Poll of the Day > Target removing mask mandate

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/shopping/2021/05/17/target-mask-policy-retailers-not-requiring-masks-fully-vaccinated-cdc/5111030001/

lets go

I'm still wearing a mask when I enter large crowds.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

I'm still wearing a mask when I enter large crowds.

Same. I don't trust people, even counting vaccinations.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

I'm still wearing a mask when I enter large crowds.

Entity13 posted...

Same. I don't trust people, even counting vaccinations.

You're still going to be at significantly higher risk unless you're already vaccinated yourself. The masks have always been better for keeping people from spreading the virus more than they have been protecting you from it.

Personally, I think they dropped the requirement way too early - there are still millions of people who haven't been able to get vaccinated yet (not counting the idiots who are deliberately refusing to), who are potentially getting fucked over by this. In the US alone we've only really vaccinated about 1/3rd of the population (and most people probably aren't going to process the idea that it still takes about two weeks after your last shot to be fully protected, and will take their mask off the day after their shot).

Allowing people to decide on their own recognizance whether or not they're "safe" is a terrible idea, because people in general are stupid and terrible.
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Good. At a certain point everyone that wants to be vaccinated will be. If you still want to wear a mask you are free to do so, but if youre vaccinated you really dont need to.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

You're still going to be at significantly higher risk unless you're already vaccinated yourself. The masks have always been better for keeping people from spreading the virus more than they have been protecting you from it.

Personally, I think they dropped the requirement way too early - there are still millions of people who haven't been able to get vaccinated yet (not counting the idiots who are deliberately refusing to), who are potentially getting fucked over by this. In the US alone we've only really vaccinated about 1/3rd of the population (and most people probably aren't going to process the idea that it still takes about two weeks after your last shot to be fully protected, and will take their mask off the day after their shot).

Allowing people to decide on their own recognizance whether or not they're "safe" is a terrible idea, because people in general are stupid and terrible.

The government cant say we didnt warn you. They gave people ample amount of time to get a vaccine for free. my walgreens is just sitting on stacks of pfizer vaccines and is offering it to any walk ins.

America wasnt made to be shutdown. Biden did his part. Time for the people to start making some plays and get back to work

"I tried to walk into Target, but I missed"
-Mitch Hedberg

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teddy241 posted...

The government cant say we didnt warn you. They gave people ample amount of time to get a vaccine for free.

Not really a valid argument, as there's still plenty of places where shortages exist and people are having trouble getting appointments, let alone walk-ins.

Again, it's kind of shitty policy to arbitrarily decide that we've successfully vaccinated 1/3rd of the population so that's good enough and we can stop giving a shit. Especially when vaccines have only been open to the entire population (as opposed to high-risk or older people) for about the last month or so (if I'd gotten vaccinated the instant I was eligible, I still wouldn't technically be fully protected right now).
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I wonder what plans they have for determining whether or not somebody is vaccinated. Probably none, which is why this is a terrible idea.

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still forced to at work, but I won't wear one as soon as we don't have to. haven't been to any stores near me yet to know if some of them are still forcing it
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Not really a valid argument, as there's still plenty of places where shortages exist and people are having trouble getting appointments, let alone walk-ins.

is that really the case? I thought it was readily available across the US now

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Mead posted...

is that really the case? I thought it was readily available across the US now

I suspect only in places not blocked by politics.

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I just left the cub foods grocery store. I had my mask but the employees did not and there was an old guy who caught wind and he ripped his mask off and said im free!! amen! and danced lol

adjl posted...

I wonder what plans they have for determining whether or not somebody is vaccinated. Probably none, which is why this is a terrible idea.

I don't think you can ask for medical records like that.
The US is awful at a lot of medical stuff, but, medical privacy is a big thing.

Arv cant wait to not wear the mask so people who do can freak out when they see

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shadowsword87 posted...

I don't think you can ask for medical records like that.
The US is awful at a lot of medical stuff, but, medical privacy is a big thing.

I'm sure some sort of legislation will have emerged by the time this is all over and done with to create an exception for it. Of course, by the time such legislation actually comes through, it'll probably be a moot point, but setting some kind of precedent isn't a bad idea.

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adjl posted...

I'm sure some sort of legislation will have emerged by the time this is all over and done with to create an exception for it. Of course, by the time such legislation actually comes through, it'll probably be a moot point, but setting some kind of precedent isn't a bad idea.

Oh sure, but it's also a bad precedent to ignore laws for a rule that's (probably) being worked on.

It is. Really, this whole announcement has been rather thoroughly botched. Legislation should have been in place to handle mask enforcement before it was announced that they weren't needed for certain things anymore. For that matter, legislation should have been prepared for this months ago, since it was blatantly obvious that it was coming eventually.

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$5 says it's a PR move.

Target announcing this? Or the CDC? I'm talking mostly about the CDC saying vaccinated people don't need masks, which I'm sure is scientifically sound (and generally good news, since there had been some question about it), but was announced very irresponsibly due to how people are inevitably going to react to and abuse it. It's a given that major businesses will be updating their policies accordingly, largely erring on the side of letting people go maskless because they know many of their customers have been desperately salivating for this day since the day the masks went on. For Target, yeah, it's a PR move more than anything else.

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shadowsword87 posted...

$5 says it's a PR move.

when youre a big company like that everything is a PR move, so your statement is kinda redundant

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Oh, Target, it'll bring more people in because, from what it sounds like, they're the first major business to withdraw their mask requirement.

shadowsword87 posted...

Oh, Target, it'll bring more people in because, from what it sounds like, they're the first major business to withdraw their mask requirement.

"Target has dropped its mask requirement for fully vaccinated customers, joining with Walmart, Trader Joe's, Starbucks, Costco and other businesses."

First paragraph of the article. They're among the first, certainly, but they're not exactly setting a trend. It's also really a given that, once one major business does it, everyone else will follow suit due to the competitive disadvantage of sticking to the requirement.

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shadowsword87 posted...

Oh, Target, it'll bring more people in because, from what it sounds like, they're the first major business to withdraw their mask requirement.

Did you even read the OP

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No I'm illiterate, pls be nice :(

ParanoidObsessive posted...

You're still going to be at significantly higher risk unless you're already vaccinated yourself. The masks have always been better for keeping people from spreading the virus more than they have been protecting you from it.

Personally, I think they dropped the requirement way too early - there are still millions of people who haven't been able to get vaccinated yet (not counting the idiots who are deliberately refusing to), who are potentially getting fucked over by this. In the US alone we've only really vaccinated about 1/3rd of the population (and most people probably aren't going to process the idea that it still takes about two weeks after your last shot to be fully protected, and will take their mask off the day after their shot).

Allowing people to decide on their own recognizance whether or not they're "safe" is a terrible idea, because people in general are stupid and terrible.

I'm honestly not sure how much the masks did in the first place. The whole thing felt more like "Oh, put this on and you're good to get back to work!" than any real safety measure.

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None of these stores ever enforced it to begin with. Society's entire response to this pandemic has been abysmal.

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faramir77 posted...

None of these stores ever enforced it to begin with.

maybe not where you live

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Mead posted...

maybe not where you live

100% not where I live. Even after it became provincial law, mask wearing never went above 75%. Absolutely embarrassing.

The only store that enforced it was a liquor store.

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Zeus posted...

I'm honestly not sure how much the masks did in the first place.

Fortunately, you're not in charge of any sort of public healthy policy.

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