Board 8 > Alec Baldwin accidentally kills crewmember on set of movie with prop gun

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most_games_r_ok
10/26/21 6:33:45 PM
#101:


AxemRedRanger posted...
"Wow, 48 new posts in the Alec Baldwin topic just since earlier today, must have been some new bombshell revelation, wonder what-...oh."
I wish I read none of the post after MJ was mentioned.

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Lopen
10/26/21 6:40:18 PM
#102:


And people think I'm bad how did this topic go this way

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ChaosTonyV4
10/26/21 6:49:25 PM
#103:


Good topic

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Paratroopa1
10/26/21 6:54:40 PM
#104:


what in god's name
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FFDragon
10/26/21 7:42:55 PM
#105:


Inject this topic directly into my veins and don't stop until I'm dead.

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KamikazePotato
10/26/21 7:52:41 PM
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red13n
10/26/21 8:08:12 PM
#107:


The weird thing is there have been plenty of revelations about how horrible this Alec Baldwin incident had been to conceivably make all these posts. So its conceivable many people had no idea there was some weird crap going on here.

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pjbasis
10/26/21 11:04:45 PM
#108:


UItimaterializer posted...
Why the hell did you people make me read this


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redrocket
10/27/21 11:01:36 AM
#110:


Press conference in one hour.

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Crescent-Moon
10/27/21 12:40:18 PM
#111:


I probably shouldn't be reading page 2 huh...

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firefdr
10/27/21 6:41:39 PM
#112:


but is MJ actually MJ???
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Dels
10/27/21 6:43:59 PM
#113:


isn't this like those headlines that were like "this black woman is the next james bond!"

and then it was like "well her name's not james bond she's a side character but they're gonna give her the code number 007"
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StealThisSheen
10/27/21 6:47:40 PM
#114:


Dels posted...
isn't this like those headlines that were like "this black woman is the next james bond!"

and then it was like "well her name's not james bond she's a side character but they're gonna give her the code number 007"

No because this MJ is the only MJ and replaces the other MJ.

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Kenri
10/27/21 7:17:23 PM
#115:


If she's meant to be the exact same character as Mary Jane why not just keep that name? "Michelle Jones" strikes me as a pretty obvious way of hedging your bets, so if the audience reacts poorly you can bring in the "real" Mary Jane later. Regardless of the weird way this argument went I'm pretty sympathetic to Lasa's original position (and I agree with Dels' last post too; this style of headline is super common and very, very tabloidy)

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/27/21 7:21:46 PM
#116:


Kenri posted...
If she's meant to be the exact same character as Mary Jane why not just keep that name? "Michelle Jones" strikes me as a pretty obvious way of hedging your bets, so if the audience reacts poorly you can bring in the "real" Mary Jane later. Regardless of the weird way this argument went I'm pretty sympathetic to Lasa's original position (and I agree with Dels' last post too; this style of headline is super common and very, very tabloidy)
Because it's the MCU and they didn't want you to think it was Mary Jane because otherwise you'd know immediately she would be Peter's love interest, hence why they swerved it at the end to get people excited.

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StealThisSheen
10/27/21 7:38:36 PM
#117:


Kenri posted...
If she's meant to be the exact same character as Mary Jane why not just keep that name? "Michelle Jones" strikes me as a pretty obvious way of hedging your bets, so if the audience reacts poorly you can bring in the "real" Mary Jane later. Regardless of the weird way this argument went I'm pretty sympathetic to Lasa's original position (and I agree with Dels' last post too; this style of headline is super common and very, very tabloidy)

Eh, if they were hedging their bets, they wouldn't have had her go by "MJ," since now you can't have another "MJ" without killing one off. Like Biscuit said, I think they just did it because it's the MCU and they want to try to be clever about everything.

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Team Rocket Elite
10/27/21 7:45:35 PM
#118:


redrocket posted...
Press conference in one hour.


How did this go?
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Underleveled
10/27/21 7:45:59 PM
#119:


Why are we even still talking about this

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redrocket
10/27/21 7:50:11 PM
#120:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
How did this go?

No major revelations. DA says criminal charges are on the table depending on what the investigation turns up. The AD who handed Baldwin the gun admitted that he had not checked it thoroughly.

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Kenri
10/27/21 8:01:25 PM
#121:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Because it's the MCU and they didn't want you to think it was Mary Jane because otherwise you'd know immediately she would be Peter's love interest, hence why they swerved it at the end to get people excited.
But it was revealed beforehand anyway? I dunno, I guess if this was legitimately the reason then that's reasonable, but I'm not convinced it would look any different if they were doing it for completely cynical reasons.

StealThisSheen posted...
Eh, if they were hedging their bets, they wouldn't have had her go by "MJ," since now you can't have another "MJ" without killing one off. Like Biscuit said, I think they just did it because it's the MCU and they want to try to be clever about everything.
Sure they can, just have a random one-liner about it and it's fine. You can get away with two characters coincidentally having the same nickname in a way that you can't get away with two characters coincidentally having the exact same full name.

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StealThisSheen
10/27/21 8:56:20 PM
#122:


Kenri posted...
But it was revealed beforehand anyway? I dunno, I guess if this was legitimately the reason then that's reasonable, but I'm not convinced it would look any different if they were doing it for completely cynical reasons.

Not officially, which is why they go the whole movie without saying her full name until the "Call me MJ" bit at the end.

Kenri posted...
Sure they can, just have a random one-liner about it and it's fine. You can get away with two characters coincidentally having the same nickname in a way that you can't get away with two characters coincidentally having the exact same full name.

Nah, not in this case. "MJ" is so ingrained as Peter's love interest that it doesn't work, unless the point is that he's picking between them as said love interest, but in comics/comic movies, that usually results in one dying or turning evil, anyway, which doesn't seem appropriate here. Them specifically having her go by MJ was an intentional act to show she was filling that role.

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Tom Bombadil
10/27/21 9:17:48 PM
#123:


redrocket posted...
No major revelations. DA says criminal charges are on the table depending on what the investigation turns up. The AD who handed Baldwin the gun admitted that he had not checked it thoroughly.

what were their thoughts on zendaya

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GildedFool
10/27/21 11:58:47 PM
#124:


StealThisSheen posted...
No because this MJ is the only MJ and replaces the other MJ.
Ok, but when does she moonwalk?

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MZero
10/28/21 12:27:31 AM
#125:


They can call her MJ all they want but until she drops 60+ on the 86 Celtics she's not really MJ

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ChaosTonyV4
10/29/21 3:36:00 AM
#126:


Some actual new info:

https://twitter.com/debdrens/status/1453677795482161156?s=21

Wow

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/29/21 11:21:47 AM
#127:


Yeah, this just seems like a complete failure to follow protocol from every direction. I heard that Alec Baldwin was firing when he wasn't supposed to as well, but I can't find a source for that.

But regardless, this is all complete insanity and everyone up the chain should be held accountable, not just the absolute incompetent they hired.

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/29/21 11:30:55 AM
#128:


Another good, relevant post:

https://twitter.com/Cpt_J_Yossarian/status/1453780556919885827?s=20

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