you need to pay them. Stop endorsing communism, it won't work. Pay. Your. Workers.

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BEERandWEED posted...

The whole "businesses aren't paying people a livable wage so it's ok if they mooch" is a complete fallacy. Businesses do pay livable wages to employees that earn it. But now that governments were paying people to stay home, they've lost the motivation to work for their living.

Cant tell if serious or pretending to be dumb in order to troll..


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Blightzkrieg posted...

Walmart literally pays their employees so little that they are openly told to get food stamps.

The workforce is subsidizing businesses who won't pay a living wage, and have been for decades.

Walmart is a plague on society. Don't shop there.