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RedJackson 10/02/20 4:45:41 PM #152:	Trickfinger posted... yup Imagine the image for everything else that's not that <cite>RedJackson posted [p:945371040] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>Trickfinger posted... </cite> <quote>yup</quote> Imagine the image for everything else that's not that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighOnSolar 10/02/20 4:48:52 PM #153:	People spank their kids because they dont do what theyre told, because they mouth off, dont listen, who knows how many other reasons. Theres no group of parents out there that only spank their kids to keep them from jumping in front of a bus. --- Surf <cite>HighOnSolar posted [p:945371171] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>People spank their kids because they dont do what theyre told, because they mouth off, dont listen, who knows how many other reasons. Theres no group of parents out there that only spank their kids to keep them from jumping in front of a bus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HarryCaNab 10/02/20 4:52:41 PM #154:	Zodd3224 posted... Believing that hitting your kids is beneficial to them in the long run in 2020 is the same as still believing the Earth is flat or that humans aren't having an impact on climate change. The vast majority of medical experts have come to the same conclusion that hitting kids is not good for their development but you pick and choose anecdotal evidence to continue with your ignorant, outdated belief that you're actually parenting them thr right way. But it's not hitting, it's spanking! <cite>HarryCaNab posted [p:945371339] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Believing that hitting your kids is beneficial to them in the long run in 2020 is the same as still believing the Earth is flat or that humans aren't having an impact on climate change. The vast majority of medical experts have come to the same conclusion that hitting kids is not good for their development but you pick and choose anecdotal evidence to continue with your ignorant, outdated belief that you're actually parenting them thr right way. </quote> But it's not hitting, it's spanking! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 10/02/20 4:53:46 PM #155:	HighOnSolar posted... People spank their kids because they dont do what theyre told, because they mouth off, dont listen, who knows how many other reasons. Theres no group of parents out there that only spank their kids to keep them from jumping in front of a bus. Dunno if you're arguing against me,but this helps me. Because I'm not denying abusers exist. Im arguing that all spankings aren't abuse. Im just arguing against those saying you should literally never spank a child. --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:945371388] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>HighOnSolar posted... </cite> <quote>People spank their kids because they dont do what theyre told, because they mouth off, dont listen, who knows how many other reasons. Theres no group of parents out there that only spank their kids to keep them from jumping in front of a bus.</quote> Dunno if you're arguing against me,but this helps me. Because I'm not denying abusers exist. Im arguing that all spankings aren't abuse. Im just arguing against those saying you should literally never spank a child. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 10/02/20 4:57:28 PM #156:	<cite>RedJackson posted [p:945371551] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 10/02/20 4:57:52 PM #157:	Lost_All_Senses posted... I'm good. If I ever knock up someone, I'll give them a really hard look. I can promise you that much. Also, for the record. I have a dog that I don't hit. Because nothing he does is malicious and I don't allow him in harms way in the first place. In a perfect world, they are not bad enough to ever need to be swatted. But most people who don't have kids have this fantasy in their head that they will have the golden plan and their kid won't ever have any bad or dangerous habits. Shits unrealistic. It's just a very final option. Like I said, when you feel like the alternative would be them learning their lesson through getting hit by a car or getting 2nd degree burns. Do you guys think your kid just isn't gonna hurt themselves? Or would you rather them get hurt worse, just so you don't have to be the one to "betray" them. Zodd3224 posted... Believing that hitting your kids is beneficial to them in the long run in 2020 is the same as still believing the Earth is flat or that humans aren't having an impact on climate change. The vast majority of medical experts have come to the same conclusion that hitting kids is not good for their development but you pick and choose anecdotal evidence to continue with your ignorant, outdated belief that you're actually parenting them thr right way. I have two kids, an 8 year old and a 4 year old and hitting them has never even been a consideration for me or my wife because its not an effective way to discipline your children. Do some research. --- I can see from your smile...You're not here for the sunset <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:945371568] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>I'm good. If I ever knock up someone, I'll give them a really hard look. I can promise you that much. Also, for the record. I have a dog that I don't hit. Because nothing he does is malicious and I don't allow him in harms way in the first place. In a perfect world, they are not bad enough to ever need to be swatted. But most people who don't have kids have this fantasy in their head that they will have the golden plan and their kid won't ever have any bad or dangerous habits. Shits unrealistic. It's just a very final option. Like I said, when you feel like the alternative would be them learning their lesson through getting hit by a car or getting 2nd degree burns. Do you guys think your kid just isn't gonna hurt themselves? Or would you rather them get hurt worse, just so you don't have to be the one to "betray" them.</quote> Zodd3224 posted... </cite> <quote>Believing that hitting your kids is beneficial to them in the long run in 2020 is the same as still believing the Earth is flat or that humans aren't having an impact on climate change. The vast majority of medical experts have come to the same conclusion that hitting kids is not good for their development but you pick and choose anecdotal evidence to continue with your ignorant, outdated belief that you're actually parenting them thr right way.</quote> I have two kids, an 8 year old and a 4 year old and hitting them has never even been a consideration for me or my wife because its not an effective way to discipline your children. Do some research. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighOnSolar 10/02/20 5:00:25 PM #158:	Are you going to spank the child after they touch the hot stove or before? Why didnt you just pull them away? Im not arguing against you because Im coming into the middle of a topic but I am saying youre not really providing any instances where hitting your kids is beneficial except for your own convenience. --- Surf <cite>HighOnSolar posted [p:945371651] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>Are you going to spank the child after they touch the hot stove or before? Why didnt you just pull them away? Im not arguing against you because Im coming into the middle of a topic but I am saying youre not really providing any instances where hitting your kids is beneficial except for your own convenience. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 10/02/20 5:07:21 PM #159:	"I have to hit my kid to teach them to not run into the street" is one of the wildest things I've ever heard. Lost_All_Senses posted... A little better response. Yeah yeah yeah, study says this, study says that. Experts say "Pump your kids with medication and fill our pockets instead". Studies say "This specific group we use to support our preconceived views gave us these results that we were looking to get" Man, Im not living my life by manufactured statistics and experts who have their hands in pockets or their views made up and will only use the results that support those views Putting feels before reals, I see. This is just anti-vaxxer logic. --- Updated Prediction for the 2020 election: https://www.270towin.com/maps/xGWGg <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:945371934] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>"I have to hit my kid to teach them to not run into the street" is one of the wildest things I've ever heard. Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote> A little better response. Yeah yeah yeah, study says this, study says that. Experts say "Pump your kids with medication and fill our pockets instead". Studies say "This specific group we use to support our preconceived views gave us these results that we were looking to get" Man, Im not living my life by manufactured statistics and experts who have their hands in pockets or their views made up and will only use the results that support those views</quote>Putting feels before reals, I see. This is just anti-vaxxer logic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 10/02/20 5:19:47 PM #160:	Im cleaning my house now and don't wanna be distracted. You guys just rest easy knowing I don't plan on having any kids. And I don't tell others how to raise theirs. --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:945372402] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>Im cleaning my house now and don't wanna be distracted. You guys just rest easy knowing I don't plan on having any kids. And I don't tell others how to raise theirs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 10/02/20 5:24:41 PM #161:	Im pretty comfortable telling people that hitting children is wrong. --- Updated Prediction for the 2020 election: https://www.270towin.com/maps/xGWGg <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:945372613] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>Im pretty comfortable telling people that hitting children is wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 10/02/20 5:35:22 PM #162:	FlameTurtle posted... Im pretty comfortable telling people that hitting children is wrong. --- I can see from your smile...You're not here for the sunset <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:945373013] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>FlameTurtle posted... </cite> <quote>Im pretty comfortable telling people that hitting children is wrong.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 10/02/20 7:48:27 PM #163:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Dunno if you're arguing against me,but this helps me. Because I'm not denying abusers exist. Im arguing that all spankings aren't abuse. Im just arguing against those saying you should literally never spank a child. "should" is, for the most part, not even a part of the conversation. at least not the way I approach it. "spanking" and "physical abuse" have been linked to the same outcomes pertaining to mental health (and other metrics -- I'll link at the end of my post), suggesting that they are not distinct behaviours. part of the problem is that people have preconceived notions about what constitutes "abuse", and those notions pretty explicitly exclude "spanking" from the definition. I don't approach it from an angle of what people "should" or "shouldn't" do, but to describe the way things are: objectively speaking, spanking is abusive. parents who spank their kids are being physically abusive. (notice that I didn't moralize it here -- I didn't say anything was "good" or "bad." "abusive" is a clear, objective description of many things that some parents do. spanking is one of those things.) https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/ --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:945378575] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>Dunno if you're arguing against me,but this helps me. Because I'm not denying abusers exist. Im arguing that all spankings aren't abuse. Im just arguing against those saying you should literally never spank a child.</quote>"should" is, for the most part, not even a part of the conversation. at least not the way I approach it. "spanking" and "physical abuse" have been linked to the same outcomes pertaining to mental health (and other metrics -- I'll link at the end of my post), suggesting that they are not distinct behaviours. part of the problem is that people have preconceived notions about what constitutes "abuse", and those notions pretty explicitly exclude "spanking" from the definition. I don't approach it from an angle of what people "should" or "shouldn't" do, but to describe the way things are: objectively speaking, spanking is abusive. parents who spank their kids are being physically abusive. (notice that I didn't moralize it here -- I didn't say anything was "good" or "bad." "abusive" is a clear, objective description of many things that some parents do. spanking is one of those things.) https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 10/02/20 9:11:12 PM #165:	FlameTurtle posted... Im pretty comfortable telling people that hitting children is wrong. --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:945381690] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>FlameTurtle posted...</cite> <quote>Im pretty comfortable telling people that hitting children is wrong.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 10/03/20 3:52:39 AM #166:	Trickfinger posted... because unlike my obvious joke topics, this is serious? No, Daddy Leading! --- ---./\|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_........................Love is like a bottle of gin ---( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-,..............But a bottle of gin is not like love. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:945392241] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>Trickfinger posted... </cite> <quote>because unlike my obvious joke topics, this is serious?</quote> No, Daddy Leading! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 10/03/20 3:59:10 AM #167:	RedJackson posted... The difference being I would've preferred a spanking I've thought the same thing at times. Instead, I got the speeches about guilt and I have to tell you, that wasn't real good for my self esteem. I also remember the few vicious beatings I got. 2-3 swats on the ass half-heartedly from my mom. Boy, after that, I couldn't sit down for like 10 seconds. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:945392320] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>The difference being I would've preferred a spanking</quote>I've thought the same thing at times. Instead, I got the speeches about guilt and I have to tell you, that wasn't real good for my self esteem. I also remember the few vicious beatings I got. 2-3 swats on the ass half-heartedly from my mom. Boy, after that, I couldn't sit down for like 10 seconds. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 10/03/20 4:07:39 AM #168:	HighOnSolar posted... Why didnt you just pull them away? Can't do that either. That's a beating, according to people in this topic. You are laying your hands on a child and causing them physical discomfort. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:945392420] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>HighOnSolar posted... </cite> <quote>Why didnt you just pull them away?</quote>Can't do that either. That's a beating, according to people in this topic. You are laying your hands on a child and causing them physical discomfort. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Venger2112 10/03/20 4:11:10 AM #169:	no man what the hell is wrong with the yes voters --- I'm like a Sleeping Lion, I like to show off every 100 days So then you'll be useless the next 99.. <cite>Venger2112 posted [p:945392461] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>no man what the hell is wrong with the yes voters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 10/03/20 4:11:43 AM #170:	Venger2112 posted... no man what the hell is wrong with the yes voters It's ce --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:945392466] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>Venger2112 posted...</cite> <quote>no man what the hell is wrong with the yes voters</quote> It's ce</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 10/03/20 11:19:17 AM #171:	loafy013 posted... I've thought the same thing at times. Instead, I got the speeches about guilt and I have to tell you, that wasn't real good for my self esteem. I also remember the few vicious beatings I got. 2-3 swats on the ass half-heartedly from my mom. Boy, after that, I couldn't sit down for like 10 seconds. spanking is abuse, but that doesn't mean it's the only form of abuse. whether or not someone "would've preferred" one over the other is irrelevant -- they're both still abusive --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:945400178] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>loafy013 posted... </cite> <quote>I've thought the same thing at times. Instead, I got the speeches about guilt and I have to tell you, that wasn't real good for my self esteem. I also remember the few vicious beatings I got. 2-3 swats on the ass half-heartedly from my mom. Boy, after that, I couldn't sit down for like 10 seconds.</quote>spanking is abuse, but that doesn't mean it's the only form of abuse. whether or not someone "would've preferred" one over the other is irrelevant -- they're both still abusive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 10/03/20 4:14:03 PM #172:	loafy013 posted... I've thought the same thing at times. Instead, I got the speeches about guilt and I have to tell you, that wasn't real good for my self esteem. I also remember the few vicious beatings I got. 2-3 swats on the ass half-heartedly from my mom. Boy, after that, I couldn't sit down for like 10 seconds. Sorry m8, I really am - I really do understand. I wish I could appear as an adult to my young self and hug him hard, but that kid is gone now.. long gone This is as much as I'll get into it because I cannot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6zaCV4niKk <cite>RedJackson posted [p:945412300] in do you bel... [t:79013271]...</cite> <quote>loafy013 posted... </cite> <quote>I've thought the same thing at times. Instead, I got the speeches about guilt and I have to tell you, that wasn't real good for my self esteem. I also remember the few vicious beatings I got. 2-3 swats on the ass half-heartedly from my mom. Boy, after that, I couldn't sit down for like 10 seconds.</quote> Sorry m8, I really am - I really do understand. I wish I could appear as an adult to my young self and hug him hard, but that kid is gone now.. long gone This is as much as I'll get into it because I cannot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6zaCV4niKk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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