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DJquackquack
07/27/21 10:59:06 AM
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Penny for your thoughts?

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Xethuminra
07/27/21 10:59:26 AM
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Penny for yours
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ModLogic
07/27/21 10:59:27 AM
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ncsonic
07/27/21 10:59:42 AM
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I have nothing against her. I just don't like that she was caught doing fake death threats against herself.

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DJquackquack
07/27/21 11:01:15 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Penny for yours
Thats not how these topics work, mister. First I ask people about a divisive public figure, and then I watch everything unfold.

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Fazeo13
07/27/21 11:01:48 AM
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Would bang but not call again. And she must take a vow of silence during the deed.
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Garioshi
07/27/21 11:02:12 AM
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She exists

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eston
07/27/21 11:02:32 AM
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action52
07/27/21 11:05:55 AM
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ncsonic posted...
I have nothing against her. I just don't like that she was caught doing fake death threats against herself.
*citation needed

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Were_Wyrm
07/27/21 11:06:27 AM
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I don't think about her.

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Wetterdew
07/27/21 11:06:58 AM
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She did nothing different from what thousands of content creators do today but it triggered so many neckbeards because they don't want to confront sexism.

"She got too much money, she swindled people"
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What she was given is no different from all the content creators today who rake in inordinate money from Patreon to fund their projects, from people who choose to donate.

Neckbeards only complain about her because she did it before everybody had a patreon, and because they don't want to acknowledge sexism

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Graycap
07/27/21 11:07:28 AM
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Dumb for rating games based on how much they didn't sexualize women. Games should be rated on gameplay and sometimes story.
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Doe
07/27/21 11:08:33 AM
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Most people have never actually listened to one of her videos they just spit on her name because they listened to a neckbeard on YouTube or Twitter.

Just look at how Gamers respond to a woman having a prominent role in almost any recent AAA game, or how they claim that any new character/costume design that doesn't strip someone down to pasties is "censorship", or how kicking/banning people for saying racial slurs in game chat or being abusive on mic is "stealing your money" or freedom of speech.

Basically she was right about a lot of what she said.

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Doom_Art
07/27/21 11:08:46 AM
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Made some great points and made neckbeards angry.

She's alright in my book.

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Xethuminra
07/27/21 11:10:04 AM
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Well first of all

Her name really helped me remember Bill Skarsgards


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action52
07/27/21 11:10:36 AM
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Graycap posted...
Dumb for rating games based on how much they didn't sexualize women. Games should be rated on gameplay and sometimes story.
Oh hey, would you list some of the "bad ratings" she gave to games? Specific ones that you think she gave a bad rating to.

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Compsognathus
07/27/21 11:11:19 AM
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I don't think about her at all.

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sabrestorm
07/27/21 11:12:46 AM
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I dont think anything about her, I dont know much about her
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s0nicfan
07/27/21 11:15:18 AM
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She's a grifter that moves from popular thing to popular thing to do surface level analysis and then leaves as soon as the money well dries up. In another era she would be traveling from town to town in a wagon selling cure all potions.

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Ivynn
07/27/21 11:17:01 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
I don't think about her.


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Ivany2008
07/27/21 11:18:57 AM
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Psychopath or Sociopath who makes any progression towards equality go back 10 years. Seriously, fuck her.
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FortuneCookie
07/27/21 11:19:20 AM
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She was playing a character. I bet the real Anita is pretty chill.

In her first few episodes, she had her hair down, brought up some legitimate issues with regards to inequality, and peppered her videos with some comedy. Then she adopted the flannel outfit, started speaking in an authoritarian voice, and brought up intentionally bad examples to troll people.

She's like a lot of people who speak on sensitive subject matters: they galvanize their side by offending people on the other side. It's the same method employed, to varying degree, by the likes of Richard Dawkins, Michael Moore, and the late but unlamented Rush Limbaugh.
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Doom_Art
07/27/21 11:19:37 AM
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Ivany2008 posted...
Psychopath or Sociopath who makes any progression towards equality go back 10 years. Seriously, fuck her.
how do you figure that lol

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IShall_Run_Amok
07/27/21 11:19:45 AM
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I can't be assed to give a shit about sexism in video games, so I've never watched any of her videos, but I've seen one or two videos about the g*mer reaction to her and I'm convinced she's the lesser of two evils.

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EndOfDiscOne
07/27/21 11:21:08 AM
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Don't gaf about her video game stuff, but she can fuck off for this

There's more in that thread but I don't know how to link to a twitter thread

https://twitter.com/anitasarkeesian/status/1412516871039897601?lang=en

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EmbraceOfDeath
07/27/21 11:22:11 AM
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She did a good job scamming a lot of SIMPs out of their money I guess.

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Doe
07/27/21 11:22:50 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Don't gaf about her video game stuff, but she can fuck off for this

There's more in that thread but I don't know how to link to a twitter thread

https://twitter.com/anitasarkeesian/status/1412516871039897601?lang=en
She's exactly right.

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FortuneCookie
07/27/21 11:23:18 AM
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Anybody who thinks she's the reason why female characters in modern video games and animation look ugly is assigning too much importance to her. She has nowhere near that level of influence. She's a symptom of the current environment, not the cause of it.
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MrMallard
07/27/21 11:23:44 AM
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I said this recently and I'll say it again.

The only reason she's as remotely influential to the degree that she has been is because of the stupid fucking chuds who made a game of harassing her. They're the people who made her the face of online feminism. They're the people who shone a spotlight on every little thing she did and put her face on thousands of video thumbnails and her name in thousands of video titles.

Their campaign against her was built on the back of lie after outrageous lie for the sake of pandering to an anti-SJW crowd who had come to see her as the face of the movement, and that in turn led to her taking on a visible role on social media - both to defend herself against the unprecedented wave of harassment and attention she received, and to use what infamy and influence she had gotten to spread her ideals.

Anita Sarkeesian would still have her own fanbase and some degree of popularity without the backlash, but the fact is that she wouldn't be a household name among the terminally online circles who know about her without the Gamergate morons who elevated her to the face of a movement through their behavior. She was targeted because her Kickstarter blew up, sure - for better or for worse she was going to have fans and get attention for what she was doing. But she would never be as relevant as she is today - to the point where topics like this are still popping up on message boards like this - without the gamergaters whose collected disdain for her gave her more of a platform than she ever would have otherwise.

My thoughts on Anita Sarkeesian herself? I don't really care. I don't watch her content, she's not in any of my online media circles, I have no judgements on the content of her character or the content she produces. I understand she fell from grace, and that makes me even less likely to seek her out. I'm not that interested in her as a person.

My thoughts on Anita Sarkeesian as a public figure? The people who hated her the most are the people who made her the most relevant, and I truly believe that the gamergaters who elevated her to such a prominent position despite hating her so much are some of the stupidest motherfuckers on the internet. I fully believe that the proponents of her backlash are the same kinds of people who dropped their Gillette products in the toilet in the wake of that ad, or who (used to) express their discontent with a brand by buying up a bunch of their stock and destroying it on camera as a form of protest. Like, they still got your money and exposure, numbnuts. You're still helping them.

I don't care enough about Anita Sarkeesian as a person or content creator to know or talk much about her. But regardless of whatever the hell her deal is to anyone, I find her fascinating as a public figure, and I doubt I could dislike her more than the people who made her the face of a movement against her will and against the interests of online leftists at the time.

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IShall_Run_Amok
07/27/21 11:27:19 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Don't gaf about her video game stuff, but she can fuck off for this

There's more in that thread but I don't know how to link to a twitter thread

https://twitter.com/anitasarkeesian/status/1412516871039897601?lang=en
I'm not seeing any lies.

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Sad_Face
07/27/21 11:27:56 AM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Some complaints made it clear she only read the game wiki or didn't play the games she was critiquing

Since you mentioned this, I remember how she would get caught using reviewer gameplay footage and claiming as it her own gameplay in her videos. And this is representative of the issue of her complaints and others who followed suit over the years. They want developers to cater to them even though they were never customers or the targeted demographic in the first place.

Men and women have different tastes, and this is well documented. Making an action adventure game better appeal to women than other titles in its genre is an incredibly difficult task. Slapstick solutions like "make a woman protagonist!" or "make strong female characters" don't work.

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Doom_Art
07/27/21 11:29:56 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
why female characters in modern video games and animation look ugly
lol

i can't imagine typing this seriously

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s0nicfan
07/27/21 11:31:28 AM
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Veggeta_MAX
07/27/21 11:31:57 AM
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I fap to deepfakes of her

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EndOfDiscOne
07/27/21 11:32:25 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
I'm not seeing any lies.
She's getting mad at a 3 year article that gives tips on how to reduce your own carbon footprint. All of our choices matter, and the whole "not my responsibility" idea is dangerous. The individuals who think this way, the more it adds up. Same with people deciding not to vote. And consumer demand for green alternatives does affect corporations' decisions. I'm not saying you should yell at the next person you see eating beef, but any switch to alternatives helps.

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creativerealms
07/27/21 11:33:23 AM
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Who?

Note I do know who she is but I can't say I have ever actually thought about her.

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Xethuminra
07/27/21 11:34:39 AM
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Some people in here are just proving her points, very ironically
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Monolith1676
07/27/21 11:42:21 AM
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Everything is sexist, everything is racist and you need to point it all out.

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kawalimus
07/27/21 12:01:17 PM
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I thought her videos were pretty innocuous but the way people flipped the fuck out about them was hilarious. Kind of proved her point in a way and she never even said stuff like "if you like this game you are sexist" iirc
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cjsdowg
07/27/21 12:03:06 PM
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racist con artist, that some people on the left love. She gets more love because sexist people hate her a lot and will address her points with sexism and not logic, thus making it harder for people who just don't like her as person ( and not as women) to be heard.

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Doom_Art
07/27/21 12:13:50 PM
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kawalimus posted...
I thought her videos were pretty innocuous but the way people flipped the fuck out about them was hilarious. Kind of proved her point in a way and she never even said stuff like "if you like this game you are sexist" iirc
the woman had the AUDACITY to point out that sending death threats to YT people and other figures in entertainment isn't normal or healthy behavior.

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Tyranthraxus
07/27/21 12:15:26 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
racist con artist, that some people on the left love. She gets more love because sexist people hate her a lot and will address her points with sexism and not logic, thus making it harder for people who just don't like her as person ( and not as women) to be heard.
What did she do that was racist? I don't usually follow YouTubers

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RickyTheBAWSE
07/27/21 12:15:48 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
07/27/21 12:18:08 PM
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She is a terrible person who is clearly a sexist and hates men.

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yusiko
07/27/21 12:19:04 PM
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here is a pretty good example of how arguments go whenever her name comes up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA

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Proto_Spark
07/27/21 12:20:19 PM
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I thought she just looked at some video games through a feminist lens. Which should be a perfectly valid way of analyzing media (and is necessary if you want video games to be treated like a real art form) but instead of having a reasonable conversation butthurt snowflakes got way too triggered a girl was after their stuff they took it way too far.

MrMallard posted...
I said this recently and I'll say it again.

The only reason she's as remotely influential to the degree that she has been is because of the stupid fucking chuds who made a game of harassing her. They're the people who made her the face of online feminism. They're the people who shone a spotlight on every little thing she did and put her face on thousands of video thumbnails and her name in thousands of video titles.

Their campaign against her was built on the back of lie after outrageous lie for the sake of pandering to an anti-SJW crowd who had come to see her as the face of the movement, and that in turn led to her taking on a visible role on social media - both to defend herself against the unprecedented wave of harassment and attention she received, and to use what infamy and influence she had gotten to spread her ideals.

Anita Sarkeesian would still have her own fanbase and some degree of popularity without the backlash, but the fact is that she wouldn't be a household name among the terminally online circles who know about her without the Gamergate morons who elevated her to the face of a movement through their behavior. She was targeted because her Kickstarter blew up, sure - for better or for worse she was going to have fans and get attention for what she was doing. But she would never be as relevant as she is today - to the point where topics like this are still popping up on message boards like this - without the gamergaters whose collected disdain for her gave her more of a platform than she ever would have otherwise.

My thoughts on Anita Sarkeesian herself? I don't really care. I don't watch her content, she's not in any of my online media circles, I have no judgements on the content of her character or the content she produces. I understand she fell from grace, and that makes me even less likely to seek her out. I'm not that interested in her as a person.

My thoughts on Anita Sarkeesian as a public figure? The people who hated her the most are the people who made her the most relevant, and I truly believe that the gamergaters who elevated her to such a prominent position despite hating her so much are some of the stupidest motherfuckers on the internet. I fully believe that the proponents of her backlash are the same kinds of people who dropped their Gillette products in the toilet in the wake of that ad, or who (used to) express their discontent with a brand by buying up a bunch of their stock and destroying it on camera as a form of protest. Like, they still got your money and exposure, numbnuts. You're still helping them.

I don't care enough about Anita Sarkeesian as a person or content creator to know or talk much about her. But regardless of whatever the hell her deal is to anyone, I find her fascinating as a public figure, and I doubt I could dislike her more than the people who made her the face of a movement against her will and against the interests of online leftists at the time.

This. She never should've become as big a deal as she did. Hate-culture is one of the most toxic things in the world.
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Pitlord_Special
07/27/21 12:26:07 PM
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Shes an incredibly brave woman and worthy of the deepest respect.

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