Board 8 > Rank the Tracks Week 32: Rancid's And Out Come the Wolves (+ Powerslave results)

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Previous results can be seen here:
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks

The rules:
1. Listen to the album in full
2. Rank every track on the album
3. For the results, there will be a curve at the top of each list; two additional points between #1 and #2, and one additional point for the next two ranks. This way, the songs that really stick out to someone get an edge that is not immediately negated by someone else putting it lower. In the case of Demon Days, someone's 15th track will get 1 point, 14th 2 points, 4th 12 points, 3rd 14 points, 2nd 16 points, and 1st 19 points. For albums with greater than 15 tracks, everything ranked below #15 will be given 0 points and the scale for the top 15 will be the same as a 15-track album. For albums with more than 20 tracks, you only have to list your top 15 (with 16-20, I still like having the average rank listed)
4. If you want to include comments for individual songs, I will compile them in the results
5. The results will be posted at the beginning of the next topic
6. The deadline to vote is Sunday, October 17 at 8:00 AM EST - though if you are for whatever reason listening to the album around that time, just say so in the topic and I can delay a bit
7. You can sign up to be added to a user cycle for after we finish the queue; once we get through the last planned album, the next person on the list will choose 3 albums which the other users will vote on for the next topic.
7a. To ensure people are being given an actual choice, the three nominated albums must be by different artists. You can otherwise stick to a similar sound or era.
7b. The tiebreaker for these polls will be whichever is listed first in the poll options - make sure to deliver the results in order of your own preference (which will hopefully have the added benefit of influencing people toward your first choice if they can't decide).

Rancid's ...And Out Come the Wolves track list:
1. Maxwell Murder
2. The 11th Hour
3. Roots Radicals
4. Time Bomb
5. Olympia WA.
6. Lock, Step & Gone
7. Junkie Man
8. Listed M.I.A.
9. Ruby Soho
10. Daly City Train
11. Journey to the End of the East Bay
12. She's Automatic
13. Old Friends
14. Disorder and Disarray
15. The Wars End
16. You Don't Care Nothin'
17. As Wicked
18. Avenues & Alleyways
19. The Way I Feel

Schedule:
10/17: OutKast - Aquemini (Giggsalot)
10/24: Of Monsters and Men - My Head Is an Animal (Jesse_Custer)
10/31: Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Snake5555555555)
11/7: The Avalanches - Since I Left You (SpikeSetsFire)
11/14: Moby - Play (SpikeSetsFire)
11/21: Steely Dan - Can't Buy a Thrill (Seginustemple)

User Cycle sign-ups:
11/28: MetalmindStats
12/5: TheArkOfTurus
12/12: Snake5555555555
12/19: Jesse_Custer
12/26: ZaziGuado
1/2: SpikeSetsFire
1/9: Johnbobb
1/16: VeryInsane
1/23: CasanovaZelos
1/30: Seanchan
2/6: Giggsalot
2/13: RyoCaliente
2/20: darkx
2/27: neonreaper
3/6: Great_Paul
3/13: jcgamer107
3/20: ChichiriMuyo

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Iron Maiden's Powerslave results

The participants sorted by deviation from final results:
Raetsel_Lapin (4)
BlueCrystalTear (8)
CasanovaZelos (8)
hotdogturtle (8)
plasmabeam (8)
Seanchan (8)
ZeroSignal620 (8)
HBJDubs (10)
Snake5555555555 (10)
Janus5k (12)
SpikeSetsFire (12)
Johnbobb (14)
lordjers (14)
TheArkOfTurus (16)
VeryInsane (16)

Snake5555555555: A juggernaut of classic heavy metal. The riffs keep coming and they keep getting faster and heavier. Iron Maiden excels at creating songs like this but that which are also catchy as hell and makes you want to replay them over and over. It proves you don't have to eschew accessible songwriting for impactful tracks. "2 Minutes to Midnight" is my favorite Maiden song, with fantastic thematic qualities and instantly infectious hook. "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" is the progressive song on the album, a heavy metal tapestry exploring the frantic feeling of death portrayed through guitar and the dark ambiance of pure despair. Songs like "Aces High" and "Back in the Village" serve as your blood-pumping songs, "Back in the Village" in particular features one of Maiden's best and fastest riffs. The rest of the album is solid with nothing specific for me to say, but I still think they're awesome songs and any are worthy of being classics. This may not be my favorite Maiden album, but I could see the case for it being the best and regardless stands as influential and iconic to this day.

CasanovaZelos: The second new album for me from this project after Ben Folds Five - and I like every track here!

plasmabeam: Choosing among the Top 4 is torture.

BlueCrystalTear: This was a pretty good album - every song is great. However, for the cohesive whole, I think it needed a ballad (y'know, the really good '80s rock kind) before Flash of the Blade for a better balance. That could've made the subsequent riffs stand out even more while grabbing attention itself. That does not change that this is a fantastic collection of songs and I'd give it another spin (after listening to it twice today).

Seanchan: I'm TRULY at a loss for how I've never listened to an Iron Maiden album before. I've heard Run for the Hills and The Number of the Beast before, but never an full album, despite the fact that I went through a major metal phase back in college. I enjoy(ed) the hell out of bands like Metallica, Symphony X, Sonata Arctica. I've listened to Blind Guardian and Dragonforce and plenty of other metal bands/songs of various sub genres. And yet I never journeyed back to the source!

All of which is to say that this was a very positive first listen. This is the type of music that I've loved in the past and it was great to get back to it again.

Seanchan: Like seriously, how the fuck did I never listen to Iron Maiden until just now!?! This album kicks ass. Iron Maiden in general kicks ass.

It's hard to have a bad ranking for this album. Losfer Words was the clear bottom rung for me but even that's still pretty good. For the rest, I could have rearranged it a lot of different ways without feeling badly.

hotdogturtle: This is one of the albums commonly cited as Iron Maiden's #1. And personally I'm there with it, it's the one that I've always called my favorite when I'm forced to choose.

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Powerslave track ranking

8. Losfer Words (Big 'Orra) (Track #3)
Score: 35 (Average Rank: 6.67/8)
Biggest Fan(s): TheArkOfTurus, HBJDubs, SpikeSetsFire (#4)
Biggest Detractor(s): Snake5555555555, CasanovaZelos, plasmabeam, Raetsel_Lapin, Seanchan, ZeroSignal620, hotdogturtle (#8)

BlueCrystalTear: It's a kickass instrumental, but I don't know about the title. The music certainly doesn't sound like somebody is at a loss for words.

7. Back in the Village (Track #6)
Score: 45 (Average Rank: 6.07/8)
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb (#3)
Biggest Detractor(s): HBJDubs, VeryInsane (#8)

BlueCrystalTear: Another epic hard-rocking guitar-fest of awesome. In a vacuum, I'd probably rave about it more, but against the first two tracks? Yeah

6. The Duellists (Track #5)
Score: 52 (Average Rank: 5.87/8)
Biggest Fan(s): lordjers (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Janus5k, BlueCrystalTear, Johnbobb, SpikeSetsFire (#8)

BlueCrystalTear: This song is when I started feeling things were getting a little repetitive. It's still good on its own but it doesn't do anything that the songs before it didn't already do better.

5. Flash of the Blade (Track #4)
Score: 54 (Average Rank: 5.73/8)
Biggest Fan(s): VeryInsane (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): TheArkOfTurus, lordjers (#8)

BlueCrystalTear: Doesn't have the same hook as the three songs that came before it. Could have been something more than it was, since it started strong.

4. Powerslave (Track #7)
Score: 88 (Average Rank: 3.87/8)
Biggest Fan(s): TheArkOfTurus, Janus5k, plasmabeam, VeryInsane (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): HBJDubs (#7)

BlueCrystalTear: One of those deep cuts that's just as good as the big stuff. One can see why it's the title track.

3. 2 Minutes to Midnight (Track #2)
Score: 101 (Average Rank: 3.33/8)
Biggest Fan(s): Snake5555555555, CasanovaZelos (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): TheArkOfTurus (#6)

BlueCrystalTear: This is how you keep someone's attention after getting it. Fantastic stuff.

2. Rime of the Ancient Mariner (Track #8)
Score: 130 (Average Rank: 2.47/8)
Biggest Fan(s): TheArkOfTurus, Johnbobb, Raetsel_Lapin, ZeroSignal620, SpikeSetsFire, hotdogturtle (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): VeryInsane (#6)

BlueCrystalTear: This is how you create an epic operatic closer - a song that goes on and yet remains engaging throughout.

hotdogturtle: This song is more than just a poem set to music. It has distinct different sections to match the progression of the story, but notably, each section rocks just as hard as any individual song that Iron Maiden has. It's almost like 2 or 3 songs combined, but they all fit together to complete the story. Very enjoyable experience to listen to despite its length, and it makes the time fly by like nothing.

1. Aces High (Track #1)
Score: 140 (Average Rank: 2/8)
Biggest Fan(s): Janus5k, plasmabeam, BlueCrystalTear, Seanchan, HBJDubs (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Snak5555555555, TheArkOfTurus, Raetsel_Lapin, SpikeSetsFire, VeryInsane (#3)

BlueCrystalTear: THIS is how you get somebody's attention. What a thrilling opener!

hotdogturtle: For a long time this song was my favorite. Super high energy, intense, and catchy.

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CasanovaZelos posted...

hotdogturtle: This song is more than just a poem set to music. It has distinct different sections to match the progression of the story, but notably, each section rocks just as hard as any individual song that Iron Maiden has. It's almost like 2 or 3 songs combined, but they all fit together to complete the story. Very enjoyable experience to listen to despite its length, and it makes the time fly by like nothing.

Very true. It's like Maiden's version of Bohemian Rhapsody.

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This is my 9th favorite album of all time, will get a ranking in later!

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Wow, Back in the Village got super fucked. Kinda makes me wish that I did keep it at my original higher ranking.

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goddamn 6 people had Rime as their #1 and it still fell short

I mean I can't complain or even say I'm surprised Aces High won, but man Rime came so close

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whoa I missed Maiden

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Done 2 listens to this so far. I certainly like this type of punk more than The Pixies. (The Pixies are punk, right? Or at least punk-ish?). Time Bomb and Ruby Soho I had heard before, so that was a nice surprise.

With that said, I'm not looking forward to doing a ranking. 19 songs is just too many! This album is the same length as Powerslave and has 11 more songs. I know, it's the nature of metal vs punk songs, but still! It's hard for me to keep all the songs in my head once you start to get much past a dozen.

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So, I just got done watching Promising Young Woman (good movie, btw). And what song happens to get played early on? 2 Become 1 by the fucking Spice Girls! Truly serendipitous.

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No rankings below 3rd for Aces High, wow. hell yeah

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Seanchan posted...

(The Pixies are punk, right? Or at least punk-ish?)

Definitely ...ish. Pixies are more proto-grunge than anything.

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Is anyone else struggling with ranking this album? I did my "preliminary ranking" listen and it was really difficult for me. I've enjoyed this album but there's not a lot of highs or lows to make this easy to distinguish songs I've only heard a few times.

I'll have a ranking at the end of this...I'm just not sure it's going to be a good one...

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1. Listed M.I.A.
2. Lock, Step & Gone
3. Olympia WA.
4. Roots Radicals
5. Time Bomb
6. Journey to the End of the East Bay
7. As Wicked
8. Ruby Soho
9. Disorder and Disarray
10. Old Friend
11. You Don't Care Nothin'
12. The Wars End
13. Junkie Man
14. Avenues & Alleyways
15. The 11th Hour
16. Maxwell Murder
17. The Way I Feel
18. Daly City Train
19. She's Automatic

To me, this is quintessential punk rock. Rancid's Let the Dominoes Fall may have been my first true introduction to the genre, but it was ...And Out Comes the Wolves that truly made me love punk as a cohesive whole. The tracks here are nothing short of firecrackers, short bursts of anger, pure energy, awesome basslines, and the catchiest hooks this side of punk, yet with also a strange sort of lonely sadness always lurking in the background. "Maxwell Murder" keeps off the album immediately with these tenets in mind. It has an ambient opening, the calm before the storm if you will, with wind and church chimes before launching into the explosive riff and Armstrong's speedy vocals about a drug dealer hooking you in with drugs, comparing him to "Jack the Ripper", but worse: he's an ordinary crook and one that can be found on street corners all over the country. There's no need for direct murders when those addicted can do it themselves. It's these kind of topics Rancid continues to tackle throughout the record, and in even darker ways. "As Wicked" is as brutal and depressing as punk music gets, bluntly tackling homeless, hunger, and drug abuse pulling no punches, but Rancid belies its dark messages with sunny hooks and fun riffs: much like the people in the song, forgotten and ignored by society, it's easy to ignore or not even notice the meaning in the first place. Clever stuff. ...And Out Come the Wolves is punk poetry in its purest form, I can close my eyes and visualize this whole album and all the people and places it takes about with ease. It's not always an easy journey, but if you're ever feeling outcasted, depressed, or alone, this album can take just a bit of that pain away, at least for me.

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Fun album, but I agree with the people saying this was difficult to rank.

My ranking:
Ruby Soho
Time Bomb
Roots Radicals
Lock, Step & Gone
Maxwell Murder
Journey to the End of the East Bay
Old Friend
Olympia WA.
The 11th Hour
Disorder and Disarray
Listed M.I.A.
Daly City Train
Avenues & Alleyways
Junkie Man
The Way I Feel
The Wars End
She's Automatic
As Wicked
You Don't Care Nothin'

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Ooh this is the album that got me into Rancid, one of my favorite bands. These days I like most of their other albums more, because this one is so homogeneous, which as said above, makes it hard to rank the songs.

Or so I thought!! But actually I had no trouble. I'm still really hyped about the top 6 songs here, I still like songs 7 through 13, and I'm pretty sick of songs 14-17. And, 18 and 19 I never really liked.

1. The 11th Hour (I once told someone this was my favorite song of all time, in middle school)
2. Journey to the End of the East Bay (If I wanted someone to like Rancid, I'd show them this song)
3. Old Friend (do I just like this because I live in Cleveland?)
4. Avenues & Alleyways (the final chorus has an extra harmonizing backing vocal that I love)
5. Daly City Train (when the bass kicks in at 0:20, feels so good)
6. Olympia WA. (tim introducing this song: "this is a song about new york... it's called Olympia WA!" so funny to me)
7. Roots Radicals (very fun to sing along, great bass)
8. The Wars End (very fun to sing along, the early tempo change is rad)
9. Junkie Man (it's all about that weird interlude with the poem around 2:00)
10. You Don't Care Nothin' (surprisingly unformulaic. I like the "about me, about me" part)
11. Listed M.I.A. (it's the 3 stomps before the chorus)
12. Lock, Step & Gone (maybe a little repetitive, but the bridge in the middle is good)
13. As Wicked ("hey grrl I'll be your friend but who's keeping score" I like this weird line)
14. Time Bomb (I'm sorry tim I'm pretty sick of this song, a little too repetitive, crazy catchy tho)
15. Maxwell Murder (I wish the chorus was better, and I kinda think this style of bass solo is a little cringe, even though I love bass in general)
16. Disorder and Disarray (a little forgettable, but the bars right before each chorus are cool)
17. Ruby Soho (amazing chorus, but the verses are really boring for me)
18. The Way I Feel (kinda forgettable and reminds me that the album is ending)
19. She's Automatic (kinda cringe, but not that bad. glad to see others also have it low)

This acoustic no-vocals version of Old Friend that I love, may have greatly boosted my opinion of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFGFbZ7Z_F4

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1. Junkie Man
2. Maxwell Murder
3. Time Bomb
4. Lock, Step & Gone
5. Ruby Soho
6. Olympia WA.
7. As Wicked
8. Disorder and Disarray
9. Roots Radicals
10. The 11th Hour
11. Listed M.I.A.
12. Avenues & Alleyways
13. The Way I Feel
14. Old Friends
15. The Wars End
16. Journey to the End of the East Bay
17. Daly City Train
18. She's Automatic
19. You Don't Care Nothin'

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1: Listed M.I.A.
2: Ruby Soho
3: Olympia, WA
4: Time Bomb
5: As Wicked
6: The 11th Hour
7: Old Friend
8: Daly City Train
9: Roots Radicals
10: Maxwell Murder
11: Avenues & Alleyways
12: Journey to the End of the East Bay
13: The Way I Feel
14: She's Automatic
15: The Wars End

16: Disorder and Disarray
17: Lock, Step and Gone
18: Junkie Man
19: You Don't Care Nothin'



I'm not very confident in these rankings since I only managed to listen to the album once this week, but I've been oddly busy for once and my options are either post this "first impression" list or skip ranking this week entirely. So, with apologies, this shall have to be good enough.

Fun album, though it's difficult to rate. It's a constant barrage of rapid-fire, high energy songs and there's never a moment to relax or properly take in everything that's happening. I don't dislike any of the songs and it's obviously a high quality album, but I eventually get exhausted and want a break. I think I'd prefer hearing these songs on a playlist with greater musical variety instead of on an album, but I did enjoy it anyway.
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1. Ruby Soho
2. Time Bomb
3. Olympia WA.
4. Maxwell Murder
5. Lock, Step & Gone
6. Old Friends
7. Roots Radicals
8. The Way I Feel
9. She's Automatic
10. Listed M.I.A.
11. Daly City Train
12. As Wicked
13. Avenues & Alleyways
14. The 11th Hour
15. You Don't Care Nothin'
16. Journey to the End of the East Bay
17. Disorder and Disarray
18. The Wars End
19. Junkie Man

Overall, I think this is a solid album. It feels like it's 10 minutes (3-4 songs) too long though.

Ranking this too more effort than usual. Normally, I can be doing other things as I'm listening and still get that done. With this, I had to sit and focus and try to keep all the songs straight in my head. Which proved tough, as a lot of them sound a little too similar. If I listened to these songs in a different order then this would likely be a different list. But I think I got stuff generally positioned correctly between the top, middle, and bottom.


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Seanchan posted...

1. Ruby Soho
2. Time Bomb

These were 2 of the 3 big singles from the album that made rancid pretty famous, in case u didn't know (as well as Roots Radicals)

maybe you should be radio dj

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Epyo posted...

These were 2 of the 3 big singles from the album that made rancid pretty famous, in case u didn't know (as well as Roots Radicals)

maybe you should be radio dj

LOL. As I said in an earlier post, those 2 songs were ones I recognized on my initial listens, and there's always a bias towards what you know. I try to combat that as much as I can, but sometimes the singles still end up on top. If I didn't hear them on the radio back in the day, then it would have been from games, probably one of the Tony Hawks.

Time Bomb is, for this album, rather distinctive, and was a quintessential "oh yeah THAT song!" for me.

Ruby Soho is just got that really catchy chorus. I heard that and I immediately knew I'd heard it before, though I couldn't place the when/where. I also think it's more to the overall "sound" of Rancid (or at least this album...), which is why I put it on top.

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I think Time Bomb is the only song from this album I'd heard before

although the entire album sounds like the THPS/UG soundtracks so who knows

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Lock, Step & Gone
The 11th Hour
Ruby Soho
Avenues & Alleyways
Time Bomb
Disorder and Disarray
She's Automatic
Roots Radical
Olympia WA
Old Friend
As Wicked
The Wars End
Daly City Train
Journey To The End Of The East Bay
The Way I Feel
Junkie Man
You Don't Care Nothin'
Listed M.I.A.
Maxwell Murder

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