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This was amusingly accurate.

Lela from Futurama wasn't toxic.

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catboy posted...

Lela from Futurama wasn't toxic.

Yes she was. Until that space bee episode where she realized she treated Fry like shit. To be fair, Fry was an idiot though.

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Hate how being a strong woman is acting like an alpha male man

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catboy posted...

Lela from Futurama wasn't toxic.

Lmao nice one

WingsOfGood posted...

Lmao nice one

I liked her anyway

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Imagine complaining more about this than the actual examples of toxic male characters that are literally in all media

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I like strong independent women characters like Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner, Holly McClaine, etc.

I.e ones that were strong, or dug deep and found their strength without beating you over the head with it.

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HairyQueen posted...

Imagine complaining more about this than the actual examples of toxic male characters that are literally in all media

Toxic Male protagonists are a thing of the past though. The future is female.

HairyQueen posted...

Imagine complaining more about this than the actual examples of toxic male characters that are literally in all media

Imagine resorting to deflection.

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dave_is_slick posted...

Imagine resorting to deflection.

Explain why you think my post was deflecting.

WingsOfGood posted...

Toxic Male protagonists are a thing of the past though.

If only you were right about that


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HairyQueen posted...

Explain why you think my post was deflecting.

Because that's literally what it was.

Like, you didn't respond to the point at all. You just went 'b-b-but toxic male characters'.

Even if you have a point, not saying you do or don't, but it doesn't address the issue. You're just saying another issue exists, which is deflecting.
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...

Yes she was. Until that space bee episode where she realized she treated Fry like shit. To be fair, Fry was an idiot though.

Everyone treated Fry like shit. Leela only developed feelings for Fry, after he almost dies trying to save her life. Relationships built on that kind of drama never last.

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Slayer_22 posted...

Because that's literally what it was.

Like, you didn't respond to the point at all. You just went 'b-b-but toxic male characters'.

Even if you have a point, not saying you do or don't, but it doesn't address the issue. You're just saying another issue exists, which is deflecting.

So you don't know what deflecting is. Not surprising at all coming from you tbh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

I'm criticizing the OP for being an absolute joke. It's a non-issue, so of course you'd defend it lmao.

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HairyQueen posted...

So you don't know what deflecting is. Not surprising at all coming from you tbh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

I'm criticizing the OP for being an absolute joke. It's a non-issue, so of course you'd defend it lmao.

How is something uber accurate a joke?

WingsOfGood posted...

How is something uber accurate a joke?

Oh I'm saying it's a joke as in it's a non-issue and a joke to be upset about it. *shrug*

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refmon posted...

Hate how being a strong woman is acting like an alpha male man

Thats the dilemma.

Acting like a so-called Alpha male is promoting toxic masculinity.

Acting like a traditional feminine woman is supporting toxic masculinity.

What to do?

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That post could get modded for spoilers.

Anyway, I think the Teela hatred is overhyped.

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Thats the dilemma.

Acting like a so-called Alpha male is promoting toxic masculinity.

Acting like a traditional feminine woman is supporting toxic masculinity.

What to do?

I think more than an absolute truth its just lack of talent And imaginative writing in Hollywood

HairyQueen posted...

So you don't know what deflecting is. Not surprising at all coming from you tbh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

I'm criticizing the OP for being an absolute joke. It's a non-issue, so of course you'd defend it lmao.

First off, I don't know who you are. Are you an alt? Suspended/warned/banned recently? It's weird talking to someone who knows me but I don't share the same pleasure.

And no, that's not deflecting. It's the literal definition of deflecting that I'm referring to.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deflection

Definition of deflection
1: a turning aside or off course : DEVIATION

You deflected the argument, turned it onto another course. That is literally what happened.

But, I'm sure your wikipedia article and it's 0 mention of the word deflect or any variation of it is more reliable than the dictionary most people use these days.
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ITT: women shouldn't have muscles.

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FortuneCookie posted...

That post could get modded for spoilers.

Anyway, I think the Teela hatred is overhyped.

Who?

Y'all for real fussin over this crap

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WingsOfGood posted...

Who?

You mean this isn't about Masters of the Universe?

Some of the loudest voices about this are people (not speaking about the TC) who are very anti anything progressive. Meaning women in general. So I don't want to give my full support to it. But it is true .

Look at Abby for example. And Teela , she yelled at parents right after their son "died " Right after everyone was telling her how great she was. Look at Carol Danvers she went for a good nature person who would tell someone off if they needed to. To someone who arrest people before they do crimes.

Oddly one of the only people to escape this in recent years is Rey. And that is because they throw away her own story and made her all about fucking kylo.


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Still the champions:

Slayer_22 posted...

First off, I don't know who you are. Are you an alt? Suspended/warned/banned recently? It's weird talking to someone who knows me but I don't share the same pleasure.

And no, that's not deflecting. It's the literal definition of deflecting that I'm referring to.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deflection

You deflected the argument, turned it onto another course. That is literally what happened.

But, I'm sure your wikipedia article and it's 0 mention of the word deflect or any variation of it is more reliable than the dictionary most people use these days.

Nah I just recognize users known for shitposting.

Regarding your failure to understand synonymous terms, deflection literally is referring to a psychological defense mechanism of shifting blame away from yourself or your group, whereas I have no horse in this race and I'm offering criticism of the premise itself. Otherwise any time you bring up something else in a discussion would be called deflection.

https://www.restorationstherapy.com/deflection-a-defensive-tactic/
https://www.bricefoundation.org/single-post/2019/06/04/psychological-deflection

The problem with getting upset about this is that it ignores the underlying problem (actual toxic masculinity). When someone calls you out on ignoring the root of the issue and you get upset that you got called out, calling it deflection shows how disingenuous you are when acting like you really care about the problem.

Usually the disingenuous actor's playbook goes like this:
Step 1: *accuses critics of deflecting*
Step 2: *doubles down*
Step 3: *ad homs*

You're on step 2 now.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Still the champions:

<3

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Gamers get mad about Women with muscles thread #5295968302

cjsdowg posted...

Some of the loudest voices about this are people (not speaking about the TC) who are very anti anything progressive. Meaning women in general. So I don't want to give my full support to it. But it is true .

Look at Abby for example. And Teela , she yelled at parents right after their son "died " Right after everyone was telling her how great she was. Look at Carol Danvers she went for a good nature person who would tell someone off if they needed to. To someone who arrest people before they do crimes.

Oddly one of the only people to escape this in recent years is Rey. And that is because they throw away her own story and made her all about fucking kylo.

Rey did not escape hate.

She might not get as much as some of the other women, but she still got it. Maybe it's because people were more distracted by the other problems going on -- like beloved characters getting ruined and territorial pissings over what was or was not canon.

HairyQueen posted...

Nah I just recognize users known for shitposting.

Regarding your failure to understand synonymous terms, deflection literally is referring to a psychological defense mechanism of shifting blame away from yourself or your group, whereas I have no horse in this race and I'm offering criticism of the premise itself. Otherwise any time you bring up something else in a discussion would be called deflection.

https://www.restorationstherapy.com/deflection-a-defensive-tactic/
https://www.bricefoundation.org/single-post/2019/06/04/psychological-deflection

The problem with getting upset about this is that it ignores the underlying problem (actual toxic masculinity). When someone calls you out on ignoring the root of the issue and you get upset that you got called out, calling it deflection shows how disingenuous you are when acting like you really care about the problem.

Usually the disingenuous actor's playbook goes like this:
Step 1: *accuses critics of deflecting*
Step 2: *doubles down*
Step 3: *ad homs*

You're on step 2 now.

Ooooh, FlameTurtle, alright. Back from your banning already, eh?

Call it what you will, but I wasn't referring to that. I was referring to a deflection of the argument. Because, by the ACTUAL DEFINITION, that is deflection.

And I don't care about the problem. I never did. I just posted to say you were deflecting, which you did.

Twist it into any psychological term you want, because it's not the term I was using. Lol.
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Slayer_22 posted...

Ooooh, FlameTurtle, alright. Back from your banning already, eh?

Call it what you will, but I wasn't referring to that. I was referring to a deflection of the argument. Because, by the ACTUAL DEFINITION, that is deflection.

And I don't care about the problem. I never did. I just posted to say you were deflecting, which you did.

Twist it into any psychological term you want, because it's not the term I was using. Lol.

Nope, never interacted with you before.

Falling back on pedantism to disguise your misunderstanding isn't the best look tbh. Imagine thinking this is a sensible exchange:

Person A: "Why is <insert minority group> behaving like this? Isn't that awful?"
Person B: "Why not address the underlying problem that led to this situation?"
Person A: "Stop deflecting!"


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HairyQueen posted...

Nope, never interacted with you before.

Falling back on pedantism to disguise your misunderstanding isn't the best look tbh. Imagine thinking this is a sensible exchange:

Person A: "Why is <insert minority group> behaving like this? Isn't that awful?"
Person B: "Why not address the underlying problem that led to this situation?"
Person A: "Stop deflecting!"

Why the hell are you bringing up minorities? Good lord, you are arguing in bad faith here. We're just talking about fictional characters, wtf?

We literally had a misunderstanding on the meaning of the word. I am right in my way,, you are right in yours.. That's it. Lol. The hell is wrong with you, FlameTurtle? Calm down, take a chill pill.
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Slayer_22 posted...

Why the hell are you bringing up minorities? Good lord, you are arguing in bad faith here. We're just talking about fictional characters, wtf?

We literally had a misunderstanding on the meaning of the word. I am right in my way,, you are right in yours.. That's it. Lol. The hell is wrong with you, FlameTurtle? Calm down, take a chill pill.

Lol I accept your surrender.

Also, not Flameturtle, but kinda wish I was right now. They seem to have triggered you permanently lmao

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HairyQueen posted...

Lol I accept your surrender.

Also, not Flameturtle, but kinda wish I was right now. They seem to have triggered you permanently lmao

Sounds like you were the one triggered in your posts, FlameTurtle. And the fact that you're taking pride in FlameTurtle's assumed accolades speaks plenty. No need to hide, just be honest with who you are, FT. <3
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Slayer_22 posted...

Sounds like you were the one triggered in your posts, FlameTurtle. And the fact that you're taking pride in FlameTurtle's assumed accolades speaks plenty. No need to hide, just be honest with who you are, FT. <3

Slayer_22 right now:


Again, I'm not that user. You already admitted defeat as well and your posts are pure desperation at this point, so peace out, brotha

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Background_Guy posted...

Gamers get mad about Women with muscles thread #5295968302

Kisai posted...

ITT: women shouldn't have muscles.

Basically this

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I don't really have a comment to make, outside of the fact it's super amusing to me how some dudes on the internet get so triggered by the hair cut.

Also, Teela is 100% going to become more traditionally heroic in the next part of Revelations.

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Funcoland posted...

Also, Teela is 100% going to become more traditionally heroic in the next part of Revelations.

The Teela/Evil-Lyn ship better fucking happen. It's been teased since 1983.

HairyQueen posted...

Slayer_22 right now:

Again, I'm not that user. You already admitted defeat as well and your posts are pure desperation at this point, so peace out, brotha

Pure desperation? Unlike you, I admit fault when I made it, FlameTurtle. I was thinking it was about deflection, you were thinking it was the psychological deflection. You also linked a Wikipedia article, which is laughable. This isn't 4th grade social studies, you can't get away with that shit lol.

But keep denying it, FT. I'm sure that'll work out fine.
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Funcoland posted...

I don't really have a comment to make, outside of the fact it's super amusing to me how some dudes on the internet get so triggered by the hair cut.

It's always the same types complaining about this too

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HairyQueen posted...

It's always the same types complaining about this too

Usually the types who wish America was like "the good old days" of the 1950's, when women were confined to the kitchen and not allowed to talk.

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mybbqrules posted...

I like strong independent women characters like Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner, Holly McClaine, etc.

I.e ones that were strong, or dug deep and found their strength without beating you over the head with it.

This all day.

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Ryven posted...

This all day.

I still hate how dirty they did Connor.

She's still great, I just hate how they brought her back and put her in a bad movie. Even if she and Arnie were the best parts.
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It was a decent movie. It's just... the opening scene should not have happened.

You can introduce a new hero without doing that.

Isn't that just some sort of punk haircut from the 90s?

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Respect women

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