Poll of the Day > Sony removing Cyberpunk 2077 from PSN store

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https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/cyberpunk-2077-refunds/

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??? wtf

how did they botch this so bad lmao

embarrassing

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Oh damn, full refunds too.

"They should have delayed it longer" people say about a game that was in development for over 8 years.

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TheWitchMorgana posted...

how did they botch this so bad lmao

embarrassing

every day another layer is removed just even more stuff that isnt finished or implemented into the game

what the fuck happened during the development

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faramir77 posted...

"They should have delayed it longer" people say about a game that was in development for over 8 years.

yeah and they still had to crunch for well over a year (after saying they weren't going to) and the game still released a broken mess, wild isn't it

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It honestly feels like they bit off more than they could chew from the outside.

faramir77 posted...

"They should have delayed it longer" people say about a game that was in development for over 8 years.

rumors are that the released game was actually only being developed since 2018 cause they scrapped the entire build they had up to that point


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They should just remove it from the PS4, not the PS5.

It works fine on PS5 and Xbox Series X.

So the game is that bad on Sony consoles?

BlackScythe0 posted...

So the game is that bad on Sony consoles?

On PS4/Xbone, yes. Honestly I'm surprised they didn't just cancel the PS4/Xbone versions. Anyone with half a brain could tell that the preview builds they'd shown would never in a million years run like that on those systems.

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This removed Reddit post seems like it could be pretty close to the mark

https://www.removeddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kda4b2/i_think_i_know_what_happened_with_cyberpunk_2077/

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Mead posted...

This removed Reddit post seems like it could be pretty close to the mark

https://www.removeddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kda4b2/i_think_i_know_what_happened_with_cyberpunk_2077/

Doesn't seem removed to me when I just go to:
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kda4b2/i_think_i_know_what_happened_with_cyberpunk_2077/

I could absolutely see that as a failure, plus, imagine releasing a Cyberpunk 2020 game in the year 2021. It just... seems way too much off.

God, I just rewatched the original trailer again, that's what I wanted when it comes to the game.

shadowsword87 posted...

Doesn't seem removed to me when I just go to:

ah it must have been put back up by another mod

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Zangulus posted...

They delayed it for polish, and when the older generation consoles ran like absolute ass, they said they didnt spend any time making sure those systems would work and told people to go to Sony for refunds. Sony promptly yanks the game.

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Mead posted...

ah it must have been put back up by another mod

Why would it have been removed at all?

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Smarkil posted...

Why would it have been removed at all?

one of the subs mods must have thought it was off topic or something, idk

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Mead posted...

one of the subs mods must have thought it was off topic or something, idk

mod mustve been recruited from the gamefaqs mod staff

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The mods on Reddit are super strict. But AFAIK, thats also because certain boards are just ran by the people who created them, and the mods they choose...
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What the fuck? Can someone give me a really tldr version of this? Nothing ITT is making sense.

why exactly is cyberpunk being removed from PSN store? And why are people being given refunds?

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FatalAccident posted...

What the fuck? Can someone give me a really tldr version of this? Nothing ITT is making sense.

why exactly is cyberpunk being removed from PSN store? And why are people being given refunds?

Because running a next gen game on trash hardware 2013 is stupid

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FatalAccident posted...

What the fuck? Can someone give me a really tldr version of this? Nothing ITT is making sense.

why exactly is cyberpunk being removed from PSN store? And why are people being given refunds?

AFAIK, the game works horribly on the PS4, so Sony pulled it. Very minimal tl;dr...
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mhm.

works horribly is a fancier term for "barely functions at all"

i do need to note, because people are not the smartest, that if you have purchased the game digitally on the ps4 already, you can still play it, download it, do whatever with it. all this does is prevent people from purchasing it digitally right now.

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FatalAccident posted...

What the fuck? Can someone give me a really tldr version of this? Nothing ITT is making sense.

why exactly is cyberpunk being removed from PSN store? And why are people being given refunds?

The game is very buggy and a lot of expected or advertised features are missing. CDPR released a statement apologizing and saying people could get a refund if they want, and that they should request the refund through Sony/Microsoft customer service.

Problem is that it seems no one at CDPR effectively spoke to anyone at Sony before releasing the statement, and Sony has a pretty strict stance on refunds for digital games. There were many reports of gamers requesting a refund based on CDPRs statement but being denied.

So Sony is finally saying fine, if this game is so broken that people want refunds for it then okay, but we arent gonna be selling this broken ass game anymore if it isnt even gonna make us any money.

A lot of people think its gonna be back up on PSN as soon as the game is in a better state, but Im not so sure. Its unprecedented for a game of this caliber to be abruptly removed from a console storefront like this. I think CDPR really pissed off someone pretty high up the ladder at Sony.

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If they dont put it back up, some people will probably sell the PS4 systems with the game on it. Maybe... It wont be for a while, though...
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Oh wow. Is that just PlayStation or on Xbox as well?

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FatalAccident posted...

Oh wow. Is that just PlayStation or on Xbox as well?

Just PlayStation

LinkPizza posted...

If they dont put it back up, some people will probably sell the PS4 systems with the game on it. Maybe... It wont be for a while, though...

I dont think thatll happen this time because people could just get a disc version of the game

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Mead posted...

I dont think thatll happen this time because people could just get a disc version of the game

Yeahs. Because of the disc version, I figure it wont be for a while if it does happen. But it might not...
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everyone to blame here.
G*mers for overhyping a game.
Games journalism for overhyping a game.
CDPR for poor management/marketing and pushing out a broken product and promoting a toxic environment
S*ny for being authoritarian and creating a toxic gaming environment where they have to delist games because they don't do proper QA (problem for all store fronts tbh).

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Judgmenl posted...

CDPR for poor management/marketing and pushing out a broken product

actually this is really the only thing that happened

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

actually this is really the only thing that happened

Nah.
The 6 years+ of g*mers and influencers (and games journalism) overhyping a game is a huge problem.

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I'm playing on base PS4 and I'm only in act 2 but I've been pretty lucky with bugs, glitches, and crashes so far. Only one visual bug (firing an invisible shotgun) and one crash so far. Turning off all the visual effects seemed to help. Honestly I wouldn't have been upset seeing enemies flying into the ceiling or my character running at 500 mph

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Judgmenl posted...

Nah.
The 6 years+ of g*mers and influencers (and games journalism) overhyping a game is a huge problem.

sure, people set their expectations for games way too high but in this case, its because the devs released a broken pile of shit

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This is why I don't get games or systems on launch anymore. Been burned too many times in the ps4 era.


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Zangulus posted...

They delayed it for polish, and when the older generation consoles ran like absolute ass, they said they didnt spend any time making sure those systems would work and told people to go to Sony for refunds. Sony promptly yanks the game.

It's tempting to think a delayed game will be more polished, but often this isn't true. In some cases it is. I generally trust Nintendo when they delay something.

But often times delays are indicative of major issues. Aspects of a game being scrapped and redesigned, game breaking bugs, miscommunication in the management, or a dev team not being able to deliver the game as imagined. Sometimes the game is not even in active development when delayed. Most publishers would rather release a bad game if they can avoid a delay.

Duke Nukem Forever is the most infamous example. Anthem is another big one.

Dev time is a lot like budget. You'd think it would correlate with quality, but that's an oversimplification.

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Judgmenl posted...

Nah.
The 6 years+ of g*mers and influencers (and games journalism) overhyping a game is a huge problem.

yes clearly gamers are to blame for all the bugs and missing features in the game

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

sure, people set their expectations for games way too high but in this case, its because the devs released a broken pile of shit

This particular issue is completely CDPR's fault. The community's disappointment, however - up to and including physically assaulting a reviewer who dared to criticize one aspect of the game pre-launch (the blatant seizure triggers) - was also a consequence of overhyping it. Overhyping it is also part of why CDPR overextended themselves so much, since they knew they had very lofty expectations to live up to.

At the end of the day, yeah, CDPR delivered something barely functional and that's on them, as is this refund debacle, but overhyping was definitely a major issue with this game.

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Mead posted...

yes clearly gamers are to blame for all the bugs and missing features in the game

Yup they are, impatient little fucks.

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LinkPizza posted...

If they dont put it back up, some people will probably sell the PS4 systems with the game on it. Maybe... It wont be for a while, though...

...you can just buy a fuckin disc

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SilentSeph posted...

I'm playing on base PS4 and I'm only in act 2 but I've been pretty lucky with bugs, glitches, and crashes so far. Only one visual bug (firing an invisible shotgun) and one crash so far. Turning off all the visual effects seemed to help. Honestly I wouldn't have been upset seeing enemies flying into the ceiling or my character running at 500 mph

Itll happen. Just wait. Ive had about 2 dozen crashes, a good amount of glitches (sounds not occurring when I pull the trigger, mantis blading invisible bodies), and the most annoying one: running to an objective and getting there before everythings loaded in so Im all of a sudden surrounded by enemies. Ive learned to stop a couple hundred feet away and give it a second to load in.

having said that, Im level 37 and have over 60 hours. Im enjoying it a lot and honestly Im just treating this as a full-blown demo until either I update my gaming PC or the PS5 version comes out.

Judgmenl posted...

Yup they are, impatient little fucks.

Honestly, it doesn't sound like further delays would have fixed the problems, at least not without going so far as to Duke Nukem Forever it and make everyone stop caring. Yes, they would have faced a fan backlash if they pushed it back another year, and even more of a shareholder backlash (which they care about a whole lot more than interwebs people), but it sounds like it would still have been a substantial effort to put out a complete game that quickly.

Cacciato posted...

the most annoying one: running to an objective and getting there before everythings loaded in so Im all of a sudden surrounded by enemies. Ive learned to stop a couple hundred feet away and give it a second to load in.

Flashbacks to some of the doors in Metroid Prime >.>

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helIy posted...

...you can just buy a fuckin disc

Eww

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adjl posted...

Flashbacks to some of the doors in Metroid Prime >.>

I never played Metroid Prime, but in this one you can run or drive up to them and theyre just there stuck in PS2 graphics mode until the game catches up. Wont even open until then.

Cacciato posted...

I never played Metroid Prime, but in this one you can run or drive up to them and theyre just there stuck in PS2 graphics mode until the game catches up. Wont even open until then.

Metroid Prime used doors as a means of buffering its load times. In general, you opened doors by shooting them, at which point they'd stop glowing and open whenever you got close enough to them. Every now and then, though, the room wouldn't finish loading by the time you got to the door, so you'd just run awkwardly into it and have to wait a few seconds for it to open. There were definitely times this got me - if not outright killed - more damaged than I would have liked because I was trying to just run past enemies and had to wait in a rather vulnerable spot for a few seconds because the door was slow.

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adjl posted...

Metroid Prime used doors as a means of buffering its load times. In general, you opened doors by shooting them, at which point they'd stop glowing and open whenever you got close enough to them. Every now and then, though, the room wouldn't finish loading by the time you got to the door, so you'd just run awkwardly into it and have to wait a few seconds for it to open. There were definitely times this got me - if not outright killed - more damaged than I would have liked because I was trying to just run past enemies and had to wait in a rather vulnerable spot for a few seconds because the door was slow.

God, I hated that. It was such a clumsy loading method.

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It worked reasonably well most of the time, and I'm not really sure how they could have done it better except to tone down the visuals enough to be able to load more rooms simultaneously (I certainly wouldn't prefer an actual load screen between rooms), or possibly introduce more hallways between rooms to act as quasi-loading screens (which makes for more awkward, unpleasant level design). The occasional wait in front of an unresponsive door was pretty bothersome, though.

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Remember when Metroid Prime 4 was a thing that was gonna exist

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