Poll of the Day > Black man arrested for walking home from work

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They generously dropped the charges...

https://www.fox4news.com/news/plano-police-say-charge-dropped-for-18-year-old-arrested-while-walking-home-from-work-in-the-snow

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I think we have heard more than necessary about this kind of thing happening to Black men for far too long and still it continues to happen. And with that being said, we still have people in this country who are in denial about this sort of thing happening over and over.

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Lmao some country. Black people get put in jail for just walking home now. If they genuinely were concerned why didnt they just take him home lol

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FatalAccident posted...

Lmao some country. Black people get put in jail for just walking home now. If they genuinely were concerned why didnt they just take him home lol

Because why help people when you can arrest and kill them?

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Ya makes sense man

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"Theres a lot of information that we know about this case that we didnt know at the time. Those officers didnt know his age. They didnt know he was 18. They didnt know he worked at WalMart. They didnt know where he lived," [Plano police chief] Drain said.

Sounds like some pretty fucking shitty officers not to investigate the person they're arresting. And that's the police chief's defense.

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Police have a long road to redemption ahead of them, and this was a step (albeit a small one) in the wrong direction.

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RCtheWSBC posted...

Sounds like some pretty fucking shitty officers not to investigate the person they're arresting. And that's the police chief's defense.

Sounds like information that couldve been gathered in the first 30 seconds of a quick interview when they talked to them.

I especially liked the end of the article where they had to specify that he did resist arrest but they didnt charge him. Id resist arrest too if you were antagonizing my ass while Im trying to walk home in the fuckin snow.

I'm sorry, did you say the culprit was walking and black at the same time? Why hasn't the key been thrown away already?

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RCtheWSBC posted...

Sounds like some pretty fucking shitty officers not to investigate the person they're arresting. And that's the police chief's defense.

Well, hopefully if he file a lawsuit he won't have to worry about walking home in the snow again...But yea, it happened to me recently here on Miami Beach...some rando Cop/Park Patrol guy just rolled up on me and guy talking a started asking for IDs and whatnot...I asked why, and he wait, and gave back the IDs w/o giving a valid reason...
I could've started a *****fit about it, but I was just enjoying the day and let it go for now...

RCtheWSBC posted...

Sounds like some pretty fucking shitty officers not to investigate the person they're arresting. And that's the police chief's defense.

Black people need to carry proof they should not be arrested.

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Youd think officials intended to protect and serve would have simply given the man a ride home in those conditions. But we dont live in a sane society.

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^Yea, like ppl voting tRUMP in office and Domestic Terrorists storming the Capitol...

I doubt it, because its Texas, but I hope the arresting officers are disciplined. Kid should sue.

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The 18-year-old was stopped by Plano PD officers while walking home from work at WalMart during the winter weather

I do that sometimes myself. I should watch out for police.

"Alright, but youre walking in the middle of the road," an officer said.

Sometimes that's the safest place to walk. If the sidewalks or street sides are iced over using them puts you at more risk of slipping and falling into the path of oncoming traffic.

officers continued to follow him for two minutes and 17 seconds

If they were so concerned about street conditions they could have offered him a ride.

Reese was arrested for walking in the street. The official charge was pedestrian in the roadway.

It really doesn't sound like there was anywhere safer to walk.

"Theres a lot of information that we know about this case that we didnt know at the time. Those officers didnt know his age. They didnt know he was 18. They didnt know he worked at WalMart. They didnt know where he lived,"

I don't see why this is relevant to the charge.

Chief Drain doesnt believe race was a factor in the arrest.

And they were so close to staying on topic.


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Forgive me for jacking your topic, somewhat of a similar issue though

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/22/elijah-mcclain-independent-investigation-police-colorado

WHY TF DID THEY INJECT HIM WITH KETAMINE? I have NEVER heard of police drugging people being a common practice

And 500mg seems to be nothing short of a fat ass overdose, but I wouldn't know

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I certainly hope no police inject me with any free ketamine

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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I do that sometimes myself. I should watch out for police.

I walk home from the brewery with a beer in hand often. In fact, I'm about do it right now.

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Mead posted...

Youd think officials intended to protect and serve would have simply given the man a ride home in those conditions. But we dont live in a sane society.

It looks like they offered him a ride. This whole situation is wack. It all could have been avoided with a simple 45 second conversation, but instead dude was unnecessarily obstinate. Cops were responding to a pedestrian in the roadway, if he would have stoped when asked and explained the situation, it wouldn't have escalated. This is not to say the cops were right to arrest him.

hungrymike posted...

Cops were responding to a pedestrian in the roadway, if he would have stoped when asked and explained the situation, it wouldn't have escalated.

Agreed. Stopping and talking to the cops would have resolved this quicker then walking away from them and avoided him getting arrested probably. Based on the video at least he seems quite defensive and didn't want to corporate

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So I can get arrested for taking special K, or I can get arrested and take special K?

hungrymike posted...

It looks like they offered him a ride. This whole situation is wack. It all could have been avoided with a simple 45 second conversation, but instead dude was unnecessarily obstinate. Cops were responding to a pedestrian in the roadway, if he would have stoped when asked and explained the situation, it wouldn't have escalated. This is not to say the cops were right to arrest him.

The cops would have just driven him straight to jail.
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Revelation34 posted...

The cops would have just driven him straight to jail.

If you watched the video you would see they probably wouldn't have. The arrest mostly happened due to how this bloke was acting. He even said he'd never put his hand on a female to the female cop who only wanted to ask him questions.

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wwinterj25 posted...

If you watched the video you would see they probably wouldn't have. The arrest mostly happened due to how this bloke was acting. He even said he'd never put his hand on a female to the female cop who only wanted to ask him questions.

No they would have. That's how cops roll.
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Revelation34 posted...

No they would have. That's how cops roll.

No they do not. Sure a small minority abuse their power but most cops do their job and do it well. I am curious though what run-ins have you had with cops that make you believe this. I assume none.

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hungrymike posted...

It looks like they offered him a ride. This whole situation is wack. It all could have been avoided with a simple 45 second conversation, but instead dude was unnecessarily obstinate. Cops were responding to a pedestrian in the roadway, if he would have stoped when asked and explained the situation, it wouldn't have escalated. This is not to say the cops were right to arrest him.

imagine actually blaming the victim in this situation

this dude had the right and freedom walk home and not talk to anybody including the police

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Mead posted...

imagine actually blaming the victim in this situation

this dude had the right and freedom walk home and not talk to anybody including the police

Thank you. It isn't obstinate to refuse to talk to police. He had full legal right to keep it moving.

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hungrymike posted...

It looks like they offered him a ride. This whole situation is wack. It all could have been avoided with a simple 45 second conversation, but instead dude was unnecessarily obstinate. Cops were responding to a pedestrian in the roadway, if he would have stoped when asked and explained the situation, it wouldn't have escalated. This is not to say the cops were right to arrest him.

He did, though. He said he was walking home and that he was fine. This was a welfare check. If he said he was ok, then the cops should have left... It was as simple as that... Theres no reason he should have to talk to the cops in this situation...
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wwinterj25 posted...

No they do not. Sure a small minority abuse their power but most cops do their job and do it well. I am curious though what run-ins have you had with cops that make you believe this. I assume none.

Imagine a British guy thinking he knows how American cops act.
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Another future millionaire. What I would give!!!!!

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Revelation34 posted...

Imagine a British guy thinking he knows how American cops act.

So you have no way to enlighten me(what's new?). Good to know.

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LinkPizza posted...

He did, though. He said he was walking home and that he was fine. This was a welfare check. If he said he was ok, then the cops should have left... It was as simple as that... Theres no reason he should have to talk to the cops in this situation...

I see what your saying, and I'm inclined to agree with u. However dude was walking down the middle of the street, which is a crime. When a cop attempts to stop you for that crime you stop and explain the situation.
Mead posted...

imagine actually blaming the victim in this situation

this dude had the right and freedom walk home and not talk to anybody including the police

I'm not blaming or defending anyone. It's a f***** up situation all around. I'm just saying dude would have had a better night if he would have stopped and talked to the cops instead of being obstinate

hungrymike posted...

I see what your saying, and I'm inclined to agree with u. However dude was walking down the middle of the street, which is a crime. When a cop attempts to stop you for that crime you stop and explain the situation.

For safety reasons. Most cops should know that it could be dangerous to walk on the iced sidewalks. And since it was night (and not many cars were out), it was most likely much safer to do so. And he apologized for doing that. When they told him what he was doing, he said, Sorry. My bad. While you can say that for robbing someone or murder, it seemed fine for just jaywalking when no traffic was around. And it would probably be logical to think the reason he was in the street was probably because the sidewalks were dangerous and slippery...

hungrymike posted...

I'm just saying dude would have had a better night if he would have stopped and talked to the cops instead of being obstinate

Thats an assumption. And tbh, I believe its a wrong one. I believe he probably would have still been arrested. They arrested him when they were doing a welfare check on him. Even if he stopped, they probably would have still arrested him for jaywalking... The police were in the wrong here and should have left as soon as he said he was ok. At that point, the welfare check should have been complete...
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Shadowbird_RH posted...

Police have a long road to redemption ahead of them, and this was a step (albeit a small one) in the wrong direction.

More of a side step. As sad as it sounds my first knee jerk thought was. Well he didnt get shot at least.

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@wwinterj25 this is what I mean.

Youre blaming the victim. Guy is on his way home and knows full well he has done literally nothing wrong. Hes walking in the middle of the road because its probably less icy cause the road has been salted over whereas the footpath isnt, how many times have we dont that over here? I know for a fact Ive done it plenty of times and still do when Im not driving.

theres nothing obstinate about not wanting to talk to the police when youre literally just on your way home from work at night.

Not to mention how many times have you seen black people in America stop to talk to police and end up dead or in jail. Literally this is a case of the latter.

No matter how many ways you slice it or try to skate around the issue, this is an innocent black man who did nothing wrong and was within his rights not to stop and talk to them. He just wanted to go home, knowing full well engaging with the police could likely get him killed.

Dont think some of you people realise how genuinely fearful black people are of police, Its not just fuck the police for no reason, people are scared, and rightfully so. They are fucking insane out there.

if you cant see anything wrong with this situation on the part of the police idk what to tell u

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hungrymike posted...

dude would have had a better night if he would have stopped and talked to the cops

yeah because that always works out so well for black people in the US.

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hungrymike posted...

I'm just saying

why does this always preface some really stupid or bigoted shit

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it started out fine but then they escalated it. they offered him a ride home and he said no. then they arrested him. lol. he turned down their offer for a ride home but they continued to follow and harass him. dunno how someone can blame him.

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america is a racist bigot shithole that discriminates and people are shocked?

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ksamos11 posted...

america is a racist bigot shithole that discriminates and people are shocked?

Would you prefer people just cite it as business as usual that doesn't need to change?

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ksamos11 posted...

america is a racist bigot shithole that discriminates and people are shocked?

who said anyone is shocked? a lot of us want it to change

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FatalAccident posted...

Guy is on his way home and knows full well he has done literally nothing wrong. Hes walking in the middle of the road because its probably less icy cause the road has been salted over whereas the footpath isnt, how many times have we dont that over here? I know for a fact Ive done it plenty of times and still do when Im not driving.

Yeah I've done that myself too. The difference is I'd actually stop and chat to the cop. It's a simple solution to cops doing their job.

Not to mention how many times have you seen black people in America stop to talk to police and end up dead or in jail. Literally this is a case of the latter.

If you watched the video he stopped after the cops followed him and then said he's never hit a female. Why is he even saying such a thing? The way he said implied he wanted to. Seems hostile to me. Although even before that he seemed that way when the cop just asked him a question.

No matter how many ways you slice it or try to skate around the issue, this is an innocent black man who did nothing wrong and was within his rights not to stop and talk to them. He just wanted to go home, knowing full well engaging with the police could likely get him killed.

He was in his rights not to talk to them sure. However every action has consequences and they had the power to arrest him. Again a more simple solution would have been just to talk to them in the first place.

if you cant see anything wrong with this situation on the part of the police idk what to tell u

If black people are as scared about cops in the USA as you claim then walking alone at night wouldn't be a good idea to begin with. It seems to me you can't acknowledge a simple solution to a problem but would rather stamp your feel and ignore logic. I half expected you to call me a racist again although you kinda are implying it. No matter the race I'll be saying the same thing in these situations so that doesn't work.


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wwinterj25 posted...

Yeah I've done that myself too. The difference is I'd actually stop and chat to the cop. It's a simple solution to cops doing their job.

The difference is youre white. That being said, he did talk to them. He told them he was fine... At that point, their job (welfare check) was complete...

wwinterj25 posted...

He was in his rights not to talk to them sure. However every action has consequences and they had the power to arrest him. Again a more simple solution would have been just to talk to them in the first place.

He did talk to them. They should be able to walk and talk. They were already doing so...

wwinterj25 posted...

If black people are as scared about cops in the USA as you claim then walking alone at night wouldn't be a good idea to begin with. It seems to me you can't acknowledge a simple solution to a problem but would rather stamp your feel and ignore logic. I half expected you to call me a racist again although you kinda are implying it. No matter the race I'll be saying the same thing in these situations so that doesn't work.

You seem to be ignoring logic. He probably didnt want to be out at night, either. But he had to get home... They said he was on the way home from work...
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LinkPizza posted...

The difference is youre white. That being said, he did talk to them. He told them he was fine... At that point, their job (welfare check) was complete...

He was hostile and kept walking away so it's no surprise things escalated. My race is irrelevant. Although we do have cops that don't use guns as quick for the most part so that's somewhat of a factor. Still doesn't change what I find the best solution though.

You seem to be ignoring logic. He probably didnt want to be out at night, either. But he had to get home... They said he was on the way home from work...

I don't think it's difficult to arrange to meet folk when you fear for your life but again that's too much of a simple solution. Drama is the best approach so you can spin a narrative and get attention clearly.

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wwinterj25 posted...

He was hostile and kept walking away so it's no surprise things escalated. My race is irrelevant. Although we do have cops that don't use guns as quick for the most part so that's somewhat of a factor. Still doesn't change what I find the best solution though.

He wasnt hostile, though. Walking away doesnt make you hostile. And he was allowed to keep walking away. Things shouldnt have escalated if the police did their job correctly. After doing the welfare check, they were done. He said he was ok, and that he did not want a ride. And race is relevant. I have no doubt that things would have been different if a white person did the same thing. Though, most white wouldnt need to as they dont have a reason to fear cops the same way black people do... In the UK, maybe they would stop because they probably wouldnt get shot. Where black people in the US get arrest, tackled, shot, tased, etc. just for looking at them...

wwinterj25 posted...

I don't think it's difficult to arrange to meet folk when you fear for your life but again that's too much of a simple solution. Drama is the best approach so you can spin a narrative and get attention clearly.

Thats assuming someone was available. It was at night. Its possible no one was available. And the streets were covered in snow and ice. Not to mention, that person would have to go and meet him at his place of work first. The same thing might have happened to the other person. So, no. Its not a simple solution. Because not everybody has access to the same things...Youre the one spinning you own narrative and victim blaming...
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LinkPizza posted...

He wasnt hostile, though.

The video suggests otherwise.

Youre the one spinning you own narrative and victim blaming...

Doesn't seem to be the case. Based on the video I'm offering simple solutions that would have probably avoided this drama. Excuses not to have done these simple solutions is just that. Maybe this fella will learn from this. Victim blaming implies a victim but this doesn't seem like racial profiling. We will never know if that's the case or not though so we all have our opinions and perceptions on things. I can acknowledge your point of view even if I don't agree with it.


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How tf do you say he was "hostile" when he was walking away from the police and repeatedly told them he was fine and was headed home?

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wwinterj25 posted...

Maybe this fella will learn from this.

Fuck you.

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he was walking at unsafe speeds towards his home, in an extremely dark manner

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