Poll of the Day > Homes of McConnell and Pelosi vandalized

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Hmm well I guess some people are slowly waking up.

These people are quick to refer to SS, Mcaid and Mcare etc as "handouts" and "entitlements" when they themselves are the biggest welfare queens in the country.

SALARIES of the House Speaker: $223,500, Majority and Minority Leaders: $193,400, President Pro Tempore $193,400. Regular members make $174,000. ALL PAID BY TAXPAYERS!

PENSION: As a federal employee, members of Congress can qualify for a pension in addition to Social Security. A member vests a taxpayer funded pension after five years of service and is eligible to receive a pension as early as 50. Full pensions are normally conferred at 62. The irony here being they don't think regular folks should have a pension plan and as we all know most employers in America have done away with company sponsored pension plans that some of our grandparents and parents had during their working lives. That's all gone and now that's left up to people who for the most part make less than $50,000 a year but you're expected to sock away money for your own retirement via IRAs and 401K plans that most hourly paid people can't fully fund.

The average retirement salary annually is roughly $12,000 per month for former members. Federal pensions are classified as "Private Information" because you don't want the very people you're fleecing knowing what you get.

That doesn't include the millions these crooks make from outside deals which violates ethics laws but they do it via loopholes. Some of these people are employed in their districts by federal contractors for selling out the government to the highest bidders both at home and abroad.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/us/mcconnell-pelosi-house-vandalized.html


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Its not like he actually lives in Kentucky.

That fucker has mansions all over the world.

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This wouldn't have happened in the mid-2000s. What changed?

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Ive spent my career fighting for the First Amendment

http://gph.is/1F9N1Pc

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

This wouldn't have happened in the mid-2000s. What changed?

They very nearly told the common, suffering folk we can have cake.

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I hope this happens more and more. Politicians are forgetting that they need to be afraid of their constituents tbh.

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

This wouldn't have happened in the mid-2000s. What changed?

I dont think you were paying as much attention back then if you think this is true

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PK_Spam posted...

I hope this happens more and more. Politicians are forgetting that they need to be afraid of their constituents tbh.

this will fire up his constituents even more

they keep him in office because theyre mad at liberals

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Considering Kentucky has some of the poorest counties in the country and they STILL like him, Democrats couldve served them all solid gold bricks and they still wouldve licked McConnells boots, so maybe dont worry about those people.

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Im surprised how well we do with at keeping top members of our government alive with so much hate directed at them.

I legitimately don't care if the homes of multi millionaires get vandalized

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BUMPED2002 posted...

These people are quick to refer to SS, Mcaid and Mcare etc as "handouts" and "entitlements"

At least parts of them are clearly handouts and entitlements. If something is being given for nothing, that's a handout. SS (and to some extent Medicare) is a little stickier because people pay into it, but the amount that certain individuals receive over the life of their involvement in the program can greatly exceed whatever they put into it which is also why it's not a sustainable model. (Which is why SS has sometimes been called the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time.)

BUMPED2002 posted...

when they themselves are the biggest welfare queens in the country.

SALARIES of the House Speaker: $223,500, Majority and Minority Leaders: $193,400, President Pro Tempore $193,400. Regular members make $174,000. ALL PAID BY TAXPAYERS!

Although politicians make outrageous money for what they do, the current rules basically force them to keep two residences so... the job puts some financial demands on them. Granted, welfare queens like Bernie Sanders have clearly enriched themselves through the job, as he started with nothing but with government money only is a multi-millionaire with three houses.

BUMPED2002 posted...

PENSION: As a federal employee, members of Congress can qualify for a pension in addition to Social Security. A member vests a taxpayer funded pension after five years of service and is eligible to receive a pension as early as 50. Full pensions are normally conferred at 62. The irony here being they don't think regular folks should have a pension plan and as we all know most employers in America have done away with company sponsored pension plans that some of our grandparents and parents had during their working lives. That's all gone and now that's left up to people who for the most part make less than $50,000 a year but you're expected to sock away money for your own retirement via IRAs and 401K plans that most hourly paid people can't fully fund.

I don't think you really understand pensions in general?

blu posted...

Im surprised how well we do with at keeping top members of our government alive with so much hate directed at them.

Because most "hate" is meaningless. And it's less surprising that top government members are kept alive than it is lower government posts don't wind up as targets. When you have a security detail, it can be difficult to kill you. However, most normal congresspeople (and senators) aren't always protected. In theory, any motivated wacko with a grudge and a weapon can get at them, which is exactly what we saw when some far-left nut shot up that congressional baseball game. Or when that drugged-out maniac tried to kill Giffords.


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Sanders has like 2 million bro. Thats a drop of the bucket and not what we mean when we talk about the exploitative rich lmao

And he still pays taxes

welfare queen lol

gtfo

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When you look at all the BS business dealings that get set up for McConnell and his wife, along with all the money he takes from lobbyists, hes easily the most corrupt politician in the US.

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It's a shame that so many of these groups hate each other, because if they worked together they could get so much more DONE towards their goals.

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Unbridled9 posted...

It's a shame that so many of these groups hate each other, because if they worked together they could get so much more DONE towards their goals.

the kinds of conservatives that keep people like McConnell in office are so fixated on groups of people that they hate that they gleefully vote against their own interests

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Vandalizing isn't going to fix anything.

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Crying about Taco Bell and farting on about your chakras is the only true way to improve society

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Vandalizing isn't going to fix anything.

Ba dum tch

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Man, I really expected something a lot worse:
https://i.redd.it/7ectzi8pny861.png

PK_Spam posted...

Considering Kentucky has some of the poorest counties in the country and they STILL like him

Kentucky doesn't like him. They'd just literally rather die than vote for a Democrat.
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GanonsSpirit posted...

Kentucky doesn't like him. They'd just literally rather die than vote for a Democrat.

Yeah doesn't he have like a 20% approval rating? The fact that he got reelected is so WTF to me.

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Seems odd that federal pensions are classified when other federal jobs like the military (when they still had pensions) are public knowledge.

GanonsSpirit posted...

Kentucky doesn't like him. They'd just literally rather die than vote for a Democrat.

To be fair, Amy McGrath was garbage and the DNC predictably shilled for her. Another person trying to appeal to this mythical centrist/malleable republican voting bloc instead of shoring up their support on the left and generating enthusiasm. She literally ran ads attacking Mitch on the basis of not helping Trump's agenda enough.

papercup posted...

Yeah doesn't he have like a 20% approval rating? The fact that he got reelected is so WTF to me.

I'd have a hard time believing that. It might be that nationally, but that doesn't make much difference on his election prospects.

I bet it's no coincidence that Republicans gave so much power to a guy from a pretty immovable state, there's no real threat of accountability. The Dems are shitty about this too with Pelosi (San Fran) and Schumer (New York).

Yeah, having a monarchy is a crapshoot each generation, but damn if it wouldn't feel good to just have someone ride in on a white horse, point at the crooks, and see them hauled off to a hard labor camp for the rest of their days.

Womp womp.

Worthless Republican sympathizer Pelosi and Moscow Mitch are running America into the ground. And even if worthless Republican sympathizer Biden is only going to be marginally better than Trump, at least Trump will soon be gone and will stop taking aggro from all the other corrupt shit stains in office. Namely the ones with a D next to their name who aren't nearly as left leaning as Republicans want their base to believe.....
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Far-Queue posted...

Ayup. As well as doing shit like condemning people for wanting to go out and do things like work during the pandemic... then going and getting their hair done or hosting large parties. My friend almost had to cancel his wedding because of lockdowns (one day before) but these politicians just... openly ignore their own edicts. I have no sympathy for a politician who has their second house vandalized when people are unable to work to afford their own rented apartments.

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Unbridled9 posted...

Ayup. As well as doing shit like condemning people for wanting to go out and do things like work during the pandemic... then going and getting their hair done or hosting large parties. My friend almost had to cancel his wedding because of lockdowns (one day before) but these politicians just... openly ignore their own edicts. I have no sympathy for a politician who has their second house vandalized when people are unable to work to afford their own rented apartments.

youre way too desperately trying to make this a both sides thing

democrats in the house have been trying to get people financial help since May of last year

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Mead posted...

youre way too desperately trying to make this a both sides thing

democrats in the house have been trying to get people financial help since May of last year

Yeah, but Pelosi got her hair done that one time, so both sides are equally bad.
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GanonsSpirit posted...

Yeah, but Pelosi got her hair done that one time, so both sides are equally bad.

that bitch

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GanonsSpirit posted...

Yeah, but Pelosi got her hair done that one time, so both sides are equally bad.

The problem is that, if Pelosi hadn't gotten her hair done, people would've been complaining that she looked like 'an old hag' or some such nonsense. Women are always forced to live under a double standard where they're judged by appearance more than men are, especially older women like Pelosi.

GanonsSpirit posted...

Yeah, but Pelosi got her hair done that one time, so both sides are equally bad.

Or the mayor of NY dancing with his wife in time Square while everyone else is told to stay home. Or governor Newsom in ca going out to a fancy dinner with a bunch of people and making a cringy apology afterward

In this instance, it only makes sense to have beef with McConnell. He blocked the vote on $2000 cheques. Pelosi didn't.

If the folks had beef about a vote on Medicare For All, sure, targeting both makes sense.

Both of them suck ass, but everyone I know sharing this doesn't really have it very straight.

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PK_Spam posted...

Sanders has like 2 million bro. Thats a drop of the bucket and not what we mean when we talk about the exploitative rich lmao

And he still pays taxes

welfare queen lol

gtfo

100% of his wealth comes from the government (ergo the American people) or from the exploitation of that political office. And considering he's only ever lived on the government's dime, that certainly sounds like a welfare queen.


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Zeus posted...

100% of his wealth comes from the government (ergo the American people) or from the exploitation of that political office. And considering he's only ever lived on the government's dime, that certainly sounds like a welfare queen.

"Working for the government is the same as being on welfare."

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PK_Spam posted...

Considering Kentucky has some of the poorest counties in the country and they STILL like him

Kentucky doesn't vote for McConnell because they like him, they vote for him because he has an R next to his name on the ballot.
And because Senators don't have term limits, they'll keep doing it.

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So the trick may or may not be to slip in a new (R) for Kentucky, and have that (R) be not at all what Kentucky is expecting. A decent human being who considers true Conservative values in a logical manner, rather than whomever is lining their pockets that particular day, AND can explain these values to his or her constituents in a manner any semi-reasonable person might understand.

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Won't happen until Mitch loses or kicks the bucket, and the first one ain't happening.

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adjl posted...

"Working for the government is the same as being on welfare."

No, there's working for the government, then there's BEING the government. They're hardly the same thing.

Zareth posted...

Kentucky doesn't vote for McConnell because they like him, they vote for him because he has an R next to his name on the ballot.
And because Senators don't have term limits, they'll keep doing it.

No, they're voting for him because he gives their state greater influence than it might otherwise have and he's able to bring in a ton of pork. Both of CT's senators are fucking awful, but if they were in a position to bring in spoils for the state and were doing it, I'd support the hell out of them.

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Zeus posted...

No, there's working for the government, then there's BEING the government. They're hardly the same thing.

"Working in the government in some capacity and receiving compensation for it is the same thing as being on welfare."

You can try to spin it any way you want with however much pedantic nitpicking you can muster, but there's really no way you're going to be able to convince anyone you didn't say something really stupid there, dude.

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adjl posted...

"Working in the government in some capacity and receiving compensation for it is the same thing as being on welfare."

You can try to spin it any way you want with however much pedantic nitpicking you can muster, but there's really no way you're going to be able to convince anyone you didn't say something really stupid there, dude.

And you can try to spin it all you like, but you're never going to convince any rational person that there isn't something deeply and profoundly wrong with an elected official (especially one who hasn't held a private sector job in over 50 years) a multi-millionaire (with THREE homes) just through their office and exploitation of the benefits associated with it. The concept is stands in stark contrast to the idea of public service. And you know that if it was anybody other than the likes of Bernie Sanders, you'd be railing against it as a form of corruption. As it is, I seem to recall that you've objected to CEO salaries at non-profits and their management actually delivers revenue for their organizations unlike politicians and government.


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Dude like anybody who worked til they're 80 with many years at the salary of high level government jobs would be worth $3 million. I'm not sure if it's even that much, I believe it is between 2 and 3. For someone who always complains about people misunderstanding billionaires' wealth you sure lack a lot of common sense yourself.

GrabASnickers posted...

Dude like anybody who worked til they're 80 with many years at the salary of high level government jobs would be worth $3 million. I'm not sure if it's even that much, I believe it is between 2 and 3. For someone who always complains about people misunderstanding billionaires' wealth you sure lack a lot of common sense yourself.

"Common sense" wouldn't be overcompensating public servants. If somebody is able to become a multi-millionaire with THREE houses (when manyAmericans don't even own one) through elected office, that's a problem.

And it's laughable that you try to justify it through billionaires' wealth, which demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the public and private sectors, as well as a general willful ignorance of the functioning of both.

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Now the Nation's house has been vandalized!

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Zeus posted...

And you can try to spin it all you like, but you're never going to convince any rational person that there isn't something deeply and profoundly wrong with an elected official (especially one who hasn't held a private sector job in over 50 years) a multi-millionaire (with THREE homes) just through their office and exploitation of the benefits associated with it. The concept is stands in stark contrast to the idea of public service. And you know that if it was anybody other than the likes of Bernie Sanders, you'd be railing against it as a form of corruption. As it is, I seem to recall that you've objected to CEO salaries at non-profits and their management actually delivers revenue for their organizations unlike politicians and government.

That's all very nice, but none of it does anything to convince anyone that "Bernie's a welfare queen" wasn't a stupid thing to say.

You can object to how high government salaries are by simply objecting to them. There's plenty of room to argue that position. Trying to sound wittier while doing so by making comparisons that are obviously absurd to literally everyone reading your posts only works against you in that endeavour, so maybe hold off until you learn a little more about how to be clever.

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adjl posted...

obviously absurd to literally everyone reading your posts

That's his specialty

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One of his houses was inherited from his dead MIL and another is a vacation cabin, or something like that. Maybe those were both, but still. Three houses is not necessarily some indicator of extravagant wealth. Again, his worth is in the low millions. Plenty of people in washington own houses that are individually worth more than his three combined. None of the numbers actually point to this being the huge "gotcha" that you think it is.

Also I thought you worked for the DOD, are you a welfare queen too?

Government salaries aren't really that high imo given the area they work in and the unique demands of the job like travel, etc. The problem is the amount of money they get from kickbacks. It's a livable salary plus has plenty of great benefits, nobody should need that extra on the side to begin with. Many are just using the office to get as rich as possible and that's horribly wrong.