Board 8 > Castlevania Advance Collection gets another rating in Taiwan

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th3l3fty
09/25/21 6:44:59 PM
#51:


CotM also has a really bad map and incredibly uninspiring abilities

and even with help, a ton of the DSS cards are still in stupid spots
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TomNook
09/25/21 6:56:56 PM
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ninkendo posted...
and thankfully this collection has those indicators when an enemy can drop a card so it's not as frustrating as it used to be
Wait, are there changes to the actual games in this collection, besides the inclusion of the Load/Rewind things?

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ninkendo
09/25/21 6:59:54 PM
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it's more an overlay that's part of the emulator they're using

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Grand Kirby
09/25/21 7:02:49 PM
#54:


What are the things that are added to this collection that weren't in the original games?

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ninkendo
09/25/21 7:06:10 PM
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Save States, Rewind and CotM at least has an indicator pop up when an enemy can drop a card.

I don't know yet if the other games have something similar like for collecting all the enemy souls in Aria.

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Epyo
09/25/21 7:24:09 PM
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Yeah I always thought the DSS card system was cool, but a little too grindy / required too much research. But calling them "cards" makes the abilities more fun for some reason.

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OK, finished Aria, 99.1%, 3 hrs 57 mins. Wow, that was so fun. Hadn't played all the way through since the late 2000s probably, I pretty much always dive for the DS games when I need a metroidvania fix.

What I had forgotten about Aria compared to the DS games though, is, there's really no annoying side stuff getting in the way in Aria. It's just go go go, uncover the map and win. OoE has the villager quests, PoR has that ghost's quests, DoS has all the crafting required to get your favorite weapons.

Another thing I forgot, is how fun the Claimh Solais is to use. I remember it being fun, but god you can just seriously stomp the back 25% of that game if you remember where to go get it.

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Isquen
09/25/21 7:28:24 PM
#57:


th3l3fty posted...
CotM also has a really bad map and incredibly uninspiring abilities

and even with help, a ton of the DSS cards are still in stupid spots

Nah, I think the map isn't as bad as, say, HoD's.
You're right about some of the cards, though. Here's another spoiler: when you go to revisit some areas later, and there are stronger monsters around again, check the whole area.

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ninkendo
09/25/21 7:41:00 PM
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I havne't bothered to check, but is the DSS glitch still in there to let you use any card combination immediately as soon as you have 1 top card and 1 bottom card

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WazzupGenius00
09/25/21 8:00:28 PM
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GOGZero
09/25/21 8:35:10 PM
#60:


Epyo posted...


Another thing I forgot, is how fun the Claimh Solais is to use. I remember it being fun, but god you can just seriously stomp the back 25% of that game if you remember where to go get it.

It also helps that 90% of the enemies is weak to Holy.


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ninkendo
09/28/21 1:04:57 AM
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GuessMyUserName
09/28/21 1:19:13 AM
#62:


accurate polygon article, can't remember the last one of those I saw

i don't see a lot of polygon articles

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TomNook
09/28/21 1:41:34 AM
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ninkendo posted...
I wasn't going to say it, but thankfully Polygon did

https://www.polygon.com/22692213/castlevania-advance-collection-aria-of-sorrow-symphony-night-release-circle-moon-konami
The article made a ton of comparisons of Aria to other Castlevania games, but there isn't a single mention of Dawn of Sorrow...which is my favorite Castlevania game. As someone who hasn't played Aria, I'm worried it will feel like a downgrade of DoS.

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KingButz
09/28/21 1:42:29 AM
#64:


Well, it is a downgrade of DoS

Every game is
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ninkendo
09/28/21 1:44:36 AM
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I would say the things Aria has over Dawn is the art style, the castle design, and no forced touch screen puzzles.

Dawn has the edge in graphics sound and gameplay though which I guess is where it actually counts

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GuessMyUserName
09/28/21 2:20:22 AM
#66:


I always gave Aria the edge in my heart for enjoying the story

like ofc the game is very minimal on storytelling, but what's there does give the game and its characters a bit more that sticks with you

ofc playing Dawn first will uh spoil that for you though

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ninkendo
09/28/21 2:41:09 AM
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Yeah story also goes to Aria, which is already ruined for those who already played Dawn first

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ninkendo
09/28/21 12:40:46 PM
#68:


I missed this but the official trailer Konami put out for Advance Collection is incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5KIHngxiBk&ab_channel=Konami

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JonThePenguin
09/28/21 12:45:05 PM
#69:


Oh wow you weren't kidding

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GuessMyUserName
09/28/21 12:54:01 PM
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amazing

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Seanchan
09/28/21 1:04:45 PM
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I approve of that trailer. Someone was having a ton of fun making that.

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MrGreenonion
09/28/21 4:08:30 PM
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The announcer sounds kinda like Mr Lobo from Cinema Insomnia, I can't tell if it's him or just someone mimicking the same sound
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andylt
09/28/21 4:14:18 PM
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Wow they really should've put that trailer into the Direct, it would've been super memorable and fun.

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StartTheMachine
09/28/21 5:33:08 PM
#74:


TomNook posted...
The article made a ton of comparisons of Aria to other Castlevania games, but there isn't a single mention of Dawn of Sorrow...which is my favorite Castlevania game. As someone who hasn't played Aria, I'm worried it will feel like a downgrade of DoS.

That's exactly how it feels and why personally it would be DoS > SotN > Aria.

Maybe if I played Aria first. But yeah, honestly I thought Harmony was basically just as good when I played them back to back. Maybe I'll feel differently now.

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Epyo
09/28/21 7:29:03 PM
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I'm thinking Aria > Dawn because of story but also because I really do hate that weapon crafting system in Dawn. IIRC you kinda stop finding good weapons and instead you gotta grind out some souls to get better ones, maybe even having to google what you need.

Then again, I also just played Aria so that might be benefitting.

Dawn does have some cool areas, IIRC I loved the tower on the right hand side of the castle.

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KingButz
09/28/21 7:35:17 PM
#76:


I didn't mind the weapon stuff in Dawn because it's purely optional. The game is not hard to beat even with weapons that you just find.
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Grand Kirby
09/28/21 8:04:19 PM
#77:


I don't remember how you get it, but that weapon that's just like a circular boomerang you can throw while moving was the absolute best and once I got that I stopped caring about new weapons.

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MrGreenonion
09/28/21 11:12:43 PM
#78:


I just didn't like Dawn bc I couldn't finish it

Those stupid touchscreen puzzles to kill the bosses never worked right for me, I got to a point where I KO'd the boss like 6 times but I just couldn't draw the seal and I eventually lost.

Hopefully when they make a DS collection there's an option to turn them off
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ChainLTTP
09/29/21 9:56:19 AM
#79:


So with the Castlevania Anniversary and Advance Collections, the only 2D Castlevanias that are not on modern compilations are the DS games, Symphony of the Night, and Rondo of Blood (the PCEngine and PSP versions), yes? I wonder if Konami will package those all together or try to milk two more games out of them.
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ninkendo
09/29/21 9:57:40 AM
#80:


SotN and Rondo got their own separate collection, but it was only on PS4

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JonThePenguin
09/29/21 10:03:56 AM
#81:


ninkendo posted...
SotN and Rondo got their own separate collection, but it was only on PS4
Which is why despite the fact that I wouldve preferred to play the other collections on Switch I bought them on PS4, to have them all together.

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ChainLTTP
09/29/21 11:03:10 AM
#82:


ninkendo posted...
SotN and Rondo got their own separate collection, but it was only on PS4
Ah, I see. It looks like they are essentially just ROMs of the PSP release, so it makes sense that it's a PlayStation exclusive.
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WazzupGenius00
09/29/21 3:55:56 PM
#83:


ChainLTTP posted...
So with the Castlevania Anniversary and Advance Collections, the only 2D Castlevanias that are not on modern compilations are the DS games, Symphony of the Night, and Rondo of Blood (the PCEngine and PSP versions), yes? I wonder if Konami will package those all together or try to milk two more games out of them.
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Castlevania (X68000) (the best 2D Castlevania), and its updated PS1 version, Castlevania Chronicles
Castlevania Legends (Game Boy)

Haunted Castle is on the Konami Arcade Collection that came out at the same time as the Castlevania and Contra Collections but they could release it again

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AxemRedRanger
09/29/21 4:23:21 PM
#84:


That Polygon article is kind of terrible. Not because they're wrong that Aria has advantages over the other two GBA games or Symphony of the Night but because those are pretty soft targets and they failed to even acknowledge the DS games exist.

It's the equivalent of arguing that one of the NSMB games is the best 2-D Mario by comparing it to Mario 1 and the Mario Land games.

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ChainLTTP
09/29/21 5:41:55 PM
#85:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
Castlevania Legends (Game Boy)
Oh hey this is the one I already own!

Surprised this was not in the anniversary collection
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ChainLTTP
09/29/21 6:03:59 PM
#86:


Also WTF this is going for $900 complete? Jesus
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WazzupGenius00
09/29/21 8:10:15 PM
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Oh also, Castlevania Adventure Rebirth (Wii)
and I guess Castlevania Harmony of Despair technically but that would probably be a stand-alone rerelease rather than be in a collection

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MrGreenonion
09/29/21 8:15:33 PM
#88:


Don't forget Castlevania: Order of Shadows for Java phones!
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GOGZero
09/29/21 9:08:07 PM
#89:


WazzupGenius00 posted...

Haunted Castle is on the Konami Arcade Collection that came out at the same time as the Castlevania and Contra Collections but they could release it again

It also has it's own stand alone release

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/arcade-archives-haunted-castle-switch/

Still better off getting the Arcade Collection cause extra games.

MrGreenonion posted...
Don't forget Castlevania: Order of Shadows for Java phones!

Don't forget Castlevania Puzzle: Encore of the Night!

https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Castlevania_Puzzle:_Encore_of_the_Night

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WazzupGenius00
09/29/21 9:28:03 PM
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Arcade Archives version gives you all variants of the game (as all ACA titles do) while the Collection only gives you the version for your region. The US version of Hainted Castle is horribly balanced, designed to instantly take your money

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