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Balrog0 04/15/21 1:21:23 PM #101: |
Samurontai posted...
Also just to add, if this helps out the Democrats more in the future, Im all for it. I just hate how dishonest some people are with their justification for it lol I agree, I don't really give a shit either way about packing the court, but I hate to see bad and/or ignorant arguments where the premise is flawed and the conclusions don't follow --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Goldice 04/15/21 1:22:50 PM #102: |
Fun fact: most bills attempting to increase the size of state level supreme courts in the past 10 years were proposed by Republicans. The only ones that succeeded were Republicans.
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Balrog0 04/15/21 1:26:31 PM #104: |
Please point me to the explanation of how that happens, thank you
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Samurontai 04/15/21 1:27:58 PM #105: |
Balrog0 posted...
@Samurontai I didn't say that the scotus can't declare things unconstitutional, what I said is that the fact they haven't ruled any EOs unconstitutional is irrelevant because they don't get to decide arbitrarily what laws or policies are unconstitutional. That is why, like I said, none of trump's had even been heard by the scotus at this point in 2017. Maybe Im arguing a non issue, but Im specifically talking about the SCs ability to outright deem an EO unconstitutional not their procedures to deal with a federal judges block But rather, their ability to not have to wait for a federal judge to deem it so, but the ability to jump the shark I guess I could say --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 04/15/21 1:28:35 PM #106: |
How do they do that?
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Samurontai 04/15/21 1:37:34 PM #107: |
Balrog0 posted...
How do they do that? Actually, youre right. Ill admit I was wrong in that the SC cant outright block an EO but even so, Biden has been able to push through most of his policies relatively unchallenged, outside of the pause on the 100 day deportation thing earlier this year so packing the courts is still a non issue, and only being done for optics, much like the 15 dollar minimum wage push from earlier (not that this was a non issue but more so that it was mostly optics) --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sackgurl 04/15/21 1:39:45 PM #108: |
Samurontai posted...
Biden has been able to push through most of his policies relatively unchallenged what do you mean by 'most of his policies' you realize that thus far the only relevant legislation passed was the coronavirus relief bill right? and that it was passed without filibuster, and with zero republican support, only by using the democrats' once-per-year reconciliation tool? Samurontai posted... so packing the courts is still a non issue, and only being done for optics, much like the 15 dollar minimum wage push from earlier (not that this was a non issue but more so that it was mostly optics) it's quite clear that democratic party leadership does not support packing the courts because it would involve taking risk, yes. --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bleuets 04/15/21 1:40:07 PM #109: |
Guide posted...
This is always a dumb take. What matters is the reasoning behind your preference, not just that you like x or dislike y. @Guide huh? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 04/15/21 1:40:59 PM #110: |
Sackgurl posted...
what do you mean by 'most of his policies' As in the ones that he has pushed out so far. Out of all of those, I can only think of his reversal on the 100 day ban actually being challenged heavily enough to put a stop to it --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 04/15/21 1:41:31 PM #111: |
Isn't that unconstitutional!??!!?!
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Sackgurl 04/15/21 1:42:24 PM #112: |
Samurontai posted...
As in the ones that he has pushed out so far. Out of all of those, I can only think of his reversal on the 100 day ban actually being challenged heavily enough to put a stop to it so, is he not facing resistance, or is he not rocking the boat by trying to do things too fast? also was the coronavirus relief bill produced very fast? you need to understand that he is always facing universal resistance from 49.5% of the senate voting body. so any progress is going to have to be that which can be passed by the slimmest possible majority, even if that majority was elected by 80% of voting americans. --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Proto_Spark 04/15/21 1:44:10 PM #113: |
We should up the court size. And the Supreme court shouldn't be small enough that one president in one short 4 year term can completely **** up the country's judicial branch for an entire generation just because he has some luck and a senate who went out of their way to **** over the previous administration.
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Samurontai 04/15/21 1:46:03 PM #114: |
Sackgurl posted...
so, is he not facing resistance, or is he not rocking the boat by trying to do things too fast? also was the coronavirus relief bill produced very fast? Hea pushed out more executive orders in his first week than the past 3 or 4 presidents iirc. Im not saying hes doing things too fast, because thats subjective, but rather that hes rocking the boat regardless. Also the relief bill had to go through Congress, and its hard to gauge quickness in relation to other bills due to the nature of it, and what it was for, so I cant answer whether it was very fast or not --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 04/15/21 1:47:16 PM #115: |
Sackgurl posted...
you need to understand that he is always facing universal resistance from 49.5% of the senate voting body. Wait are you one of those people that believe that every democrat is the same and every Republican is the same, because thats the vibes in getting from this comment lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 04/15/21 1:47:29 PM #116: |
Sackgurl posted...
you realize that thus far the only relevant legislation passed was the coronavirus relief bill right? and that it was passed without filibuster, and with zero republican support, only by using the democrats' once-per-year reconciliation tool? There's a big challenge to at least one provision of that bill that will likely end up in the supreme court, too --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 04/15/21 1:48:51 PM #117: |
Also, relevant is subjective
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Questionmarktarius 04/15/21 1:50:48 PM #118: |
Add exactly one Justice.
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SSJPurple 04/15/21 1:54:13 PM #119: |
The right owes the left two picks anyway
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CobraGT 04/15/21 1:55:34 PM #120: |
The Senate Acquitted former President Donald Trump after the Capitol Invasion. Mr. Trump appointed 3 of the current.
United States Supreme Court #JusticeNomination date 1Neil GorsuchFebruary 1, 2017 2Brett KavanaughJuly 10, 2018 3Amy Coney BarrettSeptember 29, 2020 4 sounds right to me. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 04/15/21 1:59:00 PM #121: |
PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
I could've sworn Joe Biden said he wouldn't pack the court dozens of times while campaigning. He actually didn't. He threatened to do it multiple times then demurred whenever asked by not really giving an answer. Hence during the campaign people kept accusing him of literally trying to do this -- or using the threat of doing this -- to undermine SCOTUS as an independent agency. And if there's one thing that authoritarian regimes like the Biden administration hate, it's independent bodies that won't just go along with anything they want. America is in a very, very dark 4-12 years (since, although Biden claimed he wouldn't seek re-election, he still might and, with SCOTUS in his pocket, he could remove presidential term limits, so he very well may be president for 20 years or up until the day he dies) --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Teneritas 04/15/21 2:00:46 PM #122: |
Zeus posted...
He actually didn't. He threatened to do it multiple times then demurred whenever asked by not really giving an answer. Hence during the campaign people kept accusing him of literally trying to do this -- or using the threat of doing this -- to undermine SCOTUS as an independent agency. And if there's one thing that authoritarian regimes like the Biden administration hate, it's independent bodies that won't just go along with anything they want. I wish Biden was actually as crazy and ruthless as righties make him out to be. We might actually get universal healthcare. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lydiaquayle 04/15/21 2:29:10 PM #123: |
PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
I could've sworn Joe Biden said he wouldn't pack the court dozens of times while campaigning. Who could've seen this coming?Joe Biden is a Congressman? --- [Feminist][CisGender][Straight Supporter][Non-Binary] I'm not Ashamed to Dress 'like a Woman' because I don't think it's Shameful to be a Woman. ~Iggy Pop~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ooger 04/15/21 3:13:09 PM #124: |
PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
They want to add 4 new justices. Are you republican't pro-court packing in general? RBG's body was still warm when you all started looking for a new justice. You should love this. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 04/15/21 3:17:26 PM #125: |
Bleuets posted...
@Guide huh? Emoji are disabled on my browser, all I see is "" for any of them. What's puzzling you? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bleuets 04/15/21 4:20:59 PM #126: |
Guide posted...
Emoji are disabled on my browser, all I see is "" for any of them. What's puzzling you? what exactly did you mean by your post? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 04/15/21 4:38:48 PM #127: |
People unironically look at the GOP and think "same thing both sides!!"
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ElatedVenusaur 04/15/21 4:42:20 PM #128: |
Teneritas posted...
I wish Biden was actually as crazy and ruthless as righties make him out to be. We might actually get universal healthcare.Yeah, ruthless socialist partisan Biden sounds way cooler. Oh right, there's a meme for this: Though at least even Virgin Actual Joe Biden realizes that the Republicans can't be relied on to actually do anything in good faith. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sackgurl 04/15/21 4:49:06 PM #129: |
Samurontai posted...
but rather that hes rocking the boat regardless. which of these rock the boat https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/joe-biden/2021 --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 04/15/21 4:55:29 PM #130: |
Its funny how hypocritical both sides are about this. Whenever you lose, the other side is packing the courts. When you win, its suddenly a good thing.
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Dark_SilverX 04/15/21 4:56:28 PM #131: |
Sleepy Joe at it again
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AlCalavicci 04/15/21 5:22:45 PM #132: |
Pack the courts. Elections have consequences, remember?
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ooger 04/15/21 5:24:38 PM #133: |
ooger posted...
Are you republican't's pro-court packing in general? --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 04/15/21 5:29:35 PM #134: |
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Doom_Art 04/15/21 5:33:07 PM #135: |
Payzmaykr posted...
both sidesUh oh! *both sides alarm goes off* --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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unclekoolaid73 04/15/21 5:58:08 PM #136: |
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AndyKnow 04/15/21 5:59:55 PM #137: |
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DuneMan 04/15/21 6:17:15 PM #138: |
My proposal for the Supreme Court was to expand it to 19 Justices and rotate 2 out every Presidential Election Cycle. This keeps the formative goal of independence from the other branches while also avoiding the 'existential crisis' antics surrounding how and when Justices get appointed.
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Guide 04/15/21 6:24:45 PM #139: |
Bleuets posted...
what exactly did you mean by your post? I would like to explain, but I don't know what part is unclear that needs explaining. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 04/15/21 7:29:44 PM #140: |
unclekoolaid73 posted...
RBG said nine was a good number of justices.She also said her dying wish was to have the winner of the 2020 election name her successor. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE FOSTER 04/15/21 7:36:54 PM #141: |
shockthemonkey posted...
lmfao @ angry trolls upset about Democrats wanting a balanced court ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE FOSTER 04/15/21 7:37:40 PM #142: |
SSJPurple posted...
The right owes the left two picks anyway3 picks Trump should have none ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 04/15/21 8:00:13 PM #143: |
They don't have the balls to go through with this. Democrats let the Republicans walk all over them.
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What_ 04/15/21 8:01:56 PM #144: |
Pack em up
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jumi 04/15/21 8:56:17 PM #145: |
Good.
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ElatedVenusaur 04/15/21 9:23:16 PM #148: |
Revnir posted...
Let the current court do something horrible first. Then you'll have the political capital to expand itWaiting seems like a bad thing to do when democracy itself is at risk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE FOSTER 04/15/21 9:23:49 PM #149: |
nah fuck that expand the courts and get rid of the fillibuster
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scorpion41 04/15/21 9:25:33 PM #150: |
There are no grounds for expanding the SC beyond political gain. The right leaning justices have been pretty fair up to this point. But, hey...you want to keep pissing off half the country then go for it.
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CADE FOSTER 04/15/21 9:27:25 PM #151: |
scorpion41 posted...
There are no grounds for expanding the SC beyond political gain. The right leaning justices have been pretty fair up to this point. But, hey...you want to keep pissing off half the country then go for it.the right simply doesnt give a fuck about anything but the right fuck appeasing trumpers fuck them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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