Board 8 > FFXIV Topic 9 -- To The End(Walker)

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Shadow Dino
12/01/21 12:47:17 PM
#451:


So random fun fact about that Gaia history -

There's some circumstantial evidence that says Mitron was originally female. In addition to their true name being Artemis, there is also the fact that someone tied the voices from the crystals to their speaker and the Mitron voice was female in tone.

Combine that with Loghrif not recognizing Mitron during their reunion and you could make the case that Mitron has always been the old girlfriend, if you so choose

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JonThePenguin
12/01/21 12:49:48 PM
#452:


Final logout completed, including dealing with all my belts and lowering quality of all the HQ gatherables I had up for sale.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/21 12:49:58 PM
#453:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Also did Eden's Promise. This was nice, but I'm not sure how excited I was about giving Gaia an old boyfriend...

You and everyone else.

They have us the giant gay pride crystal and everything. We'll just go with bi and cross our finger.

Pag is great, other than the ugly gear. Always what I hoped for in expert roulette instead of Matoya's.

If you have time today the you should be able to clean everything up easy. 5.5 is pretty damn short, and contains no gameplay other than the final duty sequence.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/21 12:51:22 PM
#454:


JonThePenguin posted...
Final logout completed, including dealing with all my belts and lowering quality of all the HQ gatherables I had up for sale.

Forgot all about this! Thankfully I don't have any, basically everything I have on the Market Board is the quest reward for slamming 5 Crafting questlines from 1 to 70 in 2 days.

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 12:59:23 PM
#455:


what's up with HQ gatherables? I have been kind of blacked out on changes.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/21 1:00:01 PM
#456:


Going away entirely. Only the crafted items themselves can be HQ, not materials.

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HeroDelTiempo17
12/01/21 1:00:21 PM
#457:


Shadow Dino posted...
So random fun fact about that Gaia history -

There's some circumstantial evidence that says Mitron was originally female. In addition to their true name being Artemis, there is also the fact that someone tied the voices from the crystals to their speaker and the Mitron voice was female in tone.

Combine that with Loghrif not recognizing Mitron during their reunion and you could make the case that Mitron has always been the old girlfriend, if you so choose

Yep. And using this as a springboard I'll elaborate on my shitpost

In other languages, Ultimecia is usually translated to Artemisia, from Artemis. The E12 boss is based on a real-world statue of Artemis. Taken all together, it seems pretty likely that this Ascian is meant to be a very uniquely FF14 parallel to Ultimecia. The only thing out of place is that E12S gives The Extreme to Gaia instead, but Savage isn't canon.

Kinda big brain stuff but I honestly don't see it as much of a reach. There's too much going on here.

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 1:00:27 PM
#458:


what about stuff like leather?

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JonThePenguin
12/01/21 1:00:41 PM
#459:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
what's up with HQ gatherables? I have been kind of blacked out on changes.
Not going to exist anymore.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/0df80cf3ca68d60920c7f3a36acbd42e09f6f565

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/21 1:01:26 PM
#460:


If you can craft it it can still be HQ, so yes on leather. If you have to gather it then no.

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 1:01:49 PM
#461:


Oh I see. I make a killing selling HQ leather throughout any given week, so no panic here.

My gameplay loop is basically random fun mining/leatherworking. I think in EW I am going to try to actually raid and do group content but this has been my coping game for this year following a rough year and I wanted 0% stress.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/21 1:13:53 PM
#462:


Oh, BTW make sure you log out in an instanced area.

I'm sitting in the Ul'dah Grand Company barracks myself to beeline for Reaper.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/21 1:20:14 PM
#463:


Oh, right, and what the controller input to select the nearest NPC when they're swamped with players?

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/21 1:30:06 PM
#464:


Reading notes again...role quest prediction.

Tank is with Kan-E
Melee is with Merly
Ranged Phys is with Hien
Magic is with Aymeric
Healer is with Raubahn

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ZaziGuado
12/01/21 1:39:28 PM
#465:


If I haven't bought Endwalker yet, am I still going to get the Shadowbringers menu music? I've gotten quite sentimental about HOOOOOOOOOOME RIIIIDIIIIIIING HOOOOOOOOOOME despite knowing nothing of the context yet.

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 1:40:56 PM
#466:


ZaziGuado posted...
If I haven't bought Endwalker yet, am I still going to get the Shadowbringers menu music? I've gotten quite sentimental about HOOOOOOOOOOME RIIIIDIIIIIIING HOOOOOOOOOOME despite knowing nothing of the context yet.

You can choose your login screen manually.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/21 1:41:19 PM
#467:


You would keep Shadowbringers until buying. You can also change it to Shadowbringers again by selecting the Shadowbringers title after buying Endwalker, but it will reset back to Endwalker if you completely close the game out. I think there's a mod on PC to keep it locked, though.

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tcaz2
12/01/21 1:57:38 PM
#468:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Reading notes again...role quest prediction.

Tank is with Kan-E
Melee is with Merly
Ranged Phys is with Hien
Magic is with Aymeric
Healer is with Raubahn

I thought we already knew these? Pretty sure it was confirmed in a Japanese interview.

If so, you're right except that Healer is Lyse. Ul'dah isn't included (though might be involved in some kind of wrap up quests once you do them all like Shadowbringers had).
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ZaziGuado
12/01/21 2:00:33 PM
#469:


Oh I guess that's what the Movies and Title option is that I've never clicked. Makes sense.

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WhiteLens
12/01/21 2:02:58 PM
#470:


Hmmmaybe I should hold off on the Alliance Raids until after maintenance after all, so I can take in any new changes they have.

And to not waste any exp that would certainly be going to my White Mage.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/21 2:04:16 PM
#471:


tcaz2 posted...


If so, you're right except that Healer is Lyse. Ul'dah isn't included (though might be involved in some kind of wrap up quests once you do them all like Shadowbringers had).

Isn't he in Ala Mhigo now, too?

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Shadow Dino
12/01/21 2:41:47 PM
#472:


Raubahn is pretty much Ala Mhigo now. However in some respects his story arc concluded with 4.1, so I think he will likely be a background / support character for the Healer Role Quest.

Judging by the Tales from the Twilight chapter, I imagine the main characters for the Healer role quest will be Lyse and Fordola.

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HeroDelTiempo17
12/01/21 2:49:35 PM
#473:


Extremely mad I have to hang out with Hien. Fuck that guy and fuck Doma.

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 2:51:38 PM
#474:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Extremely mad I have to hang out with Hien. Fuck that guy and fuck Doma.

Tell me you're a piece of shit without saying you're a piece of shit.


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tcaz2
12/01/21 3:03:58 PM
#475:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Tell me you're a piece of shit without saying you're a piece of shit.
This

Hien good. Yugiri great.
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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/21 3:04:59 PM
#476:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Extremely mad I have to hang out with Hien. Fuck that guy and fuck Doma.

Bruh

Although I'm going to being chilling with Aymeric so can't say I didn't win that raffle.

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 3:06:12 PM
#477:


rip tanks and healers imo

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Xiahou Shake
12/01/21 3:09:45 PM
#478:


Giving the role quests to the leaders is great considering how sidelined anyone not named Raubahn has been since HW. Summit with the emperor aside, that was great for all of them. Excited to hang out with the Admiral, but now extremely glad RDM is my highest leveled non-melee job cause hoo boy does an Aymeric questline sound fantastic.

(Also wtf Hien hate, how?)

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HeroDelTiempo17
12/01/21 3:17:54 PM
#479:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Tell me you're a piece of shit without saying you're a piece of shit.

Hien's the incompetent ruler who ran away from his problems, was still a bad ruler after allegedly going through an arc about it, can't lock a door, and still has the audacity to think he can personally unite all of Othard under Doma!

Yugiri is fine, she can just do way better. Depose Hien and have her and Gosetsu run the place.

I have no clue what people like about this guy! Personality wise he's bland as hell.

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 3:20:43 PM
#480:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Hien's the incompetent ruler who ran away from his problems, was still a bad ruler after allegedly going through an arc about it, can't lock a door, and still has the audacity to think he can personally unite all of Othard under Doma!

Yugiri is fine, she can just do way better. Depose Hien and have her and Gosetsu run the place.

I have no clue what people like about this guy! Personality wise he's bland as hell.

Hien is the man in his early twenties who has been through a lot.

I like Hien because he is earnest, humble, and quite funny when given the opportunity.

Of the major faction leaders I think only Aymeric is better in terms of not being an idiot by your standards.

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Dels
12/01/21 3:29:18 PM
#481:


would anyone like to know my opinion on hien
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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 3:30:39 PM
#482:


Oh God yes

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Dels
12/01/21 3:31:13 PM
#483:


oh.

well i don't particularly have one.

i'm not really into the character archtype. he's alright though.
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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 3:32:23 PM
#484:


I am always willing to discuss anything with you Dels, even if you are horribly wrong...!

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HeroDelTiempo17
12/01/21 3:34:04 PM
#485:


DoomTheGyarados posted...


Of the major faction leaders I think only Aymeric is better in terms of not being an idiot by your standards.

I mean, yes and no. The faction leaders mostly suck! That's a big part of the game.

I like Nanamo a lot but she's painfully naive and inadequate as a ruler and lets an evil capitalist syndicate actually rule UlDah. Her thing about deposing them to implement democracy unfortunately never went anywhere IIRC.

Kan-E-Senna is a joke. Just kind of boring as a character, plus has to serve the will of the Elementals, and those guys DEFINITELY suck.

Merlwyb was awful for most of the game. There is this whole thing with Yshtola calling her out for being a greedy racist pirate lord who antagonizes the beast tribes for wealth, and Limsa itself is kind of a crime-ridden hellhole. She gets a redemption arc, which is good! But it's the game explicitly acknowledging she sucked ass for a long time so I don't think this is a hot take.

Aymeric, Lyse, Raubahn, the Crystal Exarch, and the motherfucking based as hell eglitarian communist utopian gobbies in Idylshire are all fine to great! No problems with them.

Hien is actually unique in that he sucks but the story doesn't draw attention to it. All of his battles are won by getting other people (like the Xaela tribes) to fight for him. That's an interesting angle, but the story really wants us to think Hien himself is cool and he just isn't.

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Mac Arrowny
12/01/21 3:35:47 PM
#486:


Hien's pretty boring, just like most of the Doma cast.
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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 3:36:06 PM
#487:


I believe she eventually decided to work within the system rather than to overthrow it, I think that was a plotline in 4.1 or maybe that's my fanfiction.

Kan-E-ZZZ

Hien got those allies through merit and also WoL OP

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HeroDelTiempo17
12/01/21 3:45:46 PM
#488:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hien got those allies through merit and also WoL OP

I know that most of the story is people getting the WoL to do things for them and that's ok, but unlike others I really feel like Hien doesn't earn it.

I mean, even with winning over the Xaela we were the ones doing all the work!

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 3:48:29 PM
#489:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
I know that most of the story is people getting the WoL to do things for them and that's ok, but unlike others I really feel like Hien doesn't earn it.

I mean, even with winning over the Xaela we were the ones doing all the work!

He was with you more than any other character has been wth lol

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HeroDelTiempo17
12/01/21 3:56:38 PM
#490:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
He was with you more than any other character has been wth lol

Alphinaud, Estinien, and Ysale did not trudge with you through five zones to end a thousand year war for you to disrespect them like this.

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 3:57:35 PM
#491:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Alphinaud, Estinien, and Ysale did not trudge with you through five zones to end a thousand year war for you to disrespect them like this.

Scions do not count obviously <_<

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 3:58:41 PM
#492:


Also I play the hell out of final fantasy record keeper and Ysayle is my best ice magic user, she is dropping death on everything and I love her for it.

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HeroDelTiempo17
12/01/21 3:59:19 PM
#493:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Scions do not count obviously <_<

Estinien and Ysale weren't Scions!

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 3:59:49 PM
#494:


You can't even spell her name right PUT SOME RESPECT ON THAT NAME

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HeroDelTiempo17
12/01/21 4:03:12 PM
#495:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
You can't even spell her name right PUT SOME RESPECT ON THAT NAME

Maybe if the writers weren't obsessed with killing off their coolest female characters I'd be able to remember how!

Yeah. I WILL die mad about Moenbryda.

Edit: fair point

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 4:04:01 PM
#496:


Hero, we may have sprouts still. Mark dem spoilers

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CoolCly
12/01/21 4:26:00 PM
#497:


Why would you need to lower the quality of your HQ items? Is it converting gathering materials to normal or removing them entirely?

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DoomTheGyarados
12/01/21 4:33:09 PM
#498:


CoolCly posted...
Why would you need to lower the quality of your HQ items? Is it converting gathering materials to normal or removing them entirely?

It's not auto doing it, so it just saves time to do it now rather than wasting time after EW

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JonThePenguin
12/01/21 7:28:05 PM
#499:


The Final Days are upon us.

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JonThePenguin
12/01/21 7:28:12 PM
#500:


Heart of ember, autumntide
Cooling swiftly, bleeding light
Smold'ring softly, biding time
Marching forward, left behind
Fire as shadows clash
Forgotten footfalls engraved in ash
Fire will be repaid
'Fore our echoes begin to fade
Fade away... Fade away...
Heart of ember, autumntide
Burning brightly, hot and white
Kindred severed neverwhere
Sorrow's silence, we needn't bear
Stories sown along the way
Tales of loss and fire and faith
Dys an sohm in [Our slumber disturbed]
Rohs an kyn ala na [All my brothers wake]
Mah morn [Death comes]
Dys an sohm in [Our slumber disturbed]
Sahl djahs afah an [Vengeance will be ours]
Storm of blood, born from blood, of our fallen brothers
Thunder stilled, oaths fulfilled, now we yearn for freedom
Born in blood (still we forge ahead), stained in red (unto tomorrow)
Bound by love (so we forge ahead), purpose fed (unto tomorrow, bring us tomorrow)
Courage thrives (ever forge ahead), hand in hand (unto tomorrow, welcome tomorrow)
Souls aligned (that we forge ahead), forge ahead (yeah, we forge ahead, yeah, we forge ahead)
Forward
Our song of hope, she dances on the wind higher, oh higher
E'er our vows endure, and remain forever strong
Standing tall in the dark do we carry on
On wings of hope, you rise up through the night higher, oh higher
Carrying our song, cradled fast within your arms
That its chorus might ring for all
One brings shadow, one brings light
Two-toned echoes tumbling through time
Tumbling down to the never
Every step we take
Echoes in our wake
Winding 'round our fate
To forge ahead
Should we lose our way
Tire of all this pain
We won't be afraid
To forge ahead
Fearless hearts ablaze
(When the world comes crumbling down)
No more time to waste
(Know I'll be there)
No, it's not too late
(Though our fleeting moment has gone)
To forge ahead
(You're not--you're not alone YEAH)
As we ride again
(As you turn your eyes to the stars)
To another end
(Oh, I'll be there)
Where it all begins
(With my chorus guiding you)
Forge ahead
(Forge ahead)

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