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Halo478 12/15/20 2:28:53 PM #1:	https://kotaku.com/cd-projekt-red-clears-up-misconceptions-says-no-speci-1845886880 CD Projekt Red Clears Up 'Misconceptions, Says No Special Refund Policy In Place For Cyberpunk 2077 --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUOhpQDDME4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSF0jiKodDU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brqZha8_PDk <cite>Halo478 posted [p:948368694] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote> https://kotaku.com/cd-projekt-red-clears-up-misconceptions-says-no-speci-1845886880 CD Projekt Red Clears Up 'Misconceptions, Says No Special Refund Policy In Place For Cyberpunk 2077 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/15/20 2:31:32 PM #2:	What a shitshow. So either someone up top forced them to reverse their position on refunds, or their original apology was literally just a "don't like it? Take it back to gamestop". The latter feels WAY too douchy given CDPR's reputation, so something tells me this is an actual reversal due to executive meddling. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:948368786] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>What a shitshow. So either someone up top forced them to reverse their position on refunds, or their original apology was literally just a "don't like it? Take it back to gamestop". The latter feels WAY too douchy given CDPR's reputation, so something tells me this is an actual reversal due to executive meddling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/15/20 2:32:45 PM #3:	Man how could they screw this up so badly. It really feels like they're pulling a me - trying to keep everyone happy but just putting themselves in a stupid spot and ruining all of their relations. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving/Crafting/RC https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:948368829] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Man how could they screw this up so badly. It really feels like they're pulling a me - trying to keep everyone happy but just putting themselves in a stupid spot and ruining all of their relations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 12/15/20 2:32:53 PM #4:	https://youtu.be/VhvDy8h3FG8 --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:948368834] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/VhvDy8h3FG8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AP3Brain 12/15/20 2:33:12 PM #5:	How would refunds work for non-digital games anyways? Users would have to send their physical copies to CDPR? Logistically it seems pretty unrealistic even if they owe something to players for fucking up the console versions... Also reading the article nobody "lied". They just told people to return the game if they are unhappy about it. Nothing about offering their own return system. <cite>AP3Brain posted [p:948368847] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>How would refunds work for non-digital games anyways? Users would have to send their physical copies to CDPR? Logistically it seems pretty unrealistic even if they owe something to players for fucking up the console versions... Also reading the article nobody "lied". They just told people to return the game if they are unhappy about it. Nothing about offering their own return system. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/15/20 2:33:15 PM #6:	I am so shocked a company that lied about the state of the product they put out would also lie about being able to refund it. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:948368849] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>I am so shocked a company that lied about the state of the product they put out would also lie about being able to refund it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 12/15/20 2:34:25 PM #7:	I would imagine Sony and MS are the holdup here, they've never been very accommodating on refunds of digital purchases. And retail games? LOL good luck. Nobody refunds those. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:948368895] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>I would imagine Sony and MS are the holdup here, they've never been very accommodating on refunds of digital purchases. And retail games? LOL good luck. Nobody refunds those. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/15/20 2:34:29 PM #8:	Lost_All_Senses posted... https://youtu.be/VhvDy8h3FG8 I see you and raise you one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKvodRmM35Y --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving/Crafting/RC https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:948368900] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/VhvDy8h3FG8</quote>I see you and raise you one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKvodRmM35Y </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 12/15/20 2:36:18 PM #9:	Gamestop offered a full value credit within 2 days. Im sure lots of people took them up on it. Ypl be seeing tons of pre used cyberpunks on the shelves lol. As for me i am content with the game. Having a blast cause i love the genre for books. --- If you can see this message it's a wonder why it hasn't been modded yet by the snowflakes. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:948368972] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Gamestop offered a full value credit within 2 days. Im sure lots of people took them up on it. Ypl be seeing tons of pre used cyberpunks on the shelves lol. As for me i am content with the game. Having a blast cause i love the genre for books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Halo478 12/15/20 2:36:40 PM #10:	Investors twice asked CDPR to clarify what was going on with refunds, concerned about how they might impact the games sales. The company isnt ready to say how many refunds have been processed, in part because much of that process is subject to Sony and Microsofts refund rules. *Yeah looks like the money guys said no to refunds* --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUOhpQDDME4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSF0jiKodDU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brqZha8_PDk <cite>Halo478 posted [p:948368990] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Investors twice asked CDPR to clarify what was going on with refunds, concerned about how they might impact the games sales. The company isnt ready to say how many refunds have been processed, in part because much of that process is subject to Sony and Microsofts refund rules. Yeah looks like the money guys said no to refunds </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 12/15/20 2:38:34 PM #11:	Lost_All_Senses posted... https://youtu.be/VhvDy8h3FG8 --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta/hungry ghost Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:948369059] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/VhvDy8h3FG8</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hippocrates 12/15/20 2:39:15 PM #12:	But CDPR are the money guys. Don't like the 3 top dogs there hold a 40% stake between just them? <cite>Hippocrates posted [p:948369086] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>But CDPR are the money guys. Don't like the 3 top dogs there hold a 40% stake between just them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/15/20 2:40:15 PM #13:	Hippocrates posted... But CDPR are the money guys. Don't like the 3 top dogs there hold a 40% stake between just them? That would imply that none of them (or even all of them, combined) have enough shareholder votes to keep them from being fired if it went to vote. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:948369127] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Hippocrates posted... </cite> <quote>But CDPR are the money guys. Don't like the 3 top dogs there hold a 40% stake between just them?</quote> That would imply that none of them (or even all of them, combined) have enough shareholder votes to keep them from being fired if it went to vote. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hippocrates 12/15/20 2:41:44 PM #14:	s0nicfan posted... That would imply that none of them (or even all of them, combined) have enough shareholder votes to keep them from being fired if it went to vote. Or maybe they're just as scummy as everyone pretends they aren't <cite>Hippocrates posted [p:948369179] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>That would imply that none of them (or even all of them, combined) have enough shareholder votes to keep them from being fired if it went to vote.</quote>Or maybe they're just as scummy as everyone pretends they aren't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/15/20 2:44:30 PM #15:	Hippocrates posted... Or maybe they're just as scummy as everyone pretends they aren't That's the worldview you choose to have. CDPR has spent a long time going out of their way to be positive towards their fanbase. These actions here just don't line up with their actual history. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:948369279] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Hippocrates posted... </cite> <quote>Or maybe they're just as scummy as everyone pretends they aren't</quote> That's the worldview you choose to have. CDPR has spent a long time going out of their way to be positive towards their fanbase. These actions here just don't line up with their actual history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/15/20 2:45:15 PM #16:	Not only was the letter signed by the CEO it was signed by the guy who is now saying it was a misconception. It was a hollow apology. s0nicfan posted... That's the worldview you choose to have. CDPR has spent a long time going out of their way to be positive towards their fanbase. These actions here just don't line up with their actual history. How naive can you be? They've never released a game in this state before either. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:948369307] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Not only was the letter signed by the CEO it was signed by the guy who is now saying it was a misconception. It was a hollow apology. s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>That's the worldview you choose to have. CDPR has spent a long time going out of their way to be positive towards their fanbase. These actions here just don't line up with their actual history.</quote> How naive can you be? They've never released a game in this state before either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hippocrates 12/15/20 2:45:15 PM #17:	s0nicfan posted... That's the worldview you choose to have. It was an alternate viewpoint I offered, nothing more. I know nothing about CDPR and won't subscribe to any theory unless it comes out. Was just throwing it out there <cite>Hippocrates posted [p:948369309] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>That's the worldview you choose to have.</quote>It was an alternate viewpoint I offered, nothing more. I know nothing about CDPR and won't subscribe to any theory unless it comes out. Was just throwing it out there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlockAddition 12/15/20 3:06:39 PM #18:	Hexenherz posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKvodRmM35Y Man game looks like a crappy gta clone even w/o the glitches --- wow <cite>BlockAddition posted [p:948370180] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted... </cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKvodRmM35Y</quote>Man game looks like a crappy gta clone even w/o the glitches </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 12/15/20 3:11:04 PM #19:	fuck sony and their "cant refund, you downloaded the game". its a broken game they didnt even bother to verify was working, fucking scum. --- https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM <cite>ModLogic posted [p:948370353] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>fuck sony and their "cant refund, you downloaded the game". its a broken game they didnt even bother to verify was working, fucking scum. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Number090684 12/15/20 3:14:01 PM #20:	Death to the company CDPR! These bastards aren't worth funding for putting out shit like this in the first place. --- US N Switch "Number" FC SW-3804-3177-9797 US PS3 / PS4 / PS Vita PSN: Number090684 <cite>Number090684 posted [p:948370473] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Death to the company CDPR! These bastards aren't worth funding for putting out shit like this in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 12/15/20 3:14:52 PM #21:	DarthAragorn posted... I would imagine Sony and MS are the holdup here, they've never been very accommodating on refunds of digital purchases. And retail games? LOL good luck. Nobody refunds those. Sony already offered refunds --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:948370512] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite> <quote>I would imagine Sony and MS are the holdup here, they've never been very accommodating on refunds of digital purchases. And retail games? LOL good luck. Nobody refunds those.</quote>Sony already offered refunds </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/15/20 3:25:03 PM #22:	Refunds from Sony depend on the operator. But they haven't been given any explicit instruction from CDPR to refund the game. Seems like they're told that the game will be updated next month. https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1338910263270117378?s=19 --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:948370914] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Refunds from Sony depend on the operator. But they haven't been given any explicit instruction from CDPR to refund the game. Seems like they're told that the game will be updated next month. https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1338910263270117378?s=19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 12/15/20 3:26:40 PM #23:	AP3Brain posted... How would refunds work for non-digital games anyways? Users would have to send their physical copies to CDPR? Logistically it seems pretty unrealistic even if they owe something to players for fucking up the console versions... Also reading the article nobody "lied". They just told people to return the game if they are unhappy about it. Nothing about offering their own return system. They do offer their own return system though, just the same as any other game you buy from GOG. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:948370978] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>AP3Brain posted... </cite> <quote>How would refunds work for non-digital games anyways? Users would have to send their physical copies to CDPR? Logistically it seems pretty unrealistic even if they owe something to players for fucking up the console versions... Also reading the article nobody "lied". They just told people to return the game if they are unhappy about it. Nothing about offering their own return system.</quote> They do offer their own return system though, just the same as any other game you buy from GOG. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/15/20 3:31:06 PM #24:	They specifically made a big spiel about being able to return the game if you aren't happy. They knew what they were doing. Again it's deflecting responsibility from them by blaming others. They would have known refund policies for Xbox and PlayStation so why bring it up if most players aren't able to use it? Why specifically say they'll make arrangements for retailers who won't give refunds but say nothing about PlayStation and Xbox? By the sounds of it they haven't even organised a single thing with them. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:948371123] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>They specifically made a big spiel about being able to return the game if you aren't happy. They knew what they were doing. Again it's deflecting responsibility from them by blaming others. They would have known refund policies for Xbox and PlayStation so why bring it up if most players aren't able to use it? Why specifically say they'll make arrangements for retailers who won't give refunds but say nothing about PlayStation and Xbox? By the sounds of it they haven't even organised a single thing with them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 12/15/20 3:40:20 PM #25:	Peasant world problems --- Oda break tracker 2020- 8 (9) \| THE Ohio State: 5-0 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 7-5 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:948371457] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Peasant world problems</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 12/15/20 3:43:03 PM #26:	Guys cdpr is different they actually caaaare --- Common sense is a fudge round - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:948371574] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Guys cdpr is different they actually caaaare </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AP3Brain 12/15/20 3:43:04 PM #27:	Darmik posted... They specifically made a big spiel about being able to return the game if you aren't happy. They knew what they were doing. Where did they make a big spiel about returning the game through them? Not in the article. <cite>AP3Brain posted [p:948371575] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>They specifically made a big spiel about being able to return the game if you aren't happy. They knew what they were doing.</quote> Where did they make a big spiel about returning the game through them? Not in the article. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Halo478 12/15/20 3:46:06 PM #28:	https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1338390123373801472?s=20 you werent around yesterday for there bullshit tweet --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUOhpQDDME4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSF0jiKodDU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brqZha8_PDk <cite>Halo478 posted [p:948371696] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1338390123373801472?s=20 you werent around yesterday for there bullshit tweet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AP3Brain 12/15/20 3:47:29 PM #29:	That is the same statement that is in the article. NO WHERE does it say they are offering the refund services. They say to use PSN and Xbox or store refund. <cite>AP3Brain posted [p:948371761] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>That is the same statement that is in the article. NO WHERE does it say they are offering the refund services. They say to use PSN and Xbox or store refund. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 12/15/20 3:47:31 PM #30:	--- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 <cite>Strider102 posted [p:948371764] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Socrawheeze 12/15/20 3:48:59 PM #31:	What's nuts is reading posts on reddit like "I don't understand how anyone can say the world is lifeless/soulless" or "the AI is serviceable" <cite>Socrawheeze posted [p:948371830] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>What's nuts is reading posts on reddit like "I don't understand how anyone can say the world is lifeless/soulless" or "the AI is serviceable" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grogu 12/15/20 3:51:49 PM #33:	Socrawheeze posted... What's nuts is reading posts on reddit like "I don't understand how anyone can say the world is lifeless/soulless" or "the AI is serviceable" Not everyone plays the game like its GTA. The world is gorgeous, I dont need to be able to talk to random NPCs or follow them around all day, I have no interest in getting into fights with cops or attacking NPCs. It was exactly the same in the Witcher 3 and that was game of the generation. The AI for enemies is serviceable, though everything else is very basic. <cite>Grogu posted [p:948371928] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Socrawheeze posted...</cite> <quote>What's nuts is reading posts on reddit like "I don't understand how anyone can say the world is lifeless/soulless" or "the AI is serviceable" </quote> Not everyone plays the game like its GTA. The world is gorgeous, I dont need to be able to talk to random NPCs or follow them around all day, I have no interest in getting into fights with cops or attacking NPCs. It was exactly the same in the Witcher 3 and that was game of the generation. The AI for enemies is serviceable, though everything else is very basic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Socrawheeze 12/15/20 3:52:28 PM #34:	Grogu posted... Not everyone plays the game like its GTA Dude, this is no kind of counterpoint and it's the only response anyone has when this comes up. Get off the script <cite>Socrawheeze posted [p:948371951] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Grogu posted... </cite> <quote>Not everyone plays the game like its GTA</quote>Dude, this is no kind of counterpoint and it's the only response anyone has when this comes up. Get off the script </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grogu 12/15/20 3:53:27 PM #35:	How is the world lifeless though? Its exactly as lifeless as the Witcher 3. Yes its set dressing but thats the design choice. <cite>Grogu posted [p:948371992] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>How is the world lifeless though? Its exactly as lifeless as the Witcher 3. Yes its set dressing but thats the design choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Socrawheeze 12/15/20 3:56:40 PM #36:	Grogu posted... How is the world lifeless though Nothing about it is dynamic. The AI is non existent. NPCs will stand there, doing the same thing, forever. They'll disappear if you move a few feet or change your camera view. Every single NPC reacts the same way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUH6CF7gFkw I don't care if Witcher 3 also didn't have AI. It is 2020. That is bare minimum shit. It's valid that you're enjoying the game, but don't you sit here and shit down my throat about how it's not lifeless and has fine AI <cite>Socrawheeze posted [p:948372122] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Grogu posted... </cite> <quote>How is the world lifeless though</quote>Nothing about it is dynamic. The AI is non existent. NPCs will stand there, doing the same thing, forever. They'll disappear if you move a few feet or change your camera view. Every single NPC reacts the same way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUH6CF7gFkw I don't care if Witcher 3 also didn't have AI. It is 2020. That is bare minimum shit. It's valid that you're enjoying the game, but don't you sit here and shit down my throat about how it's not lifeless and has fine AI </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grogu 12/15/20 3:57:48 PM #37:	What do you want the NPCs to do? Like I honestly dont get this complaint. The world is a backdrop, not a sandbox <cite>Grogu posted [p:948372154] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>What do you want the NPCs to do? Like I honestly dont get this complaint. The world is a backdrop, not a sandbox</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/15/20 3:58:56 PM #38:	AP3Brain posted... That is the same statement that is in the article. NO WHERE does it say they are offering the refund services. They say to use PSN and Xbox or store refund. Yes and it's implied that won't be a problem. Grogu posted... Not everyone plays the game like its GTA. The world is gorgeous, I dont need to be able to talk to random NPCs or follow them around all day, I have no interest in getting into fights with cops or attacking NPCs. It was exactly the same in the Witcher 3 and that was game of the generation. The AI for enemies is serviceable, though everything else is very basic. The possibility to play it like a GTA game and go on a crime spree is still there. It was always seen as a possibility. It should have a higher standard than PS2 games. Even then you don't need to go on crime sprees to figure out the traffic doesn't have AI. Grogu posted... What do you want the NPCs to do? Like I honestly dont get this complaint. The world is a backdrop, not a sandbox Feel responsive. React differently to danger. Drive around obstacles in traffic. Give the ability for police to actually chase you. Ride motorbikes. Have the ability to enter vehicles. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:948372187] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>AP3Brain posted... </cite> <quote>That is the same statement that is in the article. NO WHERE does it say they are offering the refund services. They say to use PSN and Xbox or store refund.</quote> Yes and it's implied that won't be a problem. Grogu posted... </cite> <quote>Not everyone plays the game like its GTA. The world is gorgeous, I dont need to be able to talk to random NPCs or follow them around all day, I have no interest in getting into fights with cops or attacking NPCs. It was exactly the same in the Witcher 3 and that was game of the generation. The AI for enemies is serviceable, though everything else is very basic.</quote> The possibility to play it like a GTA game and go on a crime spree is still there. It was always seen as a possibility. It should have a higher standard than PS2 games. Even then you don't need to go on crime sprees to figure out the traffic doesn't have AI. Grogu posted... </cite> <quote>What do you want the NPCs to do? Like I honestly dont get this complaint. The world is a backdrop, not a sandbox</quote> Feel responsive. React differently to danger. Drive around obstacles in traffic. Give the ability for police to actually chase you. Ride motorbikes. Have the ability to enter vehicles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/15/20 4:00:27 PM #39:	Socrawheeze posted... Nothing about it is dynamic. The AI is non existent. NPCs will stand there, doing the same thing, forever. They'll disappear if you move a few feet or change your camera view. Every single NPC reacts the same way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUH6CF7gFkw I don't care if Witcher 3 also didn't have AI. It is 2020. That is bare minimum shit. It's valid that you're enjoying the game, but don't you sit here and shit down my throat about how it's not lifeless and has fine AI Let's not forget, CDPR advertised their game as some big open world where the npcs each have their own handicrafted routines. So the fact they basically all act the same is just another example of CDPR lying. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:948372239] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Socrawheeze posted... </cite> <quote>Nothing about it is dynamic. The AI is non existent. NPCs will stand there, doing the same thing, forever. They'll disappear if you move a few feet or change your camera view. Every single NPC reacts the same way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUH6CF7gFkw I don't care if Witcher 3 also didn't have AI. It is 2020. That is bare minimum shit. It's valid that you're enjoying the game, but don't you sit here and shit down my throat about how it's not lifeless and has fine AI</quote> Let's not forget, CDPR advertised their game as some big open world where the npcs each have their own handicrafted routines. So the fact they basically all act the same is just another example of CDPR lying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Socrawheeze 12/15/20 4:00:39 PM #40:	Grogu posted... What do you want the NPCs to do? https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/020/131/Spongebob_Lifegard.jpg <cite>Socrawheeze posted [p:948372251] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Grogu posted... </cite> <quote>What do you want the NPCs to do?</quote> https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/020/131/Spongebob_Lifegard.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grogu 12/15/20 4:00:43 PM #41:	Yeah they could improve the traffic AI. And honestly they should just remove the ability to commit crimes and kill NPCs, its not that type of game. <cite>Grogu posted [p:948372253] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Yeah they could improve the traffic AI. And honestly they should just remove the ability to commit crimes and kill NPCs, its not that type of game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Socrawheeze 12/15/20 4:01:45 PM #42:	Yeah player agency in an RPG is overrated, right? <cite>Socrawheeze posted [p:948372308] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Yeah player agency in an RPG is overrated, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grogu 12/15/20 4:02:14 PM #43:	Socrawheeze posted... https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/020/131/Spongebob_Lifegard.jpg No like honestly. How would the game be better if you could have meaningly conversations with NPCs? How would the game be better if you know NPCs do things when youre not watching? Like I say they should just remove the ability to murder civilians because its not that sort of game <cite>Grogu posted [p:948372325] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Socrawheeze posted...</cite> <quote> https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/020/131/Spongebob_Lifegard.jpg </quote> No like honestly. How would the game be better if you could have meaningly conversations with NPCs? How would the game be better if you know NPCs do things when youre not watching? Like I say they should just remove the ability to murder civilians because its not that sort of game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Socrawheeze 12/15/20 4:03:11 PM #44:	Yeah who needs immersion in an RPG, right? <cite>Socrawheeze posted [p:948372369] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Yeah who needs immersion in an RPG, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/15/20 4:03:44 PM #45:	Socrawheeze posted... Yeah who needs immersion in an RPG, right? tbf, I wouldn't call the current game an rpg. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:948372392] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Socrawheeze posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah who needs immersion in an RPG, right?</quote> tbf, I wouldn't call the current game an rpg. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grogu 12/15/20 4:05:02 PM #46:	This game has been critically praised for its immersion, just like Witcher 3 was. I agree with that. Never played a game with a city like this. Yeah its not perfect by any stretch. Much better than in Skyrim where you can hear the same voice actors repeat the same lines for all the amazing NPCs. <cite>Grogu posted [p:948372429] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>This game has been critically praised for its immersion, just like Witcher 3 was. I agree with that. Never played a game with a city like this. Yeah its not perfect by any stretch. Much better than in Skyrim where you can hear the same voice actors repeat the same lines for all the amazing NPCs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hippocrates 12/15/20 4:05:16 PM #47:	Tmaster148 posted... tbf, I wouldn't call the current game an rpg. Right? It's absolutely not an RPG. It's a kinda half-baked looter shooter that under the hood seems actually pretty linear But it was advertised as a genre-defining RPG, so I will hold it to that standard. <cite>Hippocrates posted [p:948372436] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>tbf, I wouldn't call the current game an rpg.</quote>Right? It's absolutely not an RPG. It's a kinda half-baked looter shooter that under the hood seems actually pretty linear But it was advertised as a genre-defining RPG, so I will hold it to that standard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/15/20 4:06:53 PM #48:	Tmaster148 posted... Let's not forget, CDPR advertised their game as some big open world where the npcs each have their own handicrafted routines. So the fact they basically all act the same is just another example of CDPR lying. https://youtu.be/vjF9GgrY9c0?t=776 "We've greatly enhanced our crowd and community systems. To create the most believable city in any open world game to date." --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:948372482] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Let's not forget, CDPR advertised their game as some big open world where the npcs each have their own handicrafted routines. So the fact they basically all act the same is just another example of CDPR lying.</quote> https://youtu.be/vjF9GgrY9c0?t=776 "We've greatly enhanced our crowd and community systems. To create the most believable city in any open world game to date." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 12/15/20 4:06:55 PM #49:	Really bummed the name Grogu was wasted on a troll account --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:948372484] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>Really bummed the name Grogu was wasted on a troll account </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/15/20 4:09:28 PM #50:	So what kind of game is it? I thought open world sand boxy was sort of the point. I didn't follow development too closely --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:948372562] in So CDPR wa... [t:79177477]...</cite> <quote>So what kind of game is it? I thought open world sand boxy was sort of the point. I didn't follow development too closely </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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