Poll of the Day > Myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination study from the CDC.

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MartianManchild 10/18/21 7:31:57 AM #1:	https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-08-30/03-COVID-Su-508.pdf Science! Im sure a lot of people will ignore this study though <cite>MartianManchild posted [p:959148891] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-08-30/03-COVID-Su-508.pdf Science! Im sure a lot of people will ignore this study though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/18/21 8:00:52 AM #2:	OK? At least I am not dead like hundreds of thousands of Republicans. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:959149291] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>OK? At least I am not dead like hundreds of thousands of Republicans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kind9 10/18/21 8:10:36 AM #3:	MartianManchild posted... Science! Oh yes, science. That thing that's always great when it agrees with you and wrong when it doesn't. --- https://imgur.com/NkZUeFd <cite>kind9 posted [p:959149423] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>MartianManchild posted... </cite> <quote>Science!</quote>Oh yes, science. That thing that's always great when it agrees with you and wrong when it doesn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 10/18/21 8:15:25 AM #4:	MartianManchild posted... Science! Im sure a lot of people will ignore this study though Seems to only affect men... so you might think that maybe there's another factor involved here such has who the hell even are the N Group?! Well, if you check the pdf (which you linked) > Focusing analysis on reports of myocarditis and myocarditis with pericarditis (myopericarditis) following COVID-19 vaccination As of August 18, 2021, total of 2,574 reports in all ages/age groups That's right, 2574 total CASES of suspected myocarditis as reported to VAERS (which doesn't mean anything)... out of, what 1 billion vaccinated? Even then, it looks like of those 2574 cases only... -tally tally tally- about 60% of those were legitimate... ...ya, the chart isn't of cases... it's of what percentage of COMPLAINTS actually were REAL --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:959149505] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>MartianManchild posted... </cite> <quote> Science! Im sure a lot of people will ignore this study though </quote> Seems to only affect men... so you might think that maybe there's another factor involved here such has who the hell even are the N Group?! Well, if you check the pdf (which you linked) > Focusing analysis on reports of myocarditis and myocarditis with pericarditis (myopericarditis) following COVID-19 vaccination As of August 18, 2021, total of 2,574 reports in all ages/age groups That's right, 2574 total CASES of suspected myocarditis as reported to VAERS (which doesn't mean anything)... out of, what 1 billion vaccinated? Even then, it looks like of those 2574 cases only... -tally tally tally- about 60% of those were legitimate... ...ya, the chart isn't of cases... it's of what percentage of COMPLAINTS actually were REAL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 10/18/21 8:33:37 AM #5:	I got both shots months ago and Im fine. Man up and get the Jab already. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:959149880] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>I got both shots months ago and Im fine. Man up and get the Jab already. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 10/18/21 8:38:40 AM #6:	Lokarin posted... Seems to only affect men... so you might think that maybe there's another factor involved here such has who the hell even are the N Group?! Well, if you check the pdf (which you linked) > Focusing analysis on reports of myocarditis and myocarditis with pericarditis (myopericarditis) following COVID-19 vaccination As of August 18, 2021, total of 2,574 reports in all ages/age groups That's right, 2574 total CASES of suspected myocarditis as reported to VAERS (which doesn't mean anything)... out of, what 1 billion vaccinated? Even then, it looks like of those 2574 cases only... -tally tally tally- about 60% of those were legitimate... ...ya, the chart isn't of cases... it's of what percentage of COMPLAINTS actually were REAL 742 cases that met the CDC case definition of myocarditis or myopericarditis, of which 701 were hospitalized, and of those 667 were discharged, and 515 of those patients are known to have fully recovered (69% of all cases). That leaves 18 still hospitalized, 152 at home but still suffering symptoms, and 16 with unknown outcomes. No reported deaths. Out of about 400,000,000 doses administered in the US, making the risk of developing myocarditis about 0.00019%, and the risk of developing a serious case 0.00004%. Compared to 724,000 reported deaths out of 44.9 million cases of COVID-19, or about a 1.6% risk of dying. You are about 37,000 times more likely to DIE from COVID than suffer a serious but non-fatal case of inflammation of the heart muscle because of the vaccine. But anti-vaxxers have never been good at math. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:959149967] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>Seems to only affect men... so you might think that maybe there's another factor involved here such has who the hell even are the N Group?! Well, if you check the pdf (which you linked) > Focusing analysis on reports of myocarditis and myocarditis with pericarditis (myopericarditis) following COVID-19 vaccination As of August 18, 2021, total of 2,574 reports in all ages/age groups That's right, 2574 total CASES of suspected myocarditis as reported to VAERS (which doesn't mean anything)... out of, what 1 billion vaccinated? Even then, it looks like of those 2574 cases only... -tally tally tally- about 60% of those were legitimate... ...ya, the chart isn't of cases... it's of what percentage of COMPLAINTS actually were REAL</quote>742 cases that met the CDC case definition of myocarditis or myopericarditis, of which 701 were hospitalized, and of those 667 were discharged, and 515 of those patients are known to have fully recovered (69% of all cases). That leaves 18 still hospitalized, 152 at home but still suffering symptoms, and 16 with unknown outcomes. No reported deaths. Out of about 400,000,000 doses administered in the US, making the risk of developing myocarditis about 0.00019%, and the risk of developing a serious case 0.00004%. Compared to 724,000 reported deaths out of 44.9 million cases of COVID-19, or about a 1.6% risk of dying. You are about 37,000 times more likely to DIE from COVID than suffer a serious but non-fatal case of inflammation of the heart muscle because of the vaccine. But anti-vaxxers have never been good at math. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 10/18/21 9:32:29 AM #7:	Ironically, if OP understood what the stats meant and who the sample group was he coulda said "100% of vaccinated have myocarditis" and not actually be wrong --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:959151036] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Ironically, if OP understood what the stats meant and who the sample group was he coulda said "100% of vaccinated have myocarditis" and not actually be wrong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notschmendrake 10/18/21 9:51:08 AM #8:	fuck off spreader. <cite>Notschmendrake posted [p:959151417] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>fuck off spreader. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fierce_Deity_08 10/18/21 11:13:33 AM #9:	If you look at those stupid drug commercials, they have lists of side effects that make you think you shouldnt take them while still living. EVERYTHING has side effects. Hell, even food has side effects! --- Official Fierce Deity in my own mind. GT: OnikaraStar, PSN: Onikara, NNID: OnikaraStar <cite>Fierce_Deity_08 posted [p:959153462] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>If you look at those stupid drug commercials, they have lists of side effects that make you think you shouldnt take them while still living. EVERYTHING has side effects. Hell, even food has side effects! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Black_Crusher 10/18/21 11:40:57 AM #10:	Ah, and the day after I got the shot too. Something new to worry about whist I wait for the blood clots to arrive --- Equin 2: The Warren Peace- My Roguelike. Try the Demo! https://store.steampowered.com/app/1630690 <cite>Black_Crusher posted [p:959154194] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Ah, and the day after I got the shot too. Something new to worry about whist I wait for the blood clots to arrive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad_Max 10/18/21 11:47:51 AM #11:	But anti-vaxxers have never been good at math. Because they're dumb as dogshit --- Terminal Crazy https://imgur.com/R9TrmGD <cite>Mad_Max posted [p:959154378] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote><quote>But anti-vaxxers have never been good at math.</quote>Because they're dumb as dogshit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornedLion 10/18/21 12:41:25 PM #12:	Notschmendrake posted... fuck off spreader. This made me lol more than it shouldve. --- I'm actually really enjoying GodFall. <cite>HornedLion posted [p:959155815] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Notschmendrake posted... </cite> <quote>fuck off spreader.</quote> This made me lol more than it shouldve. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notschmendrake 10/18/21 12:52:50 PM #13:	HornedLion posted... This made me lol more than it shouldve. its funny because its true on 2 levels they spread covid and they spread their cheeks for trump and fox news <cite>Notschmendrake posted [p:959156120] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>HornedLion posted... </cite> <quote>This made me lol more than it shouldve.</quote> its funny because its true on 2 levels they spread covid and they spread their cheeks for trump and fox news </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Conner4REAL 10/18/21 2:07:28 PM #14:	https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/amp/ you are about 7X more likely to develop it from actually getting covid 19 than from the vaccine. --- "I pet my dog I don't eat it" ~ Lemone <cite>Conner4REAL posted [p:959158271] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/amp/ you are about 7X more likely to develop it from actually getting covid 19 than from the vaccine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 10/18/21 8:16:42 PM #15:	Because GFox will probably squish the hell out of this graphic, the left side is vaccinated with each light blue figure representing 1 case per 100,000 people, the dark blue 1 hospitalization per 100,000 people, and the black representing 1 death per 100,000. The right side is unvaccinated with light tan being 1 case per 100,000, brown 1 hospitalization per 100,000, and black 1 death per 100,000 --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:959169221] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote> Because GFox will probably squish the hell out of this graphic, the left side is vaccinated with each light blue figure representing 1 case per 100,000 people, the dark blue 1 hospitalization per 100,000 people, and the black representing 1 death per 100,000. The right side is unvaccinated with light tan being 1 case per 100,000, brown 1 hospitalization per 100,000, and black 1 death per 100,000 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartianManchild 10/18/21 8:18:13 PM #16:	Judgmenl posted... OK? At least I am not dead like hundreds of thousands of Republicans. Really showing your ignorance with this post. 1) The coronavirus doesnt care if your Republican or Democrat. 2) Republicans arent the only ones dying. 3) Even fully vaccinated Republicans like Colin Powell (RIP) died from the complications. Please educate yourself and have less bias before posting. Thx. Lokarin posted... who the hell even are the N Group?! If you dont know what an N Group is then I dont think youre really qualified to comment on scientific studies. captpackrat posted... Compared to 724,000 reported deaths out of 44.9 million cases of COVID-19, or about a 1.6% risk of dying. Surprised you didnt get modded for this post for trying to downplay this disease. Notschmendrake posted... fuck off spreader. Nah fam. The only thing I spread is scientific research and facts. <cite>MartianManchild posted [p:959169261] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite> <quote>OK? At least I am not dead like hundreds of thousands of Republicans.</quote>Really showing your ignorance with this post. 1) The coronavirus doesnt care if your Republican or Democrat. 2) Republicans arent the only ones dying. 3) Even fully vaccinated Republicans like Colin Powell (RIP) died from the complications. Please educate yourself and have less bias before posting. Thx. Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>who the hell even are the N Group?!</quote>If you dont know what an N Group is then I dont think youre really qualified to comment on scientific studies. captpackrat posted... </cite> <quote>Compared to 724,000 reported deaths out of 44.9 million cases of COVID-19, or about a 1.6% risk of dying.</quote>Surprised you didnt get modded for this post for trying to downplay this disease. Notschmendrake posted... </cite> <quote>fuck off spreader.</quote>Nah fam. The only thing I spread is scientific research and facts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notschmendrake 10/18/21 8:28:38 PM #17:	Nah fam. The only thing I spread is scientific research and facts. You sure do post a lot of misleading topics, which I know conflates to the same thing as "facts" in your brain. Also your forgotthe other thing you spread (those cheeks. Gotta open up for big daddy fox news) <cite>Notschmendrake posted [p:959169562] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote> <quote> Nah fam. The only thing I spread is scientific research and facts.</quote> You sure do post a lot of misleading topics, which I know conflates to the same thing as "facts" in your brain. Also your forgotthe other thing you spread (those cheeks. Gotta open up for big daddy fox news) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 10/18/21 8:43:01 PM #18:	MartianManchild posted... Republicans like Colin Powell (RIP) died from the complications. Please educate yourself and have less bias before posting. Thx. @MartianManchild , please educate yourself and have less bias before posting. Thnx. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/533575-colin-powell-i-can-no-longer-call-myself-a-fellow-republican <cite>Cacciato posted [p:959170002] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>MartianManchild posted... </cite> <quote>Republicans like Colin Powell (RIP) died from the complications. Please educate yourself and have less bias before posting. Thx.</quote>@MartianManchild , please educate yourself and have less bias before posting. Thnx. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/533575-colin-powell-i-can-no-longer-call-myself-a-fellow-republican </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/18/21 8:59:06 PM #19:	MartianManchild posted... Surprised you didnt get modded for this post for trying to downplay this disease. In what universe is "1.6% chance of dying" "downplaying" a disease? That's frigging huge. You've probably never done anything with a 1.6% chance of dying in your life. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:959170500] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>MartianManchild posted... </cite> <quote>Surprised you didnt get modded for this post for trying to downplay this disease.</quote> In what universe is "1.6% chance of dying" "downplaying" a disease? That's frigging huge. You've probably never done anything with a 1.6% chance of dying in your life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/18/21 9:00:26 PM #20:	some people will continue asserting their view as correct even when everything crumbles around them --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959170540] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>some people will continue asserting their view as correct even when everything crumbles around them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartianManchild 10/18/21 9:16:25 PM #21:	Notschmendrake posted... You sure do post a lot of misleading topics Nothing about my topic is misleading. All I did was post a scientific research study. I know how all of you guys love science. adjl posted... In what universe is "1.6% chance of dying" "downplaying" a disease? That's frigging huge. You've probably never done anything with a 1.6% chance of dying in your life. It just seemed like he was downplaying things, but its also worth noting that the actual coronavirus case number is going to be higher than what he posted because not everyone who contracted this disease went to a doctor for it to be verified and confirmed. Asymptomatic people for example were more likely not to be counted in the statistics because they never went and got tested. I would actually like to hear your take on this study @adjl since I respect your opinion on these matters even though we often disagree. <cite>MartianManchild posted [p:959171110] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Notschmendrake posted... </cite> <quote>You sure do post a lot of misleading topics</quote>Nothing about my topic is misleading. All I did was post a scientific research study. I know how all of you guys love science. adjl posted... </cite> <quote>In what universe is "1.6% chance of dying" "downplaying" a disease? That's frigging huge. You've probably never done anything with a 1.6% chance of dying in your life.</quote>It just seemed like he was downplaying things, but its also worth noting that the actual coronavirus case number is going to be higher than what he posted because not everyone who contracted this disease went to a doctor for it to be verified and confirmed. Asymptomatic people for example were more likely not to be counted in the statistics because they never went and got tested. I would actually like to hear your take on this study @adjl since I respect your opinion on these matters even though we often disagree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notschmendrake 10/18/21 9:18:20 PM #22:	Yo dawg, you dont need to spread em that wide. You're spreading those cheeks harder than you spread covid, and its unbecoming. At least make your daddies work for it a LITTLE bit <cite>Notschmendrake posted [p:959171169] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Yo dawg, you dont need to spread em that wide. You're spreading those cheeks harder than you spread covid, and its unbecoming. At least make your daddies work for it a LITTLE bit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartianManchild 10/18/21 9:19:49 PM #23:	Your dad wishes I would lmao <cite>MartianManchild posted [p:959171219] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Your dad wishes I would lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 10/18/21 9:23:50 PM #24:	MartianManchild posted... It just seemed like he was downplaying things, but its also worth noting that the actual coronavirus case number is going to be higher than what he posted because not everyone who contracted this disease went to a doctor for it to be verified and confirmed. Asymptomatic people for example were more likely not to be counted in the statistics because they never went and got tested. The actual number of deaths is probably higher as well, people who didn't go to the doctor and died at home or who died before test kits were available. There were 472,000 more deaths than usual in 2020, compared to 352,000 confirmed COVID deaths. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:959171336] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>MartianManchild posted... </cite> <quote>It just seemed like he was downplaying things, but its also worth noting that the actual coronavirus case number is going to be higher than what he posted because not everyone who contracted this disease went to a doctor for it to be verified and confirmed. Asymptomatic people for example were more likely not to be counted in the statistics because they never went and got tested.</quote>The actual number of deaths is probably higher as well, people who didn't go to the doctor and died at home or who died before test kits were available. There were 472,000 more deaths than usual in 2020, compared to 352,000 confirmed COVID deaths. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 10/18/21 9:28:53 PM #25:	@MartianManchild why did you skip my post <cite>Cacciato posted [p:959171489] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>@MartianManchild why did you skip my post </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/18/21 9:32:31 PM #26:	Fierce_Deity_08 posted... If you look at those stupid drug commercials, they have lists of side effects that make you think you shouldnt take them while still living. EVERYTHING has side effects. Hell, even food has side effects! Basically this Conner4REAL posted... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/amp/ you are about 7X more likely to develop it from actually getting covid 19 than from the vaccine. So basically, his science is actually working against him again? So, not really much of a surprise But I would like to see what he has to say about this But he probably wont respond since this goes against what he thinks MartianManchild posted... If you dont know what an N Group is then I dont think youre really qualified to comment on scientific studies. It seems youre the one whos not qualified to comment on scientific studies. I mean, based on Conner4REAL post, youre acting like getting the vaccine is so bad because it causes myocarditis, when catching Covid apparently has a higher chance MartianManchild posted... Surprised you didnt get modded for this post for trying to downplay this disease. Theres no reason for him to get modded Like at all MartianManchild posted... Nah fam. The only thing I spread is scientific research and facts. Thats what you think --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:959171601] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Fierce_Deity_08 posted...</cite> <quote>If you look at those stupid drug commercials, they have lists of side effects that make you think you shouldnt take them while still living. EVERYTHING has side effects. Hell, even food has side effects! </quote> Basically this Conner4REAL posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/amp/ you are about 7X more likely to develop it from actually getting covid 19 than from the vaccine.</quote> So basically, his science is actually working against him again? So, not really much of a surprise But I would like to see what he has to say about this But he probably wont respond since this goes against what he thinks MartianManchild posted...</cite> <quote>If you dont know what an N Group is then I dont think youre really qualified to comment on scientific studies.</quote> It seems youre the one whos not qualified to comment on scientific studies. I mean, based on Conner4REAL post, youre acting like getting the vaccine is so bad because it causes myocarditis, when catching Covid apparently has a higher chance MartianManchild posted...</cite> <quote>Surprised you didnt get modded for this post for trying to downplay this disease.</quote> Theres no reason for him to get modded Like at all MartianManchild posted...</cite> <quote>Nah fam. The only thing I spread is scientific research and facts. </quote> Thats what you think</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/18/21 9:33:06 PM #27:	Cacciato posted... MartianManchild why did you skip my post He also skipped Conner4REALs post, as well --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:959171622] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote>MartianManchild why did you skip my post </quote> He also skipped Conner4REALs post, as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartianManchild 10/18/21 9:38:20 PM #28:	Cacciato posted... @MartianManchild why did you skip my post Because we all know Powell is a Republican but he just isnt a Trumper. Everyone associating Republicans with Trump gave them a bad name and he wanted to distance himself from it which I completely understand. This is a prime example of the bias I was mentioning to Judgmenl. I know youre smarter than him and didnt feel like incinerating you with a well thought out post. <cite>MartianManchild posted [p:959171777] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Cacciato posted... </cite> <quote>@MartianManchild why did you skip my post</quote>Because we all know Powell is a Republican but he just isnt a Trumper. Everyone associating Republicans with Trump gave them a bad name and he wanted to distance himself from it which I completely understand. This is a prime example of the bias I was mentioning to Judgmenl. I know youre smarter than him and didnt feel like incinerating you with a well thought out post. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 10/18/21 9:56:08 PM #29:	MartianManchild posted... Because we all know Powell is a Republican but he just isnt a Trumper. Everyone associating Republicans with Trump gave them a bad name and he wanted to distance himself from it which I completely understand. This is a prime example of the bias I was mentioning to Judgmenl. I know youre smarter than him and didnt feel like incinerating you with a well thought out post. You can do a well thought-out post? Thats new, I guess. But I guess, for some bizarre reason, that you saying hes a Republican for your topic means more than him saying hes renounced it. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:959172309] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>MartianManchild posted... </cite> <quote>Because we all know Powell is a Republican but he just isnt a Trumper. Everyone associating Republicans with Trump gave them a bad name and he wanted to distance himself from it which I completely understand. This is a prime example of the bias I was mentioning to Judgmenl. I know youre smarter than him and didnt feel like incinerating you with a well thought out post.</quote>You can do a well thought-out post? Thats new, I guess. But I guess, for some bizarre reason, that you saying hes a Republican for your topic means more than him saying hes renounced it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 10/18/21 10:56:33 PM #30:	do not question the vaccine!!!! --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:959174207] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>do not question the vaccine!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/19/21 2:57:10 PM #31:	MartianManchild posted... It just seemed like he was downplaying things How? Without context (as you quoted it), that statistic has been presented neutrally, without any efforts to imply anything. With context (as you did not quote it), he's comparing that statistic to the likelihood of developing these complications and arriving at the conclusion that Covid is several orders of magnitude more dangerous than the vaccines, which is the exact opposite of downplaying Covid. MartianManchild posted... I would actually like to hear your take on this study @adjl since I respect your opinion on these matters even though we often disagree. My take is that this study isn't particularly useful for laypersons. It was published for the sake of people that are looking to better understand the breakdown of myocarditis vs. myopericarditis, how those outcomes compare to what would be expected from a control population, and what sort of treatment burden and overall harm can be expected from it. To be useful for laypersons, this study would need to provide the number of vaccines administered as a denominator so one can analyze the risk of getting the shot. Without a denominator, you can't compute that probability, which makes the information largely meaningless. The primary value of VAERS is as a starting point for vaccine safety researchers. Because of how informal and non-comprehensive a record it is, it indicates very little about quantitative risks. Instead, it says "this many people believe an association may exist between this vaccine and this outcome," which directs researchers to examine that potential association in greater detail so they can conclusively determine whether or not a link exists and how significant the risk is. For laypersons, VAERS serves as a database of things to look out for if they're skimming vaccine safety publications for the sake of becoming better informed, but the raw numbers should be taken with several grains of salt and they should be careful not to let their sense of risk be distorted by seeing those numbers in a vacuum. Krazy_Kirby posted... do not question the vaccine!!!! Quite the contrary: Question the vaccine all you want. Just don't ignore answers to those questions for failing to conform to your existing views. If you do that, you aren't asking questions, you're just stating your opinion with a question mark on the end. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:959192928] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>MartianManchild posted... </cite> <quote>It just seemed like he was downplaying things</quote> How? Without context (as you quoted it), that statistic has been presented neutrally, without any efforts to imply anything. With context (as you did not quote it), he's comparing that statistic to the likelihood of developing these complications and arriving at the conclusion that Covid is several orders of magnitude more dangerous than the vaccines, which is the exact opposite of downplaying Covid. MartianManchild posted... </cite> <quote>I would actually like to hear your take on this study @adjl since I respect your opinion on these matters even though we often disagree.</quote> My take is that this study isn't particularly useful for laypersons. It was published for the sake of people that are looking to better understand the breakdown of myocarditis vs. myopericarditis, how those outcomes compare to what would be expected from a control population, and what sort of treatment burden and overall harm can be expected from it. To be useful for laypersons, this study would need to provide the number of vaccines administered as a denominator so one can analyze the risk of getting the shot. Without a denominator, you can't compute that probability, which makes the information largely meaningless. The primary value of VAERS is as a starting point for vaccine safety researchers. Because of how informal and non-comprehensive a record it is, it indicates very little about quantitative risks. Instead, it says "this many people believe an association may exist between this vaccine and this outcome," which directs researchers to examine that potential association in greater detail so they can conclusively determine whether or not a link exists and how significant the risk is. For laypersons, VAERS serves as a database of things to look out for if they're skimming vaccine safety publications for the sake of becoming better informed, but the raw numbers should be taken with several grains of salt and they should be careful not to let their sense of risk be distorted by seeing those numbers in a vacuum. Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>do not question the vaccine!!!!</quote> Quite the contrary: Question the vaccine all you want. Just don't ignore answers to those questions for failing to conform to your existing views. If you do that, you aren't asking questions, you're just stating your opinion with a question mark on the end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/19/21 3:32:27 PM #32:	Krazy_Kirby posted... do not question the vaccine!!!! get confrontational when shown evidence refuting anti-vaccine claims! --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959193972] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>do not question the vaccine!!!!</quote>get confrontational when shown evidence refuting anti-vaccine claims! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 10/19/21 5:28:18 PM #33:	MartianManchild posted... If you dont know what an N Group is then I dont think youre really qualified to comment on scientific studies. That's not even what I was saying. I wasn't asking "umm, what's an N group?" - I was asking 'Who are the members of this specific N group?" Which, btw, the pdf DOES say - and reading who the members of the N group are it completely destroys the intuitive inference of the posted charts --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:959197200] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>MartianManchild posted... </cite> <quote>If you dont know what an N Group is then I dont think youre really qualified to comment on scientific studies.</quote> That's not even what I was saying. I wasn't asking "umm, what's an N group?" - I was asking 'Who are the members of this specific N group?" Which, btw, the pdf DOES say - and reading who the members of the N group are it completely destroys the intuitive inference of the posted charts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 10/19/21 7:55:43 PM #34:	ReturnOfFa posted... get confrontational when shown evidence refuting anti-vaccine claims! I wasn't aware people took this vaccine 3-5 years ago --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:959201704] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted...</cite> <quote> get confrontational when shown evidence refuting anti-vaccine claims! </quote> I wasn't aware people took this vaccine 3-5 years ago</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 10/19/21 8:10:29 PM #35:	vaccines didn't contain sentient organisms that took over control of your mind 3-5 years ago either --- i want you, to matter to you forget those backstabbers <cite>helIy posted [p:959202138] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>vaccines didn't contain sentient organisms that took over control of your mind 3-5 years ago either </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartianManchild 10/28/21 4:00:10 PM #36:	helIy posted... vaccines didn't contain sentient organisms that took over control of your mind 3-5 years ago either not surprised youre in purgatory. also surprised you didnt get modded for this <cite>MartianManchild posted [p:959477667] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>helIy posted... </cite> <quote>vaccines didn't contain sentient organisms that took over control of your mind 3-5 years ago either</quote>not surprised youre in purgatory. also surprised you didnt get modded for this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Adam_Savage 10/28/21 6:01:42 PM #37:	nothing about that sentence is moddable and i got put into purg because i filled the front page with duckbear topics --- WE SUFFER DO YOU WEEP FOR US <cite>Adam_Savage posted [p:959480967] in Myocarditi... [t:79716401]...</cite> <quote>nothing about that sentence is moddable and i got put into purg because i filled the front page with duckbear topics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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