Board 8 > Microsoft has bought Zenimax/Bethesda

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ninkendo
09/21/20 9:10:44 AM
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The Mana Sword
09/21/20 9:14:08 AM
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CaptainOfCrush
09/21/20 9:16:51 AM
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That's like... easily the biggest gaming news of the year

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Kinglicious
09/21/20 9:18:45 AM
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Yeah there's few studio purchases that could be bigger. That's a heavy blow to Sony but a great situation for pc gamers.

If they're gonna be anything like the other Microsoft games, expect all of them on game pass.

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ninkendo
09/21/20 9:22:56 AM
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Dancedreamer
09/21/20 9:24:33 AM
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So I guess this means no Fallout/Elder Scrolls for me.

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Corrik7
09/21/20 9:27:37 AM
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Holy shit. Now if they can purchase Konami they would have major bastions across Europe, USA, and Japan.


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CaptainOfCrush
09/21/20 9:28:09 AM
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Dancedreamer posted...
So I guess this means no Fallout/Elder Scrolls for me.
They'll still be released everywhere imo. If Microsoft ever had an aggressive mentality to kill off its competitors and become the only console maker... I think that mentality has long since faded. It's much easier and more profitable to lend out your IPs everywhere.

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Corrik7
09/21/20 9:28:12 AM
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Kinglicious posted...
Yeah there's few studio purchases that could be bigger. That's a heavy blow to Sony but a great situation for pc gamers.

If they're gonna be anything like the other Microsoft games, expect all of them on game pass.
Alrdy said day 1 Gamepass.

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JackMan
09/21/20 9:28:33 AM
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I could see them still releasing the bigger titles multiplat (they still put Minecraft on other consoles, after all), but it does mean day one Gamepass, so woo! Especially with games becoming more expensive next gen.

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Kinglicious
09/21/20 9:31:56 AM
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Corrik7 posted...
Alrdy said day 1 Gamepass.

I'm gonna have a hard time getting off game pass with shit like this.


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JackMan
09/21/20 9:32:27 AM
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ninkendo posted...
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1308029942018510848
They also own inXile too, so Fallout 1 & 2 remakes, maybe?

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Ashethan
09/21/20 9:36:13 AM
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Corrik7 posted...
Holy shit. Now if they can purchase Konami they would have major bastions across Europe, USA, and Japan.

Why would they buy a Pachinko Company that sometimes leases its licenses to other companies to make DLC?

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Corrik7
09/21/20 9:38:00 AM
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Ashethan posted...
Why would they buy a Pachinko Company that sometimes leases its licenses to other companies to make DLC?
Because it has some of the best unused IPs in the entire industry? Castlevania, Suikoden, Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, etc

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azuarc
09/21/20 9:45:52 AM
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I wonder how much Fallout 76 had to do with this. I can't imagine Bethesda selling like that while things are trending upward, even for that absurd amount of money.

How has Microsoft been as a parent company? I know there was some grumbling over their handling of Bungie initially, but I don't remember hearing much of anything else about them, positive or negative.

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voltch
09/21/20 9:46:23 AM
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That's...a big deal.

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azuarc
09/21/20 9:48:17 AM
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voltch posted...
That's...a big deal.

A $7.5B deal, in fact.

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Corrik7
09/21/20 9:51:30 AM
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azuarc posted...
I wonder how much Fallout 76 had to do with this. I can't imagine Bethesda selling like that while things are trending upward, even for that absurd amount of money.

How has Microsoft been as a parent company? I know there was some grumbling over their handling of Bungie initially, but I don't remember hearing much of anything else about them, positive or negative.
Bethesda is a part of the parent company they bought, Zenimax. This includes other studios besides just Bethesda.

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voltch
09/21/20 9:55:36 AM
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Oh right so Doom is exclusive now.

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ninkendo
09/21/20 9:56:52 AM
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if this was 10 years ago you'd probably be right, but with Microsoft going more service focused there's a good chance Bethesda games go the same route as Minecraft and still releases on everything. They have Game Pass Day 1 releases to maintain their advantage while still making money for those who want to buy it on other platforms.

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HashtagSEP
09/21/20 9:59:23 AM
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Yeah, if this was Sony Id be worried, but Microsoft seems less interested in console wars these days.

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Corrik7
09/21/20 10:01:59 AM
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ninkendo posted...
if this was 10 years ago you'd probably be right, but with Microsoft going more service focused there's a good chance Bethesda games go the same route as Minecraft and still releases on everything. They have Game Pass Day 1 releases to maintain their advantage while still making money for those who want to buy it on other platforms.
Sounds super wishful thinking. Microsoft's plan is to get Gamepass on Nintendo and Sony consoles. Minecraft is a money printer. If these consoles want these games they are gonna have to be the ones that relent with letting Gamepass on them


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09/21/20 10:05:36 AM
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Kinglicious
09/21/20 10:06:07 AM
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I'd imagine Microsoft makes more licencing individual games than game pass in full.

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voltch
09/21/20 10:11:08 AM
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So uh....

Obsidian now gonna do West Coast Fallout games with a budget and Bethesda gets to do the East Coast stuff?

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JackMan
09/21/20 10:12:50 AM
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https://twitter.com/Obsidian/status/1308044609604341763

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redrocket
09/21/20 10:13:27 AM
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A $7.5B deal, in fact.

To put this in perspective, thats more than Disney paid for Star Wars.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/21/20 10:21:27 AM
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Which makes sense, because Doom + TES + Fallout + etc. etc. etc. probably IS worth more than SW, and that's not even counting everything else Zenimax owns.

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Corrik7
09/21/20 10:31:04 AM
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Good lord almighty.

Just sucks that some IPs I love are likely to not be on Playstation consoles anymore.
Can I interest you in an Xbox? A Gamepass sub and a PC? A Gamepass sub and a phone/tablet?

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Mac Arrowny
09/21/20 10:33:55 AM
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Yes, Star Wars, a franchise that has made over $70B, is worth less than Doom/TES/Fallout.
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Lightning Strikes
09/21/20 10:38:49 AM
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Wowwww

Regarding Star Wars comparisons, bear in mind that in 2012 Star Wars was nearly totally inactive so that probably helped. Today it would go for far more than 4 billion.

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CaptainOfCrush
09/21/20 11:03:13 AM
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For further perspective, this is almost as much as Disney paid for Star Wars and Marvel combined.

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Mac Arrowny
09/21/20 11:04:50 AM
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Which makes sense, because Doom + TES + Fallout + Rage etc. etc. etc. probably IS worth more than SW and Marvel combined, and that's not even counting everything else Zenimax owns.
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PerfectChaosZ
09/21/20 11:11:08 AM
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One day theres just going to be two mega corps that own everything. Fun.
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CaptainOfCrush
09/21/20 11:12:07 AM
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PerfectChaosZ posted...
One day theres just going to be two mega corps that own everything. Fun.
Two mega corps and Nintendo.

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Djungelurban
09/21/20 11:18:41 AM
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Oh. My. God.
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Corrik7
09/21/20 11:21:08 AM
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Two mega corps and Nintendo.
TenCent, Microsoft, and Apple.

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KamikazePotato
09/21/20 11:25:44 AM
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This is big news for corporations but not really big news for gamers? Unless all you own is a PS4 I guess.

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ninkendo
09/21/20 11:30:35 AM
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PrivateBiscuit1
09/21/20 11:31:18 AM
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Fallout 76 continues to ruin everything somehow.

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LiquidOshawott
09/21/20 11:41:47 AM
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Looks like Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo will continue to be PS5 timed exclusives

Funny how that works

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voltch
09/21/20 11:47:56 AM
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Wasn't there word of Sony also looking to acquire studios?

Like they tried to get Warframe's devs, but Tencent beat them out. I think they bought Insomniac?

Just feels like this is something we might expect to see more of this coming gen if they're already doing all this.

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Lightning Strikes
09/21/20 11:51:33 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
This is big news for corporations but not really big news for gamers? Unless all you own is a PS4 I guess.

Well, first, that is a lot of people.

Second, all of Bethesdas new games can be expected to be on Game Pass which is pretty big, if things continue as they are.

Third itll probably change their output a lot we just dont know how yet.

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Waluigi1
09/21/20 11:55:37 AM
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Whoa didn't see this coming.

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Corrik7
09/21/20 12:02:12 PM
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voltch posted...
Wasn't there word of Sony also looking to acquire studios?

Like they tried to get Warframe's devs, but Tencent beat them out. I think they bought Insomniac?

Just feels like this is something we might expect to see more of this coming gen if they're already doing all this.
They just bought insomniac but that's a drop in the pond to this. Microsoft and Sony were both looking at WB and Zenimax.

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BlackMageJawa
09/21/20 12:08:30 PM
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You want to play Elder Scrolls VI on PC? Just download the Bethesda client from the Windows Store and... why are you running away shrieking in fear?
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