Poll of the Day > US hit 199k COVID-19 cases yesterday. When will it stop?

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Judgmenl
11/21/20 1:31:33 PM
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300k? 400k? Are we just going to keep on going until we kill off 10% of our population?
2000 people die from this virus every day.

Between 2010 and 2020, the highest number of Flu deaths in any given year was estimated at 61,000 in the 2017-2018 flu season. We have had 250k COVID-19 deaths since March - and things are only getting worse.


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Crimson2
11/21/20 1:46:55 PM
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So what?
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OhhhJa
11/21/20 1:49:10 PM
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It ends when our hero and savior Biden gets in and puts a stop to this
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Muscles
11/21/20 1:53:53 PM
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I don't really see this stopping until we start developing heard immunity, even complete lock downs like in Italy just pushed it off into the future

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faramir77
11/21/20 1:55:38 PM
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It's embarrassing how many people straight up refuse to take even the slightest precautions.

As selfish as it sounds, I'm trying to come up with a way to establish documented proof that I wasn't an anti masker or a COVID denier during all this. The shame of being an ignorant, stupid coward during a major historic global pandemic will hang over the heads of anti maskers and COVID deniers for decades.

We're being asked to reduce the number of public engagements we attend, wash our hands, and wear a face mask in public. This isn't fucking hard. Yet anti maskers call these basic hygienic tasks oppressive, because they don't know what oppression means.

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CaptainStrong
11/21/20 1:59:58 PM
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When people who refuse masks and vaccines get thrown in prison.
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Crimson2
11/21/20 2:07:02 PM
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I don't get why you care what anyone else does. You make your choices, they make theirs.
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adjl
11/21/20 2:09:43 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
I don't get why you care what anyone else does.

Because what they do directly affects my personal risk level. Why do people struggle so much with this concept?

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faramir77
11/21/20 2:11:09 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
I don't get why you care what anyone else does. You make your choices, they make theirs.

I don't care about the choices people make when those choices don't affect anyone other than themselves.

When their choices have consequences for others, it becomes a problem. This is why drinking and driving is illegal.

I don't like the idea of government requiring people to wear face masks in public, but given that people are overwhelmingly too stubborn to do so themselves, I see it as an unfortunate necessity.

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CaptainStrong
11/21/20 2:11:30 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
I don't get why you care what anyone else does. You make your choices, they make theirs.
Because their choices can affect anyone that goes anywhere near them. Do you think people should be allowed to drive drunk too?
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Crimson2
11/21/20 2:24:36 PM
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adjl posted...
Because what they do directly affects my personal risk level. Why do people struggle so much with this concept?

No it doesn't. And those that do wear one need to stop trolling those who don't because they'll just do it for spite. That's why fights break out. Mind your business and let things be.
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ParanoidObsessive
11/21/20 2:28:27 PM
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Muscles posted...
I don't really see this stopping until we start developing heard immunity, even complete lock downs like in Italy just pushed it off into the future

This.

Literally everything we've done since this started was stalling until we got a vaccine. Absolutely nothing was going to change that fact.

Short of being able to go into total lockdown for a year where nothing other than the most vital services are allowed to operate, nothing was really going to stop this. And that level of shutdown was never going to be feasible, because it would create an entire host of other problems that would last long after the virus itself was contained (and would be absolutely worthless the first time someone from outside the country comes in and restarts the whole process).

As hard as it can be for people who've lived in relative affluence with no real hardship for 20+ years to understand, we're probably handling this about as well as we can, considering the circumstances. We could certainly have flattened the curve even more, and reduced the infection rate and casualties a bit more than we have, but this was never going to be a situation where we flipped a magical "Solve the Problem" switch and it was over in a couple of weeks, no matter what overly optimistic people were saying back in March.

The best anyone can do is take your own precautions and try to protect yourself and your own loved ones, and try and wait things out until we get a vaccine and establish enough herd immunity to kind of clamp down on it.

If anything, the real problem is the lack of coordinated effort - some states have done a pretty good job of keeping things relatively under control (as much as possible), others, not so much. Granted, different conditions and population factors exist in each, so there's likely no one universal solution or plan that would work, but some states certainly needed to get a better handle on things.
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faramir77
11/21/20 2:28:31 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
No it doesn't. And those that do wear one need to stop trolling those who don't because they'll just do it for spite. That's why fights break out. Mind your business and let things be.

Yes, it does. Nearly every epidemiologist recognizes that masks significantly reduce the spread of the virus.

"Minding your business" is being complacent to behaviour that is killing people. Wear a fucking mask when you go to the grocery store and stop being a little bitch.

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adjl
11/21/20 2:34:22 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
No it doesn't.

It objectively does. Other people wearing masks substantially reduces their risk of transmitting it to me (which compounds the protection provided by my own mask), plus the further reduction in risk that stems from overall case numbers being reduced. This is not remotely up for debate. The only possible way you can argue against it is either by outright lying about what you believe (which, you know, don't.) or by willingly disregarding every single piece of data that has been collected on this pandemic (which is just plain stupid).

Just wear a mask. It's not going to hurt you, and you might save a life.

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CaptainStrong
11/21/20 2:34:53 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
No it doesn't. And those that do wear one need to stop trolling those who don't because they'll just do it for spite. That's why fights break out. Mind your business and let things be.
Do you not care that people that don't wear masks are responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths? How would you feel if you got the virus and spread it to someone and they ended up dying because of it? Would you feel any guilt at all? Is it really worth killing people just so you won't have to deal with the mild annoyance of wearing a mask?
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Jen0125
11/21/20 2:35:27 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
I don't get why you care what anyone else does. You make your choices, they make theirs.

I didn't chose to go to a Halloween party with no masks but I got infected by them anyway. Other people's choices affect everyone in this matter.

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Metalsonic66
11/21/20 2:42:45 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
No it doesn't. And those that do wear one need to stop trolling those who don't because they'll just do it for spite. That's why fights break out. Mind your business and let things be.


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Black_Crusher
11/21/20 2:47:23 PM
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It continues because people gotta' party, I guess.

I wear a mask all the time, wash a lot, sanitize after anything public-related, etc. Still at my work the other day I saw three contractors all hanging out two feet apart with their masks around their necks blabbing all the live long day. These dum dum types outnumber us by quite a bit. Therefore I don't see it ending anytime soon. But it won't be because of my lack of trying to prevent it.

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Crimson2
11/21/20 3:05:11 PM
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None of you are right. But hey, keep pissing people off so they leave their masks at home on purpose. You're at fault more than they are really. Instigators - whether social, political, or racial, have continued to rile people up when they should have shut the hell up and went about their day. It's just your style to blame anyone but yourself, which is part of that instigation.

Wanna know why other countries have lower rates? Their citizens aren't as interested in attacking everyone who does something differently.
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CaptainStrong
11/21/20 3:11:35 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
None of you are right. But hey, keep pissing people off so they leave their masks at home on purpose. You're at fault more than they are really. Instigators - whether social, political, or racial, have continued to rile people up when they should have shut the hell up and went about their day. It's just your style to blame anyone but yourself, which is part of that instigation.

Wanna know why other countries have lower rates? Their citizens aren't as interested in attacking everyone who does something differently.
No, it's because the other countries aren't full of total fucking dumbasses and they take serious problems seriously.

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Metalsonic66
11/21/20 3:14:13 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
None of you are right. But hey, keep pissing people off so they leave their masks at home on purpose. You're at fault more than they are really. Instigators - whether social, political, or racial, have continued to rile people up when they should have shut the hell up and went about their day. It's just your style to blame anyone but yourself, which is part of that instigation.

Wanna know why other countries have lower rates? Their citizens aren't as interested in attacking everyone who does something differently.


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NightMareBunny
11/21/20 3:33:17 PM
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You can blame trump for the conspiracy nuts who believe covid-19 is a hoax

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DrCidd
11/21/20 3:34:25 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
No it doesn't. And those that do wear one need to stop trolling those who don't because they'll just do it for spite. That's why fights break out. Mind your business and let things be.

Yeah, it's really stupid when you think about it. When you go argue with someone who isn't wearing a mask about wearing a mask, you're just exposing yourself. If you'd just leave well enough alone and not engage anti-maskers you'd be less at-risk too.

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adjl
11/21/20 3:47:01 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
None of you are right.

Have you got an actual reason to believe that?

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Crimson2
11/21/20 4:06:43 PM
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Zangulus posted...
You really have a warped sense of reality. But sure, blame the people who are actually trying to prevent the spread of a preventable disease.

The fucking idea that they have less cases because people dont care what others do... is literally the biggest mood of 2020 Ive ever seen. And by they I mean fucking stupid. But you do you.

Prevent how? By being a pest? As I said - never your fault is it? People with your mindset are awful and disgusting. That's a fact.
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Crimson2
11/21/20 4:13:16 PM
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NightMareBunny posted...
You can blame trump for the conspiracy nuts who believe covid-19 is a hoax

It's not a hoax. Truth is it's no more concerning than the flu. Nobody wore masks for that. Nor lived in paranoia and trolled the rest of the population. No this became a thing because the haters tied it to political reasons.

If you're at risk or THAT worked up over it, stay the hell home and let everyone else be. Or you know, whatever, keep going to parties and blaming everyone but yourself.
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Crimson2
11/21/20 4:18:14 PM
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adjl posted...
Have you got an actual reason to believe that?

Definitely. Have any of you said 'it's my fault' yet? If not then why assume everything else written isn't also a lie.
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JigsawTDC
11/21/20 4:20:46 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
I don't get why you care what anyone else does. You make your choices, they make theirs.

You're not CrimsonJesus by any chance, are you?
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Crimson2
11/21/20 4:21:24 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Good lord, you couldn't follow a basic train of thought if it ran you over and hooked your pants leg.

The truth hurts, sweetie. Sorry I wasn't more concerned about your feelings over reality.

Wait. No I'm not.
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Metalsonic66
11/21/20 4:23:23 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
Truth is it's no more concerning than the flu.


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Judgmenl
11/21/20 4:36:21 PM
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adjl posted...
Because what they do directly affects my personal risk level. Why do people struggle so much with this concept?
They don't "struggle" with anything. They just want to "own the libs" with their stupidity.

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Lokarin
11/21/20 4:42:22 PM
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covid deaths on par to exceed WW2 deaths...

Trump caused WW2

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Crimson2
11/21/20 4:49:30 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Oh look, the disingenuous non response when you dont have any actual substance to respond with. Otherwise known as your entire logic regarding Covid.

I love the irony. Why should I be tasked with providing substance when you can't? Oh no you're salty about masks. Call someone who cares. Don't come crying to me when you get socked in the eye for starting a fight.
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Sticky_Derp
11/21/20 4:53:46 PM
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You guys are so painfully getting trolled by a probably ban-dodging alt

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JigsawTDC
11/21/20 4:54:48 PM
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@Crimson2 can you plz answer my question. Are you CrimsonJesus?
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Metalsonic66
11/21/20 4:59:44 PM
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Sticky_Derp posted...
You guys are so painfully getting trolled by a probably ban-dodging alt

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JigsawTDC
11/21/20 5:01:12 PM
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Oh wait a sec. Crimson2 is probably Wanded or something, since that dude's main got purg'd right around the creation of this dude.
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Crimson2
11/21/20 6:08:52 PM
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Zangulus posted...
How is it painful if it doesn't affect you?

Wait a sec though. You're posting in a topic about others not wearing masks, which we've already determined doesn't affect you as long as you mind your own business. What exactly ARE you whining about then?

Or perhaps I was right all along and there isn't a reason other than seeking attention.
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Metalsonic66
11/21/20 6:21:51 PM
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Crimson2 posted...
others not wearing masks, which we've already determined doesn't affect you as long as you mind your own business.


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keyblader1985
11/21/20 6:26:38 PM
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JigsawTDC
11/21/20 6:30:59 PM
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Zangulus posted...
You literally have no basic English comprehension what so ever.

Wanded alt confirmed!
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