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blu 05/14/21 5:01:14 PM #1: |
now its not anti-science to not follow CDC guidelines?
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grimhilde00 05/14/21 5:03:02 PM #2: |
There are still other reasons to wear a mask personally. Other diseases besides COVID (this pandemic year was the first year for me since I can remember where I haven't gotten ill with a cough that lasts a couple months). Privacy. They look cool, I have multiple styles that are cute. They keep my face warm when it's cold out.
Also variant breakthrough (though this is showing to be not an issue for hospitalization), immunocompromised, J&J and AZ not super duper effective, etc. I won't judge vaccinated people not wearing a mask now. But people can still wear one to be extra cautious if they want or for other benefits. Anti mask being a problem before was a public health risk. Still wearing a mask isn't a public health risk. So comparing those is a false equivalence. --- aka kriemhilde00 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 05/14/21 5:03:18 PM #3: |
what about people making up their own minds isnt scientific to you?
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Lokarin 05/14/21 5:30:58 PM #4: |
blu posted...
now its not anti-science to not follow CDC guidelines? cuz people are dumb, now that the facts are in people are dumbing in the other direction --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 05/14/21 6:10:33 PM #5: |
It's really only anti-science if you say that science is wrong. Saying that blindly following the science in designing policy is a bad idea is not saying that science is wrong. Just acknowledging that waiting until case numbers get low enough to unvaccinated people to not need masks is going to yield better overall outcomes than trying to implement procedures to figure out who is and is not vaccinated in a public setting.
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CoorsLight 05/14/21 7:21:43 PM #6: |
What, is this topic about them saying vaccinated people don't need masks? I would've thought you're smart enough to not fall for this Ben Shapiro-ass pathetic strawmanning gotcha.
Refusing to wear a mask when they would reduce the spread is going to increase the spread Continuing to wear a mask when they wouldn't reduce the spread is going to increase the non-spread What is non-spread? Exactly, it doesn't make sense. You can't just flip the scenarios and call them equivalent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JOExHIGASHI 05/14/21 7:43:04 PM #7: |
Did cdc say don't wear masks?
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blu 05/14/21 7:49:05 PM #8: |
CoorsLight posted...
Refusing to wear a mask when they would reduce the spread is going to increase the spread Right, of course those are the effects. I personally like masks, but people went from listen to the scientists, wear a mask to dont listen to the scientists, wear a mask. Science shouldnt have an authority, but really not many can do primary research and publications are slow and even then you cant read them all, so listening to an agency like the CDC is the next best thing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JOExHIGASHI 05/14/21 7:51:53 PM #9: |
blu posted...
Right, of course those are the effects. I personally like masks, but people went from listen to the scientists, wear a mask to dont listen to the scientists, wear a mask.Which scientist said don't wear a mask? --- Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 05/14/21 8:18:36 PM #10: |
blu posted...
Right, of course those are the effects. I personally like masks, but people went from Listen to the scientists, wear a mask, to Dont listen to the scientists, wear a mask. We decide whats safe, not the CDC. wear a mask if you want to and dont wear one if you dont its that simple --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blu 05/14/21 8:35:57 PM #11: |
Mead posted...
wear a mask if you want to and dont wear one if you dont It should be, but today I received a flood of emails about anti-science policies from ever-maskers now forcing masks on those who do not need to wear masks according to the CDC. But personally I wish everyone would keep wearing masks, masks coming off made me learn I dont like looking at their faces. I also dont like having to shave often. Im also annoyed that shoe are required places, Id like to go shoeless more often. My feet get washed every day, shoes are a biohazard. But I guess I want shirts left on..idk maybe people should be allowed to go shirtless and itll promote good health. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedOni 05/14/21 8:47:43 PM #12: |
its not anti-science to ignore the cdc. the cdc sucks shit and will lie at the drop of a hat for any reason, just like every other institution of the us government. for example the cdc's claim in march last year that masks werent effective was an obvious lie.
there's plenty of other good reasons to believe that masks are effective at stopping airborne diseases, and that they're way less necessary if youre fully vaccinated. people should definitely wear masks if they're feeling ill though, or in crowded places during flu season --- my mom says people make fun of me because they're jealous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 05/14/21 9:07:33 PM #13: |
blu posted...
It should be, but today I received a flood of emails about anti-science policies from ever-maskers now forcing masks on those who do not need to wear masks according to the CDC. start a trend dude you could change the world --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SKARDAVNELNATE 05/14/21 9:38:58 PM #14: |
blu posted...
now its not anti-science to not follow CDC guidelines?It was never about science. It was always about conforming to the tribe. Mead posted... what about people making up their own minds isnt scientific to you?Until recently letting people make up their own minds went against the science. JOExHIGASHI posted... Did cdc say don't wear masks?No, they said people can stop wearing them. However politicians are saying to ignore the CDC and keep wearing them anyway. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BUMPED2002 05/14/21 9:40:42 PM #15: |
Probably due to the fact that we had several people who denied the pandemic as being as bad as it actually was even as the deaths mounted up there were people pretending the pandemic wasn't as bad as it was so that may have played a role.
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Mead 05/14/21 9:56:25 PM #16: |
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Until recently letting people make up their own minds went against the science. no, it didnt --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 05/14/21 10:00:20 PM #17: |
if everyone acted perfectly, the cdc guidelines would be fine, right now
but the vaccineless and maskless are just gonna get more obnoxious because of the cdc guidelines --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 05/14/21 10:07:26 PM #18: |
I went to the store and everyone is still wearing masks in store, they even had a sign up about it
didnt see many people outside wearing them though. I wore one while shopping but took it off when I got back outside --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 05/14/21 10:08:27 PM #19: |
PunishedOni posted...
for example the cdc's claim in march last year that masks werent effective was an obvious lie.Studies have actually shown that many of the masks people wear are pretty useless. Some are worse than having no mask at all because the masks build up moisture and ends up breaking up droplets into smaller particles that stay in the air longer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 05/14/21 10:14:06 PM #20: |
OhhhJa posted...
Studies have actually shown that many of the masks people wear are pretty useless. Some are worse than having no mask at all because the masks build up moisture and ends up breaking up droplets into smaller particles that stay in the air longer none of that shit has been peer reviewed the only halfway credible info found was that thin synthetic masks like the gaiter masks may not stop many particles, but even that seemed pretty flimsy all you have to do is look at the flu numbers of the last year to see how effective masks have been --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SKARDAVNELNATE 05/14/21 10:15:38 PM #21: |
Mead posted...
no, it didntI know that and you know that but the politicians want us to believe otherwise. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 05/14/21 10:30:09 PM #22: |
Mead posted...
none of that shit has been peer reviewedwish more people realized this was a very important aspect of studies --- https://imgur.com/LabbRyN raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 05/14/21 10:35:10 PM #23: |
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I know that and you know that but the politicians want us to believe otherwise. Are these the politicians that want people to believe the election was stolen? --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 05/14/21 10:39:09 PM #24: |
blu posted...
No, that's not the position at all. The issue is that it's basically impossible to legislate or otherwise enforce "only wear a mask if you're unvaccinated." Nobody's saying vaccinated people aren't safe to go maskless, they're saying that it's unsafe to remove mask mandates from public policy. The science is sound. It's just not practically applicable just yet, and won't be until case numbers are low enough that unvaccinated people won't pose a risk by eschewing masks. OhhhJa posted... Some are worse than having no mask at all because the masks build up moisture and ends up breaking up droplets into smaller particles that stay in the air longer When you break droplets up into smaller particles, they stay in the air for less time, not more. Rate of evaporation is very strongly correlated with surface area:mass ratio, and that ratio goes up the smaller a spheroid gets. This is basic physics, dude. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedOni 05/14/21 10:40:56 PM #25: |
OhhhJa posted...
Studies have actually shownno they havent --- my mom says people make fun of me because they're jealous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 05/14/21 10:42:37 PM #26: |
yeah i uh wanna see a proper study source on that claim, especially on the "makes it worse" part
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SKARDAVNELNATE 05/14/21 10:49:49 PM #27: |
Mead posted...
Are these the politicians that want people to believe the election was stolen?Ever since 2016. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 05/14/21 10:51:23 PM #28: |
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Which republicans thought the 2016 election was stolen? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DANTE20XX 05/14/21 10:59:43 PM #29: |
Revelation34 posted...
Which republicans thought the 2016 election was stolen?lol --- Solid's snake still shoots liquid, it's just that it's null. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 05/14/21 11:06:31 PM #30: |
im reiterating the previous lol
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SKARDAVNELNATE 05/14/21 11:23:30 PM #31: |
Revelation34 posted...
Which republicans thought the 2016 election was stolen?Which republicans are presently telling people to keep wearing masks? --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoorsLight 05/15/21 1:22:25 AM #32: |
blu posted...
Dont listen to the scientists, wear a mask. We decide whats safe, not the CDC. People aren't saying this. People are saying stuff like "I'm still going to wear one anyway" and "This is a dumb decision because there isn't a quick way to tell someone is vaccinated". Nice job making this dumbass topic and bringing out the crazies though ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 05/15/21 1:37:47 AM #33: |
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Ever since 2016. yeah trump did insist that election was unfair --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SKARDAVNELNATE 05/15/21 1:51:03 AM #34: |
Mead posted...
yeah trump did insist that election was unfairBut not stolen. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 05/15/21 2:01:21 AM #35: |
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
But not stolen. So we agree that there havent been any stolen elections lately --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FatalAccident 05/15/21 3:14:21 AM #36: |
That is the ugliest topic title and OP I have ever seen
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kukukupo 05/15/21 7:35:15 AM #37: |
CoorsLight posted...
People aren't saying this. People are saying stuff like "I'm still going to wear one anyway" and "This is a dumb decision because there isn't a quick way to tell someone is vaccinated". Nice job making this dumbass topic and bringing out the crazies though I have seen people saying exactly that. I've also seen people say "I'm still going to wear one anyway" mostly after someone has posted something to the affect of "thank god I can take my mask off", after which they are chastised by friends and want to avoid a political confrontation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 05/15/21 7:47:15 AM #38: |
Masks protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated because the vaccines are totally effective.
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Sarcasthma 05/15/21 9:03:25 AM #39: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Masks protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated because the vaccines are totally effective.Do you have an immunization schedule set for your baby, Sunny? --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SKARDAVNELNATE 05/15/21 10:31:14 AM #40: |
Mead posted...
So we agree that there havent been any stolen elections latelyNo, we agree that the 2016 election wasn't stolen. That has no bearing on other elections not specified in this discussion. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 05/15/21 10:36:27 AM #41: |
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keyblader1985 05/15/21 10:59:41 AM #42: |
Wait; he actually believes 2020 was stolen?
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PunishedOni 05/15/21 11:04:40 AM #43: |
keyblader1985 posted...
Wait; he actually believes 2020 was stolen?yeah skardelate or whatever is a trump lunatic. very thin grip on reality --- my mom says people make fun of me because they're jealous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 05/15/21 11:07:08 AM #44: |
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Sarcasthma 05/15/21 11:11:47 AM #45: |
Wait, do you actually think the 2020 elections were rigged, @SKARDAVNELNATE ?
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PunishedOni 05/15/21 11:13:52 AM #46: |
they also think the great reset is real and joe biden was installed by globalists to destroy the united states
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SKARDAVNELNATE 05/15/21 12:04:16 PM #47: |
Sarcasthma posted...
Wait, do you actually think the 2020 elections were rigged, @SKARDAVNELNATE ?I think we don't have enough information to say since any time the matter was taken before a judge it was met with cowardice and the judges shirked their duty. PunishedOni posted... they also think the great reset is real and joe biden was installed by globalists to destroy the united statesThe world economic forum has stated that is their goal. As for Biden I expect he's just not paying attention and will fail to stand up for American interest as Trump would. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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keyblader1985 05/15/21 12:05:42 PM #48: |
The internet has failed me. I can't find a laughing gif suitable for this particular instance.
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Metalsonic66 05/15/21 12:09:28 PM #49: |
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I think we don't have enough information --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IronBornCorps 05/15/21 12:12:13 PM #50: |
I thought the minds of voters were manipulated with social media platforms in 2016, but the election wasn't rigged or stolen. Then he began the **** show immediately, and people wanted him impeached.
Attempts to rewrite history are always amusing though. If things like hard facts and evidence pointed to election fraud, I would certainly look into them. If they existed, it would of been blasted to every corner of the internet by now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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