Board 8 > Mass Effect Legendary Edition Review Zone

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Is it time to post the "I Love Javik" comics again?

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I had multiple crashes during ME1, but 2 has been smooth outside of one hiccup during Legion's loyalty mission where I had to reload because enemies stopped appearing.

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So the Archangel mission glitched and Garrus was T-posing behind Shepard while he was supposed to be on the ground injured.

I wish I had my capture card going for that.

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Ah fuck it, I think I'll romance Garrus this time.

I always had Shep and Garrus as super bros just broing out, but maybe this time they need to be something more.

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Well shit. Just learned on the Xbox version that if you turn the console off, the game still considers that running and kept the timer going so my 2 hours in is now 25 hours in.

Weirdly didn't do that for ME1.

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Would just test myself but I'm hitting the hay, can you go with no guns? Thi king about doing Biotic Charge/Flare/Nova and nothing else. Worst case I can bust out the lightest long range pistol for those section where enemies are somewhere you can't actually get to.

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Not sure.

Btw, it's kinda amazing how much tougher ME2 is than 1. I've actually managed to die a couple times!

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I died quite a few times in this ME2 run. Even in Normal difficulty, enemies can shred through your shields if you patter around all overconfident (which I do all the time). I may have died more in ME2 Normal than I did in ME1 Insanity.

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The thing with ME2 is that once your shields drop your actual health is an absolute joke. Even as a soldier you should be in full panic mode the second the alarms start ringing because you may very well be fucked.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

The thing with ME2 is that once your shields drop your actual health is an absolute joke. Even as a soldier you should be in full panic mode the second the alarms start ringing because you may very well be fucked.

I feel like this is true more for ME3 than ME2. In ME2 your health can still regenerate. In ME3 it doesn't. Though I only played ME2 on Veteran.

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I have yet to lose my shield in ME3 once and I'm half way through the game.

ME3 on normal is dumb easy mode.

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I lose my shields a lot to those turrets.

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Yeah it's why I never bothered with an ME2 Insanity run, but got pretty far into an ME3 one.

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So uh Benezia isn't supposed to die to a single Throw...right? I think my game bugged out

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I mean yeah, she can.

I think I killed her in like 4 seconds.

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Yeah I got like 30m into Insanity ME2 and stopped, but ME3 was a fun but beatable challenge
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I think some of these trophies are glitched. I didn't get the "Paramour II" trophy despite getting with Liara in both games. Serves me right for choosing flirty dialogue options for every character and then dropping them at the end to stay faithful.

I guess canon Shep is thirstier than that.

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Liara doesn't count for the paramour achievement in 2, both in the original release and in the legendary edition. Believe it had to do with the DLC nature of shadow broker originally.

Yes it's dumb.
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They can give every Thresher Maw extra tentacles and a whole other combat phase but they couldn't fix that?

Also, I just realized that if I romance Garrus, that means I've done every single meaningful romance in the ME trilogy... except Jacob.

RacistShep.

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TheRock1525 posted...

Also, I just realized that if I romance Garrus, that means I've done every single meaningful romance in the ME trilogy... except Jacob.

There's a contradiction here. Jacob isn't a meaningful romance.

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I meant more in the non-Kelly Chambers/James Vega way.

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Jacob the only romance that isn't faithful to you wtf

Me: "Next playthrough, I"m going to Kill Wrex on Virmire. do a TOTAL renegade run. Then sabotage the genophage for the dalatrass.

Me, during Priority: Tuchanka:
Nope, can't do it. That paragon interrupt with Wrex is too much. I can't do it.

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Sometimes I accidentally walk into that wierd scanned in games journalist's room instead of Javik's, and it's always Traynor talking about how hot she is even though she's the most out of place strange model in the game.

Boy that was a different time for the industry.

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I don't remember the Arrival DLC being so... awful. I can't be the only one who thought that sucked, right.

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Yeah all the DLC for ME2 is kind of lame. ME3 sure has it beat on that front.

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Shadow Broker DLC was good. 95% of the reason for that was because of the character profiles though.

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Shadow Broker is decent but still wasn't nearly as good as I remember. Overall I agree with you, but I'd have to call Arrival the worst of the bunch - which is quite a feat when Firewalker is one of your competitors.

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Shadow Broker has cool shit in it but actually playing it isn't anything special at all. Honestly I don't even like the combat encounters in it. The boss fight is also kind of bad (but all ME boss fights are bad, so...)

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Yeah, I remember Shadow Broker being more unique a decade ago, but at least it tried bringing some new stuff to the table. If nothing else, it had a lot of fun easter eggs, and I thought the broker's ship was a really cool looking area.

Arrival, conversely, was a complete chore that did nothing new apart from the 30 seconds Shepard got to control a basic mech. I also hated how it handled Shepard's most significant moral dilemma yet (the killing of 300,000 innocent people near that mass relay) - by not giving the player any voice in the decision and having Shepard just go through with it on autopilot. It's like a precursor to ME3's ending!

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

The boss fight is also kind of bad (but all ME boss fights are bad, so...)

Random side note: this is a recurring problem with a lot of western series, I think, and I'm not entirely sure why. If I had to make a list of my 20 favorite boss fights I think close to all of them would come from eastern-developed games.

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I had forgotten the final boss of ME1 was literally a reskinned normal enemy with a lot of health.

And people complain about 2's...which they should because it sucks, but still.

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At least they picked the most annoying normal enemy in the game!

(dunno if that makes it even worse)

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I had forgotten the final boss of ME1 was literally a reskinned normal enemy with a lot of health.

Could've been worse. They could've literally outsourced the boss fights like some companies have done!

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I actually really loved everything in ME1 from Virmire onward (especially since it was my final core world mission).

Just that everything before that is pretty dull (repetitive planets, same building interiors over and over).

I hate doing Kasumi's loyalty mission so early cause now she's just kinda there for the rest of the game, but god damn do I love the Locust.

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KamikazePotato posted...

Random side note: this is a recurring problem with a lot of western series, I think, and I'm not entirely sure why. If I had to make a list of my 20 favorite boss fights I think close to all of them would come from eastern-developed games.

It's so bizarre, yes

There's been so many games in the last, like, decade+ that I've really enjoyed but that have been slightly let down by poor boss fights. Assassin's Creed and Uncharted are the two I usually come back to with this (UC4's final boss is pretty good though).

That said, Mass Effect has good bosses but they're all in DLC. Nothing good in the main games, but there's two in LotSB that I like and the final boss of Citadel is my favourite (and idk if it's just me but, on Insanity, it was the game's biggest challenge that I can remember).
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Dancedreamer posted...

Me: "Next playthrough, I"m going to Kill Wrex on Virmire. do a TOTAL renegade run. Then sabotage the genophage for the dalatrass.

Me, during Priority: Tuchanka:
Nope, can't do it. That paragon interrupt with Wrex is too much. I can't do it.

When I went full renegade through my entire second run, I got right up to the scene with Mordin. I fully intended to sabotage the cure and shoot him, but I chickened out of the renegade interrupt. I didn't have the heart.
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Shadow Broker is awesome. The end of Overlord is good. Arrival is not very good.

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I read an article recently about how gross Overlord is: https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7emky/mass-effect-2-overlord-should-have-stayed-in-2010

Also reminder that the final boss of ME3 is Marauder Shields

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Yes I still remember that bad joke

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I finally gave up trying to find it here and just downloaded it off the store. Had enough storage space to manage it.

Even the Bioware logo got me hyped!
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Respect for Liara up.

ME3 Spoilers.
When Javik told her on the Monastery that his people would have wiped out a group like the Ardat Yakshi, she said "Why? They didn't like the competition?"

Don't think I'd ever seen that before because I never took them both on that mission before.

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Liara ftw

I've seen people trashing her characterization because she completely changed between ME1/2, but it made sense given the context of Shepard's death and a two-year passage. It would have made less sense if she had remained a doe-eyed scholar beyond ME1.

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I think her change is somewhat abrupt even considering the circumstances, but she's ways better in ME2/3 so who cares?

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Tali got a lot more assertive in ME2/3 also she just didn't get as many Renegade points as Liara

I think Tali's felt more natural. The Quarian Pilgrimage definitely feels like an event designed to turn boys/girls into men/women, so her coming back more assertive is by design within her backstory.

Liara goes from naive introvert to criminal mastermind is kinda "huh?" but I assume that's explained more in a comic or sumfin'.

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andylt posted...

I read an article recently about how gross Overlord is: https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7emky/mass-effect-2-overlord-should-have-stayed-in-2010

Also reminder that the final boss of ME3 is Marauder Shields

I 100% understand a person with autism being upset about this, but the idea that a bad guy is somehow too bad to be allowed and/or should have to be punished for this to be ok is absurd, were talking about a serious with literal genocides?

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Also this happened last night:



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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I 100% understand a person with autism being upset about this, but the idea that a bad guy is somehow too bad to be allowed and/or should have to be punished for this to be ok is absurd, were talking about a serious with literal genocides?

I mean their #1 complaint is after discovering the truth, Shepard still acts like theres room to negotiate with the guy or that he might have a valid point, and theres no option to have Shepard just reject his bullshit 100% with no reservations.

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