Poll of the Day > Reminder that only one major Jedi has ever been killed

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Jedi are OP dude

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Reminder that only one major Jedi has ever gotten laid lmao

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I mean thats not even a little bit true

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but they're all dead

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A lot more than one. Even giving you the gray area on Luke, you still have Obi-Wan killed by Vader, Quigon killed by Maul, Mace by Sideous (and Mace is the smallest name on that list, despite featuring prominently in THREE movies), and that excludes the supporting material. In fact, out of all the Jedi appearing in the films, maybe three or four aren't murdered.

Naruto_fan_42 posted...

Jedi are OP dude

At the start of ANH (the first SW film), the Jedi Order is basically dead, so they aren't very OP. At that point, people are amazed that any Jedi still exist, despite the fact that like 20 years earlier they were common and had a peace-keeping organization that stretched throughout the galaxy.

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Mead posted...

I mean thats not even a little bit true

It really depends on your criteria. But even then, I'm not sure if he's referring to Mace or Qui-Gon.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

It really depends on your criteria. But even then, I'm not sure if he's referring to Mace or Qui-Gon.

what about Obi-Wan

in addition to the two you mention, or all the Jedi killed in episode 3

Kit Fisto was cool dammit


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Blightzkrieg posted...

It really depends on your criteria. But even then, I'm not sure if he's referring to Mace or Qui-Gon.

Sorry, Im stupid. I forgot about Mace getting yote out the window. Still, two is pretty good. Vader didnt kill Obi-wan, he evaporated before Vaders strike hit.

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I wouldn't count Obi-Wan. We can infer that Vader would have killed him had the duel proceeded, but he still backed out.

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Mace Windu isn't confirmed dead.


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Naruto_fan_42 posted...

Sorry, Im stupid. I forgot about Mace getting yote out the window. Still, two is pretty good. Vader didnt kill Obi-wan, he evaporated before Vaders strike hit.

thats silly

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Naruto_fan_42 posted...

Sorry, Im stupid. I forgot about Mace getting yote out the window. Still, two is pretty good. Vader didnt kill Obi-wan, he evaporated before Vaders strike hit.

Obi-Wan literally prefaced his death with "If you strike me down" before being struck down. The fact he evaporated instead of leaving a corpse was because Lucas hadn't fleshed out Jedi mechanics at that point.

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Zeus posted...

At the start of ANH (the first SW film), the Jedi Order is basically dead, so they aren't very OP. At that point, people are amazed that any Jedi still exist, despite the fact that like 20 years earlier they were common and had a peace-keeping organization that stretched throughout the galaxy.

The time scale on that really is kind of odd. The galaxy has pretty much forgotten everything about the Jedi despite the fact that the Jedi were a very big deal within living memory. Sure, they were all but wiped out and no longer have a significant presence, and the Empire didn't exactly do much to keep their memory alive, but that'd be like none of us knowing that the Soviet Union was a thing.

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mace is probably not actually dead

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Zeus posted...

At the start of ANH (the first SW film),

fourth*

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adjl posted...

The time scale on that really is kind of odd. The galaxy has pretty much forgotten everything about the Jedi despite the fact that the Jedi were a very big deal within living memory. Sure, they were all but wiped out and no longer have a significant presence, and the Empire didn't exactly do much to keep their memory alive, but that'd be like none of us knowing that the Soviet Union was a thing.

Which I guess you could also chalk up to there not being enough of a plan originally being in place so that things would be better reflected in the OT's story. That or they needed to *really* scale back the PT.

Also it's weird to think how short of a time the Empire existed, especially when you see the Emperor and you figure, "Oh, he's this super old-looking dude," where the automatic assumption is that he's been ruling for a very, very long time.

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Far-Queue posted...

fourth*

It's episode 4 of the saga but it's still the first star wars movie to be released.

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Zeus posted...

Which I guess you could also chalk up to there not being enough of a plan originally being in place so that things would be better reflected in the OT's story. That or they needed to *really* scale back the PT.

Pretty much. Lucas was very much making it up as he went along with little regard for inconsistencies like that. Realistically, given the size of the Empire and the degree to which the Jedi had vanished from the public memory, if the goal of the PT was really to tell the story of Anakin's fall, the Jedi should already have been near extinction and the Empire should already have been well established. Having both of those things happen within a mere 20 years just isn't that plausible.

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well maybe in star wars one year is like four our years

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Joe_Biden posted...

well maybe in star wars one year is like four our years

This is possible, but it still doesn't explain how the Jedi have become so completely forgotten when they were so prominent within living memory. Disney's Atlantis ran into the same issue: They tried to claim that the Atlanteans had forgotten their entire history and written language, despite that history and the written language's use having happened very comfortably within most of their lifespans (not just "old people were there," pretty much everyone in the city that wasn't already elderly when the calamity struck was still alive).

People forgetting their history is one thing, and perfectly plausible, but the degree to which the Jedi had vanished from the public memory is more in line with the passage of several generations, not the amount of time it takes for Luke to go from being a newborn to a young adult.

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Joe_Biden posted...

mace is probably not actually dead

Yeah I get the feeling their gonna use him as a way to piss off Boba Fett.

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I still cant believe they made a movie that ends with luke skywalker using the force so hard that he dies

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