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averagejoel
10/01/20 10:45:29 PM
#51:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
I believe in spanking.

I dont believe in beating.
they are not distinct behaviours

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modena
10/01/20 10:46:19 PM
#52:


Turbam posted...
There's a huge difference between spanking and beating.
Yup.

Also I remember as a kid you were afraid to act up in public when your parents weren't looking.Because there would always be some random old lady to snatch you up and tell you "you better hope I find your parents" lol

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ChrisTaka
10/01/20 10:47:44 PM
#53:


Aeriis posted...
I picked an article for you that I think is easy to understand: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3447048/

if you would like anymore or need any help, lmk :3

Ah shit it's a .gov article. That means it's authentic

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Smackems
10/01/20 10:47:54 PM
#54:


People really trying to lie to themselves and others that there is no difference between a spanking and a beating

Lmao this board and its mental gymnastics crack me up sometimes

And fwiw I've never spanked a kid despite watching them for years. There are better ways to discipline imo

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averagejoel
10/01/20 10:50:07 PM
#55:


ChrisTaka posted...
Ah shit it's a .gov article. That means it's authentic
feel free to provide an equally credible source that says differently.

actually:

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/

make that two

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Trickfinger
10/01/20 10:51:02 PM
#56:


Aeriis posted...
there is countless research on why physically punishing your kids is a terrible thing to do

but I feel like the kind of person who hits their kids =/= kind of person who reads research


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Trickfinger
10/01/20 10:51:32 PM
#57:


Smackems posted...
People really trying to lie to themselves and others that there is no difference between a spanking and a beating
what's the difference?

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RedJackson
10/01/20 10:52:43 PM
#58:


Trickfinger posted...
what's the difference?

The difference being I would've preferred a spanking
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averagejoel
10/01/20 10:52:48 PM
#59:


Smackems posted...
People really trying to lie to themselves and others that there is no difference between a spanking and a beating

Lmao this board and its mental gymnastics crack me up sometimes
"beating" is a broader category which contains "spanking"

and don't bring sex stuff into this. that's done with the explicit consent of the person being hit. children are being hit against their will

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ChrisTaka
10/01/20 10:53:00 PM
#60:


averagejoel posted...
feel free to provide an equally credible source that says differently.

actually:

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/

make that two

I didn't mean to sound sarcastic lol. It's just that not a lot of people here use use those type of websites as sources (especially in an argument)

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cuttin_in_farm
10/01/20 10:57:04 PM
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Aeriis posted...
I picked an article for you that I think is easy to understand: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3447048/

if you would like anymore or need any help, lmk :3

This will be read later tonight.

Please do not mistake silence for ignoring. But thank you for not trolling.

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RedJackson
10/01/20 10:58:38 PM
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Does that article go into cultural differences? I'm probably not going to read it tbqh
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Bad_Mojo
10/01/20 11:16:43 PM
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RedJackson posted...
Does that article go into cultural differences? I'm probably not going to read it tbqh

There is nothing fucking cultural about hitting your kid.

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ChrisTaka
10/01/20 11:20:57 PM
#66:


Bad_Mojo posted...
There is nothing fucking cultural about hitting your kid.

I mean ....

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Bad_Mojo
10/01/20 11:29:30 PM
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voldothegr8
10/01/20 11:34:45 PM
#68:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
I believe in spanking.

I dont believe in beating.

https://giphy.com/gifs/gip9I9OAAmN40Tord1/html5
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UnfairRepresent
10/01/20 11:36:12 PM
#69:


There is no difference between beating and spanking

If you have to beat children you have failed as a parent and a human being
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RetsuZaiZen
10/01/20 11:36:13 PM
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Yea this topic is getting to be as annoying as circumcision and tipping.

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RedJackson
10/01/20 11:43:17 PM
#71:


Bad_Mojo posted...
There is nothing fucking cultural about hitting your kid.

This is true but

considering I was always standing there still hopping with energy waiting for the rest of the story while my friends kind of stood there without saying much after - I wouldn't say culture has nothing to do with why it happens or how it happens

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ChrisTaka
10/01/20 11:43:47 PM
#72:


Bad_Mojo posted...
No. Fuck that noise

I'm not saying spanking is ok but saying it's not a cultural thing is a little iffy.

My dad once told me that back in his village in Africa people would even let their neighbors spank their kids.

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Evening_Dragon
10/02/20 12:07:49 AM
#73:


Bad_Mojo posted...
There is nothing fucking cultural about hitting your kid.

lmao yes there fucking is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSicdnahJ7o

most Hispanic millenials fucking know

edit: puerto ricans call it la chancleta tho

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El Mexicano Texano
10/02/20 12:14:52 AM
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I'm sure that 95% of latinos/Hispanic kids got a ass whooping. It's a culture thing and stereotype many of us got taken to the dressing/restroom room in stores just to get hit. This is a fact. Hand, belt, hanger and specially the chancla being the most common.

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ChrisTaka
10/02/20 12:21:37 AM
#75:




Evening_Dragon posted...
lmao yes there fucking is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSicdnahJ7o

most Hispanic millenials fucking know

edit: puerto ricans call it la chancleta tho

Why'd they gotta make her flip-flop ricochet off the kids faces like that tho XD

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Evening_Dragon
10/02/20 12:26:43 AM
#76:


El Mexicano Texano posted...
I'm sure that 95% of latinos/Hispanic kids got a ass whooping. It's a culture thing and stereotype many of us got taken to the dressing/restroom room in stores just to get hit. This is a fact. Hand, belt, hanger and specially the chancla being the most common.

Yup. And this isn't to say that it's right, but at this point I'm just frustrated with how barren the attempts at making sense have been.

Just because you're for a good cause doesn't mean you can shout stupid shit, @averagejoel

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ImmatureContent
10/02/20 12:33:42 AM
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I'm white and I was spanked as a child. It's not a cultural thing. It is a traditional thing. People are unwilling to stop an archaic practice that is heavily evidenced to be ineffective simply because they are stubborn. And I have yet to see anyone explain the difference between spanking and beating despite it apparently being so obvious to some of you.

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Zodd3224
10/02/20 12:34:39 AM
#78:


Cleo_II posted...
Absolutely not, no form of corporal punishment is ok


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Evening_Dragon
10/02/20 12:37:01 AM
#79:


ImmatureContent posted...
I'm white and I was spanked as a child. It's not a cultural thing. It is a traditional thing. People are unwilling to stop an archaic practice that is heavily evidenced to be ineffective simply because they are stubborn. And I have yet to see anyone explain the difference between spanking and beating despite it apparently being so obvious to some of you.

Traditions are inherent in cultures. Don't confuse a subset with exclusive sets.

Also, the difference was posted quite a few times.

I can try with you, though. How do you define 'beating'? Do you think your definition is a common approximation of what people think when they of beating?

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Evening_Dragon
10/02/20 12:41:07 AM
#81:


VioletMassacre posted...
My problem is that spanking, in an adult's eyes, are seen as something sexual no matter if you like it yourself or not. Why would someone even think to do that to a child?

There are a lot of things that are only sexual in the right context. Spanking is not always sexual, neither is choking, or being punched in the ribs (shout outs to that one guy here who's higher up is also a twitter thot), or forcefeeding, or diapers, or...

Honestly, there are very few tangible things that cannot be sexualized, but they are not inherently and always so.

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RedJackson
10/02/20 12:52:07 AM
#82:


ImmatureContent posted...
I'm white and I was spanked as a child. It's not a cultural thing. It is a traditional thing. People are unwilling to stop an archaic practice that is heavily evidenced to be ineffective simply because they are stubborn. And I have yet to see anyone explain the difference between spanking and beating despite it apparently being so obvious to some of you.

Bro did you even watch the video and the way that lollipop exploded in that kids hands

thats just the feet weapon too, they used to be warriors you know - or at least hungry and practiced throwing corn cobs at eachother

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Endgame
10/02/20 12:57:52 AM
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I can think of plenty of scenarios where a child deserves a beating. And no I don't mean limp-wristed spanking. I mean a beating.

Animal abuse being the most common one.

Bullying/beating other children is another.
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Zodd3224
10/02/20 1:03:28 AM
#85:


Endgame posted...
I can think of plenty of scenarios where a child deserves a beating. And no I don't mean limp-wristed spanking. I mean a beating.

Animal abuse being the most common one.

Bullying/beating other children is another.

Fight fire with fire. What stupid ass logic.

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ImmatureContent
10/02/20 1:08:15 AM
#86:


Evening_Dragon posted...
Traditions are inherent in cultures. Don't confuse a subset with exclusive sets.

Also, the difference was posted quite a few times.

I can try with you, though. How do you define 'beating'? Do you think your definition is a common approximation of what people think when they of beating?
Let's just go with a basic dictionary definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beat
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spank

Based on those definitions, the nuance is when spanking you are using an open hand. Is that what was so difficult for you guys to say? Or do you think there is something else that differentiates the two?

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Evening_Dragon
10/02/20 1:17:35 AM
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Yes, the difference is that when most people think of "beating", they think of someone being punched repeatedly, with the intent for serious harm and physical compromise. When someone is beaten, you expect to find them bloody and having difficulty moving. I don't know if English is your primary language, but we have the term "beaten up" to describe just this: The result of a beating.

Spanking is intended to cause pain, not to physically compromise a person. I believe you are quite aware of this.

Aeriss' article was pretty immediately enlightening; I'm quite against spanking on those points alone. My only issue in this topic now is that you guys are supremely disingenuous.

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AzNDarkSamurai
10/02/20 1:19:52 AM
#88:


Not beating them but I definitely believe in spanking

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Solid Snake07
10/02/20 1:22:56 AM
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I'm not necessarily against spanking. That said I've never spanked my daughter

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FrankJaegr
10/02/20 1:54:04 AM
#90:


Solid Snake07 posted...
I'm not necessarily against spanking. That said I've never spanked my daughter

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ChrisTaka
10/02/20 2:23:02 AM
#91:


ImmatureContent posted...
I'm white and I was spanked as a child. It's not a cultural thing. It is a traditional thing. People are unwilling to stop an archaic practice that is heavily evidenced to be ineffective simply because they are stubborn. And I have yet to see anyone explain the difference between spanking and beating despite it apparently being so obvious to some of you.

It is very much a cultural thing, it just isn't exclusive to the culture. People do it with food all the time. Just because Fu is a food well known to belong to the Asian culture doesn't mean I'm not gonna make it. Just like how just because spanking is more common in minority cultures that didn't stop it from happening to you.

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Sonic Cannon
10/02/20 2:42:05 AM
#92:


Physically assaulting them? No.
Defeating them? Yes

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Solid Snake07
10/02/20 2:42:36 AM
#93:


Louis ck did a pretty good bit on spanking children that I can relate to. I was spanked as a child but don't spank my child. That's not because I'm a better parent, it's because I'm more economically prepared and have the time and energy to discipline a child without spanking them.

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Bad_Mojo
10/02/20 2:55:33 AM
#94:


ChrisTaka posted...


I'm not saying spanking is ok but saying it's not a cultural thing is a little iffy.

And if it's apart of your culture, go fuck yourself. Fuck you and your culture

Evening_Dragon posted...
lmao yes there fucking is

You're laughing? Wow, I know what I'm going to tag you as now. All respect lost

I really wish I could tell you all my honest opinion. The mods would just mod me for speaking up against child abuse and telling the people that support it how much I wish they would. . .well, I can't say.

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ChrisTaka
10/02/20 3:46:49 AM
#95:


Bad_Mojo posted...
And if it's apart of your culture, go fuck yourself. Fuck you and your culture

Damn bro just cuz it's a part of my culture doesn't mean I don't it lol

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Evening_Dragon
10/02/20 4:02:35 AM
#96:


Bad_Mojo posted...
And if it's apart of your culture, go fuck yourself. Fuck you and your culture

You're laughing? Wow, I know what I'm going to tag you as now. All respect lost

I really wish I could tell you all my honest opinion. The mods would just mod me for speaking up against child abuse and telling the people that support it how much I wish they would. . .well, I can't say.

I was laughing at your stupid lie of a post, but I forget that you just pretend like you were trolling when you get called out.

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10/02/20 4:03:23 AM
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STEROLIZER
10/02/20 4:13:40 AM
#98:


First poll where I've not seen @Trickfinger add "yes/no daddy" to the end of it...

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Trickfinger
10/02/20 4:28:14 AM
#99:


STEROLIZER posted...
First poll where I've not seen @Trickfinger add "yes/no daddy" to the end of it...
because unlike my obvious joke topics, this is serious?


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scar the 1
10/02/20 4:28:42 AM
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I'm always amazed at people bending over backwards to point out some distinction between abuse/beating and spanking. Both practices, no matter what the dictionary definition is, have the same purpose:
To cause physical pain and humiliation to the child. One happens to be a wider category of things than the other, but that really doesn't change the core fact that spanking a child is done with the express purpose to physically hurt and humiliate them.

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Trickfinger
10/02/20 4:29:10 AM
#101:


isnt it funny how parents only beat their kids when theyre small? wonder why they never try it once the kid hits post puberty.


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