Board 8 > Alec Baldwin accidentally kills crewmember on set of movie with prop gun

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 3:13:35 PM
#51:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Direct me to the comic where Taskmaster was a female brainwashed fighter.

Direct me to the comic where Ghost is a nervous black girl.

Direct me to the comic where Vulture is some kind of scavenger in an interracial relationship and the father of Liz.

Dude what are you even doing. lol

do all of those characters also have different names in the movies?

(lol @ michelle jones being an only "slightly" different name than mary jane watson btw)

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 3:16:19 PM
#52:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
(lol @ michelle jones being an only "slightly" different name than mary jane watson btw)

They. Literally. Call. Her. MJ.

Also didnt the movies turn Heimdall black, too.

Edit: That said, I see you are moving the goalposts now.

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Leonhart4
10/26/21 3:16:33 PM
#53:


Nobody knew what her real name was ahead of time. She was just known as MJ leading up to the movie. I'm not sure we even learn her full name in Homecoming. They were probably jumping to conclusions but it's not a stretch to assume a character called MJ is Mary Jane.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 3:19:06 PM
#54:


HashtagSEP posted...
Edit: That said, I see you are moving the goalposts now.

how?

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 3:20:29 PM
#55:


Leonhart4 posted...
They were probably jumping to conclusions

better watch out, SEP might accuse you of making one of the dumbest arguments in the history of mankind


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ChaosTonyV4
10/26/21 3:20:52 PM
#56:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
direct me to the comic where mary jane was a daria-ish black girl and then apologize to me after you can't find it.

This is the funniest post Ive seen in awhile, 10/10

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 3:21:50 PM
#57:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
This is the funniest post Ive seen in awhile, 10/10

not as funny as you saying michelle jones is the exact same character as mary jane watson, though

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 3:22:59 PM
#58:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
how?

You tried to pull a gotcha by asking us to point out where Mary Jane had ever been black. We pointed out several instances where theyve changed the race or gender of an established character. You then tried to change the argument to Well it doesnt count because different name.

But to answer your question on the names, yes. Taskmaster went from Tony Masters to Antonia something or other, for one example.


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ChaosTonyV4
10/26/21 3:23:36 PM
#59:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
not as funny as you saying michelle jones is the exact same character as mary jane watson, though

https://www.thewrap.com/stan-lee-zendaya-spider-man-mary-jane/amp/

Wow I cant believe tabloid rag Stan Lee would get this so wrong, and its even more fucked up the way he points out subtle changes from comic to screen are normal and expected, god what a hack

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 3:24:05 PM
#60:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
better watch out, SEP might accuse you of making one of the dumbest arguments in the history of mankind

You realize hes not actually agreeing with you, right?

Hes saying its a logical conclusion, while youre trying to use it to say they arent at all credible.

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Leonhart4
10/26/21 3:24:10 PM
#61:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
better watch out, SEP might accuse you of making one of the dumbest arguments in the history of mankind

I am not on your side in this argument

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charmander6000
10/26/21 3:26:00 PM
#62:


WTF is this discussion?

Like if they were wrong here like they were wrong about MJ then the truth would be that they shot at bottles instead of cans or the cans were on a wall instead of a fence.

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ChaosTonyV4
10/26/21 3:27:14 PM
#63:


Ok to add an even more funny layer to Lasa flipping out over this, the original article he complained about that said Exclusive: Zendaya is Mary Jane Watson literally says her characters name is Michelle, lol:

https://www.thewrap.com/zendaya-spider-man-homecoming-role-reveal-mary-jane-watson/amp/

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 3:29:04 PM
#64:


HashtagSEP posted...
You tried to pull a gotcha by asking us to point out where Mary Jane had ever been black. We pointed out several instances where theyve changed the race or gender of an established character. You then tried to change the argument to Well it doesnt count because different name.

But to answer your question on the names, yes. Taskmaster went from Tony Masters to Antonia something or other, for one example.
I purposefully used the first things that popped into my head of situations where the characters were barely similar to comic counterparts in terms of personality as well. There's so many. Zemo is barely the same as the comics version. He's even from Made-Up-istan.

If I went through, I could have come up with even more. But the whole thing with Spider-Man Homecoming was the whole movie they called her Michelle. And then she has a line at the end of the movie where she says "Call me MJ." WHAT DO YOU THINK THE REACTION TO THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE? Why do you think they bother to call her MJ at all? Why not just keep calling her Michelle is the point is that she's not supposed to be the Mary Jane replacement? Like bruh.

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 3:30:13 PM
#65:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://www.thewrap.com/stan-lee-zendaya-spider-man-mary-jane/amp/

Wow I cant believe tabloid rag Stan Lee would get this so wrong, and its even more fucked up the way he points out subtle changes from comic to screen are normal and expected, god what a hack

So not only does Stan Lee say shes Mary Jane, he even specifically references Kingpin being changed from white to black to point out how changes are normal.

Lasa, sounds like you owe the topic an apology!


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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 3:32:44 PM
#66:


HashtagSEP posted...
You tried to pull a gotcha by asking us to point out where Mary Jane had ever been black. We pointed out several instances where theyve changed the race or gender of an established character. You then tried to change the argument to Well it doesnt count because different name.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
...wut? first of all, the full name of zendaya's character is michelle jones.

not sure what you're blabbering about here because i literally made the "she has a different name in the movies" point back in my post responding to tony and cly. my argument was never "she's a different character in the movies just because she's black." obviously, that WOULD be an incredibly dumb argument because race swapping of characters happens all the time in movie adaptations of superhero comics (kingpin in the daredevil movie, the ancient one in doctor strange, etc).

But to answer your question on the names, yes. Taskmaster went from Tony Masters to Antonia something or other, for one example.

i don't know taskmaster that well but i assume that's two different people being a character at different points in the continuity? like norman osbourne and harry osbourne both being green goblin? that's not the same as what we're talking about here.

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Aecioo
10/26/21 3:34:05 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 3:35:10 PM
#68:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
i don't know taskmaster that well but i assume that's two different people being a character at different points in the continuity? like norman osbourne and harry osbourne both being green goblin? that's not the same as what we're talking about here.
Just take the L dude. lmao

Here's a topical meme for your efforts.



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Leonhart4
10/26/21 3:35:52 PM
#69:


The choice to call her MJ is meant to invoke Mary Jane.

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 3:36:37 PM
#70:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
not sure what you're blabbering about here because i literally made the "she has a different name in the movies" point back in my post responding to tony and cly. my argument was never "she's a different character in the movies just because she's black." obviously, that WOULD be an incredibly dumb argument because race swapping of characters happens all the time in movie adaptations of superhero comics (kingpin in the daredevil movie, the ancient one in doctor strange, etc).

i don't know taskmaster that well but i assume that's two different people being a character at different points in the continuity? like norman osbourne and harry osbourne both being green goblin? that's not the same as what we're talking about here.

No. Comic Taskmaster is a guy named Tony Masters.

Movie Taskmaster is a woman named Antonia.

It is quite literally the situation you asked for. Same character, different gender and different name.


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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 3:38:17 PM
#71:


HashtagSEP posted...
No. Comic Taskmaster is a guy named Tony Masters.

Movie Taskmaster is a woman named Antonia.

It is quite literally the situation you asked for. Same character, different gender and different name.
Not only that, the only thing those two characters have in common at all are that they can mimic certain fighting styles of their opponents. Literally nothing else is in common with them. That's why people were even upset in the first place! Because this Taskmaster was so much less cool than the comics version!

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 3:40:48 PM
#72:


HashtagSEP posted...
You realize hes not actually agreeing with you, right?

Hes saying its a logical conclusion, while youre trying to use it to say they arent at all credible.

i don't disagree that it's a logical conclusion, i'm saying that they shouldn't have confidently presented it as 100% fact. the wrap pulls this kind of shit all the time. they hear a rumor that might have some truth to it (or not, in the case of "deadpool will be in logan") and because they always want to be the source with the "hot scoops," they immediately present it as a fact instead of just addressing it as a rumor. that's why they're not very credible.

not saying they're infowars or whatever but there's much better movie news sources out there.

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 3:41:31 PM
#73:


They literally play the Call me MJ moment like a big reveal ah-ha! moment. They wanted people to have a reaction to that moment, since its the moment they reveal shes the MCUs version of Mary Jane.

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Mac Arrowny
10/26/21 3:41:44 PM
#74:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Ok to add an even more funny layer to Lasa flipping out over this, the original article he complained about that said Exclusive: Zendaya is Mary Jane Watson literally says her characters name is Michelle, lol:

https://www.thewrap.com/zendaya-spider-man-homecoming-role-reveal-mary-jane-watson/amp/

https://www.thewrap.com/stan-lee-zendaya-spider-man-mary-jane/amp/

This is great.
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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 3:43:35 PM
#75:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
i don't disagree that it's a logical conclusion, i'm saying that they shouldn't have confidently presented it as 100% fact. the wrap pulls this kind of shit all the time. they hear a rumor that might have some truth to it (or not, in the case of "deadpool will be in logan") and because they always want to be the source with the "hot scoops," they immediately present it as a fact instead of just addressing it as a rumor. that's why they're not very credible.

not saying they're infowars or whatever but there's much better movie news sources out there.

So this whole argument started because you never read the article beyond the headline? Because they do point out that the characters name is Michelle.

Regardless, they were right, as proven by the Stan Lee interview, so Take the L.

Edit: they didnt even draw the conclusion themselves. They say it was reported to them by sources close to the movie, and that the script drops hints shes MJ. You freaked out over nothing.

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Underleveled
10/26/21 3:43:41 PM
#76:


This topic took a turn

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 3:46:33 PM
#77:


Click Spoilers For Something That Will Terrify Lasa:

All news outlets get stuff wrong sometimes.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 3:49:09 PM
#78:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Ok to add an even more funny layer to Lasa flipping out over this, the original article he complained about that said Exclusive: Zendaya is Mary Jane Watson literally says her characters name is Michelle, lol:

https://www.thewrap.com/zendaya-spider-man-homecoming-role-reveal-mary-jane-watson/amp/

dude, read the fucking article. it literally says "Given how secretive superhero movie castings can sometimes be, pseudonyms are often used." they're clearly not saying "zendaya is going to be playing a character named michelle in this movie."

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Leonhart4
10/26/21 3:52:27 PM
#79:


The point is that even if she's not meant to be the same as Mary Jane exactly, it doesn't mean their info was wrong. It's a strange article to point to as proof that their info is often wrong. It just means they might have drawn the wrong conclusion from the info they received.

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 3:53:55 PM
#80:


"At least one recent draft of the script has Zendayas character dropping several clues to her identity as Mary Jane, one of the most familiar love interests in the Marvel superheros universe and played by Kirsten Dunst in Sam Raimis 2002-07 movie trilogy starring Tobey Maguire as the webslinger.

Zendaya, the star of the Disney Channel series Shake It Up! and K.C. Undercover, was cast back in March to play a key role as a character named Michelle.

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Given how secretive superhero movie castings can sometimes be, pseudonyms are often used."

dude, read the fucking article

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ChaosTonyV4
10/26/21 3:55:27 PM
#81:


Lets put it this way, I wouldnt be surprised if they specifically lampshade MJ/Mary Jane in the next movie, perhaps one of the other Spideys goes Oh you have a Mary Jane too! and then Holland Spidey goes Mary Jane?


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TomNook
10/26/21 3:56:25 PM
#82:


After reading this topic and pressing back, I completely forget it was the Alec Baldwin topic.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 3:58:58 PM
#83:


Leonhart4 posted...
It's a strange article to point to as proof that their info is often wrong. It just means they might have drawn the wrong conclusion from the info they received.

i didn't say they're bad just because their info is wrong. sometimes it is, other times they jump to wrong conclusions based on correct info they receive. both things make you less credible as a news soruce.

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/26/21 3:59:37 PM
#84:


Hey everyone move anything about Lasa not being able to read into this topic please god bless:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79729577

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:00:49 PM
#85:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
"At least one recent draft of the script has Zendayas character dropping several clues to her identity as Mary Jane, one of the most familiar love interests in the Marvel superheros universe and played by Kirsten Dunst in Sam Raimis 2002-07 movie trilogy starring Tobey Maguire as the webslinger.

Zendaya, the star of the Disney Channel series Shake It Up! and K.C. Undercover, was cast back in March to play a key role as a character named Michelle.

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Given how secretive superhero movie castings can sometimes be, pseudonyms are often used."

dude, read the fucking article

this... completely proves my point? what do you think they're trying to say with the "pseudonyms are often used" line? they're clearly saying "michelle is just a pseudonym used for the character during production, the character is going to be called mary jane in the movie." which is false, as we now know.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:01:38 PM
#86:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Hey everyone move anything about Lasa not being able to read into this topic please god bless:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79729577

fuck off

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 4:03:43 PM
#87:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
fuck off

Nah, you owe us an apology. Gonna play your game, now.

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Leonhart4
10/26/21 4:07:38 PM
#88:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
i didn't say they're bad just because their info is wrong. sometimes it is, other times they jump to wrong conclusions based on correct info they receive. both things make you less credible as a news soruce.

But if this story is the worst thing you can think of, it's not that bad.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/26/21 4:11:47 PM
#89:


Leonhart4 posted...
But if this story is the worst thing you can think of, it's not that bad.

it's not. literally said this back in post #46:

Mr Lasastryke posted...
but if you guys want a different example, the wrap also reported that deadpool was going to have a cameo in logan when the movie was in early production (thank god that never happened lol). i don't really care about that specific example, my point was that the wrap is pretty crap.

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CasanovaZelos
10/26/21 4:16:30 PM
#90:


Uhhh...shifting this back to the actual topic, CNN has mentioned the Wrap article and have been unable to confirm the report:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/26/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-tuesday/index.html

It definitely feels like more sources would have reported on this by now.

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HashtagSEP
10/26/21 4:23:04 PM
#91:


CasanovaZelos posted...
Uhhh...shifting this back to the actual topic, CNN has mentioned the Wrap article and have been unable to confirm the report:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/26/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-tuesday/index.html

It definitely feels like more sources would have reported on this by now.

On the other hand, there were two other accidental discharges of live ammunition before the fatal one, so itd explain how live ammo kept getting into the guns.

Edit: I guess those havent yet been confirmed to be live ammo incidents, but it sure sounds likely.

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KingButz
10/26/21 4:29:56 PM
#92:


There is some fucking racist gatekeeping in here
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scarletspeed7
10/26/21 4:30:16 PM
#93:


No matter whether she's MJ or not, it should be pointed out that the Ultimate Spider-Man comic did it better.

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UItimaterializer
10/26/21 4:50:46 PM
#94:


Why the hell did you people make me read this junk, though I suppose it is always nice seeing trolls shit their pants in epic meltdowns.

I can't even imagine being ridiculous enough to argue that Zendaya isn't playing MJ. That is classic terminally online addict behavior from someone who, uh.... doesn't understand social cues or norms, to put it lightly. Like holy shit, turn the computer off, go outside, and touch grass.

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WickIebee
10/26/21 5:04:57 PM
#95:


UItimaterializer posted...
and touch grass.

Excuse you, I live in Arizona, there is no grass in my neighborhood.

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AxemRedRanger
10/26/21 5:13:28 PM
#96:


"Wow, 48 new posts in the Alec Baldwin topic just since earlier today, must have been some new bombshell revelation, wonder what-...oh."

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GenesisSaga
10/26/21 6:16:33 PM
#97:


How did this discussion even derail into something completely unrelated to the topic at hand anyway?
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StealThisSheen
10/26/21 6:18:20 PM
#98:


GenesisSaga posted...
How did this discussion even derail into something completely unrelated to the topic at hand anyway?

Somebody posted an article that had to do with the topic and Lasa dismissed the source because of *Insert MJ argument here*

Which is to say they once ran an article that said Zendaya was playing Mary Jane in Spiderman Homecoming, when in reality she played a character that is MCU's version of Mary Jane with a different name, and he used that as an example for why the source shouldn't be trusted, and people balked at it.

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GenesisSaga
10/26/21 6:20:37 PM
#99:


Ah, I see I see... Man that went well beyond the typical comic book nerd rage.
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StealThisSheen
10/26/21 6:24:35 PM
#100:


Yeah, it basically started off as

"That source is crap. For example, they were wrong about X."
"...Were they, though?"
"Yes."
"But they weren't."
"Yes they were."
"They weren't, though, here's proof."
"No but they were."

And it turned into the "comic book nerd rage" argument.

It was very silly and I feel silly for taking part in it.

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