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Antifar
08/03/21 10:07:19 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/nyregion/nyc-vaccine-mandate.html

Mayor Bill de Blasio plans to announce Tuesday morning that New York City will require proof of vaccination for people participating in indoor activities, including at restaurants, gyms and performances, his latest attempt to spur more vaccinations, according to a city official.

The policy is similar to mandates issued in France and Italy last month and is believed to be the first of its kind in the United States.

The program will start later this month, and after a transition period enforcement will begin in mid-September, when schools are expected to reopen and more workers could return to offices in Manhattan.

Mr. de Blasio has been moving aggressively to get more New Yorkers vaccinated to curtail a third wave of coronavirus cases. He is requiring city workers to get vaccinated or to face weekly testing, and he has offered a $100 incentive for the public.

About 66 percent of adults in the city are fully vaccinated, according to official data, although pockets of the city have low rates.

Mr. de Blasio has been reluctant to reinstate an indoor mask mandate like those in some other large urban areas, including Los Angeles County, San Francisco and Washington. He encouraged New Yorkers to wear masks indoors on Monday and received criticism for not requiring them.

As part of the new program, New York City will create a health pass called the Key to NYC Pass to provide proof of vaccination required for workers and customers at indoor dining, gyms, entertainment and performances.

In France, people will soon have to show a health pass providing proof of vaccination or a recent negative test to visit indoor bars, restaurants and gyms. It has already been implemented at amusement parks, theaters and venues hosting more than 50 people. In New York City, proof of vaccination will be required and there will be no testing option.

The restrictions in France prompted millions of people to book vaccine appointments and also sparked a series of protests among people who said it infringed on their personal liberties.

Mr. de Blasio has said that he wants to encourage New Yorkers to get vaccinated if they want to enjoy city life.

We think it is so important to make clear that if you are vaccinated, you get to benefit in all sorts of ways, Mr. de Blasio said on Monday in an interview on NY1. You get to live a better life. Besides your health in general, you get to participate in many, many things. And if youre unvaccinated, they are going to be fewer and fewer things that youre able to do.

New Yorkers will be able to continue to dine outdoors without showing proof of vaccination. To enter indoor venues, they must use the citys new digital app, the states Excelsior app or a paper card to show proof of vaccination.


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Houston
08/03/21 10:39:25 AM
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Very, very dangerous precedent.

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DeadBankerDream
08/03/21 10:40:23 AM
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Houston posted...
Very, very dangerous precedent.
Aren't you a political troglodyte person?

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Wedge Antilles
08/03/21 10:48:53 AM
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Good

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Cuticrusader09
08/03/21 10:49:04 AM
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What are the pockets of unvaccinated? One is probably the Hasidic Jews because Im pretty sure they dont go for vaccines period. Pretty sure this wont change their stance.
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shiby with it
08/03/21 10:50:46 AM
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Freedom > Safety

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Questionmarktarius
08/03/21 10:51:41 AM
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Houston posted...
Very, very dangerous precedent.
Is it?
Public schools have been doing this essentially forever.

Of course, the biggest beneficiaries are going to be Yonkers and East Rutherford.
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ChopinList
08/03/21 10:52:02 AM
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Good this should motivate more to get vaccinated as the unvaxxed get banned from places.

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Compsognathus
08/03/21 10:53:28 AM
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Good. I hope Kansas City where I live follows their lead.

Also I would like for maybe a better, more wallet size vaccine card that isn't just made of stiff paper.

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justaguy3492
08/03/21 10:55:48 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
Also I would like for maybe a better, more wallet size vaccine card that isn't just made of stiff paper.

Yeah I'm all for requiring proof, but it'd be nice if it was better than that card. I've had mine in my wallet since March and it's starting to look a little rough.

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bigblu89
08/03/21 10:59:48 AM
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justaguy3492 posted...
Yeah I'm all for requiring proof, but it'd be nice if it was better than that card. I've had mine in my wallet since March and it's starting to look a little rough.
NY has an app where you can upload your proof of vaccination.

Other states should follow suit.

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Questionmarktarius
08/03/21 11:02:10 AM
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bigblu89 posted...
NY has an app where you can upload your proof of vaccination.
"Download the app to..." is an automatic nope for me.
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voldothegr8
08/03/21 11:03:15 AM
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How are they going to enforce that?
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Collat
08/03/21 11:03:40 AM
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Good.

I wouldn't want unvaccinated weirdos using the same gym equipment as me.

Wouldn't surprise me if some of them don't believe in wiping them off after either.
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brestugo
08/03/21 11:05:43 AM
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bigblu89 posted...
NY has an app where you can upload your proof of vaccination.

Other states should follow suit.
CA has one too. Going to be linked to all others elsewhere on the globe through a QR code.

The website is a mess though.

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brestugo
08/03/21 11:08:20 AM
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Collat posted...
Good.

I wouldn't want unvaccinated weirdos using the same gym equipment as me.

Wouldn't surprise me if some of them don't believe in wiping them off after either.
I genuinely do not want to be around the willfully unvaxxed. There is no financial, gender, racial, sexual orientation or other barrier to getting the shot. It's in no way shape or form discrimination.

There is no right to infect others.

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RedJackson
08/03/21 11:10:45 AM
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Houston posted...
Very, very dangerous precedent.

Who cares?


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Lathissamus
08/03/21 11:11:39 AM
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Questionmarktarius
08/03/21 11:12:03 AM
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RedJackson posted...
Who cares?
"I'm scared!! Autocracy please!" is also a very dangerous precedent.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/03/21 11:15:33 AM
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*Tucker voice*

"what is this, Jim Crow? imagine if the sign said Whites only. that's exactly what this is. Leftist Jim Crow! can they not see the irony?"
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bigblu89
08/03/21 11:16:18 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
How are they going to enforce that?
For New York, at least, My guess is checking vaxx cards or the NYS Excelsior Pass (the app I mentioned above).

When I went to one of the Islanders playoff games, and they had vaccinated and unvaccinated sections, you had to show your proof of vaccination if you had a ticket on the "vaccinated side".

My guess is you'll have to do the same at a restaurant, Broadway show, Concert, etc.

I know all events at MSG are for vaccinated only ticket holders.

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brestugo
08/03/21 11:16:50 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
"I'm scared!! Autocracy please!" is also a very dangerous precedent.
George Washington required small pox vaxxes. Requiring measures for public health goes back to day one in the U.S. and is by no measure autocracy.

You're the one scared - that what you think you know is inadequate.

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bigblu89
08/03/21 11:17:03 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
"Download the app to..." is an automatic nope for me.
So you have no apps on your phone?

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Dark_SilverX
08/03/21 11:19:53 AM
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there is also a burger element to this

https://youtu.be/tSrklAa0qp0

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RedJackson
08/03/21 11:20:03 AM
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brestugo posted...
George Washington required small pox vaxxes. Requiring measures for public health goes back to day one and is by no measure autocracy.

You're the one scared - that what you think you know is inadequate.

George Washington is dead, who gives a fuck about George Washington except George Washington Jr. who sings the hit song Just The Two of Us and might care about George Washington

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SK8T3R215
08/03/21 11:22:35 AM
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I was about to delete the Excelsior app yesterday lol.

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UnfairRepresent
08/03/21 11:23:44 AM
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How does this work?

I'm vaccinated but I have no proof

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3PiesAndAFork
08/03/21 11:23:47 AM
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The entire world should follow their lead in this. Fuck the trumpers, they can either get vaccinated or stay home.

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SK8T3R215
08/03/21 11:24:24 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
How does this work?

I'm vaccinated but I have no proof

You can put your info in the app and they'll find you in the database to confirm it.

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brestugo
08/03/21 11:24:28 AM
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RedJackson posted...
George Washington is dead, who gives a fuck about George Washington except George Washington Jr. who sings the hit song Just The Two of Us and might care about George Washington
I get that the average American reads at the 7th grade level but even given that, this is pathetic.

If the first American president required vaccines, requiring them (and proof thereof) is not a dangerous precedent in 2021.

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Dark_SilverX
08/03/21 11:25:49 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
How does this work?

I'm vaccinated but I have no proof
gotta get another shot

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whitelytning
08/03/21 11:26:22 AM
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Fair, next.

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3PiesAndAFork
08/03/21 11:27:29 AM
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brestugo posted...
I get that the average American reads at the 7th grade level but even given that, this is pathetic.

If the first American president required vaccines, requiring them (and proof thereof) is not a dangerous precedent in 2021.
That's an insult to 7th graders.

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brestugo
08/03/21 11:29:58 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
How does this work?

I'm vaccinated but I have no proof
The place you got vaxxed can issue you another card. They have access to the CDC database.

Next, check with your state's department of health to see if they have a digital vaccine record program (they're avoiding the 'vaccine passport' term). AFAIK only NY and CA have these, but they will eventually link up to verification programs across the globe.

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brestugo
08/03/21 11:30:33 AM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
That's an insult to 7th graders.
It's true though. Unfortunately.

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One_Day_Remains
08/03/21 11:32:19 AM
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Houston posted...
Very, very dangerous precedent.


How
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LightHawKnight
08/03/21 11:33:43 AM
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Good.

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UnfairRepresent
08/03/21 11:34:38 AM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
You can put your info in the app and they'll find you in the database to confirm it.
But I was vaxxed In the UK

so if I go to NYC in September , will they find it?


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shiby with it
08/03/21 11:38:50 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
But I was vaxxed In the UK

so if I go to NYC in September , will they find it?
Probably. This whole thing is being exploited by globalists.

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One_Day_Remains
08/03/21 11:39:57 AM
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I would really like to know how this is supposedly a "dangerous precedent" in a country where we have to carry ID around
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brestugo
08/03/21 11:40:07 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
But I was vaxxed In the UK

so if I go to NYC in September , will they find it?
email the NY/NYC department of health and ask what their proof requirements are.

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Antifar
08/03/21 11:40:20 AM
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shiby with it posted...
This whole thing is being exploited by globalists.
How so?

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brestugo
08/03/21 11:41:18 AM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
I would really like to know how this is supposedly a "dangerous precedent" in a country where we have to carry ID around
And your cellphone can be used to locate you within less than a block.

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UnfairRepresent
08/03/21 11:42:24 AM
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shiby with it posted...
Probably. This whole thing is being exploited by globalists.
I guess it must be recorded somewhere otherwise how do airlines measure it

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brestugo
08/03/21 11:43:15 AM
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shiby with it posted...
Probably. This whole thing is being exploited by globalists.
I nominate this post for the Steve Bannon award for idiocy.

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MrDrMan
08/03/21 11:52:56 AM
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https://abcnews.go.com/Business/google-joins-growing-list-employers-mandating-covid-19/story?id=79120671

Lot of companies are beginning to mandate for employees. Google, Disney, Uber, Tyson foods, Facebook, Washington Post, Delta.

Compsognathus posted...
Good. I hope Kansas City where I live follows their lead.

Also I would like for maybe a better, more wallet size vaccine card that isn't just made of stiff paper.

Hamburger Marys, Woodys and a few other local businesses are beginning to require. It wont be long I think.

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Kolibri X
08/03/21 11:54:43 AM
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Houston posted...
Very, very dangerous precedent.

It will get worse if people let them do this. Another group of people they want to exclude from society. History repeats.

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whitelytning
08/03/21 11:55:54 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
It will get worse if people let them do this. Another group of people they want to exclude from society. History repeats.

Nope.

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Questionmarktarius
08/03/21 11:56:10 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
Another group of people they want to exclude from society.
I dunno. May get a rural revival out of this.
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