Poll of the Day > 65% of Democrats support VACCINE PASSPORTS for Gyms, Restaurants and Theatres!!!

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Full Throttle
08/10/21 12:36:02 AM
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Do you support vaccine passports?


Republicans favourite polling firm from Rasmussen show that more than 60% of Democrats want people to show PROOF of VACCINATION before they can enter indoor spaces while only 29% of Republicans feel the same as well as 36% of independents!!

It shows 44% of adults were in favour of such measure to go into indoor spaces such as gyms, restaurants and theatres.

It comes just as NYC became the first in the US to mandate people show proof of vaccination before entering indoor public places after outgoing Mayor, Bill de Blasio mandated the order who said it was important to make clear that people who are vaccinated get the benefit in all sorts of ways and to live a better life while those unvaccinated cannot put the people at risk

It was immediately slammed by Republicans in several red states who are fighting the so called "vaccine passports" as Joe Biden and his administration has been adamant not to implement the vaccine passport

De Blasio did not follow suit of other urban areas such as Los Angeles and Washington DC to reimpose masks for indoor spaces regardless of vaccination status

Black Americans are split on proof of vaccination with 50/50 while 43% of whites want the requirement and 43% of other racial minorities

A Far cry from up north in Canada where 74% of canadians say vaccines should be mandatory and 58% support passports while 20% oppose as the rest are unsure

Do you support vaccine passports?

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RobertFripp
08/11/21 1:41:25 AM
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It's a good idea

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Mead
08/11/21 1:51:26 AM
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We are doing it. Get on board or get out of the way.

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DANTE20XX
08/11/21 2:31:14 AM
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As long as we don't need an id to vote, sure!

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Gaawa_chan
08/11/21 2:35:12 AM
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As long as we aren't charged for them *glances at ID* I don't see a problem with this.

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Mead
08/11/21 2:50:56 AM
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DANTE20XX posted...
As long as we don't need an id to vote, sure!

good ol whataboutism

bet you have no clue that the majority of the people on the left are okay with an ID being required when voting

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MagicalPrincess
08/11/21 8:15:41 AM
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That's not America, that's anti-American and everything it stands for.

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Mead
08/11/21 9:08:41 AM
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MagicalPrincess posted...
That's not America, that's anti-American and everything it stands for.

Dude the US is literally anti-american in the modern era regardless of who is in charge

Its been bought out by the corporations and they are more than happy to sit back and watch us tear each other apart over the scraps they leave us

So you go ahead and boo hoo about how you dont live in an idyllic world, cause you dont. You live in this world, and the rest of us arent putting up with any more bad faith bullshit.



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helIy
08/11/21 9:38:22 AM
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i wonder if these morons get upset when a store asks to see their id

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BEERandWEED
08/11/21 9:51:43 AM
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Clearly, some people like living in a police state with totalitarian overlords.
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Mead
08/11/21 9:57:28 AM
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BEERandWEED posted...
Clearly, some people like living in a police state with totalitarian overlords.

Ill take it over what we have now. 1/6 was the last straw.

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BEERandWEED
08/11/21 10:03:55 AM
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Mead posted...
Ill take it over what we have now. 1/6 was the last straw.
Umm, requiring papers isn't better.
1/6 what?

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helIy
08/11/21 10:04:36 AM
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BEERandWEED posted...
Clearly, some people like living in a police state with totalitarian overlords.
so do you show your id when they ask you when buying alcohol or weed

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Nichtcrawler X
08/11/21 10:10:25 AM
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DANTE20XX posted...
As long as we don't need an id to vote, sure!

Nothing wrong about requiring some form of id to vote.

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adjl
08/11/21 10:13:11 AM
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BEERandWEED posted...
Clearly, some people like living in a police state with totalitarian overlords.

Remember when the right made a habit of criticizing liberals for comparing everything they don't like to Nazis? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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BEERandWEED
08/11/21 10:14:39 AM
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helIy posted...
so do you show your id when they ask you when buying alcohol or weed
No. And that isn't the same at all.

Soon, they'll be calling for papers to leave your house.
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adjl
08/11/21 10:16:25 AM
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BEERandWEED posted...
No. And that isn't the same at all.

It's requiring you to show evidence that you are qualified to access that service. That's fundamentally identical to asking for proof of vaccination before letting you in.

BEERandWEED posted...
Soon, they'll be calling for papers to leave your house.

Riiiiight...

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helIy
08/11/21 10:18:09 AM
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BEERandWEED posted...
No. And that isn't the same at all.


please elaborate on how it's different


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Nichtcrawler X
08/11/21 10:18:43 AM
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BEERandWEED posted...
Soon, they'll be calling for papers to leave your house.

That is also a function of id.

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BEERandWEED
08/11/21 10:27:34 AM
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adjl posted...
Remember when the right made a habit of criticizing liberals for comparing everything they don't like to Nazis? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Assuming my political leanings is your first fallacy.

Americans have been working hard to remove discrimination and this is a giant leap backwards.
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BEERandWEED
08/11/21 10:29:45 AM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
That is also a function of id.
I can go months without showing anyone my id. So it's not really.
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Nichtcrawler X
08/11/21 10:31:21 AM
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BEERandWEED posted...
I can go months without showing anyone my id. So it's not really.

Still a legal requirement to be able to identify yourself in public to someone of authority (and they have a proper reason to ask for it).

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BEERandWEED
08/11/21 10:31:32 AM
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helIy posted...
please elaborate on how it's different
None of my ids show my private health information.
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helIy
08/11/21 11:36:10 AM
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a vaccination record isn't private health information

moreover, the same argument could be used for: your id shows your private residence, your birthday, your height, weight, eye color, ect.

it shows far more personal private information than a card that says you have been vaccinated for x.

and then the argument falls apart because all of that information, including your vaccination records, are generally considered public information simply by virtue of public records that anyone and everyone is allowed to access.

but all that is besides the point. your argument is that having to show a vaccination record is allowing a totalarian state to happen, despite the fact that you carry around, and have seemingly no issue with showing, a literal identification card. all the government needs is a picture of you and they have records of everywhere you have ever lived, every vehicle you've ever had, every loan you've might've had, every credit and debit card, every bank, ect, you have ever had.

if the government wanted to switch to a military/totalian state, there's absolutely nothing stopping them from doing so, and in fact they've already attempted it on january 6th, 2021.

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Blighboy
08/11/21 11:40:33 AM
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Vaccine passport is basically the bare minimum that should be done.

When the next pandemic hits, if it's worse than covid and resistant to vaccines (likely), we will be in the situation where really powerful enforcement measures are necessary to curb the spread. Restricted travel, mandatory quarantines, etc. Not this pussy shit the US has been doing for a year and a half.

Countries that establish precedent on how to handle a pandemic now, including establishing rules and limitations on governmental powers, will do way better than those that are just ignoring it.

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helIy
08/11/21 11:41:49 AM
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a vaccine passport is already required when traveling to other countries, actually

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adjl
08/11/21 11:58:42 AM
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BEERandWEED posted...
Assuming my political leanings is your first fallacy.

I'm not really assuming anything about you personally. Just speaking generally.

BEERandWEED posted...
I can go months without showing anyone my id. So it's not really.

Only if you choose not to access services that require it. Similarly, if you didn't want to show anyone your vaccination record, you could choose not to access services that require it.

BEERandWEED posted...
None of my ids show my private health information.

Your DoB and address are significantly easier to abuse than your vaccination status. Concerns about "private health information" really only apply to the sorts of things that might cause damages or embarrassment if they were leaked. HIPAA applies uniformly because it's a lot more practical to just apply regulations to all health information instead of trying to specify all kinds of exceptions, but in practice, disclosing your vaccination status is only going to cause you problems if you're not vaccinated. That's not something you'll be doing to get into any place that requires proof of vaccination (since there's very little point in walking up to a store and saying "you won't let me in"), so I think it's pretty safe to consider that point moot.

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Mead
08/11/21 3:23:33 PM
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If you are choosing without a good reason to not be vaccinated, then YOU are a threat to public health. The rest of us are really losing patience considering how rapidly the virus is spreading through the unvaccinated communities.

Spanish flu ended in 15 months with mask use alone. This is fucking embarrassing. How many more children need to be in the ICU on a ventilator before you people splash water on your face and wake up to the real world?

There are going to start being some real consequences for your choices, because right now people who CANT get the vaccine are suffering and dying. If you dont care about them, why should ANYONE care about you?

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SunWuKung420
08/11/21 4:59:05 PM
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All of those willing to give up rights for the illusion of safety is sad.

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Zareth
08/11/21 5:02:21 PM
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Oh no, they want to force us to get vaccines to protect the vulnerable members of our community, we are just like the Jews in Nazi Germany, so oppressed.

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Zareth
08/11/21 5:03:13 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
All of those willing to give up rights for the illusion of safety is sad.
This is the fucking dumbest saying. I'm perfectly willing to give up my right to murder people for the safety of not being murdered.

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SunWuKung420
08/11/21 5:08:17 PM
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Zareth posted...
This is the fucking dumbest saying. I'm perfectly willing to give up my right to murder people for the safety of not being murdered.
The fact you keep calling it "murder" shows how entrenched in a false rhetoric you truly are.

Even vaccinated people can still transmit covid. Lol

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Mead
08/11/21 5:35:47 PM
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The mods need to step up and start doing their job regarding covid misinformation and transparent trolling regarding the pandemic. It is doing real harm and that is on you.

@sballen

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SunWuKung420
08/11/21 5:43:21 PM
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Zareth posted...
Oh no, they want to force us to get vaccines to protect the vulnerable members of our community, we are just like the Jews in Nazi Germany, so oppressed.
I never said anything about vaccines. I'm merely speaking on the insanity that is having papers despite still being a transmission vector.

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Zareth
08/11/21 5:53:59 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
The fact you keep calling it "murder" shows how entrenched in a false rhetoric you truly are.
First of all, I was just speaking about the phrase in general, not relating to Covid or vaccines.
Second of all, this is the first time I've ever said anything to you about "murder."

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adjl
08/11/21 6:21:22 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
All of those willing to give up rights for the illusion of safety is sad.

What rights are being given up?

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Mead
08/11/21 6:35:24 PM
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I encourage everyone to mark SunWus posts and provide context in the notes regarding all the pandemic trolling he has been doing on potd

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/10-ask-the-mods/79609458

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Clench281
08/11/21 6:39:21 PM
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Yes, all this misinformation trolling has us in quite a cucumber.

(I say cucumber instead of pickle because according to sunny, there is no need to differentiate between brined and unbrined things. They are the same.)

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adjl
08/11/21 6:41:13 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Yes, all this misinformation trolling has us in quite a cucumber.

(I say cucumber instead of pickle because according to sunny, there is no need to differentiate between brined and unbrined things. They are the same.)

Nah, Sunny would still call it a pickle, it'd just be a cucumber with some salt sprinkled on it.

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Clench281
08/11/21 6:43:23 PM
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Or would they both be pickles? Even a fresh cucumber?

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adjl
08/11/21 6:44:20 PM
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That's the other possibility.

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SunWuKung420
08/11/21 7:08:07 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Yes, all this misinformation trolling has us in quite a cucumber.

(I say cucumber instead of pickle because according to sunny, there is no need to differentiate between brined and unbrined things. They are the same.)
Please tell me when I said that. You can't.

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SunWuKung420
08/11/21 7:09:00 PM
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adjl posted...
What rights are being given up?
The right to walk into a place without showing useless papers.

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Gaawa_chan
08/11/21 7:26:04 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
The right to walk into a place without showing useless papers.
You must hate needing ID, then.

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SunWuKung420
08/11/21 7:28:49 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
You must hate needing ID, then.
You don't need an ID to go into 99% of all places.

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VeeVees
08/11/21 7:32:47 PM
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Antivaxxers should be isolated from society.

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adjl
08/11/21 9:55:53 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
The right to walk into a place without showing useless papers.

You've never had that right. It's always been the case that you can be prohibited from entering a private establishment if you don't meet whatever criteria they set.

SunWuKung420 posted...
Please tell me when I said that. You can't.

He's referring to that time you tried to call beef that had not been corned "corned beef."

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helIy
08/12/21 1:12:11 PM
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i had to look that up



lmao what an idiot

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Mead
08/12/21 1:28:01 PM
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Corned beef can be good but if I have a brisket Im gonna slow smoke it all day, not boil it lol

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adjl
08/12/21 1:32:02 PM
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If memory serves, he'd done a corned beef pizza for St Patrick's day. It did actually sound good, and his approach to it makes sense (as does using a brisket for it), but his insistence that he wasn't taking considerable liberties with the concept of "corned beef" was very much classic Sunny.

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