Board 8 > FFXIV Topic Part 8 -- Suffering from Success

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UshiromiyaEva
09/21/21 8:15:51 PM
#251:


If I could actually BUY additional retainers I absolutely would. But I can't, I can only rent them.

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trdl23
09/22/21 3:17:06 AM
#252:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
There are two types of people who play black mage: those who like big crits and those who like to go fast. You must be a crit main
Why would someone play Black Mage if they wanted to go fast?

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Dantezoid
09/22/21 8:14:39 AM
#253:


Spell speed build of BLM is legit

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trdl23
09/22/21 9:19:54 AM
#254:


Oh, okay, that was in context of what kind of substats to choose. I thought you meant overall!

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The Mana Sword
09/22/21 9:58:39 AM
#255:


I don't really love Leylines either, but that's probably because I'm bad at using it effectively in a lot of fights (or just straight up forget about it after the first use).

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banananor
09/22/21 1:41:49 PM
#256:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
There are two types of people who play black mage: those who like big crits and those who like to go fast. You must be a crit main
that's actually pretty accurate. i love high dps, and every time i have to step outside of the circle i feel the pain

if they removed the cooldown and/or dps bonus i'd probably like it more. if it was just a teleportation circle that'd actually be pretty sweet

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banananor
09/22/21 1:44:25 PM
#257:


if i was a bit more serious about the game i'd study up and memorize exactly when and where i'm supposed to place ley lines in every fight and maybe it would be pretty satisfying to display that mastery... but my time & friend group in the game has been more casual than that

back when i played wow mage might have been my favorite class, but i always specifically opted out of their ley lines equivalent talent

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ninkendo
09/22/21 2:40:51 PM
#258:


First full party wipe during a dungeon in dzemael darkhold

guess I pulled too many enemies in the exploding crystals area @_@

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UshiromiyaEva
09/22/21 3:16:52 PM
#259:


Everyone wipes at least once in Darkhold. I'm surprised you wiped there instead of in the big chamber right before the first boss though!

I mean it's always one of those two places, but more often the first.

At least when you wipe in Aurum Vale next, it's going to be in the first room!

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Radix
09/22/21 11:34:02 PM
#260:


fuck aurum vale imo

anyway stuck with summoner and im hitting buttons and things are dying so thats good at least. storyways ive learned the big assassination plot was a ruse, dragons are on the move, and im running with estinien looking for iceheart. not caring too much still but i know it gets better

also do i really have to go around and get aether currents to fly augh

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trdl23
09/22/21 11:43:42 PM
#261:


Yep, and I get why. It'd trivialize things in your first go-around otherwise.

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ninkendo
09/22/21 11:54:26 PM
#262:


So in my head canon for this game

Once my Paladin hit level 50, I started doing black mage on the side because I didn't want to over level a single class too much before hitting the expansions so I had a second class to soak up all the extra MSQ exp

However this was all intended from the beginning as freaking with the dark arts is what corrupts her and leads her down the path to eventually becoming a Dark Knight as my main class

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Radix
09/23/21 12:10:17 AM
#263:


trdl23 posted...
Yep, and I get why. It'd trivialize things in your first go-around otherwise.

eh makes sense. id rather it just be a reward at the end then instead of a go get all the things thing :/

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trdl23
09/23/21 9:52:16 AM
#264:


ninkendo posted...
So in my head canon for this game

Once my Paladin hit level 50, I started doing black mage on the side because I didn't want to over level a single class too much before hitting the expansions so I had a second class to soak up all the extra MSQ exp

However this was all intended from the beginning as freaking with the dark arts is what corrupts her and leads her down the path to eventually becoming a Dark Knight as my main class
Without going too deep into it, this might need to be revised once you learn how Dark Knight works story-wise in 14.

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ninkendo
09/23/21 9:58:11 AM
#265:


I completed the Aurum Vale....but before I talked to the guy in front of the dungeon to progress the Immortal Flames quest so it didn't count for that

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UshiromiyaEva
09/23/21 10:08:59 AM
#266:


Aurum Vale only has it's reputation for that first room. As long as you don't get screwed there it's honestly an easy mode dungeon.

Well, and as long as everyone knows when to eat fruit, but that's just knowing the mechanic and has nothing to do with actual ability.

Darkhold is waaaaay worse.

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/23/21 10:15:00 AM
#267:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Aurum Vale only has it's reputation for that first room. As long as you don't get screwed there it's honestly an easy mode dungeon.

Well, and as long as everyone knows when to eat fruit, but that's just knowing the mechanic and has nothing to do with actual ability.

Darkhold is waaaaay worse.

The second boss there used to not have AOE indicators (this was just the mechanic for how cyclopses worked) and would occasionally destroy newbie groups. Plus, while it's very little of an issue while synced down, people frequently run it undergeared which makes it MUCH worse for the tank and healer.

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ninkendo
09/23/21 10:15:11 AM
#268:


ya well time for me and my new Morbol Seedling to do it again

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UshiromiyaEva
09/23/21 10:18:46 AM
#269:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
The second boss there used to not have AOE indicators (this was just the mechanic for how cyclopses worked) and would occasionally destroy newbie groups. Plus, while it's very little of an issue while synced down, people frequently run it undergeared which makes it MUCH worse for the tank and healer.

Oh, so THAT'S why that Cyclops has more vibrant AoE indicators on that backwards attack than anything else in ARR. Always wondered about that!

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UshiromiyaEva
09/23/21 10:20:47 AM
#270:


Oh, and actual worst dungeon goes to Toto Rak normal because it's so God damn boring and it comes up in roulettes so much.

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Dantezoid
09/23/21 10:33:42 AM
#271:


Poor, poor coincounter

Guy just wants to surprise new melee with his swing and new ranged with his glower

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ninkendo
09/23/21 10:40:46 AM
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HeroDelTiempo17
09/23/21 11:35:32 AM
#273:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Oh, and actual worst dungeon goes to Toto Rak normal because it's so God damn boring and it comes up in roulettes so much.

Now this is a take I can get behind!

I think the only other competitor is Copperbell Mines which has extremely obnoxious mechanics on top of being boring but at least it's trying something...? All 3 of the tutorial dungeons I have literally fallen asleep while running them, but I can give them a pass because they're tutorials. Toto-Rak has no excuse and I do feel like it's more frequent.

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BK_Sheikah00
09/23/21 5:27:22 PM
#274:


Ifrit days are the best days

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Radix
09/24/21 12:12:22 AM
#275:


up to thok ast thok aw yeah

should probably go get some more equipment upgrades and maybe a better idea of what rotation to use

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ninkendo
09/24/21 12:15:12 AM
#276:


My plan this weekend was to finish WarioWare then hop back and forth between FF14 and Diablo 2 Resurrected

Now it's probably nothing but Actraiser Renaissance and Castlevania Advance Collection

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Radix
09/26/21 11:06:40 AM
#277:


beat ravana in glorious combat! messed up a bit but it wasnt too bad. at sohm al now

also thought i would set up crafting/gathering again and boy do i not remember any of it either. there is that new trial crafting thing i guess that would be a good way to figure that out again

and should i be doing anything with squadrons right now? im assuming its a thing to do after im done with msq but if theres a grind involved i might should start on it now?

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UshiromiyaEva
09/26/21 1:19:28 PM
#278:


Squadron stuff caps at 60 and exists almost purely to level up DPS jobs to 60 without queue times.

More importantly is the weekly source of 10 +30% EXP scrolls.

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/26/21 1:25:16 PM
#279:


Radix posted...


and should i be doing anything with squadrons right now? im assuming its a thing to do after im done with msq but if theres a grind involved i might should start on it now?

Leveling up the squadron members is time-gated since you have to do dispatch missions so yeah, might as well get started on that in advance.

Although I guess you could level them by spamming their dungeons too but sounds miserable.

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BK_Sheikah00
09/26/21 7:29:18 PM
#280:


Squadrons was a nice way to level 30-60 for dps jobs

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ninkendo
09/27/21 8:51:58 AM
#281:


Beast Tribe quests unlocked

now to ignore them unless I end up needing a reason to do them.

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LordoftheMorons
09/27/21 8:58:25 AM
#282:


The expansion ones give okay xp (especially the crafting/gathering ones), but the main reason to do them is that they unlock some mounts/minions/etc

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Dantezoid
09/27/21 9:40:11 AM
#283:


I recommend avoiding the (non crafting) ones until level 60+ anyway, because it just makes moving around those areas easier

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BK_Sheikah00
09/27/21 10:25:01 AM
#284:


The pain with ARR ones are when you have to do specific FATEs

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ninkendo
09/28/21 1:32:46 AM
#285:


Looks like I have 14 msq's left in ARR before I hit post-game patches

Probably take a short break after that to catch up on other games. I've just been rushing to be able to do the ff15 event before it goes away again

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ninkendo
09/28/21 1:38:08 AM
#286:


Classes currently at

PAL - 52
SAM - 51
BLM - 45

Wasn't having much fun with BLM until I hit level 40 and then it suddenly became very fun

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trdl23
09/28/21 7:14:17 AM
#287:


Yeah that's normal. BLM sucks until you get Firestarter procs.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/28/21 1:17:01 PM
#288:


Sakaguchi started playing XIV.

First thing he did was complain about how hard it is to install lol.

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ninkendo
09/28/21 1:21:40 PM
#289:


the game finally has father's approval?!

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UshiromiyaEva
09/28/21 1:35:52 PM
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ninkendo
09/28/21 1:49:10 PM
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Not_an_Owl
09/28/21 2:41:00 PM
#292:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Sakaguchi started playing XIV.

First thing he did was complain about how hard it is to install lol.
He's scheduled to have a chat with Yoshi at TGS, maybe if he makes that point it'll finally convince Yoshi to fix the ancient Mogstation site and make buying the game easier.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/28/21 2:48:55 PM
#293:


I don't think that is actually up to Yoshi, lol. I can't imagine it would still be like that if it was.

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Shadow Dino
09/28/21 11:18:40 PM
#294:


Yeah the full design is probably beyond Yoshi-P's control, but it can't hurt to make him more aware of the issues.

I for one want to see if Sakuguchi can bait Yoshida into letting out some FFXVI tidbits like Yoko Taro did during a Live Letter.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/29/21 12:37:49 PM
#295:


Rich and Asmon are getting a private play session of Endwalker today and then Asmon gets to interview YoshiP.

What is this timeline??

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Not_an_Owl
09/29/21 1:23:10 PM
#296:


It's almost like Squeenix wants the biggest possible audience for Endwalker hype and deliberately invited the streamers with the largest audiences to the media tour.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/29/21 1:26:54 PM
#297:


Oh for sure, it 100% makes sense. From a pure numbers standpoint he's easily their #1 streamer. Streaming FFXIV wasn't even a noteable category be for him, really.

It's also an especially tantalizing opportunity for the public image of "longtime WoW player who was banned from Blizzard stages invited by the head of FFXIV for a personal interview".

I more mean to just imagine someone saying that 4 months ago, lol.

I imagine the marketing team and dev team are having quite the internal conflict between "capitalize on the insane hype for the biggest launch ever" and "THE SERVERS ARE GOING TO EXPLODE"

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JonThePenguin
09/29/21 2:37:52 PM
#298:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
"THE SERVERS ARE GOING TO EXPLODE"
I resisted the urge to take time off for the launch for exactly this reason.

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LordoftheMorons
09/30/21 9:08:39 PM
#299:


Finally got my 200 S rank achievement

These last 20 or whatever were basically torture since apparently all the new people doing hunts don't have the courtesy to wait for people to get there; my success rate in getting to a hunt heading over instantly from the ping (sitting by the aetherye beforehand) is probably like 1/3 at most.

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X_Dante_X
09/30/21 9:21:11 PM
#300:


just start spawning them, you'll get in with the 'in' crowd and start being there at the spawns. you'd be surprised how long they wait even if pings come late
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